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what's the deal with lemon pepper? is this just a mixture
of some lemon stuff and some pepper? or is there a vegetable called a lemon pepper? |
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![]() > wrote in message om... > what's the deal with lemon pepper? is this just a mixture > of some lemon stuff and some pepper? or is there a > vegetable called a lemon pepper? lol.... |
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![]() > wrote in message om... > what's the deal with lemon pepper? is this just a mixture > of some lemon stuff and some pepper? or is there a > vegetable called a lemon pepper? Not a vegetable but actually a fruit, the lemon pepper grows in Zanzibar and there is an annual Lemon Pepper Festival at harvest time, in August. Locally it is counted an aphrodisiac of considerable power, but many anthropologists aver that this is a tale made up by the local lads so that they can pretend to be in its uncontrollable grip and have their wicked way despite the (probably phony) squeals of protest coming from the lassies. Anyhow, if you make the trip at that time you're sure to have fun. |
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![]() > wrote in message om... > what's the deal with lemon pepper? is this just a mixture > of some lemon stuff and some pepper? or is there a > vegetable called a lemon pepper? Where have you been hiding? Lemon Pepper comes from the lemon pepper tree. Although it was originally cultivated in Asia Minor, Marco Polo brought back some cuttings from the tree to Italy along with the now famous spaghetti plants. About 100 years later there were fields of semolina spaghetti growing throughout the region simultaneously the lemon pepper trees had flourished in the moist climate of the boot and the harvests were growing as was the popularity of the lemon pepper spice. The little lemon pepper berries are usually allowed to ripen and dry right on the tree in the late summer. The tree beaters come along with very long sticks and pieces of cloth which they lay under the branches. They then hit the branches with the sticks so the berries fall off onto the cloth. In the very early years the berries were ground into a fine powder and inhaled into the nose much the same as snuff. They even had very ornate lemon pepper boxes for the powder. Unfortunately the buzz was so great that the powder became addictive. Legend has it that one day an Italian had too much wine and accidentally spilled some of the powder onto a piece of veal, and that was the birth of the use of the powder as a food flavoring agent. Dimitri |
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![]() "Anthony" > wrote in message ... > > > wrote in message > om... > > what's the deal with lemon pepper? is this just a mixture > > of some lemon stuff and some pepper? or is there a > > vegetable called a lemon pepper? > > Not a vegetable but actually a fruit, the lemon pepper grows in Zanzibar and > there is an annual Lemon Pepper Festival at harvest time, in August. > Locally it is counted an aphrodisiac of considerable power, but many > anthropologists aver that this is a tale made up by the local lads so that > they can pretend to be in its uncontrollable grip and have their wicked way > despite the (probably phony) squeals of protest coming from the lassies. > Anyhow, if you make the trip at that time you're sure to have fun. > And it's great with that small Italian town that grows its spaghetti on trees-or didn't you ever see that commercial? |
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![]() "Kswck" > wrote in message et... > > And it's great with that small Italian town that grows its spaghetti on > trees-or didn't you ever see that commercial? > Wasn't that an April 1 show on BBC, narrated by Richard Dimbleby? Damn funny anyway. |
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![]() > wrote in message om... > what's the deal with lemon pepper? is this just a mixture > of some lemon stuff and some pepper? or is there a > vegetable called a lemon pepper? Lemon Pepper is a spice blend of lemon peel, sometimes salt, and pepper. Lemon Peppers, also known as Lemon Drop Peppers are a pepper variety grown in Brazil. They actually have a lemon flavor to them, and they're quite hot. There's also a Lemon King hybrid pepper. kimberly |
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Dimitri wrote:
> > > wrote in message > om... >> what's the deal with lemon pepper? is this just a mixture >> of some lemon stuff and some pepper? or is there a >> vegetable called a lemon pepper? > > > Where have you been hiding? > > Lemon Pepper comes from the lemon pepper tree. Although it was originally > cultivated in Asia Minor, Marco Polo brought back some cuttings from the > tree to Italy along with the now famous spaghetti plants. > > About 100 years later there were fields of semolina spaghetti growing > throughout the region simultaneously the lemon pepper trees had flourished > in the moist climate of the boot and the harvests were growing as was the > popularity of the lemon pepper spice. > > The little lemon pepper berries are usually allowed to ripen and dry right > on the tree in the late summer. The tree beaters come along with very long > sticks and pieces of cloth which they lay under the branches. They then > hit the branches with the sticks so the berries fall off onto the cloth. > > In the very early years the berries were ground into a fine powder and > inhaled into the nose much the same as snuff. They even had very ornate > lemon pepper boxes for the powder. Unfortunately the buzz was so great > that the powder became addictive. > > Legend has it that one day an Italian had too much wine and accidentally > spilled some of the powder onto a piece of veal, and that was the birth of > the use of the powder as a food flavoring agent. > > Dimitri See? *This* is why it's good to have our friendly neighborhood Cultural Anthropologist hanging around here. Well done, Dimitri ---jkb -- "I drank what?" -- Socrates |
