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Miserable Christmas
Had to spend Christmas Day with my sister, whom I don't like; her husband, whom
I don't like; and their cats that I'm allergic to. |
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No you didn't
"DJS0302" > wrote in message ... > Had to spend Christmas Day with my sister, whom I don't like; her husband, > whom > I don't like; and their cats that I'm allergic to. |
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> ospam (DJS0302) wrote: > >> Had to spend Christmas Day with my sister, whom I don't like; her >> husband, >> whom >> I don't like; and their cats that I'm allergic to. You have to learn to say NO. Unless you are underage, no on can make you spend time with others you don't like. |
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"DJS0302" wrote:
> Had to spend Christmas Day with my sister, whom I don't like; her husband, whom > I don't like; and their cats that I'm allergic to. You didn't *have* to do any such thing. |
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> Had to spend Christmas Day with my sister, whom I don't like; her husband,
>whom >> I don't like; and their cats that I'm allergic to. Were you kidnapped? How dreadful. How did you escape or do they just kidnap you for dinner and let you go after that? Do they always do this? Maybe next year you should lock the door. Joelle The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St Augustine Joelle |
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>> ospam (DJS0302) wrote: >> >>> Had to spend Christmas Day with my sister, whom I don't like; her >>> husband, >>> whom >>> I don't like; and their cats that I'm allergic to. > > You have to learn to say NO. Unless you are underage, no on can make > you spend time with others you don't like. Exactly. Now I don't dislike my brother, although we don't always see eye to eye, but I elected to stay home this year. Of course the 3" of ice on the streets made it easier. OB Food: I roasted a pork tenderloin and it took a lot longer than I expected. It was 1.82 lbs. and over an hour at 400F to cook. By the time it was done I'd lost my appetite so I'll have some today. I skipped the rosemary which I normally use. Lots of garlic, pepper, a little bit of salt and I sprinkled some Penzey's Singapore seasoning blend on it. It smelled like heaven when I took it out of the oven. Jill |
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DJS0302 wrote:
> Had to spend Christmas Day with my sister, whom I don't like; her husband, whom > I don't like; and their cats that I'm allergic to. Why? Was there nobody else who liked you enough to invite you or no one else you did like enough to invite to your place? |
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God spare me from people who don't want to be with me and come anyway. Just
come in, drop off the presents and bow gracefully out. :-) Better yet, mail them. Henrietta |
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In article >, djs0302
@aol.comnospam says... > Had to spend Christmas Day with my sister, whom I don't like; her husband, whom > I don't like; and their cats that I'm allergic to. > This begs the question of why you accepted the invitation if you don't like them. |
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we had pork loin too, Jill. I cook it at 325, so it did take longer.
Made scalloped potatoes with it, a little cranberry sauce, green beans. Apple pie for dessert. It was great. No sis. In fact, not even a card from her this year, which is fine by me. |
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The first thing I did Xmas morn was to turn on the TV. It was a music video
of a bunch of cats singing "White Christmas". Things went downhill from then on. Farmer John |
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>You have to learn to say NO. Unless you are underage, no on can make you
>spend time with others you don't like. Well all the other relatives were there to so I almost had to go. |
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DJS0302 wrote:
>> You have to learn to say NO. Unless you are underage, no on can >> make you spend time with others you don't like. > > Well all the other relatives were there to so I almost had to go. That's just silly. Say politely, "No thank you, I appreciate the invitation but I have other plans." Jill |
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DJS0302 wrote:
>> You have to learn to say NO. Unless you are underage, no on can >> make you spend time with others you don't like. > > Well all the other relatives were there to so I almost had to go. That's just silly. Say politely, "No thank you, I appreciate the invitation but I have other plans." Jill |
