In this day and age of, of , well cutbacks and economy measures have you had
a positive experience on an airline lately?

Last night returning from my favorite smokehouse in Bentonville AR. the
night before I caught the late flight from DFW to Beautiful Downtown
Burbank.

I asked for and receive an upgrade to first - not bad.

After an imitation Martini (Vodka Rocks) there came a salad with romaine
halved cherry tomatoes, artichoke hearts, kalamata olives, sliced mushrooms
and a nice vinaigrette I chose to have a piece of focaccia in place of the
wheat roll. Later their "Low Carb Brisket" Not bad for several slices of
tender but well done brisket in a flavorful sauce and mashed cauliflower
with cheese. Not great but acceptable and filling along with some red wine.

Now the best part - Hagen Das vanilla ice cream with your choice of : Hot
Fudge, butterscotch, whipped cream, strawberries, or chopped nuts. I had
all of the above except for the butterscotch and a coffee with a shot of
cognac.

An acceptable (not great) end to a horrid day. The fact that I had forgotten
to eat that day may have had something to do with my perception.

Dimitri

Which airline?

"Dimitri" > wrote in message
m...
> In this day and age of, of , well cutbacks and economy measures have you
> had a positive experience on an airline lately?
>
> Last night returning from my favorite smokehouse in Bentonville AR. the
> night before I caught the late flight from DFW to Beautiful Downtown
> Burbank.
>
> I asked for and receive an upgrade to first - not bad.
>
> After an imitation Martini (Vodka Rocks) there came a salad with romaine
> halved cherry tomatoes, artichoke hearts, kalamata olives, sliced
> mushrooms and a nice vinaigrette I chose to have a piece of focaccia in
> place of the wheat roll. Later their "Low Carb Brisket" Not bad for
> several slices of tender but well done brisket in a flavorful sauce and
> mashed cauliflower with cheese. Not great but acceptable and filling
> along with some red wine.
>
> Now the best part - Hagen Das vanilla ice cream with your choice of : Hot
> Fudge, butterscotch, whipped cream, strawberries, or chopped nuts. I had
> all of the above except for the butterscotch and a coffee with a shot of
> cognac.
>
> An acceptable (not great) end to a horrid day. The fact that I had
> forgotten to eat that day may have had something to do with my perception.
>
> Dimitri
>

Which airline?

"Dimitri" > wrote in message
m...
> In this day and age of, of , well cutbacks and economy measures have you
> had a positive experience on an airline lately?
>
> Last night returning from my favorite smokehouse in Bentonville AR. the
> night before I caught the late flight from DFW to Beautiful Downtown
> Burbank.
>
> I asked for and receive an upgrade to first - not bad.
>
> After an imitation Martini (Vodka Rocks) there came a salad with romaine
> halved cherry tomatoes, artichoke hearts, kalamata olives, sliced
> mushrooms and a nice vinaigrette I chose to have a piece of focaccia in
> place of the wheat roll. Later their "Low Carb Brisket" Not bad for
> several slices of tender but well done brisket in a flavorful sauce and
> mashed cauliflower with cheese. Not great but acceptable and filling
> along with some red wine.
>
> Now the best part - Hagen Das vanilla ice cream with your choice of : Hot
> Fudge, butterscotch, whipped cream, strawberries, or chopped nuts. I had
> all of the above except for the butterscotch and a coffee with a shot of
> cognac.
>
> An acceptable (not great) end to a horrid day. The fact that I had
> forgotten to eat that day may have had something to do with my perception.
>
> Dimitri
>

