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On 2004-12-16, Gal Called J.J. > wrote:
> > This easily qualifies as "Best Post in Thread"... :-) Is there a cash prize? I'm low on beer.  nb |
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On 2004-12-16, Gal Called J.J. > wrote:
> > This easily qualifies as "Best Post in Thread"... :-) Is there a cash prize? I'm low on beer. nb |
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>(Hazels65)
(PENMART01) wrote: >>> (Barbtail) hallucinates: >>> >>>It's either. >> >> >>What? Are you bi? > >Now, hold on. What if they succeed in crossbreeding a pig and a cow, or a >sheep. What would you call the fat? Is there a special name for human fat? >Adipose tissue? Not that I plan to cook anyone soon. > >Henrietta/Henry I suppose I caught a bi one. hehe ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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>(Hazels65)
(PENMART01) wrote: >>> (Barbtail) hallucinates: >>> >>>It's either. >> >> >>What? Are you bi? > >Now, hold on. What if they succeed in crossbreeding a pig and a cow, or a >sheep. What would you call the fat? Is there a special name for human fat? >Adipose tissue? Not that I plan to cook anyone soon. > >Henrietta/Henry I suppose I caught a bi one. hehe ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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Squet wrote:
> I'm convinced that lard is pork fat, but my girlfriend says it's beef fat. You're correct, it's pork fat, I'm quite sure. Cheers, -Chris |
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Squet wrote:
> I'm convinced that lard is pork fat, but my girlfriend says it's beef fat. You're correct, it's pork fat, I'm quite sure. Cheers, -Chris |
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Squet wrote:
>I'm convinced that lard is pork fat, but my girlfriend says it's beef fat. > >Anyone? > > > > Pork....unless you're from the South, then it's "poke" fat. Not to be confused with Poke sallet....which is a "whole mess of" poke...but not pork. Whole mess of pork is a pig-pickin'. Right????? Sometimes, being Southern confuses me. Bubba -- You wanna measure, or you wanna cook? |
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Squet wrote:
>I'm convinced that lard is pork fat, but my girlfriend says it's beef fat. > >Anyone? > > > > Pork....unless you're from the South, then it's "poke" fat. Not to be confused with Poke sallet....which is a "whole mess of" poke...but not pork. Whole mess of pork is a pig-pickin'. Right????? Sometimes, being Southern confuses me. Bubba -- You wanna measure, or you wanna cook? |
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>Bubba pepper44 babbled:
> >Squet wrote: > >>I'm convinced that lard is pork fat, but my girlfriend says it's beef fat. >> >>Anyone? > >Pork....unless you're from the South, then it's "poke" fat. Not to be >confused with Poke sallet....which is a "whole mess of" poke...but not >pork. Whole mess of pork is a pig-pickin'. >Right????? >Sometimes, being Southern confuses me. >Bubba Being Southern *everything* is confusing. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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>Bubba pepper44 babbled:
> >Squet wrote: > >>I'm convinced that lard is pork fat, but my girlfriend says it's beef fat. >> >>Anyone? > >Pork....unless you're from the South, then it's "poke" fat. Not to be >confused with Poke sallet....which is a "whole mess of" poke...but not >pork. Whole mess of pork is a pig-pickin'. >Right????? >Sometimes, being Southern confuses me. >Bubba Being Southern *everything* is confusing. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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I thought suet came from around the kidneys ?
Yeff wrote: > On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 09:45:12 -0600, Melba's Jammin' wrote: > > >>You're right. Beef fat is suet. > > > I always thought it was kind of sourt... > |
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I thought suet came from around the kidneys ?