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote: > > ospam (DJS0302) wrote: > > > >> Had to spend Christmas Day with my sister, whom I don't like; her > >> husband, > >> whom > >> I don't like; and their cats that I'm allergic to. > > You have to learn to say NO. Unless you are underage, no on can make you > spend time with others you don't like. Yup...life is too short to waste time with unpleasant people, especially family members. I don't get the concept of having to put up with rude or unpleasant people "even" if they are family members. Those that say you *must* spend xmas or whatever with family come what may are simply self - flagellating fools, gluttons for punishment. Of course they can then make a big deal out of being the poor widdle victim and they can whine and groan here on Usenet or wherever. Such people need to grow a backbone and *grow* up. It's passive - aggressive and immature *in the extreme* to set one's self up for a bad time and then sail onto a public forum and carry on about it (IIRC one person here who wouldn't shut up and stop trolling about their "evil" stepmother...it was entertaining in a sad kind of way. Makes one wonder who is more "evil": the stepmom or the person who insists on blathering on about such private matters in public... :-). And having to talk about "the need to vent" on a Usenet group such very private personal matters is simply just schoolgirl silliness... -- Best Greg |
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jmcquown wrote: > > Well all the other relatives were there to so I almost had to go. > > That's just silly. Say politely, "No thank you, I appreciate the invitation > but I have other plans." You can always lie. I did my family duty and went to Christmas dinner at my brother's because my mother's health is not good and this may be her last Christmas. So I got to spend the evening with a clinically depressed brother, his dullard wife and socially retarded 31 year old son. I am grateful that my wife came along and indulged my family. My other two brothers would not go because they despise the host and hostess. I didn't want to hurt his feelings. I had my son come down to join us. When my mother is no longer around for Christmas I will be making excuses. It's a special time of year and I really hate spending it with the depressed family when I could be having a better time with other family members, even in-laws. |
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On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 13:52:16 -0500, Dave Smith >
wrote: >You can always lie. I did my family duty and went to Christmas dinner at my >brother's because my mother's health is not good and this may be her last >Christmas. So I got to spend the evening with a clinically depressed brother, >his dullard wife and socially retarded 31 year old son. I am grateful that my >wife came along and indulged my family. My other two brothers would not go >because they despise the host and hostess. I didn't want to hurt his feelings. >I had my son come down to join us. When my mother is no longer around for >Christmas I will be making excuses. It's a special time of year and I really >hate spending it with the depressed family when I could be having a better time >with other family members, even in-laws. Amen. Our family started to fall apart when my mom passed. Once Dad was gone, the three of us kids have never spent a single holiday together. It really isn't any loss, because we have nothing in common except that we were all born to the same couple. My brother is a hopeless alcoholic, and my sister is in denial about her schizophrenia and refuses to take her meds. It would be a wonderful day, wouldn't it? I do miss being with family for the holidays, but I don't miss the people I'd be stuck with if we did it now. There is someone in RFC who has agreed to let us adopt her for the holidays. It'll cut way back on the loneliness for all three of us, and she's a much better cook than I am. <G> There are always ways to work around lousy relationships, but I agree that you're doing the right thing by spending the holidays with your mother. You'd really regret it if you didn't. Little Orphan Carol -- "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say, 'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_ |
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Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
> I do miss being with family for the holidays, but I don't miss the people > I'd be stuck with if we did it now. There is someone in RFC who has agreed > to let us adopt her for the holidays. It'll cut way back on the loneliness > for all three of us, and she's a much better cook than I am. <G> I miss some of my nieces and nephews this year. We used to get together on Boxing Day. The problem was it seems to be an all or nothing affair. I am not allowed to invite only those I like. My late brother in law's kids (all in their 30's now) are great, happily married to nice people and have nice kids. But if I have them I have to invite the sister in law's kids. I get along well with her son, but cannot stand her daughter and will not have her in the house. I ranted about her and her enormous appetite last year). Then there is the late BIL's ex wife who still considers herself part of the family. If she comes, one of her sons will not, nor will the other SIL or her husband. My family is equally dysfunctional. The brother who hosted us this year is the outcast. My other two brothers can't stand to be around him and his wife. Last year we had the depressed brother and his family here for a pre Christmas dinner, and then we went to another brother's house for the big one. > There are always ways to work around lousy relationships, but I agree that > you're doing the right thing by spending the holidays with your mother. > You'd really regret it if