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John Gaughan wrote:
> > Dimitri wrote: > > Lemon Pepper comes from the lemon pepper tree. > > What about garlic salt? It's made for garlic slugs. blacksalt ObFood: Costco is getting some crates of lovely red grapefruit. EAsy to peel and sweet,sweet,sweet. |
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John Gaughan wrote:
> > Dimitri wrote: > > Lemon Pepper comes from the lemon pepper tree. > > What about garlic salt? It's made for garlic slugs. blacksalt ObFood: Costco is getting some crates of lovely red grapefruit. EAsy to peel and sweet,sweet,sweet. |
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Dimitri wrote:
> Lemon Pepper comes from the lemon pepper tree. What about garlic salt? ;-) -- John Gaughan http://www.johngaughan.net/ |
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Dimitri wrote:
> Lemon Pepper comes from the lemon pepper tree. What about garlic salt? ;-) -- John Gaughan http://www.johngaughan.net/ |
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:12:56 -0600, Katra wrote:
> Lemon pepper spice is the one thing I probably use the most of. ;-) Me too. I generally use McCormick's which I buy in large quantities when I visit the States. Doug |
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:12:56 -0600, Katra wrote:
> Lemon pepper spice is the one thing I probably use the most of. ;-) Me too. I generally use McCormick's which I buy in large quantities when I visit the States. Doug |
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![]() "Anthony" > wrote in message ... > > "Kswck" > wrote in message > et... > > > > And it's great with that small Italian town that grows its spaghetti on > > trees-or didn't you ever see that commercial? > > > Wasn't that an April 1 show on BBC, narrated by Richard Dimbleby? Damn > funny anyway. > > That's the one. |
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![]() "Anthony" > wrote in message ... > > "Kswck" > wrote in message > et... > > > > And it's great with that small Italian town that grows its spaghetti on > > trees-or didn't you ever see that commercial? > > > Wasn't that an April 1 show on BBC, narrated by Richard Dimbleby? Damn > funny anyway. > > That's the one. |
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![]() "Anthony" > wrote in message ... > > > wrote in message > om... > > what's the deal with lemon pepper? is this just a mixture > > of some lemon stuff and some pepper? or is there a > > vegetable called a lemon pepper? > > Not a vegetable but actually a fruit, the lemon pepper grows in Zanzibar and > there is an annual Lemon Pepper Festival at harvest time, in August. > Locally it is counted an aphrodisiac of considerable power, but many > anthropologists aver that this is a tale made up by the local lads so that > they can pretend to be in its uncontrollable grip and have their wicked way > despite the (probably phony) squeals of protest coming from the lassies. > Anyhow, if you make the trip at that time you're sure to have fun. > > ahahahaha...nicely done Jack Pepper de Citron |
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![]() "Anthony" > wrote in message ... > > > wrote in message > om... > > what's the deal with lemon pepper? is this just a mixture > > of some lemon stuff and some pepper? or is there a > > vegetable called a lemon pepper? > > Not a vegetable but actually a fruit, the lemon pepper grows in Zanzibar and > there is an annual Lemon Pepper Festival at harvest time, in August. > Locally it is counted an aphrodisiac of considerable power, but many > anthropologists aver that this is a tale made up by the local lads so that > they can pretend to be in its uncontrollable grip and have their wicked way > despite the (probably phony) squeals of protest coming from the lassies. > Anyhow, if you make the trip at that time you're sure to have fun. > > ahahahaha...nicely done Jack Pepper de Citron |
