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![]() "zxcvbob" > wrote in message ... > Barbtail wrote: > >> >> side note- >> And what's with all the automatic *rain* in the produce aisle now-a-days? >> I >> guess it's good or they wouldn't go the expense *laughs*. I feel silly >> shaking the water out of my romaine lettuce in the store but I am not >> gonna pay >> 2 bucks a pound for water. >> > > It sounds like you've already figured out the answer. Spraying with water > keeps the weight up, and most produce is sold by the pound. > > Bob I got to thinking one day, while in the produce department, that even though one of those little plastic bags off the roll doesn't add much weight to my purchase, a roll of the stuff is pretty heavy. In the long run, the supermarket gets to sell it all at produce per-pound prices. A profit center? --Rich |
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any of various polymeric organic silicon compounds obtained as oils,
greases, > or plastics and used especially for water-resistant and heat-resistant > lubricants, varnishes, binders, and electric insulators > --- > > sil·i·ca > > noun > > : silicon dioxide SiO2 occurring in crystalline, amorphous, and impure forms > (as in quartz, opal, and sand respectively) Huh? -- Elaine (with really low IQ) |
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any of various polymeric organic silicon compounds obtained as oils,
greases, > or plastics and used especially for water-resistant and heat-resistant > lubricants, varnishes, binders, and electric insulators > --- > > sil·i·ca > > noun > > : silicon dioxide SiO2 occurring in crystalline, amorphous, and impure forms > (as in quartz, opal, and sand respectively) Huh? -- Elaine (with really low IQ) |
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> (Dan Abel)
> >Several people pointed out my mistake. I saw "silicone" and thought >"silicon", but they are two different things. Sorry! No, no, no... it's *Silica* that's used to make glass... Silicon is a valley in Calyfornia. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >, "jmcquown" > > wrote: > >> As with most things, there is a panic about reheating food in plastic >> containers in the microwave. I've done it for 20+ years with no ill >> affects. > > You sure about that? "-) Pretty darned sure. Of course I haven't reproduced so I can't say what my spawn from hell might have turned out like ;p |
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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >, "jmcquown" > > wrote: > >> As with most things, there is a panic about reheating food in plastic >> containers in the microwave. I've done it for 20+ years with no ill >> affects. > > You sure about that? "-) Pretty darned sure. Of course I haven't reproduced so I can't say what my spawn from hell might have turned out like ;p |
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Rich wrote:
> "zxcvbob" > wrote in message > ... >> Barbtail wrote: >> >>> >>> side note- >>> And what's with all the automatic *rain* in the produce aisle >>> now-a-days? I >>> guess it's good or they wouldn't go the expense *laughs*. I feel >>> silly shaking the water out of my romaine lettuce in the store but >>> I am not gonna pay >>> 2 bucks a pound for water. >>> >> >> It sounds like you've already figured out the answer. Spraying with >> water keeps the weight up, and most produce is sold by the pound. >> >> Bob > > I got to thinking one day, while in the produce department, that even > though one of those little plastic bags off the roll doesn't add much > weight to my purchase, a roll of the stuff is pretty heavy. In the > long run, the supermarket gets to sell it all at produce per-pound > prices. A profit center? > > --Rich No law says you have to put the produce in the bags. Jill |
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Rich wrote:
> "zxcvbob" > wrote in message > ... >> Barbtail wrote: >> >>> >>> side note- >>> And what's with all the automatic *rain* in the produce aisle >>> now-a-days? I >>> guess it's good or they wouldn't go the expense *laughs*. I feel >>> silly shaking the water out of my romaine lettuce in the store but >>> I am not gonna pay >>> 2 bucks a pound for water. >>> >> >> It sounds like you've already figured out the answer. Spraying with >> water keeps the weight up, and most produce is sold by the pound. >> >> Bob > > I got to thinking one day, while in the produce department, that even > though one of those little plastic bags off the roll doesn't add much > weight to my purchase, a roll of the stuff is pretty heavy. In the > long run, the supermarket gets to sell it all at produce per-pound > prices. A profit center? > > --Rich No law says you have to put the produce in the bags. Jill |
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Rich wrote:
> "zxcvbob" > wrote in message > ... >> Barbtail wrote: >> >>> >>> side note- >>> And what's with all the automatic *rain* in the produce aisle >>> now-a-days? I >>> guess it's good or they wouldn't go the expense *laughs*. I feel >>> silly shaking the water out of my romaine lettuce in the store but >>> I am not gonna pay >>> 2 bucks a pound for water. >>> >> >> It sounds like you've already figured out the answer. Spraying with >> water keeps the weight up, and most produce is sold by the pound. >> >> Bob > > I got to thinking one day, while in the produce department, that even > though one of those little plastic bags off the roll doesn't add much > weight to my purchase, a roll of the stuff is pretty heavy. In the > long run, the supermarket gets to sell it all at produce per-pound > prices. A profit center? > > --Rich No law says you have to put the produce in the bags. Jill |
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Phred wrote:
> In article >, > (PENMART01) wrote: >> trolled: >>> >>> Lately Ive seen a lot of info regarding >> NOT using plastic for heating or storage >> of foods. >> >> Point to some references. >> >>> Instead best to use glass. >>> >>> Any advice or opinions on this? >> >> Glass is not permitted in professional kitchens, no glass of any >> kind, not for any purpose whatsoever. > > Where do they wash the wine glasses? > > > Cheers, Phred. Totally different question. The bar glasses are washed on brush rollers and dunked in a rinsing agent, then dunked again in hot water before being allowed to stand and drip on vented mats which drain the water off into a sink. Guess you never worked in a restaurant with a bar, did you? Jill |
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Phred wrote:
> In article >, > (PENMART01) wrote: >> trolled: >>> >>> Lately Ive seen a lot of info regarding >> NOT using plastic for heating or storage >> of foods. >> >> Point to some references. >> >>> Instead best to use glass. >>> >>> Any advice or opinions on this? >> >> Glass is not permitted in professional kitchens, no glass of any >> kind, not for any purpose whatsoever. > > Where do they wash the wine glasses? > > > Cheers, Phred. Totally different question. The bar glasses are washed on brush rollers and dunked in a rinsing agent, then dunked again in hot water before being allowed to stand and drip on vented mats which drain the water off into a sink. Guess you never worked in a restaurant with a bar, did you? Jill |
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![]() "PENMART01" > wrote in message > No, no, no... it's *Silica* that's used to make glass... Silicon is a > valley in > Calyfornia. > I though silicone is what made the two big peaks under the sweater on either side of the valley. |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
... > > No law says you have to put the produce in the bags. Juggling a pound of beans to the checkout without a bag would be quite an adventure. :-) Hal Laurent Baltimore |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
... > > No law says you have to put the produce in the bags. Juggling a pound of beans to the checkout without a bag would be quite an adventure. :-) Hal Laurent Baltimore |
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![]() "jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > Rich wrote: >> "zxcvbob" > wrote in message >> ... >>> Barbtail wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> side note- >>>> And what's with all the automatic *rain* in the produce aisle >>>> now-a-days? I >>>> guess it's good or they wouldn't go the expense *laughs*. I feel >>>> silly shaking the water out of my romaine lettuce in the store but >>>> I am not gonna pay >>>> 2 bucks a pound for water. >>>> >>> >>> It sounds like you've already figured out the answer. Spraying with >>> water keeps the weight up, and most produce is sold by the pound. >>> >>> Bob >> >> I got to thinking one day, while in the produce department, that even >> though one of those little plastic bags off the roll doesn't add much >> weight to my purchase, a roll of the stuff is pretty heavy. In the >> long run, the supermarket gets to sell it all at produce per-pound >> prices. A profit center? >> >> --Rich > > No law says you have to put the produce in the bags. > > Jill > > I don't bag items that come with their own inedible wrappers, like garlic, bananas, mangoes, avocados, rutabagas, etc. Items that have usable rinds like oranges and lemons, or things that are difficult to carry in quantity like shallots or bulk nuts, get bagged. --Rich |
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![]() "jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > Rich wrote: >> "zxcvbob" > wrote in message >> ... >>> Barbtail wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> side note- >>>> And what's with all the automatic *rain* in the produce aisle >>>> now-a-days? I >>>> guess it's good or they wouldn't go the expense *laughs*. I feel >>>> silly shaking the water out of my romaine lettuce in the store but >>>> I am not gonna pay >>>> 2 bucks a pound for water. >>>> >>> >>> It sounds like you've already figured out the answer. Spraying with >>> water keeps the weight up, and most produce is sold by the pound. >>> >>> Bob >> >> I got to thinking one day, while in the produce department, that even >> though one of those little plastic bags off the roll doesn't add much >> weight to my purchase, a roll of the stuff is pretty heavy. In the >> long run, the supermarket gets to sell it all at produce per-pound >> prices. A profit center? >> >> --Rich > > No law says you have to put the produce in the bags. > > Jill > > I don't bag items that come with their own inedible wrappers, like garlic, bananas, mangoes, avocados, rutabagas, etc. Items that have usable rinds like oranges and lemons, or things that are difficult to carry in quantity like shallots or bulk nuts, get bagged. --Rich |
