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One of my cook books, translated from English to Danish, is using the
unit "cups", which isn't a unit normally used in Denmark, and when it is
- it can apperantly mean different things from 1,5 to 2,5 dl. If all of
the measurements was in the unit, it wouldn't be a problem, as I could
just stick to the same unit all of the time, but it doesn't.

Quite frankly, I haven't got a cluse, as to how to find out what is meant
by "cup" here. I don't expect anyone in here to have "A vegetarian cook
book in six acts", so I can find out what the English version says, as I
know how much one of those cups are, but if I post one of the recipes
here, do you then think that maybe someone in here will have an idea as
to how much it might be? I know - it's a shot in the dark, but it's the
only idea I can come up with. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Nikitta
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On 12/29/2004 1:01 PM Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these
great (and sometimes not so great) words of knowledge:

> One of my cook books, translated from English to Danish, is using the
> unit "cups", which isn't a unit normally used in Denmark, and when it is
> - it can apperantly mean different things from 1,5 to 2,5 dl. If all of
> the measurements was in the unit, it wouldn't be a problem, as I could
> just stick to the same unit all of the time, but it doesn't.
>
> Quite frankly, I haven't got a cluse, as to how to find out what is meant
> by "cup" here. I don't expect anyone in here to have "A vegetarian cook
> book in six acts", so I can find out what the English version says, as I
> know how much one of those cups are, but if I post one of the recipes
> here, do you then think that maybe someone in here will have an idea as
> to how much it might be? I know - it's a shot in the dark, but it's the
> only idea I can come up with. Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Nikitta


A cup is USUALLY 8 oz. liquid capacity.

Hope this is what you are looking for.

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In article > ,
Ted Campanelli > wrote:

> On 12/29/2004 1:01 PM Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these
> great (and sometimes not so great) words of knowledge:
>
> > One of my cook books, translated from English to Danish, is using the
> > unit "cups", which isn't a unit normally used in Denmark, and when it is
> > - it can apperantly mean different things from 1,5 to 2,5 dl. If all of
> > the measurements was in the unit, it wouldn't be a problem, as I could
> > just stick to the same unit all of the time, but it doesn't.
> >
> > Quite frankly, I haven't got a cluse, as to how to find out what is meant
> > by "cup" here. I don't expect anyone in here to have "A vegetarian cook
> > book in six acts", so I can find out what the English version says, as I
> > know how much one of those cups are, but if I post one of the recipes
> > here, do you then think that maybe someone in here will have an idea as
> > to how much it might be? I know - it's a shot in the dark, but it's the
> > only idea I can come up with. Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Nikitta

>
> A cup is USUALLY 8 oz. liquid capacity.
>
> Hope this is what you are looking for.
>


Which translates to roughly 250 mls.
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Ted Campanelli > wrote in
m:

>> Quite frankly, I haven't got a cluse, as to how to find out what
>> is meant by "cup" here.
>>
>> Nikitta

>
> A cup is USUALLY 8 oz. liquid capacity.


Which is 227 ml., a more useful measurement in Denmark.

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"MEow" > wrote in message
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> One of my cook books, translated from English to Danish, is using the
> unit "cups", which isn't a unit normally used in Denmark, and when it is
> - it can apperantly mean different things from 1,5 to 2,5 dl. If all of
> the measurements was in the unit, it wouldn't be a problem, as I could
> just stick to the same unit all of the time, but it doesn't.
>
> Quite frankly, I haven't got a cluse, as to how to find out what is meant
> by "cup" here. I don't expect anyone in here to have "A vegetarian cook
> book in six acts", so I can find out what the English version says, as I
> know how much one of those cups are, but if I post one of the recipes
> here, do you then think that maybe someone in here will have an idea as
> to how much it might be? I know - it's a shot in the dark, but it's the
> only idea I can come up with. Any help would be appreciated.
>


Post away!

Vegetarian Cookbook in Six Acts, eh? Who's the author and publisher,
anyway?




