I adore those great big Fordhook lima beans. Mom made them (when she
finally discovered frozen veggies heheh) for us as teens. I'm mad for them
and have been from the first time I tried one.

My parents moved away 20 years ago. I was chatting with Mom the other day
and she asked what I made for dinner. I told her about the pork steaks
which were accompanied by a good serving of those Fordhook limas. She said,
"Oh, I don't like those." But, but, Mom! You bought them all the time, and
you ate them! She replied, "I know, but I didn't like them at all." Huh.
What was it, a State Secret? Took all these years for me to learn that
about her.

I can't figure out why she didn't just make a small helping of something she
*does* like for herself. We were teens; we would have understood some
things you just don't care for. And no, it wasn't because she couldn't
afford to buy an extra veggie to serve to herself. She and Dad love beets
and knowing we didn't care for them she'd steam some broccoli (for example)
when they wanted beets, just so we'd have a veggie we liked. But she didn't
do that for herself; go figure.

Have you uncovered things about your parents eating habits you simply never
knew about?

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> I adore those great big Fordhook lima beans. Mom made them (when she
> finally discovered frozen veggies heheh) for us as teens. I'm mad for
them
> and have been from the first time I tried one.
>
> My parents moved away 20 years ago. I was chatting with Mom the other day
> and she asked what I made for dinner. I told her about the pork steaks
> which were accompanied by a good serving of those Fordhook limas. She
said,
> "Oh, I don't like those." But, but, Mom! You bought them all the time,
and
> you ate them! She replied, "I know, but I didn't like them at all." Huh.
> What was it, a State Secret? Took all these years for me to learn that
> about her.
>
> I can't figure out why she didn't just make a small helping of something
she
> *does* like for herself. We were teens; we would have understood some
> things you just don't care for. And no, it wasn't because she couldn't
> afford to buy an extra veggie to serve to herself. She and Dad love beets
> and knowing we didn't care for them she'd steam some broccoli (for
example)
> when they wanted beets, just so we'd have a veggie we liked. But she
didn't
> do that for herself; go figure.
>
> Have you uncovered things about your parents eating habits you simply
never
> knew about?
>
> Jill

Not sure if this qualifies, but my mother loves walnuts. When she was
pregnant with me that was her biggest craving. Now I am a 'nut' freak - any
and all nuts - with the exception of walnuts. I cannot stand them and can
taste them immediately if they're in baking or cooking. Weird........

Elaine

On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 13:51:27 -0600, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

> My parents moved away 20 years ago. I was chatting with Mom the other day
> and she asked what I made for dinner. I told her about the pork steaks
> which were accompanied by a good serving of those Fordhook limas. She said,
> "Oh, I don't like those." But, but, Mom! You bought them all the time, and
> you ate them! She replied, "I know, but I didn't like them at all." Huh.
> What was it, a State Secret? Took all these years for me to learn that
> about her.
>
> I can't figure out why she didn't just make a small helping of something she
> *does* like for herself. We were teens; we would have understood some
> things you just don't care for. And no, it wasn't because she couldn't
> afford to buy an extra veggie to serve to herself. She and Dad love beets
> and knowing we didn't care for them she'd steam some broccoli (for example)
> when they wanted beets, just so we'd have a veggie we liked. But she didn't
> do that for herself; go figure.
>
I'm wondering why she bought them in the first place? Did
she make them for your father? I can't imagine teenagers
coming home and demanding lima beans for dinner, especially
if they've never tasted them.

Personally, I don't like big limas - but the small ones are
okay and I really do like succotash.

> Have you uncovered things about your parents eating habits you simply never
> knew about?

No.

sf

sf wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 13:51:27 -0600, "jmcquown"
> > wrote:
>
>> Fordhook limas. She said, "Oh, I don't like those." But, but,
>> Mom! You bought them all the time, and you ate them! She replied,
>> "I know, but I didn't like them at all." Huh. What was it, a State
>> Secret? Took all these years for me to learn that about her.
>>
> I'm wondering why she bought them in the first place? Did
> she make them for your father?

I don't think he'd ever had that particular type before she brought them
home that first time. I'd have to ask her, but she probably simply spotted
this new thing in stock at the [military] commissary and decided to give
them a try.

I can't imagine teenagers
> coming home and demanding lima beans for dinner, especially
> if they've never tasted them.