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![]() "jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > Rich wrote: >> "zxcvbob" > wrote in message >> ... >>> Barbtail wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> side note- >>>> And what's with all the automatic *rain* in the produce aisle >>>> now-a-days? I >>>> guess it's good or they wouldn't go the expense *laughs*. I feel >>>> silly shaking the water out of my romaine lettuce in the store but >>>> I am not gonna pay >>>> 2 bucks a pound for water. >>>> >>> >>> It sounds like you've already figured out the answer. Spraying with >>> water keeps the weight up, and most produce is sold by the pound. >>> >>> Bob >> >> I got to thinking one day, while in the produce department, that even >> though one of those little plastic bags off the roll doesn't add much >> weight to my purchase, a roll of the stuff is pretty heavy. In the >> long run, the supermarket gets to sell it all at produce per-pound >> prices. A profit center? >> >> --Rich > > No law says you have to put the produce in the bags. > > Jill > > I don't bag items that come with their own inedible wrappers, like garlic, bananas, mangoes, avocados, rutabagas, etc. Items that have usable rinds like oranges and lemons, or things that are difficult to carry in quantity like shallots or bulk nuts, get bagged. --Rich |
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![]() "PENMART01" > wrote in message ... >> (Dan Abel) >> >>Several people pointed out my mistake. I saw "silicone" and thought >>"silicon", but they are two different things. Sorry! > > No, no, no... it's *Silica* that's used to make glass... Silicon is a > valley in > Calyfornia. > > Silicon is an element. Silica is a chemical compound containing Silicon. So is silicone. But you knew that. --Rich |
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![]() "PENMART01" > wrote in message ... >> (Dan Abel) >> >>Several people pointed out my mistake. I saw "silicone" and thought >>"silicon", but they are two different things. Sorry! > > No, no, no... it's *Silica* that's used to make glass... Silicon is a > valley in > Calyfornia. > > Silicon is an element. Silica is a chemical compound containing Silicon. So is silicone. But you knew that. --Rich |
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![]() "PENMART01" > wrote in message ... >> (Dan Abel) >> >>Several people pointed out my mistake. I saw "silicone" and thought >>"silicon", but they are two different things. Sorry! > > No, no, no... it's *Silica* that's used to make glass... Silicon is a > valley in > Calyfornia. > > Silicon is an element. Silica is a chemical compound containing Silicon. So is silicone. But you knew that. --Rich |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in
: > Rich wrote: > > "zxcvbob" > wrote in message > > ... > >> Barbtail wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> side note- > >>> And what's with all the automatic *rain* in the produce aisle > >>> now-a-days? I > >>> guess it's good or they wouldn't go the expense *laughs*. I feel > >>> silly shaking the water out of my romaine lettuce in the store but > >>> I am not gonna pay > >>> 2 bucks a pound for water. > >>> > >> > >> It sounds like you've already figured out the answer. Spraying with > >> water keeps the weight up, and most produce is sold by the pound. > >> > >> Bob > > > > I got to thinking one day, while in the produce department, that even > > though one of those little plastic bags off the roll doesn't add much > > weight to my purchase, a roll of the stuff is pretty heavy. In the > > long run, the supermarket gets to sell it all at produce per-pound > > prices. A profit center? > > > > --Rich > > No law says you have to put the produce in the bags. > > Jill > > > Also each of those bags weighs so little that the cheap scales used to weigh your produce doesn't register it. In fact the scale would would be effected more by a humidity or temperature change more readily than the weight of the plastic bag. -- Starchless in Manitoba. Type 2 Diabetic 1AC 5.6mmol or 101mg/dl |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in
: > Rich wrote: > > "zxcvbob" > wrote in message > > ... > >> Barbtail wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> side note- > >>> And what's with all the automatic *rain* in the produce aisle > >>> now-a-days? I > >>> guess it's good or they wouldn't go the expense *laughs*. I feel > >>> silly shaking the water out of my romaine lettuce in the store but > >>> I am not gonna pay > >>> 2 bucks a pound for water. > >>> > >> > >> It sounds like you've already figured out the answer. Spraying with > >> water keeps the weight up, and most produce is sold by the pound. > >> > >> Bob > > > > I got to thinking one day, while in the produce department, that even > > though one of those little plastic bags off the roll doesn't add much > > weight to my purchase, a roll of the stuff is pretty heavy. In the > > long run, the supermarket gets to sell it all at produce per-pound > > prices. A profit center? > > > > --Rich > > No law says you have to put the produce in the bags. > > Jill > > > Also each of those bags weighs so little that the cheap scales used to weigh your produce doesn't register it. In fact the scale would would be effected more by a humidity or temperature change more readily than the weight of the plastic bag. -- Starchless in Manitoba. Type 2 Diabetic 1AC 5.6mmol or 101mg/dl |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in