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Steve Wertz > wrote: > On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:12:56 -0600, Katra > > wrote: > > >My label says: > > > >Black pepper and other spices, Rice flour, Lemon powder, Garlic, Citric > >Acid, and Calcium stearate (a flow agent). > > Usually the citric acid outweighs the lemon flavoring. > > Lemme guess - Bolners Fiesta Brand? The rice flour gives it away. > > -sw Yes, Fiesta. :-) It's the only one that I've been able to find that makes a salt free one. If I wanted 50% salt, I'd add my own! K. -- Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... >,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,< http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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Steve Wertz > wrote: > On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:12:56 -0600, Katra > > wrote: > > >My label says: > > > >Black pepper and other spices, Rice flour, Lemon powder, Garlic, Citric > >Acid, and Calcium stearate (a flow agent). > > Usually the citric acid outweighs the lemon flavoring. > > Lemme guess - Bolners Fiesta Brand? The rice flour gives it away. > > -sw Yes, Fiesta. :-) It's the only one that I've been able to find that makes a salt free one. If I wanted 50% salt, I'd add my own! K. -- Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... >,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,< http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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Doug Weller > wrote: > On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:12:56 -0600, Katra wrote: > > > Lemon pepper spice is the one thing I probably use the most of. ;-) > > Me too. I generally use McCormick's which I buy in large quantities when I > visit the States. > > Doug Does McCormick make a salt free? I'd like to get away from some of the addititives.... K. -- Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... >,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,< http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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Doug Weller > wrote: > On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:12:56 -0600, Katra wrote: > > > Lemon pepper spice is the one thing I probably use the most of. ;-) > > Me too. I generally use McCormick's which I buy in large quantities when I > visit the States. > > Doug Does McCormick make a salt free? I'd like to get away from some of the addititives.... K. -- Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... >,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,< http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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Katra wrote:
> Yes, Fiesta. :-) > > It's the only one that I've been able to find that makes a salt free one. > > If I wanted 50% salt, I'd add my own! Is Mrs. Dash bad? nancy |
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Katra wrote:
> Yes, Fiesta. :-) > > It's the only one that I've been able to find that makes a salt free one. > > If I wanted 50% salt, I'd add my own! Is Mrs. Dash bad? nancy |
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Nancy Young > wrote: > Katra wrote: > > > Yes, Fiesta. :-) > > > > It's the only one that I've been able to find that makes a salt free one. > > > > If I wanted 50% salt, I'd add my own! > > Is Mrs. Dash bad? nancy It's not the same thing. At all. ;-) K. -- Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... >,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,< http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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Nancy Young > wrote: > Katra wrote: > > > Yes, Fiesta. :-) > > > > It's the only one that I've been able to find that makes a salt free one. > > > > If I wanted 50% salt, I'd add my own! > > Is Mrs. Dash bad? nancy It's not the same thing. At all. ;-) K. -- Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... >,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,< http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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This is true, however, the Plant Protection Quarantine division of the
USDA has banned the import of lemon peppers until further notice. This is due to the fact that they can carry a citrus canker, which currently destroys citrus crops in California and Florida. This is not the first ban, but this one is expected to last a long time. Technically, it is still legal to sell them if it can be proven they were imported before May 2002, and if they test negative for the canker. The USDA can seize pretty much whatever they want. Or is it Sichuan Peppercorns? Oh well.... Frank Dimitri wrote: > > wrote in message > om... > >>what's the deal with lemon pepper? is this just a mixture >>of some lemon stuff and some pepper? or is there a >>vegetable called a lemon pepper? > > > > Where have you been hiding? > > Lemon Pepper comes from the lemon pepper tree. Although it was originally > cultivated in Asia Minor, Marco Polo brought back some cuttings from the > tree to Italy along with the now famous spaghetti plants. > > About 100 years later there were fields of semolina spaghetti growing > throughout the region simultaneously the lemon pepper trees had flourished > in the moist climate of the boot and the harvests were growing as was the > popularity of the lemon pepper spice. > > The little lemon pepper berries are usually allowed to ripen and dry right > on the tree in the late summer. The tree beaters come along with very long > sticks and pieces of cloth which they lay under the branches. They then hit > the branches with the sticks so the berries fall off onto the cloth. > > In the very early years the berries were ground into a fine powder and > inhaled into the nose much the same as snuff. They even had very ornate > lemon pepper boxes for the powder. Unfortunately the buzz was so great that > the powder became addictive. > > Legend has it that one day an Italian had too much wine and accidentally > spilled some of the powder onto a piece of veal, and that was the birth of > the use of the powder as a food flavoring agent. > > Dimitri > > |