We'd tasted the baby limas from cans. With those I was like, oh, okay.
They weren't great but I'd never come home and request them. Then she
started discovering frozen veggies (this was in the 1970's) and, and least
to me, I found them much better than before! Mom wasn't big on using fresh
veggies as a side dish (except perhaps baked potatoes).

> Personally, I don't like big limas - but the small ones are
> okay and I really do like succotash.
>
I don't recall her ever buying frozen baby limas, but I know they were
available. <shrug>

Jill

>> Have you uncovered things about your parents eating habits you
>> simply never knew about?
>
> No.
>
> sf

sf wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 13:51:27 -0600, "jmcquown"
> > wrote:
>
>> Fordhook limas. She said, "Oh, I don't like those." But, but,
>> Mom! You bought them all the time, and you ate them! She replied,
>> "I know, but I didn't like them at all." Huh. What was it, a State
>> Secret? Took all these years for me to learn that about her.
>>
> I'm wondering why she bought them in the first place? Did
> she make them for your father?

I don't think he'd ever had that particular type before she brought them
home that first time. I'd have to ask her, but she probably simply spotted
this new thing in stock at the [military] commissary and decided to give
them a try.

I can't imagine teenagers
> coming home and demanding lima beans for dinner, especially
> if they've never tasted them.

We'd tasted the baby limas from cans. With those I was like, oh, okay.
They weren't great but I'd never come home and request them. Then she
started discovering frozen veggies (this was in the 1970's) and, and least
to me, I found them much better than before! Mom wasn't big on using fresh
veggies as a side dish (except perhaps baked potatoes).

> Personally, I don't like big limas - but the small ones are
> okay and I really do like succotash.
>
I don't recall her ever buying frozen baby limas, but I know they were
available. <shrug>

Jill

>> Have you uncovered things about your parents eating habits you
>> simply never knew about?
>
> No.
>
> sf

On Sat 08 Jan 2005 01:51:14p, jmcquown tittered and giggled, and giggled
and tittered, and finally blurted out...

> sf wrote:
>> On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 13:51:27 -0600, "jmcquown"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Fordhook limas. She said, "Oh, I don't like those." But, but,
>>> Mom! You bought them all the time, and you ate them! She replied,
>>> "I know, but I didn't like them at all." Huh. What was it, a State
>>> Secret? Took all these years for me to learn that about her.
>>>
>> I'm wondering why she bought them in the first place? Did she make
>> them for your father?
>
> I don't think he'd ever had that particular type before she brought them
> home that first time. I'd have to ask her, but she probably simply
> spotted this new thing in stock at the [military] commissary and decided
> to give them a try.
>
> I can't imagine teenagers
>> coming home and demanding lima beans for dinner, especially if they've
>> never tasted them.
>
> We'd tasted the baby limas from cans. With those I was like, oh, okay.
> They weren't great but I'd never come home and request them. Then she
> started discovering frozen veggies (this was in the 1970's) and, and
> least to me, I found them much better than before! Mom wasn't big on
> using fresh veggies as a side dish (except perhaps baked potatoes).
>
>> Personally, I don't like big limas - but the small ones are
>> okay and I really do like succotash.
>>
> I don't recall her ever buying frozen baby limas, but I know they were
> available. <shrug>
>
> Jill

I like the way forkhook's "pop" in the mouth when you bite into them.

Wayne

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sat 08 Jan 2005 01:51:14p, jmcquown tittered and giggled, and
> giggled and tittered, and finally blurted out...
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 13:51:27 -0600, "jmcquown"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Fordhook limas. She said, "Oh, I don't like those." But, but,
>>>> Mom! You bought them all the time, and you ate them!

>>> I'm wondering why she bought them in the first place? Did she make
>>> them for your father?
>>
>> I don't think he'd ever had that particular type before she brought
>> them home that first time.
>>> Personally, I don't like big limas - but the small ones are
>>> okay and I really do like succotash.
>>>
>> I don't recall her ever buying frozen baby limas, but I know they
>> were available. <shrug>
>>
>> Jill
>
> I like the way forkhook's "pop" in the mouth when you bite into them.
>
> Wayne

Wayne, that's exactly what I love about Fordhooks! They are more... I think
"substantial" is the word I'm looking for.