A/A


"Lucy" > wrote in message
om...
> Which airline?
>
> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
> m...
>> In this day and age of, of , well cutbacks and economy measures have you
>> had a positive experience on an airline lately?
>>
>> Last night returning from my favorite smokehouse in Bentonville AR. the
>> night before I caught the late flight from DFW to Beautiful Downtown
>> Burbank.
>>
>> I asked for and receive an upgrade to first - not bad.
>>
>> After an imitation Martini (Vodka Rocks) there came a salad with romaine
>> halved cherry tomatoes, artichoke hearts, kalamata olives, sliced
>> mushrooms and a nice vinaigrette I chose to have a piece of focaccia in
>> place of the wheat roll. Later their "Low Carb Brisket" Not bad for
>> several slices of tender but well done brisket in a flavorful sauce and
>> mashed cauliflower with cheese. Not great but acceptable and filling
>> along with some red wine.
>>
>> Now the best part - Hagen Das vanilla ice cream with your choice of : Hot
>> Fudge, butterscotch, whipped cream, strawberries, or chopped nuts. I had
>> all of the above except for the butterscotch and a coffee with a shot of
>> cognac.
>>
>> An acceptable (not great) end to a horrid day. The fact that I had
>> forgotten to eat that day may have had something to do with my
>> perception.
>>
>> Dimitri
>>
>
>

A/A


"Lucy" > wrote in message
om...
> Which airline?
>
> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
> m...
>> In this day and age of, of , well cutbacks and economy measures have you
>> had a positive experience on an airline lately?
>>
>> Last night returning from my favorite smokehouse in Bentonville AR. the
>> night before I caught the late flight from DFW to Beautiful Downtown
>> Burbank.
>>
>> I asked for and receive an upgrade to first - not bad.
>>
>> After an imitation Martini (Vodka Rocks) there came a salad with romaine
>> halved cherry tomatoes, artichoke hearts, kalamata olives, sliced
>> mushrooms and a nice vinaigrette I chose to have a piece of focaccia in
>> place of the wheat roll. Later their "Low Carb Brisket" Not bad for
>> several slices of tender but well done brisket in a flavorful sauce and
>> mashed cauliflower with cheese. Not great but acceptable and filling
>> along with some red wine.
>>
>> Now the best part - Hagen Das vanilla ice cream with your choice of : Hot
>> Fudge, butterscotch, whipped cream, strawberries, or chopped nuts. I had
>> all of the above except for the butterscotch and a coffee with a shot of
>> cognac.
>>
>> An acceptable (not great) end to a horrid day. The fact that I had
>> forgotten to eat that day may have had something to do with my
>> perception.
>>
>> Dimitri
>>
>
>

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:20:43 GMT, "Dimitri" >
wrote:

>In this day and age of, of , well cutbacks and economy measures have you had
>a positive experience on an airline lately?
>
>Last night returning from my favorite smokehouse in Bentonville AR. the
>night before I caught the late flight from DFW to Beautiful Downtown
>Burbank.
>
>I asked for and receive an upgrade to first - not bad.
>
>After an imitation Martini (Vodka Rocks) there came a salad with romaine
>halved cherry tomatoes, artichoke hearts, kalamata olives, sliced mushrooms
>and a nice vinaigrette I chose to have a piece of focaccia in place of the
>wheat roll. Later their "Low Carb Brisket" Not bad for several slices of
>tender but well done brisket in a flavorful sauce and mashed cauliflower
>with cheese. Not great but acceptable and filling along with some red wine.
>
>Now the best part - Hagen Das vanilla ice cream with your choice of : Hot
>Fudge, butterscotch, whipped cream, strawberries, or chopped nuts. I had
>all of the above except for the butterscotch and a coffee with a shot of
>cognac.
>
>An acceptable (not great) end to a horrid day. The fact that I had forgotten
>to eat that day may have had something to do with my perception.
>
>Dimitri

I'll add a good coach experience. Lufthansa LAX to Frankfurt and back.
Decent standard-issue coach food, but really good coffee and unlimited
free booze. I speak good German, and nobody else in our party spoke it
at all, so I could flirt with the flight attendants in front of my
wife and our church choir without anybody catching on.