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MEow wrote:

> One of my cook books, translated from English to Danish, is using the
> unit "cups", which isn't a unit normally used in Denmark, and when it is
> - it can apperantly mean different things from 1,5 to 2,5 dl. If all of
> the measurements was in the unit, it wouldn't be a problem, as I could
> just stick to the same unit all of the time, but it doesn't.


A cup is 8 oz, 250 ml. A lot of the measuring cups sold here in Canada are
"bilingual", with cups and ml.


You will probably run into Teaspoons and Tablespoons. A Teaspoon is roughly
equivalent to 5 ml, so A Tablespoon is 15 ml.
If it is an English cookbook, measurements for flour are often given in
pounds, but North American recipes are more likely to use cups for
measurement.



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The rec.food.cooking FAQ has English><metric conversions for weight and
volume measurements.
If you only need conversion table, see
http://vsack.bei.t-online.de/rfc_faq.html

But, I wanted to see the recipe you want to try.


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>Katra writes:
>
>>Ted Campanelli wrote:
>>>Nikitta wrote:
>>> One of my cook books, translated from English to Danish, is using the

unit "cups"
>>
>> A cup is USUALLY 8 oz. liquid capacity.

>
>Which translates to roughly 250 mls.


Um, Danes are into D cups... more like whole Liters! <G>


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"PENMART01" > wrote in message
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> >Katra writes:
>>
>>>Ted Campanelli wrote:
>>>>Nikitta wrote:
>>>> One of my cook books, translated from English to Danish, is using the

> unit "cups"
>>>
>>> A cup is USUALLY 8 oz. liquid capacity.

>>
>>Which translates to roughly 250 mls.

>
> Um, Danes are into D cups... more like whole Liters! <G>


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Dave Smith spoke thusly:

>> One of my cook books, translated from English to Danish, is using the
>> unit "cups", which isn't a unit normally used in Denmark, and when it
>> is - it can apperantly mean different things from 1,5 to 2,5 dl. If
>> all of the measurements was in the unit, it wouldn't be a problem, as
>> I could just stick to the same unit all of the time, but it doesn't.

>
> A cup is 8 oz, 250 ml. A lot of the measuring cups sold here in
> Canada are "bilingual", with cups and ml.
>

I know how much one of your cups are, but since it has been translade to
Danish, then maybe the unit has too, and it seems that in some Danish
recipe it can mean 250 ml, or 125 ml, and I don't know which it is, hence
my confusion.

Kind regards,
Nikitta.


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zuuum spoke thusly:

> Post away!
>

It's worth a try. I'll write X instead of cups because I'm not entirely
sure if it's English cups, or a completely different unit. I'll take one
which looks fairly simple to increase chances of someone knowing what unit
is needed.

> Vegetarian Cookbook in Six Acts, eh? Who's the author and publisher,
> anyway?
>

It's by Alice Laden & R.J Minney, and is based on what George Bernard Shaw
ate, as one of these people used to cook for him.

I must admit that I'm feeling kind of silly trying to translate this back
to English, from Danish, but here goes nothing:

Mushrooms au gratin

½ kg/ 1 pound mushrooms
1 small shredded onion
2 X's white sauce
1 X fullgraid wheat bread crumbs
1 Egg white, whipped stiff
½ X cream (the kind you can whip)

Preheat oven to 185C/350F. Wash and dry the mushrooms, slice them and saute
them lightly in a bit of butter. Add the schredded onion to the white
sauce. Grease and oven-proof dish and fill it with alternating layers of
mushrooms and crumbs. Pour a bit of the white sauce over. Add the rest of
the sauce to the stiffly whipped egg white and the cream. Pour that sauce
over the dish and sprinkle with a bit of crumbs. Bake for 20 minutes.

Does that sound like X could be one of your cups = 250 ml, or does it seem
wrong that way?