Jill

On Sat 08 Jan 2005 02:18:30p, jmcquown tittered and giggled, and giggled
and tittered, and finally blurted out...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Sat 08 Jan 2005 01:51:14p, jmcquown tittered and giggled, and
>> giggled and tittered, and finally blurted out...
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 13:51:27 -0600, "jmcquown"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Fordhook limas. She said, "Oh, I don't like those." But, but,
>>>>> Mom! You bought them all the time, and you ate them!
>
>>>> I'm wondering why she bought them in the first place? Did she make
>>>> them for your father?
>>>
>>> I don't think he'd ever had that particular type before she brought
>>> them home that first time.
>>>> Personally, I don't like big limas - but the small ones are
>>>> okay and I really do like succotash.
>>>>
>>> I don't recall her ever buying frozen baby limas, but I know they
>>> were available. <shrug>
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> I like the way forkhook's "pop" in the mouth when you bite into them.
>>
>> Wayne
>
> Wayne, that's exactly what I love about Fordhooks! They are more... I
> think "substantial" is the word I'm looking for.
>
> Jill

Yes, that's a good word for them, Jill. I like either fresh or frozen baby
limas when I make succotash, but to eat on their own I really prefer the
fordhooks. Mom always served homemade chili sauce on the side, and I'd
usually put a teaspoon or two on top of the fordhooks. Now, mostly I just
eat them buttered and sometimes add a bit of savory.

Wayne

jmcquown wrote:

> "Oh, I don't like those." But, but, Mom! You bought them all the
> time, and you ate them! She replied, "I know, but I didn't like them
> at all."

Many parents are guilty of doing this. We can not expect our children
to eat foods that we do not eat. When you are a parent, you put the food
on your plate and you eat it, or you hide it under your mashed potatoes
when the kids are not looking.

My mother did this and so did I. I wanted my children to try everything,
I did not want my own likes/dislikes to prejudice them.

Becca

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> I adore those great big Fordhook lima beans. Mom made them (when she
> finally discovered frozen veggies heheh) for us as teens. I'm mad for
them
> and have been from the first time I tried one.
>
> My parents moved away 20 years ago. I was chatting with Mom the other day
> and she asked what I made for dinner. I told her about the pork steaks
> which were accompanied by a good serving of those Fordhook limas. She
said,
> "Oh, I don't like those." But, but, Mom! You bought them all the time,
and
> you ate them! She replied, "I know, but I didn't like them at all." Huh.
> What was it, a State Secret? Took all these years for me to learn that
> about her.
>
> I can't figure out why she didn't just make a small helping of something
she
> *does* like for herself. We were teens; we would have understood some
> things you just don't care for. And no, it wasn't because she couldn't
> afford to buy an extra veggie to serve to herself. She and Dad love beets
> and knowing we didn't care for them she'd steam some broccoli (for
example)
> when they wanted beets, just so we'd have a veggie we liked. But she
didn't
> do that for herself; go figure.
>
> Have you uncovered things about your parents eating habits you simply
never
> knew about?
>
> Jill
>

Hey Jill, how's things?
I don't know if this is the same thing, but it's similar enough...
When I was a kid, my dad would occasionally (say, once a week) bring my mom
home this candy that was a mint marshmallow interior covered in chocolate. I
always thought she liked them. Apparently so did Dad. Well, we were in a
store some months ago, and I saw the candy there. "Look Mom, your favorite
candy is here!" Laughing, she told me she "always hated those little
things"! I asked why Dad was always bringing them home for her, and she said
she didn't know how he got the idea that she liked them, but once he did, he
bought them for the next ten years. She always gave them to one of us kids
or to my Dad to eat! lol

kimberly

jmcquown wrote:
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>>
>>I like the way forkhook's "pop" in the mouth when you bite into them.
>>
>>Wayne
>
>
> Wayne, that's exactly what I love about Fordhooks! They are more... I think
> "substantial" is the word I'm looking for.
>
> Jill
>
>

For another point of view: lima beans are nasty little
starch pillows wrapped in an icky plastic-like coating.