you didn't. I know I would regret it. That's why my son rearranged his schedule and made the 500 mile trip to be with his grandmother. He had wanted us to come up to visit him and his girlfriend for Christmas this year. It would have been fun. But right now I am wondering if my mother is going to make it through this one. We had her up for dinner on Christmas Eve, then took her over to my brother's for a party. Yesterday we had to pick her up and take her to the other brother's for dinner. She won't take her water pills if she has to go anywhere, so when I nailed her about her congestion, bags under her eyes and general puffy appearance. She had a heart problem last January because she hadn't been taking them, ended up in the hospital for two weeks and then we had to look after her 24/7 for more than a month. I am supposed to take her to visit a friend over the holidays and my Christmas present for her is a dinner out. I can't do either until she does something about her fluid level. |
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>Damsel writes:
> >>Dave Smith wrote: > >>You can always lie. I did my family duty and went to Christmas dinner at my >>brother's because my mother's health is not good and this may be her last >>Christmas. So I got to spend the evening with a clinically depressed >brother, >>his dullard wife and socially retarded 31 year old son. I am grateful that >my >>wife came along and indulged my family. My other two brothers would not go >>because they despise the host and hostess. I didn't want to hurt his >feelings. >>I had my son come down to join us. When my mother is no longer around for >>Christmas I will be making excuses. It's a special time of year and I >really >>hate spending it with the depressed family when I could be having a better >time >>with other family members, even in-laws. Before slashing at family take a good hard look in your own mirror... and slashing at your family doesn't make you whole. The entire concept of the holiday season is totally wasted on you. >Amen. Our family started to fall apart when my mom passed. Once Dad was >gone, the three of us kids have never spent a single holiday together. It >really isn't any loss, because we have nothing in common except that we >were all born to the same couple. My brother is a hopeless alcoholic, and >my sister is in denial about her schizophrenia and refuses to take her >meds. It would be a wonderful day, wouldn't it? > >I do miss being with family for the holidays, but I don't miss the people >I'd be stuck with if we did it now. There is someone in RFC who has agreed >to let us adopt her for the holidays. It'll cut way back on the loneliness >for all three of us, and she's a much better cook than I am. <G> > >There are always ways to work around lousy relationships, but I agree that >you're doing the right thing by spending the holidays with your mother. >You'd really regret it if you didn't. > >Little Orphan Carol >-- >"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say, >'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.' >Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." Pleasant... hmmm... My mother always said if you haven't anything good to say about the people you break bread with then keep your [****ing] trap shut or eat alone. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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PENMART01 wrote: > >Damsel writes: > > > >>Dave Smith wrote: > > > >>You can always lie. I did my family duty and went to Christmas dinner at my > >>brother's because my mother's health is not good and this may be her last > >>Christmas. So I got to spend the evening with a clinically depressed > >brother, > >>his dullard wife and socially retarded 31 year old son. I am grateful that > >my > >>wife came along and indulged my family. My other two brothers would not go > >>because they despise the host and hostess. I didn't want to hurt his > >feelings. > >>I had my son come down to join us. When my mother is no longer around for > >>Christmas I will be making excuses. It's a special time of year and I > >really > >>hate spending it with the depressed family when I could be having a better > >time > >>with other family members, even in-laws. > > Before slashing at family take a good hard look in your own mirror... and > slashing at your family doesn't make you whole. The entire concept of the > holiday season is totally wasted on you. > > > >Amen. Our family started to fall apart when my mom passed. Once Dad was > >gone, the three of us kids have never spent a single holiday together. It > >really isn't any loss, because we have nothing in common except that we > >were all born to the same couple. My brother is a hopeless alcoholic, and > >my sister is in denial about her schizophrenia and refuses to take her > >meds. It would be a wonderful day, wouldn't it? > > > >I do miss being with family for the holidays, but I don't miss the people > >I'd be stuck with if we did it now. There is someone in RFC who has agreed > >to let us adopt her for the holidays. It'll cut way back on the loneliness > >for all three of us, and she's a much better cook than I am. <G> > > > >There are always ways to work around lousy relationships, but I agree that > >you're doing the right thing by spending the holidays with your mother. > >You'd really regret it if you didn't. > > > >Little Orphan Carol > >-- > >"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say, > >'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.' > >Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." > > Pleasant... hmmm... > > My mother always said if you haven't anything good to say about the people you > break bread with then keep your [****ing] trap shut or eat alone. > Yup...couldn't agree more. If people are talking out of turn like this about such private matters on some dumb Usenet group then how must they act in *real life*...??? It's simply a cheap attention - getting device, nothing more. It gets real old reeeeeeal fast. Such folks should get off Usenet and seek some kind of professional help. -- Best Greg |