Yeff wrote: > On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 09:45:12 -0600, Melba's Jammin' wrote: > > >>You're right. Beef fat is suet. > > > I always thought it was kind of sourt... > |
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In article >, Yeff
> wrote: > On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 09:45:12 -0600, Melba's Jammin' wrote: > > > You're right. Beef fat is suet. > > I always thought it was kind of sourt... ROFL!! You wag, you!! -- -Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> "Are we going to measure or are we going to cook?" -Food writer Mimi Sheraton |
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In article >,
"Squet" > wrote: > I'm convinced that lard is pork fat, but my girlfriend says it's beef fat. > > Anyone? > > Lard is pork fat. Tallow is beef fat. Schmaltz is chicken or other poultry fat. -- K. |
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"Wazza" > wrote in message ... > > "Squet" > wrote in message > ... >> I'm convinced that lard is pork fat, but my girlfriend says it's beef >> fat. >> >> Anyone? >> > will you never learn, your gilrfriend is ALWAYS right.... Exactly! If a man speaks in the woods, and there is no woman there to hear him, is he still wrong? Ask any woman, and the answer will come instantly. ;o) Rich |
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Rich wrote:
> "Wazza" > wrote in message > ... > >>"Squet" > wrote in message ... >> >>>I'm convinced that lard is pork fat, but my girlfriend says it's beef >>>fat. >>> >>>Anyone? >>> >> >>will you never learn, your gilrfriend is ALWAYS right.... > > > Exactly! Yup. I learned a long time ago that it's easier just to go into what I call "doggie in the window" mode. (remember those fake dogs people used to have on the back ledge in their cars and head would bob up and down?). Couple that along with the phrase "yes, Dear" and you now have the secret of peaceful coexistence. (of course, then you do what you wanted to do in the first place. ;-) ) -- Steve Every job is a self-portrait of the person who did it. Autograph your work with excellence. |
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> "Rich" joshew@hawaii tinkled his uke:
> >If a man speaks in the woods, and there is no woman there to hear him, is he >still wrong? Ask any woman, and the answer will come instantly. > >Rich/Dick-Head Aloha, Dick-Head, Don't Hawaiians teach proper grammar? Commas are not decorations. All your commas are superfluous, or is that your broken English Eyetalian axe-cent?. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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"Gal Called J.J." > wrote in message
... > One time on Usenet, (PENMART01) said: > > (Gal Called J.J.) > > >One time on Usenet, "Squet" > said: > > > >> I'm convinced that lard is pork fat, but my girlfriend says it's beef fat. > > >> > > >> Anyone? > > > >Lard is indeed rendered fat from pork -- beef fat, OTOH, is > > >called "tallow". > > > Nope, rendered beef fat is well, rendered beef fat (beef schmaltz). Tallow is > > *refined* fat, can be any fat. > > Hmmm, I sit corrected. Guess ya learn something new every day.... > > Tallow is *not* just rendered or refined beef fat. It is properly used to refer to the fatty tissue of animals, or the harder fat of sheep, cattle and other animals separated by melting. The word is also used to refer to fatty substances in general, such as vegetable tallow. -- Peter Aitken Remove the crap from my email address before using. |
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"Gal Called J.J." > wrote in message
... > One time on Usenet, (PENMART01) said: > > (Gal Called J.J.) > > >One time on Usenet, "Squet" > said: > > > >> I'm convinced that lard is pork fat, but my girlfriend says it's beef fat. > > >> > > >> Anyone? > > > >Lard is indeed rendered fat from pork -- beef fat, OTOH, is > > >called "tallow". > > > Nope, rendered beef fat is well, rendered beef fat (beef schmaltz). Tallow is > > *refined* fat, can be any fat. > > Hmmm, I sit corrected. Guess ya learn something new every day.... > > Tallow is *not* just rendered or refined beef fat. It is properly used to refer to the fatty tissue of animals, or the harder fat of sheep, cattle and other animals separated by melting. The word is also used to refer to fatty substances in general, such as vegetable tallow. -- Peter Aitken Remove the crap from my email address before using. |
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>"Peter Aitken"
> >"Gal Called J.J." ... >>(PENMART01) said: >> > (Gal Called J.J.) said: >> > >"Squet" said: >> >> > >> I'm convinced that lard is pork fat, but my girlfriend says it's beef >fat. >> > >> >> > >> Anyone? >> >> > >Lard is indeed rendered fat from pork -- beef fat, OTOH, is >> > >called "tallow". >> >> > Nope, rendered beef fat is well, rendered beef fat (beef schmaltz). >Tallow is >> > *refined* fat, can be any fat. >> >> Hmmm, I sit corrected. Guess ya learn something new every day.... >> >> > >Tallow is *not* just rendered or refined beef fat. Nope, it's rendered AND refined... can't you read? It is properly used to >refer to the fatty tissue of animals, or the harder fat of sheep, cattle and >other animals separated by melting. Those would be suet... stop being a fat head. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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>"Peter Aitken"