Limas and liver are on my avoid-at-all-costs list.

gloria p

On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 15:18:30 -0600, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> Wayne, that's exactly what I love about Fordhooks! They are more... I think
> "substantial" is the word I'm looking for.
>
That's an interesting difference. I always associate
"mealy" with the big limas.

sf

Puester wrote:

> For another point of view: lima beans are nasty little
> starch pillows wrapped in an icky plastic-like coating.
>
> Limas and liver are on my avoid-at-all-costs list.
>
have you ever had them freshpicked? Like another animal all together.
Velvety green taste with a nutty afterglow.
blacksalt

On Sat 08 Jan 2005 09:56:41p, kalanamak tittered and giggled, and giggled and
tittered, and finally blurted out...

> Puester wrote:
>
>> For another point of view: lima beans are nasty little
>> starch pillows wrapped in an icky plastic-like coating.
>>
>> Limas and liver are on my avoid-at-all-costs list.
>>
> have you ever had them freshpicked? Like another animal all together.
> Velvety green taste with a nutty afterglow.
> blacksalt
>

Nice description!

Wayna

On Sat 08 Jan 2005 09:56:41p, kalanamak tittered and giggled, and giggled and
tittered, and finally blurted out...

> Puester wrote:
>
>> For another point of view: lima beans are nasty little
>> starch pillows wrapped in an icky plastic-like coating.
>>
>> Limas and liver are on my avoid-at-all-costs list.
>>
> have you ever had them freshpicked? Like another animal all together.
> Velvety green taste with a nutty afterglow.
> blacksalt
>

Nice description!

Wayna

jmcquown wrote:

>
> Have you uncovered things about your parents eating habits you
>simply never
> knew about?
>
> Jill

A long time ago my Mom told me they were so poor during the depression
that they sometimes ate onion and catsup sandwiches - sometimes only
catsup - and "were grateful we had them". We were poor growing up, but
never *that* poor. My Mom's gone now, but I honestly don't think there
is anything I don't know about her eating habits. I stole a bunch of
her recipes when we went through her stuff, after she passed. She
never did write out some of her "famous" recipes, and I'm still trying
to approximate them, three years later. Can't call her up anymore to
say "Hey - how do I do so-and-so?" :*(

-L.

blacksalt wrote (1/8/2005) as follows about lima beans:

>have you ever had them freshpicked? Like another animal all
>together. Velvety green taste with a nutty afterglow.

Have to agree. I remember the first time I had fresh limas.
Great stuff.

blacksalt wrote (1/8/2005) as follows about lima beans:

>have you ever had them freshpicked? Like another animal all
>together. Velvety green taste with a nutty afterglow.

Have to agree. I remember the first time I had fresh limas.
Great stuff.

Puester wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I like the way forkhook's "pop" in the mouth when you bite into
>>> them.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>
>>
>> Wayne, that's exactly what I love about Fordhooks! They are more...
>> I think "substantial" is the word I'm looking for.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>
>
> For another point of view: lima beans are nasty little
> starch pillows wrapped in an icky plastic-like coating.
>
> Limas and liver are on my avoid-at-all-costs list.
>
> gloria p

I'm with you on the liver! I'll take your helping of limas

Jill

Puester wrote:

>
> For another point of view: lima beans are nasty little
> starch pillows wrapped in an icky plastic-like coating.
>
> Limas and liver are on my avoid-at-all-costs list.

You bang on about the lima beans. They have no redeeming qualities. I am not so
sure about the liver. My mother, who used to cook all meat until it was completely
cooked, served some nasty liver to me a few times. For me, it is the texture, not
the taste. I have heard from liver lovers that if properly cooked it is pretty
tasty. I will take their word for that. No liver and bacon or onion for me thanks,
but I have had it served to me a few times (no options for other real food) cooked
and served with a gravy, and it was quite good. In fact, I had seconds. I love
liverwurst and liver pate, but still am not a fan of fried liver.

Puester wrote:

>
> For another point of view: lima beans are nasty little
> starch pillows wrapped in an icky plastic-like coating.
>
> Limas and liver are on my avoid-at-all-costs list.