Kind regards,
Nikitta who hopes she didn't mess it up too much.
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MEow wrote:
>
> One of my cook books, translated from English to Danish, is using the
> unit "cups", which isn't a unit normally used in Denmark, and when it is
> - it can apperantly mean different things from 1,5 to 2,5 dl. If all of
> the measurements was in the unit, it wouldn't be a problem, as I could
> just stick to the same unit all of the time, but it doesn't.
>
> Quite frankly, I haven't got a cluse, as to how to find out what is meant
> by "cup" here. I don't expect anyone in here to have "A vegetarian cook
> book in six acts", so I can find out what the English version says, as I
> know how much one of those cups are, but if I post one of the recipes
> here, do you then think that maybe someone in here will have an idea as
> to how much it might be? I know - it's a shot in the dark, but it's the
> only idea I can come up with. Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Nikitta


The usual measure for a cooking 'cup' is 2.5 dl, 250 ml.
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There are a number of metric conversion tables on the Web. Here is one
good one.

http://www.sciencemadesimple.com/conversions.html

Here in the U.S., most measuring "cups" (both glass "Pyrex" and metal
measuring cups) have both American and metric printed, or embossed,
measurements on them. Look at your measuring cups, they might have
American/English measurements on them, too.

Regards, Nancree

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There are a number of metric conversion tables on the Web. Here is one
good one.

http://www.sciencemadesimple.com/conversions.html

Here in the U.S., most measuring "cups" (both glass "Pyrex" and metal
measuring cups) have both American and metric printed, or embossed,
measurements on them. Look at your measuring cups, they might have
American/English measurements on them, too.

Regards, Nancree

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Arri London spoke thusly:

> The usual measure for a cooking 'cup' is 2.5 dl, 250 ml.


That I do know, but it seems that I've completely failed to phrase my
question in a way to avoid all people reading it that way. Well, thanks for
trying - I'll try elsewhere.

Kind regards,
Nikitta.


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Arri London spoke thusly:

> The usual measure for a cooking 'cup' is 2.5 dl, 250 ml.


That I do know, but it seems that I've completely failed to phrase my
question in a way to avoid all people reading it that way. Well, thanks for
trying - I'll try elsewhere.

Kind regards,
Nikitta.
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MEow wrote:
>
> Arri London spoke thusly:
>
> > The usual measure for a cooking 'cup' is 2.5 dl, 250 ml.

>
> That I do know, but it seems that I've completely failed to phrase my
> question in a way to avoid all people reading it that way. Well, thanks for
> trying - I'll try elsewhere.
>
> Kind regards,
> Nikitta.



But your question has been answered. It's unusual for a something
specified as a cup in a recipe to be another measure. The exception
would be the older English 'teacup' measure which is less than 250 ml;
the recipe would have specified teacup rather than cup.
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MEow wrote:
>
> zuuum spoke thusly:
>
> > Post away!
> >

> It's worth a try. I'll write X instead of cups because I'm not entirely
> sure if it's English cups, or a completely different unit. I'll take one
> which looks fairly simple to increase chances of someone knowing what unit
> is needed.
>
> > Vegetarian Cookbook in Six Acts, eh? Who's the author and publisher,
> > anyway?
> >

> It's by Alice Laden & R.J Minney, and is based on what George Bernard Shaw
> ate, as one of these people used to cook for him.
>
> I must admit that I'm feeling kind of silly trying to translate this back
> to English, from Danish, but here goes nothing:
>
> Mushrooms au gratin
>
> ½ kg/ 1 pound mushrooms
> 1 small shredded onion
> 2 X's white sauce
> 1 X fullgraid wheat bread crumbs
> 1 Egg white, whipped stiff
> ½ X cream (the kind you can whip)
>
> Preheat oven to 185C/350F. Wash and dry the mushrooms, slice them and saute
> them lightly in a bit of butter. Add the schredded onion to the white
> sauce. Grease and oven-proof dish and fill it with alternating layers of
> mushrooms and crumbs. Pour a bit of the white sauce over. Add the rest of
> the sauce to the stiffly whipped egg white and the cream. Pour that sauce
> over the dish and sprinkle with a bit of crumbs. Bake for 20 minutes.
>
> Does that sound like X could be one of your cups = 250 ml, or does it seem
> wrong that way?
>
> Kind regards,
> Nikitta who hopes she didn't mess it up too much.


Seems perfectly rational to take the standard 250 ml measure. Any other
cup measure is more unusual and probably would be specifed.
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