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(Phred) opines:
> >>"jmcquown" wrote: >>>Phred wrote: >>>>(PENMART01) wrote: >>>>> trolled: >>>>> >>>>> Lately Ive seen a lot of info regarding >>>> NOT using plastic for heating or storage >>>> of foods. >>>> >>>> Point to some references. >>>> >>>>> Instead best to use glass. >>>>> >>>>> Any advice or opinions on this? >>>> >>>> Glass is not permitted in professional kitchens, no glass of any >>>> kind, not for any purpose whatsoever. >>> >>> Where do they wash the wine glasses? >> >>Totally different question. The bar glasses are washed on brush rollers and >>dunked in a rinsing agent, then dunked again in hot water before being >>allowed to stand and drip on vented mats which drain the water off into a >>sink. Guess you never worked in a restaurant with a bar, did you? > >Nope. But I've had many breakfasts in pubs where you get your choice >of juice in a glass and the kitchen is behind the hot buffet service. >(But maybe the Accor chain of pubs is not "professional"?) Not only isn't that professional, that's not even a kitchen. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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>> Glass is not permitted in professional kitchens, no glass of any
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![]() > wrote: > >> Glass is not permitted in professional kitchens, no glass of any > >> kind, not for any purpose whatsoever. > > How come? Just curious.... It breaks. -- Best Greg |
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BOB wrote:
> jmcquown wrote: >> Melba's Jammin' wrote: >>> In article >, >>> "jmcquown" > wrote: >>> >>>> As with most things, there is a panic about reheating food in >>>> plastic containers in the microwave. I've done it for 20+ years >>>> with no ill affects. >>> >>> You sure about that? "-) >> >> Pretty darned sure. Of course I haven't reproduced so I can't say >> what my spawn from hell might have turned out like ;p > > Possibly this: > http://www.wagnerur.hu/itallap/drink/drunken-baby.jpg > > ;-) > > BOB Oh, I never drink that brand ![]() Jill |
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BOB wrote:
> jmcquown wrote: >> Melba's Jammin' wrote: >>> In article >, >>> "jmcquown" > wrote: >>> >>>> As with most things, there is a panic about reheating food in >>>> plastic containers in the microwave. I've done it for 20+ years >>>> with no ill affects. >>> >>> You sure about that? "-) >> >> Pretty darned sure. Of course I haven't reproduced so I can't say >> what my spawn from hell might have turned out like ;p > > Possibly this: > http://www.wagnerur.hu/itallap/drink/drunken-baby.jpg > > ;-) > > BOB Oh, I never drink that brand ![]() Jill |
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Phred wrote:
> In article >, "jmcquown" > > wrote: >> Phred wrote: >>> In article >, >>> (PENMART01) wrote: >>>> trolled: >>>>> >>>>> Lately Ive seen a lot of info regarding >>>> NOT using plastic for heating or storage >>>> of foods. >>>> >>>> Point to some references. >>>> >>>>> Instead best to use glass. >>>>> >>>>> Any advice or opinions on this? >>>> >>>> Glass is not permitted in professional kitchens, no glass of any >>>> kind, not for any purpose whatsoever. >>> >>> Where do they wash the wine glasses? >> >> Totally different question. The bar glasses are washed on brush >> rollers and >> dunked in a rinsing agent, then dunked again in hot water before >> being >> allowed to stand and drip on vented mats which drain the water off >> into a >> sink. Guess you never worked in a restaurant with a bar, did you? > > Nope. But I've had many breakfasts in pubs where you get your choice > of juice in a glass and the kitchen is behind the hot buffet service. > (But maybe the Accor chain of pubs is not "professional"?) > > Cheers, Phred. Of course restaurants use glasses for juice, milk, water, etc. But it's not the same thing as using glass mixing bowls for batters, slurries, doughs, marinades, etc. In a busy professional kitchen with much rushing around of the kitchen and waitstaff, glass simply isn't practical. Stemmed glassware for wine and drinks is barware, washed on automatic brushes as I described above. Other drink glasses are collected by the waitstaff/busboys, emptied, place placed upside down in special racks and passed through a professional dishwasher which accomodates said racks. Notice I said the glasses are placed in the racks upside down. I once had a customer try to tell me they found a metal screw in their glass of iced tea. Since I'd personally taken the glass out of the rack after it was washed, added ice and tea and served it, I knew that wasn't even vaguely possible. But voila! next visit to the table there was a screw in the bottom of the glass and they demanded to see the manager. I immediately knew the idiot was trying to scam us out of a free meal. Unfortunately, people do this a lot because they are ignorant as to what goes on in the back of the house ![]() The manager took the 50 cent glass of tea (with free refills) off their bill. Jill |
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Phred wrote:
> In article >, "jmcquown" > > wrote: >> Phred wrote: >>> In article >, >>> (PENMART01) wrote: >>>> trolled: >>>>> >>>>> Lately Ive seen a lot of info regarding >>>> NOT using plastic for heating or storage >>>> of foods. >>>> >>>> Point to some references. >>>> >>>>> Instead best to use glass. >>>>> >>>>> Any advice or opinions on this? >>>> >>>> Glass is not permitted in professional kitchens, no glass of any >>>> kind, not for any purpose whatsoever. >>> >>> Where do they wash the wine glasses? >> >> Totally different question. The bar glasses are washed on brush >> rollers and >> dunked in a rinsing agent, then dunked again in hot water before >> being >> allowed to stand and drip on vented mats which drain the water off >> into a >> sink. Guess you never worked in a restaurant with a bar, did you? > > Nope. But I've had many breakfasts in pubs where you get your choice > of juice in a glass and the kitchen is behind the hot buffet service. > (But maybe the Accor chain of pubs is not "professional"?) > > Cheers, Phred. Of course restaurants use glasses for juice, milk, water, etc. But it's not the same thing as using glass mixing bowls for batters, slurries, doughs, marinades, etc. In a busy professional kitchen with much rushing around of the kitchen and waitstaff, glass simply isn't practical. Stemmed glassware for wine and drinks is barware, washed on automatic brushes as I described above. Other drink glasses are collected by the waitstaff/busboys, emptied, place placed upside down in special racks and passed through a professional dishwasher which accomodates said racks. Notice I said the glasses are placed in the racks upside down. I once had a customer try to tell me they found a metal screw in their glass of iced tea. Since I'd personally taken the glass out of the rack after it was washed, added ice and tea and served it, I knew that wasn't even vaguely possible. But voila! next visit to the table there was a screw in the bottom of the glass and they demanded to see the manager. I immediately knew the idiot was trying to scam us out of a free meal. Unfortunately, people do this a lot because they are ignorant as to what goes on in the back of the house ![]() The manager took the 50 cent glass of tea (with free refills) off their bill. Jill |
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>"jmcquown" writes:
>>Phred wrote: >>>"jmcquown" >>>> Phred wrote: >>>>>(PENMART01) wrote: >>>>>> trolled: >>>>>> >>>>>> Lately Ive seen a lot of info regarding >>>>> NOT using plastic for heating or storage >>>>> of foods. >>>>> >>>>> Point to some references. >>>>> >>>>>> Instead best to use glass. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any advice or opinions on this? >>>>> >>>>> Glass is not permitted in professional kitchens, no glass of any >>>>> kind, not for any purpose whatsoever. >>>> >>>> Where do they wash the wine glasses? >>> >>> Totally different question. The bar glasses are washed on brush >>> rollers and >>> dunked in a rinsing agent, then dunked again in hot water before >>> being >>> allowed to stand and drip on vented mats which drain the water off >>> into a >>> sink. Guess you never worked in a restaurant with a bar, did you? >> >> Nope. But I've had many breakfasts in pubs where you get your choice >> of juice in a glass and the kitchen is behind the hot buffet service. >> (But maybe the Accor chain of pubs is not "professional"?) >> >> Cheers, Phred. > >Of course restaurants use glasses for juice, milk, water, etc. But it's not >the same thing as using glass mixing bowls for batters, slurries, doughs, >marinades, etc. In a busy professional kitchen with much rushing around of >the kitchen and waitstaff, glass simply isn't practical. > >Stemmed glassware for wine and drinks is barware, washed on automatic >brushes as I described above. Other drink glasses are collected by the >waitstaff/busboys, emptied, place placed upside down in special racks and >passed through a professional dishwasher which accomodates said racks. > >Notice I said the glasses are placed in the racks upside down. I once had a >customer try to tell me they found a metal screw in their glass of iced tea. >Since I'd personally taken the glass out of the rack after it was washed, >added ice and tea and served it, I knew that wasn't even vaguely possible. >But voila! next visit to the table there was a screw in the bottom of the >glass and they demanded to see the manager. I immediately knew the idiot >was trying to scam us out of a free meal. Unfortunately, people do this a >lot because they are ignorant as to what goes on in the back of the house ![]() >The manager took the 50 cent glass of tea (with free refills) off their >bill. Talk about not knowing what goes on in the back of the house... pinheads like that are fools, don't they realize those kitchen doors swing both ways... I'd have comped him with a screwdriver iced tea; vodka, oj, and pee. Btw, I don't believe this story, any real restaurant owner would have called the police and filed charges against that patron for food tampering, which carries a very stiff penalty.... there are literally over a million different types of screw fasteners (and I'm being very conservative, probably closer to 5 million), would be simple enough to search that person for more screws of the same type. And certainly easy enough to eliminate that type from the restaurant equipment. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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PENMART01 wrote:
>> "jmcquown" writes: >>> Phred wrote: >>>> "jmcquown" >>>>> Phred wrote: >>>>>> (PENMART01) wrote: >>>>>>> trolled: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lately Ive seen a lot of info regarding >>>>>> NOT using plastic for heating or storage >>>>>> of foods. >>>>>> >>>>>> Point to some references. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Instead best to use glass. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any advice or opinions on this? >>>>>> >>>>>> Glass is not permitted in professional kitchens, no glass of any >>>>>> kind, not for any purpose whatsoever. >>>>> >>>>> Where do they wash the wine glasses? >>>> >>>> Totally different question. The bar glasses are washed on brush >>>> rollers and >>>> dunked in a rinsing agent, then dunked again in hot water before >>>> being >>>> allowed to stand and drip on vented mats which drain the water off >>>> into a >>>> sink. Guess you never worked in a restaurant with a bar, did you? >>> >>> Nope. But I've had many breakfasts in pubs where you get your >>> choice >>> of juice in a glass and the kitchen is behind the hot buffet >>> service. (But maybe the Accor chain of pubs is not "professional"?) >>> >>> Cheers, Phred. >> >> Of course restaurants use glasses for juice, milk, water, etc. But >> it's not the same thing as using glass mixing bowls for batters, >> slurries, doughs, marinades, etc. In a busy professional kitchen >> with much rushing around of the kitchen and waitstaff, glass simply >> isn't practical. >> >> Stemmed glassware for wine and drinks is barware, washed on automatic >> brushes as I described above. Other drink glasses are collected by >> the waitstaff/busboys, emptied, place placed upside down in special >> racks and passed through a professional dishwasher which accomodates >> said racks. >> >> Notice I said the glasses are placed in the racks upside down. I >> once had a customer try to tell me they found a metal screw in their >> glass of iced tea. Since I'd personally taken the glass out of the >> rack after it was washed, added ice and tea and served it, I knew >> that wasn't even vaguely possible. But voila! next visit to the >> table there was a screw in the bottom of the glass and they demanded >> to see the manager. I immediately knew the idiot >> was trying to scam us out of a free meal. Unfortunately, people do >> this a lot because they are ignorant as to what goes on in the back >> of the house ![]() >> refills) off their >> bill. > > Talk about not knowing what goes on in the back of the house... > pinheads like that are fools, don't they realize those kitchen doors > swing both ways... I'd have comped him with a screwdriver iced tea; > vodka, oj, and pee. > > Btw, I don't believe this story, any real restaurant owner (snippage) Tough you don't believe it. I was there; it happened. I wasn't a server at the time; I was a hostess helping during a busy lunch shift by taking drinks (not bar drinks) to patrons while their servers were busy. Chain restaurants don't have "owners" in the house - the owner is a corporation. The manager comped a 50 cent glass of tea and refused to believe their claims and they left quickly enough. No need to call the cops over a friggin glass of tea. Jill would have > called the police and filed charges against that patron for food > tampering, which carries a very stiff penalty.... there are literally > over a million different types of screw fasteners (and I'm being very > conservative, probably closer to 5 million), would be simple enough > to search that person for more screws of the same type. And > certainly easy enough to eliminate that type from the restaurant > equipment. > > > ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- > ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- > ********* > "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." > Sheldon > ```````````` |
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jmcquown wrote:
> BOB wrote: >> jmcquown wrote: >>> Melba's Jammin' wrote: >>>> "jmcquown" wrote: >>>>> As with most things, there is a panic about reheating food in >>>>> plastic containers in the microwave. I've done it for 20+ years >>>>> with no ill affects. >>>> You sure about that? "-) >>> Pretty darned sure. Of course I haven't reproduced so I can't say >>> what my spawn from hell might have turned out like ;p >> Possibly this: >> http://www.wagnerur.hu/itallap/drink/drunken-baby.jpg >> ;-) >> BOB > Oh, I never drink that brand ![]() > Jill ;-) |
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jmcquown wrote:
> BOB wrote: >> jmcquown wrote: >>> Melba's Jammin' wrote: >>>> "jmcquown" wrote: >>>>> As with most things, there is a panic about reheating food in >>>>> plastic containers in the microwave. I've done it for 20+ years >>>>> with no ill affects. >>>> You sure about that? "-) >>> Pretty darned sure. Of course I haven't reproduced so I can't say >>> what my spawn from hell might have turned out like ;p >> Possibly this: >> http://www.wagnerur.hu/itallap/drink/drunken-baby.jpg >> ;-) >> BOB > Oh, I never drink that brand ![]() > Jill ;-) |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote: > It breaks. Or worse, chips. Another no-no is when bartenders or wait-staff scoop up ice with a glass. -- to respond (OT only), change "spamless.invalid" to "optonline.net" <http://www.thecoffeefaq.com/> |
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In article >,
"Gregory Morrow" > wrote: > It breaks. Or worse, chips. Another no-no is when bartenders or wait-staff scoop up ice with a glass. -- to respond (OT only), change "spamless.invalid" to "optonline.net" <http://www.thecoffeefaq.com/> |
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> Scott heimdall writes:
> >>"Gregory Morrow" wrote: >> >>It breaks. > > >Or worse, chips. >Another no-no is when bartenders or wait-staff scoop up ice with a glass. Good bartenders scoop ice with a metal shaker bottom... never a glass. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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> Scott heimdall writes:
> >>"Gregory Morrow" wrote: >> >>It breaks. > > >Or worse, chips. >Another no-no is when bartenders or wait-staff scoop up ice with a glass. Good bartenders scoop ice with a metal shaker bottom... never a glass. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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![]() "PENMART01" > wrote in message ... > >> >>"PENMART01" > wrote in message ... >>>> (Dan Abel) >>>> >>>>Several people pointed out my mistake. I saw "silicone" and thought >>>>"silicon", but they are two different things. Sorry! >>> >>> No, no, no... it's *Silica* that's used to make glass... Silicon is a > valley in >>> Calyfornia. >>> >>> >> >>Silicon is an element. Silica is a chemical compound containing Silicon. > > Obviously, see above.... can't you extrapolate? > >>So is silicone. > > Huh... what kind of fercocktah broken English is that? So is silicone > WHAT???? > > Sheesh... just what we need, another functionally illiterate newbie > *******. > My first instinct was to point out that you are a rude lowlife cur with an anger management problem. But that would be impolite. So I will only defend my literacy skills to the extent of offering to help you with your reading comprehension difficulties if you can manage to ask without being insulting. --Rich |
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![]() Scott wrote: > In article >, > "Gregory Morrow" > > wrote: > > > It breaks. > > > Or worse, chips. > Another no-no is when bartenders or wait-staff scoop up ice with a glass. > AFAIK that's a health code violation in some places... -- Best Greg |
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![]() Scott wrote: > In article >, > "Gregory Morrow" > > wrote: > > > It breaks. > > > Or worse, chips. > Another no-no is when bartenders or wait-staff scoop up ice with a glass. > AFAIK that's a health code violation in some places... -- Best Greg |
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![]() Rich wrote: > "PENMART01" > wrote in message > ... > > > >> > >>"PENMART01" > wrote in message > ... > >>>> (Dan Abel) > >>>> > >>>>Several people pointed out my mistake. I saw "silicone" and thought > >>>>"silicon", but they are two different things. Sorry! > >>> > >>> No, no, no... it's *Silica* that's used to make glass... Silicon is a > > valley in > >>> Calyfornia. > >>> > >>> > >> > >>Silicon is an element. Silica is a chemical compound containing Silicon. > > > > Obviously, see above.... can't you extrapolate? > > > >>So is silicone. > > > > Huh... what kind of fercocktah broken English is that? So is silicone > > WHAT???? > > > > Sheesh... just what we need, another functionally illiterate newbie > > *******. > > > > > My first instinct was to point out that you are a rude lowlife cur with an > anger management problem. But that would be impolite. So I will only defend > my literacy skills to the extent of offering to help you with your reading > comprehension difficulties if you can manage to ask without being insulting. > {{{{{{{{feel the LUV}}}}}}} -- Best Greg ;-p |
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![]() Rich wrote: > "PENMART01" > wrote in message > ... > > > >> > >>"PENMART01" > wrote in message > ... > >>>> (Dan Abel) > >>>> > >>>>Several people pointed out my mistake. I saw "silicone" and thought > >>>>"silicon", but they are two different things. Sorry! > >>> > >>> No, no, no... it's *Silica* that's used to make glass... Silicon is a > > valley in > >>> Calyfornia. > >>> > >>> > >> > >>Silicon is an element. Silica is a chemical compound containing Silicon. > > > > Obviously, see above.... can't you extrapolate? > > > >>So is silicone. > > > > Huh... what kind of fercocktah broken English is that? So is silicone > > WHAT???? > > > > Sheesh... just what we need, another functionally illiterate newbie > > *******. > > > > > My first instinct was to point out that you are a rude lowlife cur with an > anger management problem. But that would be impolite. So I will only defend > my literacy skills to the extent of offering to help you with your reading > comprehension difficulties if you can manage to ask without being insulting. > {{{{{{{{feel the LUV}}}}}}} -- Best Greg ;-p |