: > Rich wrote: > > "zxcvbob" > wrote in message > > ... > >> Barbtail wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> side note- > >>> And what's with all the automatic *rain* in the produce aisle > >>> now-a-days? I > >>> guess it's good or they wouldn't go the expense *laughs*. I feel > >>> silly shaking the water out of my romaine lettuce in the store but > >>> I am not gonna pay > >>> 2 bucks a pound for water. > >>> > >> > >> It sounds like you've already figured out the answer. Spraying with > >> water keeps the weight up, and most produce is sold by the pound. > >> > >> Bob > > > > I got to thinking one day, while in the produce department, that even > > though one of those little plastic bags off the roll doesn't add much > > weight to my purchase, a roll of the stuff is pretty heavy. In the > > long run, the supermarket gets to sell it all at produce per-pound > > prices. A profit center? > > > > --Rich > > No law says you have to put the produce in the bags. > > Jill > > > Also each of those bags weighs so little that the cheap scales used to weigh your produce doesn't register it. In fact the scale would would be effected more by a humidity or temperature change more readily than the weight of the plastic bag. -- Starchless in Manitoba. Type 2 Diabetic 1AC 5.6mmol or 101mg/dl |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in
: > Melba's Jammin' wrote: > > In article >, > > "jmcquown" > wrote: > > > >> As with most things, there is a panic about reheating food in > >> plastic containers in the microwave. I've done it for 20+ years > >> with no ill affects. > > > > You sure about that? "-) > > Pretty darned sure. Of course I haven't reproduced so I can't say > what my spawn from hell might have turned out like ;p > > > Prolly cute as a button from hell. -- Starchless in Manitoba. Type 2 Diabetic 1AC 5.6mmol or 101mg/dl |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in
: > Melba's Jammin' wrote: > > In article >, > > "jmcquown" > wrote: > > > >> As with most things, there is a panic about reheating food in > >> plastic containers in the microwave. I've done it for 20+ years > >> with no ill affects. > > > > You sure about that? "-) > > Pretty darned sure. Of course I haven't reproduced so I can't say > what my spawn from hell might have turned out like ;p > > > Prolly cute as a button from hell. -- Starchless in Manitoba. Type 2 Diabetic 1AC 5.6mmol or 101mg/dl |
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jmcquown wrote:
> Melba's Jammin' wrote: >> In article >, "jmcquown" >> > wrote: >> >>> As with most things, there is a panic about reheating food in plastic >>> containers in the microwave. I've done it for 20+ years with no ill >>> affects. >> >> You sure about that? "-) > > Pretty darned sure. Of course I haven't reproduced so I can't say > what my spawn from hell might have turned out like ;p Possibly this: http://www.wagnerur.hu/itallap/drink/drunken-baby.jpg ;-) BOB |
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![]() "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message .. . > > "PENMART01" > wrote in message >> No, no, no... it's *Silica* that's used to make glass... Silicon is a >> valley in >> Calyfornia. >> > > I though silicone is what made the two big peaks under the sweater on > either side of the valley. >==================== Not always. Some farmers can produce their own. Cyndi |
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![]() "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message .. . > > "PENMART01" > wrote in message >> No, no, no... it's *Silica* that's used to make glass... Silicon is a >> valley in >> Calyfornia. >> > > I though silicone is what made the two big peaks under the sweater on > either side of the valley. >==================== Not always. Some farmers can produce their own. Cyndi |
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![]() "Barbtail" > wrote in message ... > I'm curious. What have you heard? > > > It sure bugs me when my family heats up leftovers and such in some > types > of plastic. A lot of my Tupperware has not survived the microwave age > *laughs*. Fortunately there is a new generation of plastic that seems to > have a > higher melting point. Those fumes worry me-- they can't possibly be > healthy. I > still prefer glass over any kind of plastic for the microwave. I am > ambivalent about those new bendable silicone bakeware thingies- seems too > good > to be true ya know *laughs*. > > As for food storage, plastic is king these days. Glass has the clear > advantage of being sterilizable (omg is that a word?) if you bother to > takes > those