> >"Gal Called J.J." ... >>(PENMART01) said: >> > (Gal Called J.J.) said: >> > >"Squet" said: >> >> > >> I'm convinced that lard is pork fat, but my girlfriend says it's beef >fat. >> > >> >> > >> Anyone? >> >> > >Lard is indeed rendered fat from pork -- beef fat, OTOH, is >> > >called "tallow". >> >> > Nope, rendered beef fat is well, rendered beef fat (beef schmaltz). >Tallow is >> > *refined* fat, can be any fat. >> >> Hmmm, I sit corrected. Guess ya learn something new every day.... >> >> > >Tallow is *not* just rendered or refined beef fat. Nope, it's rendered AND refined... can't you read? It is properly used to >refer to the fatty tissue of animals, or the harder fat of sheep, cattle and >other animals separated by melting. Those would be suet... stop being a fat head. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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Katra wrote: > In article >, > "Squet" > wrote: > > > I'm convinced that lard is pork fat, but my girlfriend says it's beef fat. > > > > Anyone? > > > > > > Lard is pork fat. > Tallow is beef fat. > Schmaltz is chicken or other poultry fat. Heehee...I wonder if this guy "porks", "lards", tallows" or "schmaltzes" his gf...??? ;-p -- Best Greg |
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Katra wrote: > In article >, > "Squet" > wrote: > > > I'm convinced that lard is pork fat, but my girlfriend says it's beef fat. > > > > Anyone? > > > > > > Lard is pork fat. > Tallow is beef fat. > Schmaltz is chicken or other poultry fat. Heehee...I wonder if this guy "porks", "lards", tallows" or "schmaltzes" his gf...??? ;-p -- Best Greg |
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>Tallow is *not* just rendered or refined beef fat. It is properly used to
>refer to the fatty tissue of animals, or the harder fat of sheep, cattle and >other animals separated by melting. The word is also used to refer to fatty >substances in general, such as vegetable tallow. > > >-- >Peter Aitken So then there isn't a specific term for rendered beef fat? (Lard is always pork fat but tallow isn't always beef fat) Interesting *laughs* Barb Anne |
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>Tallow is *not* just rendered or refined beef fat. It is properly used to
>refer to the fatty tissue of animals, or the harder fat of sheep, cattle and >other animals separated by melting. The word is also used to refer to fatty >substances in general, such as vegetable tallow. > > >-- >Peter Aitken So then there isn't a specific term for rendered beef fat? (Lard is always pork fat but tallow isn't always beef fat) Interesting *laughs* Barb Anne |
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>(Barbtail) scratches on her cave wall:
> >So then there isn't a specific term for rendered beef fat? (Lard is always >pork >fat but tallow isn't always beef fat) Interesting *laughs* Why do you find learning a joke... did you go to high school... bet you didn't finish *laughs*. Tallow can be made from any animal fat... even pig fat... usually produced from a mixture of fats. Tallow is fat that has been rendered AND ALSO has undergone a chemical transformation (refining). There are many ways tallow is made, depending on how it's to be used... some tallow is edible (by humans) but most tallow is inedible (a lot is used in animal feed - tallow doesn't go rancid). Fat that has been simply rendered is well, rendered fat... why is that such a difficult concept to grasp? Lard is actually rendered pork fat that has ALSO been purified. Pork fat which has simply been rendered is not lard. There are many grades of lard, depending on how pure.... pork fat can be turned into tallow too, but is more valuable as a food product.... purified and refined are not synonyous. Companys like Colgate and P&G buy up futures on animal fat from all over the world (for manufacturing soaps, cosmetics, etc.), mostly they purchase fat from goats, camels, yaks, and many other animals, because their fats produce a much finer grade of tallow.... next time you use lipstick remember it's probably part refined yak fat. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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>(Barbtail) scratches on her cave wall:
> >So then there isn't a specific term for rendered beef fat? (Lard is always >pork >fat but tallow isn't always beef fat) Interesting *laughs* Why do you find learning a joke... did you go to high school... bet you didn't finish *laughs*. Tallow can be made from any animal fat... even pig fat... usually produced from a mixture of fats. Tallow is fat that has been rendered AND ALSO has undergone a chemical transformation (refining). There are many ways tallow is made, depending on how it's to be used... some tallow is edible (by humans) but most tallow is inedible (a lot is used in animal feed - tallow doesn't go rancid). Fat that has been simply rendered is well, rendered fat... why is that such a difficult concept to grasp? Lard is actually rendered pork fat that has ALSO been purified. Pork fat which has simply been rendered is not lard. There are many grades of lard, depending on how pure.... pork fat can be turned into tallow too, but is more valuable as a food product.... purified and refined are not synonyous. Companys like Colgate and P&G buy up futures on animal fat from all over the world (for manufacturing soaps, cosmetics, etc.), mostly they purchase fat from goats, camels, yaks, and many other animals, because their fats produce a much finer grade of tallow.... next time you use lipstick remember it's probably part refined yak fat. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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Barbtail wrote:
>>Tallow is *not* just rendered or refined beef fat. It is properly used to >>refer to the fatty tissue of animals, or the harder fat of sheep, cattle and >>other animals separated by melting. The word is also used to refer to fatty >>substances in general, such as vegetable tallow. >> >> >>-- >>Peter Aitken >> >> > > >So then there isn't a specific term for rendered beef fat? (Lard is always pork >fat but tallow isn't always beef fat) Interesting *laughs* > > >Barb Anne > > > > Russian parts, American parts....all made in Taiwan! from Armageddon -- You wanna measure, or you wanna cook? |