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>"Gregory Morrow" writes:
> >PENMART01 wrote: >> >Damsel writes: >> >>Dave Smith wrote: >> > >> >>You can always lie. I did my family duty and went to Christmas dinner at >my >> >>brother's >> >> Before slashing at family take a good hard look in your own mirror... and >> slashing at your family doesn't make you whole. The entire concept of the >> holiday season is totally wasted on you. >> >> >> >Amen. >> >My brother is a hopeless alcoholic, and my sister is in denial about her schizophrenia and refuses to take her >> >meds. >> >Little Orphan Carol >> >-- >> >"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say, >> >'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.' >> >Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." >> >> Pleasant... hmmm... >> >> >> My mother always said if you haven't anything good to say about the people you break bread with then keep your [****ing] trap shut or eat alone. > > > >Yup...couldn't agree more. If people are talking out of turn like this >about such private matters on some dumb Usenet group then how must they act >in *real life*...??? > >It's simply a cheap attention - getting device, nothing more. It gets real >old reeeeeeal fast. > >Such folks should get off Usenet and seek some kind of professional help. Especially sad when taking personal pot shots in public at those not present to defend themselves.... doesn't take much ciphering to imagine the story's obverse. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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PENMART01 wrote:
> > Especially sad when taking personal pot shots in public at those not present to > defend themselves.... doesn't take much ciphering to imagine the story's > obverse. > > > > > ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- > ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- > ********* > "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." > Sheldon > ```````````` My Grandmother always used to say, "well, you know one half of the story. Is that enough to judge by?" Sticks with me to this day. -- Steve It's not a good idea to squat while wearing spurs. |
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>Steve Calvin writes:
> >>PENMART01 wrote: >> >> Especially sad when taking personal pot shots in public at those not >present to >> defend themselves.... doesn't take much ciphering to imagine the story's >> obverse. > >My Grandmother always used to say, "well, you know one half of the >story. Is that enough to judge by?" > >Sticks with me to this day. Grandpa used to say "There's his side, her side, and the truth." ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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>Steve Calvin writes:
> >>PENMART01 wrote: >> >> Especially sad when taking personal pot shots in public at those not >present to >> defend themselves.... doesn't take much ciphering to imagine the story's >> obverse. > >My Grandmother always used to say, "well, you know one half of the >story. Is that enough to judge by?" > >Sticks with me to this day. Grandpa used to say "There's his side, her side, and the truth." ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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Dave Smith > wrote in
: > Then there is the late BIL's ex wife who still considers > herself part of the family. If she comes, one of her sons will > not, nor will the other SIL or her husband. Our family gatherings vary between 50 and 150 depending on how many age groups are allowed. I don't organize these as they are held in Montréal so less rather than more people have to travel two-three hours to get there, myself included. We have all kinds: exes, children of exes, widows and their current squeezes...they all come. And they are welcome. I can't think of any one who is not welcome. One of my ex-aunts passed away recently and there was a family remembrance in her memory, partly by e-mails and partly by those who gathered at a restaurant to remember her. The Gascon family is like the Cosa Nostra or the Catholic church. Once you join, you're a member for life :-) -- [...] remember when you're feeling very small and insecure, How amazingly unlikely is your birth And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space, 'Cause there's bugger all down 'ere on Earth! Monty Python's Universe Song |
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Dave Smith > wrote in