steps. Most people don't. Dishwashers are only good till ya open the > door > on a microscopic level anyway. Glass has the disadvantages of being > heavier > and breaking/chipping into dangerous pieces. In most cases I'll stick with > plastic for most food storage but I do miss the brown paper bags in the > produce section of most stores. Paper rules for dry root veggies and > mushrooms. > There's nothing grosser than slimy mushrooms-- really puts the *mush* into > mushrooms-- YUK! > > side note- > And what's with all the automatic *rain* in the produce aisle now-a-days? > I > guess it's good or they wouldn't go the expense *laughs*. I feel silly > shaking the water out of my romaine lettuce in the store but I am not > gonna pay > 2 bucks a pound for water. > > *evil grin* > > Barb Anne > ================== <giggling> Barb Anne, you are SO cute! I needed this today! I'm also in agreement with you about the bags and the water... Ummm, <giggle> I think the word you were looking for was "sterilized", maybe? <shurg> Cyndi |
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![]() > >"PENMART01" > wrote in message ... >>> (Dan Abel) >>> >>>Several people pointed out my mistake. I saw "silicone" and thought >>>"silicon", but they are two different things. Sorry! >> >> No, no, no... it's *Silica* that's used to make glass... Silicon is a valley in >> Calyfornia. >> >> > >Silicon is an element. Silica is a chemical compound containing Silicon. Obviously, see above.... can't you extrapolate? >So is silicone. Huh... what kind of fercocktah broken English is that? So is silicone WHAT???? Sheesh... just what we need, another functionally illiterate newbie *******. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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In article >, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>Phred wrote: >> In article >, >> (PENMART01) wrote: >>> trolled: >>>> >>>> Lately Ive seen a lot of info regarding >>> NOT using plastic for heating or storage >>> of foods. >>> >>> Point to some references. >>> >>>> Instead best to use glass. >>>> >>>> Any advice or opinions on this? >>> >>> Glass is not permitted in professional kitchens, no glass of any >>> kind, not for any purpose whatsoever. >> >> Where do they wash the wine glasses? > >Totally different question. The bar glasses are washed on brush rollers and >dunked in a rinsing agent, then dunked again in hot water before being >allowed to stand and drip on vented mats which drain the water off into a >sink. Guess you never worked in a restaurant with a bar, did you? Nope. But I've had many breakfasts in pubs where you get your choice of juice in a glass and the kitchen is behind the hot buffet service. (But maybe the Accor chain of pubs is not "professional"?) Cheers, Phred. -- LID |
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In article >, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>Phred wrote: >> In article >, >> (PENMART01) wrote: >>> trolled: >>>> >>>> Lately Ive seen a lot of info regarding >>> NOT using plastic for heating or storage >>> of foods. >>> >>> Point to some references. >>> >>>> Instead best to use glass. >>>> >>>> Any advice or opinions on this? >>> >>> Glass is not permitted in professional kitchens, no glass of any >>> kind, not for any purpose whatsoever. >> >> Where do they wash the wine glasses? > >Totally different question. The bar glasses are washed on brush rollers and >dunked in a rinsing agent, then dunked again in hot water before being >allowed to stand and drip on vented mats which drain the water off into a >sink. Guess you never worked in a restaurant with a bar, did you? Nope. But I've had many breakfasts in pubs where you get your choice of juice in a glass and the kitchen is behind the hot buffet service. (But maybe the Accor chain of pubs is not "professional"?) Cheers, Phred. -- LID |
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(Dan Abel) wrote: >In article >, Mark Thorson > > wrote: > >> wrote: >> >> > No ill "EFFECTS" that you KNOW of. Like most Personal Chefs, I don't >> > recommend habitual heating of food in plastic. You're using a polymer. >> >> STARCH is both a POLYMER and a CARB !!!! >> >> Don't eat STARCH or you will DIE !!! > >Mark is absolutely correct. Everyone who eats starch will die. I used to think mothers' milk was the problem; until it was pointed out to me that some people never partake of that, but they still die. Cheers, Phred. -- LID |
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In article >,
(Dan Abel) wrote: >In article >, Mark Thorson > > wrote: > >> wrote: >> >> > No ill "EFFECTS" that you KNOW of. Like most Personal Chefs, I don't >> > recommend habitual heating of food in plastic. You're using a polymer. >> >> STARCH is both a POLYMER and a CARB !!!! >> >> Don't eat STARCH or you will DIE !!! > >Mark is absolutely correct. Everyone who eats starch will die. I used to think mothers' milk was the problem; until it was pointed out to me that some people never partake of that, but they still die. Cheers, Phred. -- LID |
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>'wondering' not 'obsessing' - there's a big difference.
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