You bang on about the lima beans. They have no redeeming qualities. I am not so
sure about the liver. My mother, who used to cook all meat until it was completely
cooked, served some nasty liver to me a few times. For me, it is the texture, not
the taste. I have heard from liver lovers that if properly cooked it is pretty
tasty. I will take their word for that. No liver and bacon or onion for me thanks,
but I have had it served to me a few times (no options for other real food) cooked
and served with a gravy, and it was quite good. In fact, I had seconds. I love
liverwurst and liver pate, but still am not a fan of fried liver.

kalanamak wrote:
> Puester wrote:
>
>
>>For another point of view: lima beans are nasty little
>>starch pillows wrapped in an icky plastic-like coating.
>>
>>Limas and liver are on my avoid-at-all-costs list.
>>
>
> have you ever had them freshpicked? Like another animal all together.
> Velvety green taste with a nutty afterglow.
> blacksalt


I believe you but I've never lived where they are grown,
either commercially or by hobby gardeners.

gloria p

kalanamak wrote:
> Puester wrote:
>
>
>>For another point of view: lima beans are nasty little
>>starch pillows wrapped in an icky plastic-like coating.
>>
>>Limas and liver are on my avoid-at-all-costs list.
>>
>
> have you ever had them freshpicked? Like another animal all together.
> Velvety green taste with a nutty afterglow.
> blacksalt


I believe you but I've never lived where they are grown,
either commercially or by hobby gardeners.

gloria p

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> You bang on about the lima beans. They have no redeeming qualities. I am
> not so
> sure about the liver. My mother, who used to cook all meat until it was
> completely
> cooked, served some nasty liver to me a few times. For me, it is the
> texture, not
> the taste. I have heard from liver lovers that if properly cooked it is
> pretty
> tasty. I will take their word for that. No liver and bacon or onion for me
> thanks,

Gawd, I could smell it coming out of the vents when it was on the menu at
the
corporate complex where I worked. Good morning to me (gag).

nancy

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> You bang on about the lima beans. They have no redeeming qualities. I am
> not so
> sure about the liver. My mother, who used to cook all meat until it was
> completely
> cooked, served some nasty liver to me a few times. For me, it is the
> texture, not
> the taste. I have heard from liver lovers that if properly cooked it is
> pretty
> tasty. I will take their word for that. No liver and bacon or onion for me
> thanks,

Gawd, I could smell it coming out of the vents when it was on the menu at
the
corporate complex where I worked. Good morning to me (gag).

nancy

I find they taste worst when they're badly cooked. For frozen,
that means cooked without water and not long enough.
If you follow package directions on the frozen ones, they
taste better.

I like them, so I can't say if the change is enough to change
from bad to good.

Greg Zywicki

I find they taste worst when they're badly cooked. For frozen,
that means cooked without water and not long enough.
If you follow package directions on the frozen ones, they
taste better.

I like them, so I can't say if the change is enough to change
from bad to good.

Greg Zywicki

Zywicki wrote:

> I like them, so I can't say if the change is enough to change
> from bad to good.
>
> Greg Zywicki

My mother used to simmer them in milk with a pat of butter in it, in the
oven in a covered casserole. I could eat them that way.
blacksalt

"elaine" > wrote in message
...
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I adore those great big Fordhook lima beans. Mom made them (when she
>> finally discovered frozen veggies heheh) for us as teens. I'm mad for
> them
>> and have been from the first time I tried one.
>>
>> My parents moved away 20 years ago. I was chatting with Mom the other
>> day
>> and she asked what I made for dinner. I told her about the pork steaks
>> which were accompanied by a good serving of those Fordhook limas. She
> said,
>> "Oh, I don't like those." But, but, Mom! You bought them all the time,
> and
>> you ate them!
<snip>
>> Jill
>
> Not sure if this qualifies, but my mother loves walnuts. When she was
> pregnant with me that was her biggest craving. Now I am a 'nut' freak -
> any
> and all nuts - with the exception of walnuts. I cannot stand them and can
> taste them immediately if they're in baking or cooking. Weird........
>
> Elaine
> =============

No. Not weird at all... I ate tons of potatoes when preggers with Nathan.
He can't stand them. He isn't even crazy about fries (as in, most children
like them...).

The other night we went out to Hops for dinner and Nathan asked our server
what his side choices were... he lit up when she mentioned rice...! Then he
was so bummed when she brought out fries. Poor little guy. Once we could
tear ourselves away from our steaks and noticed his fries we mentioned it to
the waitress and she rustled up the rice rather quickly and apologized to
him. He was quite pleased that our server treated him like a (?) young man
and not an infant. He's five going on 35! LOL

Cyndi