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This is true, however, the Plant Protection Quarantine division of the
USDA has banned the import of lemon peppers until further notice. This is due to the fact that they can carry a citrus canker, which currently destroys citrus crops in California and Florida. This is not the first ban, but this one is expected to last a long time. Technically, it is still legal to sell them if it can be proven they were imported before May 2002, and if they test negative for the canker. The USDA can seize pretty much whatever they want. Or is it Sichuan Peppercorns? Oh well.... Frank Dimitri wrote: > > wrote in message > om... > >>what's the deal with lemon pepper? is this just a mixture >>of some lemon stuff and some pepper? or is there a >>vegetable called a lemon pepper? > > > > Where have you been hiding? > > Lemon Pepper comes from the lemon pepper tree. Although it was originally > cultivated in Asia Minor, Marco Polo brought back some cuttings from the > tree to Italy along with the now famous spaghetti plants. > > About 100 years later there were fields of semolina spaghetti growing > throughout the region simultaneously the lemon pepper trees had flourished > in the moist climate of the boot and the harvests were growing as was the > popularity of the lemon pepper spice. > > The little lemon pepper berries are usually allowed to ripen and dry right > on the tree in the late summer. The tree beaters come along with very long > sticks and pieces of cloth which they lay under the branches. They then hit > the branches with the sticks so the berries fall off onto the cloth. > > In the very early years the berries were ground into a fine powder and > inhaled into the nose much the same as snuff. They even had very ornate > lemon pepper boxes for the powder. Unfortunately the buzz was so great that > the powder became addictive. > > Legend has it that one day an Italian had too much wine and accidentally > spilled some of the powder onto a piece of veal, and that was the birth of > the use of the powder as a food flavoring agent. > > Dimitri > > |
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![]() "Katra" > wrote in message ... > In article >, > Doug Weller > wrote: > > > On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:12:56 -0600, Katra wrote: > > > > > Lemon pepper spice is the one thing I probably use the most of. ;-) > > > > Me too. I generally use McCormick's which I buy in large quantities when I > > visit the States. > > > > Doug > > Does McCormick make a salt free? > I'd like to get away from some of the addititives.... > > K. Have you tried Penzey's Florida Seasoned Pepper? It's a citrus pepper (it has orange and lemon) and no salt. Here's the ingredients: Tellicherry black pepper, lemon peel, orange peel, citric acid, garlic, and onion. They do have lemon pepper, which I love, but it does have salt in it. On the other hand, it doesn't have alot of additives. kimberly > -- |
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![]() "Katra" > wrote in message ... > In article >, > Doug Weller > wrote: > > > On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:12:56 -0600, Katra wrote: > > > > > Lemon pepper spice is the one thing I probably use the most of. ;-) > > > > Me too. I generally use McCormick's which I buy in large quantities when I > > visit the States. > > > > Doug > > Does McCormick make a salt free? > I'd like to get away from some of the addititives.... > > K. Have you tried Penzey's Florida Seasoned Pepper? It's a citrus pepper (it has orange and lemon) and no salt. Here's the ingredients: Tellicherry black pepper, lemon peel, orange peel, citric acid, garlic, and onion. They do have lemon pepper, which I love, but it does have salt in it. On the other hand, it doesn't have alot of additives. kimberly > -- |
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In article <qh85c.15513$Nj.4619@fed1read01>, "Nexis" >
wrote: > "Katra" > wrote in message > ... > > In article >, > > Doug Weller > wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:12:56 -0600, Katra wrote: > > > > > > > Lemon pepper spice is the one thing I probably use the most of. ;-) > > > > > > Me too. I generally use McCormick's which I buy in large quantities when > I > > > visit the States. > > > > > > Doug > > > > Does McCormick make a salt free? > > I'd like to get away from some of the addititives.... > > > > K. > > > Have you tried Penzey's Florida Seasoned Pepper? It's a citrus pepper (it > has orange and lemon) and no salt. Here's the ingredients: > Tellicherry black pepper, lemon peel, orange peel, citric acid, garlic, and > onion. > They do have lemon pepper, which I love, but it does have salt in it. On the > other hand, it doesn't have alot of additives. > > kimberly > > > -- > > Thanks for the private e-mail, and yes, I am indeed a Penzey's newbie! <lol> Am looking forward to your suggestions, especially the mixed lemon/orange spice. Will visit their website when I have time to browse properly! :-) Do they take Paypal? K. -- Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... >,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,< http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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In article <qh85c.15513$Nj.4619@fed1read01>, "Nexis" >