--
Chris Green

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:20:43 GMT, "Dimitri" >
wrote:

>In this day and age of, of , well cutbacks and economy measures have you had
>a positive experience on an airline lately?
>
>Last night returning from my favorite smokehouse in Bentonville AR. the
>night before I caught the late flight from DFW to Beautiful Downtown
>Burbank.
>
>I asked for and receive an upgrade to first - not bad.
>
>After an imitation Martini (Vodka Rocks) there came a salad with romaine
>halved cherry tomatoes, artichoke hearts, kalamata olives, sliced mushrooms
>and a nice vinaigrette I chose to have a piece of focaccia in place of the
>wheat roll. Later their "Low Carb Brisket" Not bad for several slices of
>tender but well done brisket in a flavorful sauce and mashed cauliflower
>with cheese. Not great but acceptable and filling along with some red wine.
>
>Now the best part - Hagen Das vanilla ice cream with your choice of : Hot
>Fudge, butterscotch, whipped cream, strawberries, or chopped nuts. I had
>all of the above except for the butterscotch and a coffee with a shot of
>cognac.
>
>An acceptable (not great) end to a horrid day. The fact that I had forgotten
>to eat that day may have had something to do with my perception.
>
>Dimitri

I'll add a good coach experience. Lufthansa LAX to Frankfurt and back.
Decent standard-issue coach food, but really good coffee and unlimited
free booze. I speak good German, and nobody else in our party spoke it
at all, so I could flirt with the flight attendants in front of my
wife and our church choir without anybody catching on.

--
Chris Green

Dimitri wrote:
> In this day and age of, of , well cutbacks and economy measures have you had
> a positive experience on an airline lately?
>
> Last night returning from my favorite smokehouse in Bentonville AR. the
> night before I caught the late flight from DFW to Beautiful Downtown
> Burbank.
>
> I asked for and receive an upgrade to first - not bad.
>
> After an imitation Martini (Vodka Rocks) there came a salad with romaine
> halved cherry tomatoes, artichoke hearts, kalamata olives, sliced mushrooms
> and a nice vinaigrette I chose to have a piece of focaccia in place of the
> wheat roll. Later their "Low Carb Brisket" Not bad for several slices of
> tender but well done brisket in a flavorful sauce and mashed cauliflower
> with cheese. Not great but acceptable and filling along with some red wine.
>
> Now the best part - Hagen Das vanilla ice cream with your choice of : Hot
> Fudge, butterscotch, whipped cream, strawberries, or chopped nuts. I had
> all of the above except for the butterscotch and a coffee with a shot of
> cognac.
>


That sounds like the ONLY way to fly, but you were upgraded.
Would the meal have been worth paying the first class fare?
;-)
gloria p

Christopher Green wrote:
>
> I'll add a good coach experience. Lufthansa LAX to Frankfurt and back.
> Decent standard-issue coach food, but really good coffee and unlimited
> free booze. I speak good German, and nobody else in our party spoke it
> at all, so I could flirt with the flight attendants in front of my
> wife and our church choir without anybody catching on.
>



I'll agree that Lufthansa does very well by its passengers
on those flights, but the ground personnel can be very crusty
and unaccomodating. Our first experience with Frankfurt
ground crews 10 yrs. ago included one lady we still refer to
as "Helga, the Baggage Security Nazi".

gloria p

Christopher Green wrote:
>
> I'll add a good coach experience. Lufthansa LAX to Frankfurt and back.
> Decent standard-issue coach food, but really good coffee and unlimited
> free booze. I speak good German, and nobody else in our party spoke it
> at all, so I could flirt with the flight attendants in front of my
> wife and our church choir without anybody catching on.
>



I'll agree that Lufthansa does very well by its passengers
on those flights, but the ground personnel can be very crusty
and unaccomodating. Our first experience with Frankfurt
ground crews 10 yrs. ago included one lady we still refer to
as "Helga, the Baggage Security Nazi".

