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> Color is a biochemical process. Pink is meat without the proteins
> denatured. Once there is no more pink, all of the protein are > denatured and the heat energy must find the chemical reaction > with the next highest activation energy. Ok... but a steak isn't a fluid; heat isn't evenly distributed. While you're still busy denaturing proteins in the middle, you must be also binding connective fibers and making the meat tough on the outside, all at the same time (at least with a steak of any reasonable thickness). (Not being a food chemist, I'll take you word for it that that's what happens.) > In specific the binding of > connective fibers to make the meat tough. There is an amazing > lack of overlap of the two reactions. Why is that? This is what I don't get. It's not like losing the last of the local pink suddenly makes that meat a much more efficient conductor, passing the rest of the heat along to the middle where it's still needed. :-) Of course, this is only really of academic interest for me; I like a steak rare to medium-rare anyway (and not just because it gets tough when overcooked; it tastes better when more rare also, for me). > Chemistry. Heat of activation. Heat tends to flow to the reaction > that has the lowest heat of activation. Heat tends to flow (in a solid) according to how good a conductor of heat that solid is. It doesn't depend on whether a low-activation reation is waiting to the left rather than to the right. :-) -C |
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Chris De Young wrote:
> Doug Freyburger wrote: > > > Color is a biochemical process. Pink is meat without the proteins > > denatured. Once there is no more pink, all of the protein are > > denatured and the heat energy must find the chemical reaction > > with the next highest activation energy. > > Ok... but a steak isn't a fluid; heat isn't evenly distributed. While > you're still busy denaturing proteins in the middle, you must be also > binding connective fibers and making the meat tough on the outside, all at > the same time Correct. That's why thinly sliced beef like in a Philly Cheese Steak is easy to get tender and well done, why a steak the thickness of my hand can only be pulled off by one cook in a hundred, and why a roast is out of the question unless you're willing to cook that roast past the point of tough until it falls off the bone. > (at least with a steak of any reasonable thickness). (Not > being a food chemist, I'll take you word for it that that's what happens.) The thicker the steak the harder to pull it off. Get a steak as thick as a filet minion and forget it. Not enough time for the heat to flow into the middle. > > There is an amazing lack of overlap of the two reactions. > > Why is that? This is what I don't get. It's not like losing the last of > the local pink suddenly makes that meat a much more efficient > conductor, passing the rest of the heat along to the middle where > it's still needed. :-) A steak while cooking will conduct enough that a perfectly tender well done steak is possible so long as you use a steak no thicker than my hand and you have a cook capable of knowing which one second period it will start getting tough. > Of course, this is only really of academic interest for me; I like > a steak rare to medium-rare anyway (and not just because it > gets tough when overcooked; it tastes better when more rare > also, for me). I like the flavor of a well done steak better when I think it is possible. As a result I order my steaks medium in any restaurant I've been to under a dozen times until I know who the cook on duty is. I am well aware that it is impossible to the vast majority of cooks including myself. > > Chemistry. Heat of activation. Heat tends to flow to the reaction > > that has the lowest heat of activation. > > Heat tends to flow (in a solid) according to how good a conductor > of heat that solid is. It doesn't depend on whether a low-activation > reation is waiting to the left rather than to the right. :-) Heat tends to flow from the source of heat to the point of lowest temperature. To the extent allowed by conductivity it does not flow in every direction. Any cooking process that is exothermic will consume heat and tend to draw heat to the point of reaction to the extent allowed by conduction. This is why it is easy to cook tender thinly sliced well done beef, very hard to cook a steak, impossible to do it with a solid chunk. |
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