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Larry Swain
 
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Katra wrote:
> In article >,
> "Bob (this one)" > wrote:
>
>
>>Larry Swain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Bob (this one) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>C M wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>This will sound lazy and even silly, but my friend said she has great
>>>>>success with cooking her turkey like this: Take it from the freezer,
>>>>>pull off wrapper, put in oven 350 degrees, and cook it an hour or so
>>>>>more than if it was thawed. I told two people I know at the senior
>>>>>center I planned on doing it, and they said I would get salmonella, the
>>>>>paper packed giblets would be awful and said I should definitely not do
>>>>>it!!! What do you think, please. CM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>They're wrong. It's a good way to cook a bird. Take giblets out when
>>>>they're thawed. Salmonella will be dead by the time the meat reaches
>>>>140°F. Use a thermometer and pull it when the thigh registers 160°F
>>>>and let it rest for about 20 minutes before carving.
>>>>
>>>>Pastorio
>>>>
>>>
>>>100% agree; but I have to say that I find trying to stuff a frozen bird
>>>not the best experience of my life. So I've thawed it for an hour or so
>>>in the oven then stuffed it, and that worked ok.

>>
>>Difference of opinion here... I never stuff birds. By the time the
>>stuffing gets to a safe temperature (165°F) the outside is overcooked.
>>Matter of taste.
>>
>>Pastorio
>>

>
>
> Ditto here...
> I cook my "stuffing" on the stove top and serve it separately.
>
> If you brown any meat you put into it first, (I use a mix of pork
> sausage and ground turkey) it will sort of give it that "roasted" flavor
> that you want.
>
> I just HATE overcooked birds!!!
>


I've never had a problem...my biggest problem with a turkey is getting
the legs cooked to the right temp without letting the breast dry out,
but I rotate frequently and baste, that seems to get everything to the
temp needed, including stuffing, and usually only the very front of the
breast gets dry, but not too badly.

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Larry Swain wrote:
>
>
> Katra wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> "Bob (this one)" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Larry Swain wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bob (this one) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> C M wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> This will sound lazy and even silly, but my friend said she has great
>>>>>> success with cooking her turkey like this: Take it from the freezer,
>>>>>> pull off wrapper, put in oven 350 degrees, and cook it an hour or so
>>>>>> more than if it was thawed. I told two people I know at the senior
>>>>>> center I planned on doing it, and they said I would get
>>>>>> salmonella, the
>>>>>> paper packed giblets would be awful and said I should definitely
>>>>>> not do
>>>>>> it!!! What do you think, please. CM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They're wrong. It's a good way to cook a bird. Take giblets out
>>>>> when they're thawed. Salmonella will be dead by the time the meat
>>>>> reaches 140°F. Use a thermometer and pull it when the thigh
>>>>> registers 160°F and let it rest for about 20 minutes before carving.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pastorio
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 100% agree; but I have to say that I find trying to stuff a frozen
>>>> bird not the best experience of my life. So I've thawed it for an
>>>> hour or so in the oven then stuffed it, and that worked ok.
>>>
>>>
>>> Difference of opinion here... I never stuff birds. By the time the
>>> stuffing gets to a safe temperature (165°F) the outside is
>>> overcooked. Matter of taste.
>>>
>>> Pastorio
>>>

>>
>>
>> Ditto here...
>> I cook my "stuffing" on the stove top and serve it separately.
>>
>> If you brown any meat you put into it first, (I use a mix of pork
>> sausage and ground turkey) it will sort of give it that "roasted"
>> flavor that you want.
>>
>> I just HATE overcooked birds!!!
>>

>
> I've never had a problem...my biggest problem with a turkey is getting
> the legs cooked to the right temp without letting the breast dry out,
> but I rotate frequently and baste, that seems to get everything to the
> temp needed, including stuffing, and usually only the very front of the
> breast gets dry, but not too badly.
>



If you roast the turkey in a covered roaster, the breast will not be dry
even if you overcook it. I accidently roasted mine to 185 degrees this
year because it cooked faster than I expected. I was afraid it would be
dry and tasteless, but it was still juicy and delicious.

Bob
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Larry Swain wrote:
>
>
> Katra wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> "Bob (this one)" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Larry Swain wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bob (this one) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> C M wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> This will sound lazy and even silly, but my friend said she has great
>>>>>> success with cooking her turkey like this: Take it from the freezer,
>>>>>> pull off wrapper, put in oven 350 degrees, and cook it an hour or so
>>>>>> more than if it was thawed. I told two people I know at the senior
>>>>>> center I planned on doing it, and they said I would get
>>>>>> salmonella, the
>>>>>> paper packed giblets would be awful and said I should definitely
>>>>>> not do
>>>>>> it!!! What do you think, please. CM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They're wrong. It's a good way to cook a bird. Take giblets out
>>>>> when they're thawed. Salmonella will be dead by the time the meat
>>>>> reaches 140°F. Use a thermometer and pull it when the thigh
>>>>> registers 160°F and let it rest for about 20 minutes before carving.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pastorio
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 100% agree; but I have to say that I find trying to stuff a frozen
>>>> bird not the best experience of my life. So I've thawed it for an
>>>> hour or so in the oven then stuffed it, and that worked ok.
>>>
>>>
>>> Difference of opinion here... I never stuff birds. By the time the
>>> stuffing gets to a safe temperature (165°F) the outside is
>>> overcooked. Matter of taste.
>>>
>>> Pastorio
>>>

>>
>>
>> Ditto here...
>> I cook my "stuffing" on the stove top and serve it separately.
>>
>> If you brown any meat you put into it first, (I use a mix of pork
>> sausage and ground turkey) it will sort of give it that "roasted"
>> flavor that you want.
>>
>> I just HATE overcooked birds!!!
>>

>
> I've never had a problem...my biggest problem with a turkey is getting
> the legs cooked to the right temp without letting the breast dry out,
> but I rotate frequently and baste, that seems to get everything to the
> temp needed, including stuffing, and usually only the very front of the
> breast gets dry, but not too badly.
>



If you roast the turkey in a covered roaster, the breast will not be dry
even if you overcook it. I accidently roasted mine to 185 degrees this
year because it cooked faster than I expected. I was afraid it would be
dry and tasteless, but it was still juicy and delicious.

Bob
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