gloria p

Dimitri wrote:
> In this day and age of, of , well cutbacks and economy measures have you had
> a positive experience on an airline lately?
>
> Last night returning from my favorite smokehouse in Bentonville AR. the
> night before I caught the late flight from DFW to Beautiful Downtown
> Burbank.
>
> I asked for and receive an upgrade to first - not bad.
>
> After an imitation Martini (Vodka Rocks) there came a salad with romaine
> halved cherry tomatoes, artichoke hearts, kalamata olives, sliced mushrooms
> and a nice vinaigrette I chose to have a piece of focaccia in place of the
> wheat roll. Later their "Low Carb Brisket" Not bad for several slices of
> tender but well done brisket in a flavorful sauce and mashed cauliflower
> with cheese. Not great but acceptable and filling along with some red wine.
>
> Now the best part - Hagen Das vanilla ice cream with your choice of : Hot
> Fudge, butterscotch, whipped cream, strawberries, or chopped nuts. I had
> all of the above except for the butterscotch and a coffee with a shot of
> cognac.
>
> An acceptable (not great) end to a horrid day. The fact that I had forgotten
> to eat that day may have had something to do with my perception.
>
> Dimitri
>
>
Airline food would be much better if they stuck to cold dishes (salads,
cold cuts, sandwiches, sushi, etc.) or food that reheats well (like the
braised brisket you had, or other stews and braises). But they insist
on serving reheated stir-fries or grilled meat/chicken.

Skip the airline food if possible and pick up sandwiches on the way to
the airport.

--

================================================== =============
Regards

Louis Cohen

"Yes, yes, I will desalinate you, you grande morue!"

Émile Zola, Assommoir 1877

Dimitri wrote:
> In this day and age of, of , well cutbacks and economy measures have you had
> a positive experience on an airline lately?
>
> Last night returning from my favorite smokehouse in Bentonville AR. the
> night before I caught the late flight from DFW to Beautiful Downtown
> Burbank.
>
> I asked for and receive an upgrade to first - not bad.
>
> After an imitation Martini (Vodka Rocks) there came a salad with romaine
> halved cherry tomatoes, artichoke hearts, kalamata olives, sliced mushrooms
> and a nice vinaigrette I chose to have a piece of focaccia in place of the
> wheat roll. Later their "Low Carb Brisket" Not bad for several slices of
> tender but well done brisket in a flavorful sauce and mashed cauliflower
> with cheese. Not great but acceptable and filling along with some red wine.
>
> Now the best part - Hagen Das vanilla ice cream with your choice of : Hot
> Fudge, butterscotch, whipped cream, strawberries, or chopped nuts. I had
> all of the above except for the butterscotch and a coffee with a shot of
> cognac.
>
> An acceptable (not great) end to a horrid day. The fact that I had forgotten
> to eat that day may have had something to do with my perception.
>
> Dimitri
>
>
Airline food would be much better if they stuck to cold dishes (salads,
cold cuts, sandwiches, sushi, etc.) or food that reheats well (like the
braised brisket you had, or other stews and braises). But they insist
on serving reheated stir-fries or grilled meat/chicken.

Skip the airline food if possible and pick up sandwiches on the way to
the airport.

--

================================================== =============
Regards

Louis Cohen

"Yes, yes, I will desalinate you, you grande morue!"

Émile Zola, Assommoir 1877

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:25:00 -0800, Louis Cohen
> wrote:


>Airline food would be much better if they stuck to cold dishes (salads,
>cold cuts, sandwiches, sushi, etc.) or food that reheats well (like the
>braised brisket you had, or other stews and braises). But they insist
>on serving reheated stir-fries or grilled meat/chicken.

It takes a real brave person to eat sushi offered by any US carrier.

Boron

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:25:00 -0800, Louis Cohen
> wrote:


>Airline food would be much better if they stuck to cold dishes (salads,
>cold cuts, sandwiches, sushi, etc.) or food that reheats well (like the
>braised brisket you had, or other stews and braises). But they insist
>on serving reheated stir-fries or grilled meat/chicken.

It takes a real brave person to eat sushi offered by any US carrier.

Boron

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:20:43 GMT, "Dimitri"
> wrote:

> Hagen Das vanilla ice cream

I thought milk/cream was on the no-no list (?)... aren't
you're allowed 30 to 55 carbs per day? Ice cream is at
least 16.
http://www.annecollins.com/dietary-c...-ice-cream.htm

sf

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:20:43 GMT, "Dimitri"
> wrote:

> Hagen Das vanilla ice cream

I thought milk/cream was on the no-no list (?)... aren't
you're allowed 30 to 55 carbs per day? Ice cream is at
least 16.
http://www.annecollins.com/dietary-c...-ice-cream.htm

sf

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:05:23 GMT, Christopher Green
> wrote:

> I speak good German, and nobody else in our party spoke it
> at all, so I could flirt with the flight attendants in front of my
> wife and our church choir without anybody catching on.