wrote: > "Katra" > wrote in message > ... > > In article >, > > Doug Weller > wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:12:56 -0600, Katra wrote: > > > > > > > Lemon pepper spice is the one thing I probably use the most of. ;-) > > > > > > Me too. I generally use McCormick's which I buy in large quantities when > I > > > visit the States. > > > > > > Doug > > > > Does McCormick make a salt free? > > I'd like to get away from some of the addititives.... > > > > K. > > > Have you tried Penzey's Florida Seasoned Pepper? It's a citrus pepper (it > has orange and lemon) and no salt. Here's the ingredients: > Tellicherry black pepper, lemon peel, orange peel, citric acid, garlic, and > onion. > They do have lemon pepper, which I love, but it does have salt in it. On the > other hand, it doesn't have alot of additives. > > kimberly > > > -- > > Thanks for the private e-mail, and yes, I am indeed a Penzey's newbie! <lol> Am looking forward to your suggestions, especially the mixed lemon/orange spice. Will visit their website when I have time to browse properly! :-) Do they take Paypal? K. -- Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... >,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,< http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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Katra > wrote in
: >> Have you tried Penzey's Florida Seasoned Pepper? It's a citrus pepper >> (it has orange and lemon) and no salt. Here's the ingredients: >> Tellicherry black pepper, lemon peel, orange peel, citric acid, >> garlic, and onion. > Their Sunny Spain is very lemonny pepperish....No Salt. This stuff puckers your mouth. -- Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but food and water. -------- FIELDS, W. C. |
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Katra > wrote in
: >> Have you tried Penzey's Florida Seasoned Pepper? It's a citrus pepper >> (it has orange and lemon) and no salt. Here's the ingredients: >> Tellicherry black pepper, lemon peel, orange peel, citric acid, >> garlic, and onion. > Their Sunny Spain is very lemonny pepperish....No Salt. This stuff puckers your mouth. -- Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but food and water. -------- FIELDS, W. C. |
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hahabogus > wrote: > Katra > wrote in > : > > >> Have you tried Penzey's Florida Seasoned Pepper? It's a citrus pepper > >> (it has orange and lemon) and no salt. Here's the ingredients: > >> Tellicherry black pepper, lemon peel, orange peel, citric acid, > >> garlic, and onion. > > > > Their Sunny Spain is very lemonny pepperish....No Salt. > This stuff puckers your mouth. Sounds perfect for seafood. :-) K. -- Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... >,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,< http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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hahabogus > wrote: > Katra > wrote in > : > > >> Have you tried Penzey's Florida Seasoned Pepper? It's a citrus pepper > >> (it has orange and lemon) and no salt. Here's the ingredients: > >> Tellicherry black pepper, lemon peel, orange peel, citric acid, > >> garlic, and onion. > > > > Their Sunny Spain is very lemonny pepperish....No Salt. > This stuff puckers your mouth. Sounds perfect for seafood. :-) K. -- Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... >,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,< http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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Katra > wrote in news:KatraMungBean-
: >> Their Sunny Spain is very lemonny pepperish....No Salt. >> This stuff puckers your mouth. > > Sounds perfect for seafood. :-) > > K. > It is very nice on chicken. -- Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but food and water. -------- FIELDS, W. C. |
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Katra > wrote in news:KatraMungBean-
: >> Their Sunny Spain is very lemonny pepperish....No Salt. >> This stuff puckers your mouth. > > Sounds perfect for seafood. :-) > > K. > It is very nice on chicken. -- Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but food and water. -------- FIELDS, W. C. |
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In article >,
hahabogus > wrote: > Katra > wrote in news:KatraMungBean- > : > > >> Their Sunny Spain is very lemonny pepperish....No Salt. > >> This stuff puckers your mouth. > > > > Sounds perfect for seafood. :-) > > > > K. > > > > It is very nice on chicken. Makes sense. I currently use Lemon pepper on just about any meat, and some veggies as well. <G> K. -- Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... >,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,< http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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