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Barbtail wrote:
>>Tallow is *not* just rendered or refined beef fat. It is properly used to >>refer to the fatty tissue of animals, or the harder fat of sheep, cattle and >>other animals separated by melting. The word is also used to refer to fatty >>substances in general, such as vegetable tallow. >> >> >>-- >>Peter Aitken >> >> > > >So then there isn't a specific term for rendered beef fat? (Lard is always pork >fat but tallow isn't always beef fat) Interesting *laughs* > > >Barb Anne > > > > Russian parts, American parts....all made in Taiwan! from Armageddon -- You wanna measure, or you wanna cook? |
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Sheldon, aside from the fact that you clearly flunked charm school, you don't
know WTF you are talking about -- what *chemical process*, Einstein? Are you confused? We aren't talking about making soap here, genius. Don't bother to reply -google is far more informative and pleasant. http://www.bartleby.com/65/ta/tallow.html "The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. 2001. tallow solid fat extracted from the tissues and fatty deposits of animals, especially from suet (the fat of cattle and sheep). Pure tallow is white, odorless and tasteless; it consists chiefly of triglycerides of stearic, palmitic, and oleic acids. ---->>>It is usually obtained commercially by heating suet under pressure in closed vessels. <<<---- Tallow is used to make soap and candles. It was formerly in common use as a lubricant. " No *chemical process* just heat and filtering. Lye is added to tallow and that *chemical process* makes soap. I question your skills as a cook when you can't tell soap from fat, Sheldon. *cheerios* Barb Anne |
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Sheldon, aside from the fact that you clearly flunked charm school, you don't
know WTF you are talking about -- what *chemical process*, Einstein? Are you confused? We aren't talking about making soap here, genius. Don't bother to reply -google is far more informative and pleasant. http://www.bartleby.com/65/ta/tallow.html "The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. 2001. tallow solid fat extracted from the tissues and fatty deposits of animals, especially from suet (the fat of cattle and sheep). Pure tallow is white, odorless and tasteless; it consists chiefly of triglycerides of stearic, palmitic, and oleic acids. ---->>>It is usually obtained commercially by heating suet under pressure in closed vessels. <<<---- Tallow is used to make soap and candles. It was formerly in common use as a lubricant. " No *chemical process* just heat and filtering. Lye is added to tallow and that *chemical process* makes soap. I question your skills as a cook when you can't tell soap from fat, Sheldon. *cheerios* Barb Anne |
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>(Barbtail)
> >Sheldon, aside from the fact that you clearly flunked charm school, you >don't >know WTF you are talking about -- what *chemical process*, Einstein? Are >you >confused? We aren't talking about making soap here, genius. Don't bother to >reply -google is far more informative and pleasant. > >http://www.bartleby.com/65/ta/tallow.htm Aha, your Little Golden Book Encyclopedia. Tallow is used to make soap, candles, all sorts of products, but first one must make tallow, and simply rendering/melting fat does NOT result in tallow... to make tallow the melted/rendered fat must be *refined* by chemical transformation... the oldest chemical used for refining fat to make tallow is "water" (H2O)... yes, water, the universal solvent is indeed a chemical.... there are many more complicated methods employing vacuum chambers, acid extractions, all sorts of processes but the most basic method is to boil melted fat with water... Perhaps your pea brain will be capable of comprehending the following ultra-simplified explanation... try to remember, it's not about making soap, it's about making tallow so that the tallow can then be made into soap.... try to focus those scant few cells you call your brain. http://hospice.xtn.net/soap/soaptal.htm ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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>(Barbtail)
> >Sheldon, aside from the fact that you clearly flunked charm school, you >don't >know WTF you are talking about -- what *chemical process*, Einstein? Are >you >confused? We aren't talking about making soap here, genius. Don't bother to >reply -google is far more informative and pleasant. > >http://www.bartleby.com/65/ta/tallow.htm Aha, your Little Golden Book Encyclopedia. Tallow is used to make soap, candles, all sorts of products, but first one must make tallow, and simply rendering/melting fat does NOT result in tallow... to make tallow the melted/rendered fat must be *refined* by chemical transformation... the oldest chemical used for refining fat to make tallow is "water" (H2O)... yes, water, the universal solvent is indeed a chemical.... there are many more complicated methods employing vacuum chambers, acid extractions, all sorts of processes but the most basic method is to boil melted fat with water... Perhaps your pea brain will be capable of comprehending the following ultra-simplified explanation... try to remember, it's not about making soap, it's about making tallow so that the tallow can then be made into soap.... try to focus those scant few cells you call your brain. http://hospice.xtn.net/soap/soaptal.htm ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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Foaming at the mouth again, Shelly?
*hearty laugh* I'm in a mood- don't even try, hun. *laughs* Barb Anne |
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