You Cad!

sf

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:05:23 GMT, Christopher Green
> wrote:

> I speak good German, and nobody else in our party spoke it
> at all, so I could flirt with the flight attendants in front of my
> wife and our church choir without anybody catching on.


You Cad!

sf

In article > ,
"Dimitri" > wrote:

> In this day and age of, of , well cutbacks and economy measures have you had
> a positive experience on an airline lately?
>
> Last night returning from my favorite smokehouse in Bentonville AR. the
> night before I caught the late flight from DFW to Beautiful Downtown
> Burbank.
>
> I asked for and receive an upgrade to first - not bad.
>
> After an imitation Martini (Vodka Rocks) there came a salad with romaine
> halved cherry tomatoes, artichoke hearts, kalamata olives, sliced mushrooms
> and a nice vinaigrette I chose to have a piece of focaccia in place of the
> wheat roll. Later their "Low Carb Brisket" Not bad for several slices of
> tender but well done brisket in a flavorful sauce and mashed cauliflower
> with cheese. Not great but acceptable and filling along with some red wine.
>
> Now the best part - Hagen Das vanilla ice cream with your choice of : Hot
> Fudge, butterscotch, whipped cream, strawberries, or chopped nuts. I had
> all of the above except for the butterscotch and a coffee with a shot of
> cognac.
>
> An acceptable (not great) end to a horrid day. The fact that I had forgotten
> to eat that day may have had something to do with my perception.
>
I made the mistake of paying money for a meal in coach class on "Ted"
(United's answer to Jetblue and Southwest) last month. Puny portion for
the price. Next time I pack some real goodies.

Cindy

--
C.J. Fuller

Delete the obvious to email me

Christopher Green wrote:

> I'll add a good coach experience. Lufthansa LAX to Frankfurt and back.
> Decent standard-issue coach food, but really good coffee and unlimited
> free booze. I speak good German, and nobody else in our party spoke it
> at all, so I could flirt with the flight attendants in front of my
> wife and our church choir without anybody catching on.


Well I hope that the LH stews were somewhat attractive and acted in a
professional manner...stews with such characteristics are increasingly rare
on US carriers.

Screw the food, I just want a relatively professional cabin staff when I
fly.

What is it with US airlines and their elderly and rude stews? Delta and
Northwest are the very worst offenders that I've seen. And whatever
happened to the concept of height - weight correlation? I've seen plenty of
fat stews - who on earth wants to look at a fat stew? Fat people are tiring
enough to look out, but to be working for an airline? These gals make flyig
on US carriers a distinctly dreary experience. Some of these girls should
have been put out to pasture long ago but heck, the pasture wouldn't even
have them...

I like the "Singapore Girl" stewardesses on Singapore Airlines - they are
quiet, attractive, effecient and deferential. No fat mouthy scowling cabin
staff on SQ!

--
Best
Greg

Christopher Green wrote:

> I'll add a good coach experience. Lufthansa LAX to Frankfurt and back.
> Decent standard-issue coach food, but really good coffee and unlimited
> free booze. I speak good German, and nobody else in our party spoke it
> at all, so I could flirt with the flight attendants in front of my
> wife and our church choir without anybody catching on.


Well I hope that the LH stews were somewhat attractive and acted in a
professional manner...stews with such characteristics are increasingly rare
on US carriers.

Screw the food, I just want a relatively professional cabin staff when I
fly.

What is it with US airlines and their elderly and rude stews? Delta and
Northwest are the very worst offenders that I've seen. And whatever
happened to the concept of height - weight correlation? I've seen plenty of
fat stews - who on earth wants to look at a fat stew? Fat people are tiring
enough to look out, but to be working for an airline? These gals make flyig
on US carriers a distinctly dreary experience. Some of these girls should
have been put out to pasture long ago but heck, the pasture wouldn't even
have them...