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![]() Peter Aitken wrote in message ... >"elaine" > wrote in message ... >> "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message >> m... >> > > wrote in message >> > ... >> > > Lately Ive seen a lot of info regarding NOT using >> > > plastic for heating or storage of foods. >> > > >> > > Instead best to use glass. >> > > >> > > Any advice or opinions on this? >> > >> > If anything, plastic is likely to be safer now than in the past. Yu >can't >> go >> > wrong with glass, of course, but if you stick with food-use plastic and >do >> > not put any n the microwave unless specified to be safe, you should be >> fine. >> > >> I've been wondering about silicone. Sometimes, years and years later >> studies show materials used everyday; e.g. plastic in the microwave - are >> said to be unsafe. >> > >Life itself is unsafe, always ending in death. Every time you drive in your >car you are taking far greater risks that any plastic can cause. People >should take reasonable precautions, but obsessing about small unproven risks >is not a good way to spend your time and energy. there are a few customers who shop at the grocery store i work at who are afraid of scanners. they make the cashier put a paper bag over it and ring everything in by hand. -- saerah TANSTAAFL -----------== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----= Over 100,000 Newsgroups - Unlimited Fast Downloads - 19 Servers =----- |
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![]() Peter Aitken wrote in message ... >"elaine" > wrote in message ... >> "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message >> m... >> > > wrote in message >> > ... >> > > Lately Ive seen a lot of info regarding NOT using >> > > plastic for heating or storage of foods. >> > > >> > > Instead best to use glass. >> > > >> > > Any advice or opinions on this? >> > >> > If anything, plastic is likely to be safer now than in the past. Yu >can't >> go >> > wrong with glass, of course, but if you stick with food-use plastic and >do >> > not put any n the microwave unless specified to be safe, you should be >> fine. >> > >> I've been wondering about silicone. Sometimes, years and years later >> studies show materials used everyday; e.g. plastic in the microwave - are >> said to be unsafe. >> > >Life itself is unsafe, always ending in death. Every time you drive in your >car you are taking far greater risks that any plastic can cause. People >should take reasonable precautions, but obsessing about small unproven risks >is not a good way to spend your time and energy. there are a few customers who shop at the grocery store i work at who are afraid of scanners. they make the cashier put a paper bag over it and ring everything in by hand. -- saerah TANSTAAFL -----------== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----= Over 100,000 Newsgroups - Unlimited Fast Downloads - 19 Servers =----- |
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![]() > wrote in message > > Plastic used to be safe. But not any more. If you use plastic to store > foods, you will surely die. I have proof. Happened to my grandparents first, some years later, my parents died. It was a slow death that took over 80 years. -- Ed http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/ |
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![]() "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message .. . > > > wrote in message >> >> Plastic used to be safe. But not any more. If you use plastic to store >> foods, you will surely die. > > I have proof. Happened to my grandparents first, some years later, my > parents died. It was a slow death that took over 80 years. > -- > Ed Nothing's safe anymore. My great aunt recently passed away. She ate oatmeal all her life. Beware. Scott. |
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![]() "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message .. . > > > wrote in message >> >> Plastic used to be safe. But not any more. If you use plastic to store >> foods, you will surely die. > > I have proof. Happened to my grandparents first, some years later, my > parents died. It was a slow death that took over 80 years. > -- > Ed Nothing's safe anymore. My great aunt recently passed away. She ate oatmeal all her life. Beware. Scott. |
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In rec.food.cooking, Edwin Pawlowski > wrote:
> > wrote in message > > > > Plastic used to be safe. But not any more. If you use plastic to store > > foods, you will surely die. > I have proof. Happened to my grandparents first, some years later, my > parents died. It was a slow death that took over 80 years. If it happened to them, it could happen to anybody. -- In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. -- Dwight David Eisenhower |
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