: > Then there is the late BIL's ex wife who still considers > herself part of the family. If she comes, one of her sons will > not, nor will the other SIL or her husband. Our family gatherings vary between 50 and 150 depending on how many age groups are allowed. I don't organize these as they are held in Montréal so less rather than more people have to travel two-three hours to get there, myself included. We have all kinds: exes, children of exes, widows and their current squeezes...they all come. And they are welcome. I can't think of any one who is not welcome. One of my ex-aunts passed away recently and there was a family remembrance in her memory, partly by e-mails and partly by those who gathered at a restaurant to remember her. The Gascon family is like the Cosa Nostra or the Catholic church. Once you join, you're a member for life :-) -- [...] remember when you're feeling very small and insecure, How amazingly unlikely is your birth And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space, 'Cause there's bugger all down 'ere on Earth! Monty Python's Universe Song |
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PENMART01 wrote:
>>Steve Calvin writes: >> >> >>>PENMART01 wrote: >>> >>>Especially sad when taking personal pot shots in public at those not >> >>present to >> >>>defend themselves.... doesn't take much ciphering to imagine the story's >>>obverse. >> >>My Grandmother always used to say, "well, you know one half of the >>story. Is that enough to judge by?" >> >>Sticks with me to this day. > > > Grandpa used to say "There's his side, her side, and the truth." > > > ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- > ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- > ********* > "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." > Sheldon > ```````````` I think that I may even like that one better! (Sorry Grandma) -- Steve It's not a good idea to squat while wearing spurs. |
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In article >, damsel-
says... > On 26 Dec 2004 18:05:26 GMT, ospam (DJS0302) wrote: > > >>You have to learn to say NO. Unless you are underage, no on can make you > >>spend time with others you don't like. > > > >Well all the other relatives were there to so I almost had to go. > > Duty calls, huh? Been there, done that. I think you did the right thing > by going, as long as you care for everyone else at the get together. > > It sucks that you've got two bad apples in the family. You *can* turn it > around in your head that you're visiting the people you love, and that the > others are just a necessary evil for now. If it weren't for the bad apples my family gatherings wouldn't have been any fun at all. My uncle was a loveable drunk, and a great uncle, well.. the stories were something else. You could only stand so much when it was only the immediate family and my grandfather who we'd nicknamed Saint Anthony. |
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"DJS0302" > wrote in message ... > Had to spend Christmas Day with my sister, whom I don't like; her husband, > whom > I don't like; and their cats that I'm allergic to. DJS, Did Sis put a gun to your head, or are you a minor and she is your legal guardian? There is no such critter as 'had to' spend the holidays with someone you don't like, otherwise.. unless perhaps you're in prison and 'have' to spend it with Bubba. heh |
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"DJS0302" > wrote in message ... > Had to spend Christmas Day with my sister, whom I don't like; her husband, > whom > I don't like; and their cats that I'm allergic to. DJS, Did Sis put a gun to your head, or are you a minor and she is your legal guardian? There is no such critter as 'had to' spend the holidays with someone you don't like, otherwise.. unless perhaps you're in prison and 'have' to spend it with Bubba. heh |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > DJS0302 wrote: >>> You have to learn to say NO. Unless you are underage, no on can >>> make you spend time with others you don't like. >> >> Well all the other relatives were there to so I almost had to go. > > That's just silly. Say politely, "No thank you, I appreciate the > invitation > but I have other plans." > > Jill Jill, Exactly right you are.. nobody puts a gun to these people's heads. They go because, much as they complain, they are getting some kind of payoff from it, or else they wouldn't do it... even if that payoff is merely someone else having a nice opinion of them. We live a mile from my MIL and stayed home for Christmas.. so yes, it can be done. lucy |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > DJS0302 wrote: >>> You have to learn to say NO. Unless you are underage, no on can >>> make you spend time with others you don't like. >> >> Well all the other relatives were there to so I almost had to go. > > That's just silly. Say politely, "No thank you, I appreciate the > invitation > but I have other plans." > > Jill Jill, Exactly right you are.. nobody puts a gun to these people's heads. They go because, much as they complain, they are getting some kind of payoff from it, or else they wouldn't do it... even if that payoff is merely someone else having a nice opinion of them. We live a mile from my MIL and stayed home for Christmas.. so yes, it can be done. lucy |
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