I like the "Singapore Girl" stewardesses on Singapore Airlines - they are
quiet, attractive, effecient and deferential. No fat mouthy scowling cabin
staff on SQ!

--
Best
Greg

Dimitri wrote:
> In this day and age of, of , well cutbacks and economy measures have
you had
> a positive experience on an airline lately?
>

American used to have good box snacks, but I heard they are getting rid
of all food on flights. United has an awesome cookie-type thing -
almost a biscotti - I don't know what it is, but it is to die for.
they come two in a package, rectangular about 1 in. X 3 in. - never
enough. The rest of United's food is pretty sucky. They try to make
you buy their meals for $10 and they look pretty crappy.

-L.

Dimitri wrote:
> In this day and age of, of , well cutbacks and economy measures have
you had
> a positive experience on an airline lately?
>

American used to have good box snacks, but I heard they are getting rid
of all food on flights. United has an awesome cookie-type thing -
almost a biscotti - I don't know what it is, but it is to die for.
they come two in a package, rectangular about 1 in. X 3 in. - never
enough. The rest of United's food is pretty sucky. They try to make
you buy their meals for $10 and they look pretty crappy.

-L.

"Dimitri" > wrote in message
m...

> In this day and age of, of , well cutbacks and
> economy measures have you had a positive
> experience on an airline lately?

SAS (Scandinavian Airlines) generally has quite good food. And the
food on KAL (Korean Airlines) was excellent. Of course, sitting in
business class helps too, I'm sure.
-j

"Dimitri" > wrote in message
m...

> In this day and age of, of , well cutbacks and
> economy measures have you had a positive
> experience on an airline lately?

SAS (Scandinavian Airlines) generally has quite good food. And the
food on KAL (Korean Airlines) was excellent. Of course, sitting in
business class helps too, I'm sure.
-j

"Louis Cohen" > wrote in message
...
>>
> Airline food would be much better if they stuck to cold dishes (salads,
> cold cuts, sandwiches, sushi, etc.) or food that reheats well (like the
> braised brisket you had, or other stews and braises). But they insist on
> serving reheated stir-fries or grilled meat/chicken.
>

The best airline food I ever had was cold poached salmon, served with sour
cream, fresh dill, fresh lemon, and I can't remember what else. Really
good. It was about 10 years ago -- I had a new job, and my first assignment
was to fly out to San Diego w/ my boss and his boss. As a result of buying
my ticket at the last minute, I paid full fare (well, the FAA paid, not me)
and somehow I ended up in first class with Lyle Lovett and some of his
entourage. Not sure what Lyle had for lunch that day, but he very kindly
helped me retrieve my bag from the overhead compartment upon deplaning.

Luckily, my new bosses were pretty cheerful about the whole thing. Not my
fault they had to sit in coach.

"Louis Cohen" > wrote in message
...
>>
> Airline food would be much better if they stuck to cold dishes (salads,
> cold cuts, sandwiches, sushi, etc.) or food that reheats well (like the
> braised brisket you had, or other stews and braises). But they insist on
> serving reheated stir-fries or grilled meat/chicken.
>

The best airline food I ever had was cold poached salmon, served with sour
cream, fresh dill, fresh lemon, and I can't remember what else. Really
good. It was about 10 years ago -- I had a new job, and my first assignment
was to fly out to San Diego w/ my boss and his boss. As a result of buying
my ticket at the last minute, I paid full fare (well, the FAA paid, not me)
and somehow I ended up in first class with Lyle Lovett and some of his
entourage. Not sure what Lyle had for lunch that day, but he very kindly
helped me retrieve my bag from the overhead compartment upon deplaning.

Luckily, my new bosses were pretty cheerful about the whole thing. Not my
fault they had to sit in coach.

"Puester" > wrote in message
...
> Dimitri wrote:
>> In this day and age of, of , well cutbacks and economy measures have you
>> had a positive experience on an airline lately?
>>
>> Last night returning from my favorite smokehouse in Bentonville AR. the
>> night before I caught the late flight from DFW to Beautiful Downtown
>> Burbank.
>>
>> I asked for and receive an upgrade to first - not bad.
>>
>> After an imitation Martini (Vodka Rocks) there came a salad with romaine
>> halved cherry tomatoes, artichoke hearts, kalamata olives, sliced
>> mushrooms and a nice vinaigrette I chose to have a piece of focaccia in
>> place of the wheat roll. Later their "Low Carb Brisket" Not bad for
>> several slices of tender but well done brisket in a flavorful sauce and
>> mashed cauliflower with cheese. Not great but acceptable and filling
>> along with some red wine.
>>
>> Now the best part - Hagen Das vanilla ice cream with your choice of : Hot
>> Fudge, butterscotch, whipped cream, strawberries, or chopped nuts. I had
>> all of the above except for the butterscotch and a coffee with a shot of
>> cognac.
>>
>
>
> That sounds like the ONLY way to fly, but you were upgraded.
> Would the meal have been worth paying the first class fare?
> ;-)
> gloria p

Of course not.

Dimitri

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:20:43 GMT, "Dimitri"
> > wrote:
>
>> Hagen Das vanilla ice cream
>
> I thought milk/cream was on the no-no list (?)... aren't
> you're allowed 30 to 55 carbs per day? Ice cream is at
> least 16.
> http://www.annecollins.com/dietary-c...-ice-cream.htm
>
> sf

Sometimes you just have to say - screw the carbs - aside from that I needed
the sugar boost - the day started at 4:00 AM Bentonville time then ended at
11:30 PM California time. I ain't as young as I used to be.

Dimitri

Dimitri wrote:
> In this day and age of, of , well cutbacks and economy measures have
> you had a positive experience on an airline lately?
>
> Last night returning from my favorite smokehouse in Bentonville AR.
> the night before I caught the late flight from DFW to Beautiful
> Downtown Burbank.
>
> I asked for and receive an upgrade to first - not bad.
>
> Dimitri

So you just asked and got it without paying anything more?

Jill

In article > , "Dimitri"
> wrote:

> In this day and age of, of , well cutbacks and economy measures have you
> had
> a positive experience on an airline lately?
>
> Last night returning from my favorite smokehouse in Bentonville AR. the
> night before I caught the late flight from DFW to Beautiful Downtown
> Burbank.
>
> I asked for and receive an upgrade to first - not bad.
>
> After an imitation Martini (Vodka Rocks) there came a salad with romaine
> halved cherry tomatoes, artichoke hearts, kalamata olives, sliced
> mushrooms
> and a nice vinaigrette I chose to have a piece of focaccia in place of
> the
> wheat roll. Later their "Low Carb Brisket" Not bad for several slices
> of
> tender but well done brisket in a flavorful sauce and mashed cauliflower
> with cheese. Not great but acceptable and filling along with some red
> wine.
>
> Now the best part - Hagen Das vanilla ice cream with your choice of : Hot
> Fudge, butterscotch, whipped cream, strawberries, or chopped nuts. I had
> all of the above except for the butterscotch and a coffee with a shot of
> cognac.
>
> An acceptable (not great) end to a horrid day. The fact that I had
> forgotten
> to eat that day may have had something to do with my perception.
>
> Dimitri

Jeez, I got a small bag of twisty pretzel rods and a can of Bloody Mary
mix back in steerage. Good thing I brought my own snacks (nuts and
dried fruits)
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Trip Report and pics added 1-13-05
"I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and say,
'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner, performance
at New York, New York, January 10, 2005.

In article . net>,
"Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
(snip)
> Screw the food, I just want a relatively professional cabin staff when I
> fly.
>
> What is it with US airlines and their elderly and rude stews? Delta and
> Northwest are the very worst offenders that I've seen. And whatever
> happened to the concept of height - weight correlation?

Labor laws, probably.

>I've seen plenty of fat stews - who on earth wants to look at a fat
>stew? Fat people are tiring enough to look out, but to be working for
>an airline?

Why not, other than making it difficult in the aisles. If the job gets
done, I don't much care what the person looks like. You said you want a
relatively professional cabin staff.

These gals make flyig on US carriers a distinctly dreary experience.

The last thing I want on a plane is excitement. If you have you rely on
looking at the flight attendants to ward off dreary, you need a better
book to read. "-)

>Some of these girls

I'll bet they're women, not girls, Greg.

> should have been put out to pasture long ago but heck, the pasture
> wouldn't even have them...

What are you, bored today? <grin>

>
> I like the "Singapore Girl" stewardesses on Singapore Airlines - they
> are quiet, attractive, effecient and deferential. No fat mouthy
> scowling cabin staff on SQ!

Have a nice flight. LOL!
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Trip Report and pics added 1-13-05
"I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and say,
'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner, performance
at New York, New York, January 10, 2005.

In article . net>,
"Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
(snip)
> Screw the food, I just want a relatively professional cabin staff when I
> fly.
>
> What is it with US airlines and their elderly and rude stews? Delta and
> Northwest are the very worst offenders that I've seen. And whatever
> happened to the concept of height - weight correlation?

Labor laws, probably.

>I've seen plenty of fat stews - who on earth wants to look at a fat
>stew? Fat people are tiring enough to look out, but to be working for
>an airline?

Why not, other than making it difficult in the aisles. If the job gets
done, I don't much care what the person looks like. You said you want a
relatively professional cabin staff.

These gals make flyig on US carriers a distinctly dreary experience.

The last thing I want on a plane is excitement. If you have you rely on
looking at the flight attendants to ward off dreary, you need a better
book to read. "-)

>Some of these girls

I'll bet they're women, not girls, Greg.

> should have been put out to pasture long ago but heck, the pasture
> wouldn't even have them...

What are you, bored today? <grin>

>
> I like the "Singapore Girl" stewardesses on Singapore Airlines - they
> are quiet, attractive, effecient and deferential. No fat mouthy
> scowling cabin staff on SQ!

Have a nice flight. LOL!
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Trip Report and pics added 1-13-05
"I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and say,
'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner, performance
at New York, New York, January 10, 2005.

jmcquown wrote:
> Dimitri wrote:
>
>>In this day and age of, of , well cutbacks and economy measures have
>>you had a positive experience on an airline lately?
>>
>>Last night returning from my favorite smokehouse in Bentonville AR.
>>the night before I caught the late flight from DFW to Beautiful
>>Downtown Burbank.
>>
>>I asked for and receive an upgrade to first - not bad.
>>
>>Dimitri
>
>
> So you just asked and got it without paying anything more?
>
> Jill
>
>


It's usually a Frequent Flyer perk*. My husband just lost his Frequent
Flyer (Premier Exec) status recently after having it for ~20 years, and
now he whines every time he has to fly like the po' folk....

* free upgrades, special check-in lines, special security lines,
early seat selection, etc.

gloria p

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article > , "Dimitri"
> > wrote:
>
>> In this day and age of, of , well cutbacks and economy measures have
>> you had
>> a positive experience on an airline lately?
>>
>> Last night returning from my favorite smokehouse in Bentonville AR.
>> the night before I caught the late flight from DFW to Beautiful
>> Downtown Burbank.
>>
>> I asked for and receive an upgrade to first - not bad.
>>
>> After an imitation Martini (Vodka Rocks) there came a salad with
>> romaine halved cherry tomatoes, artichoke hearts, kalamata olives,
>> sliced mushrooms
>> and a nice vinaigrette I chose to have a piece of focaccia in place
>> of the
>> wheat roll. Later their "Low Carb Brisket" Not bad for several
>> slices of
>> tender but well done brisket in a flavorful sauce and mashed
>> cauliflower with cheese. Not great but acceptable and filling along
>> with some red wine.
>>
>> Now the best part - Hagen Das vanilla ice cream with your choice of
>> : Hot Fudge, butterscotch, whipped cream, strawberries, or chopped
>> nuts. I had all of the above except for the butterscotch and a
>> coffee with a shot of cognac.
>>
>> An acceptable (not great) end to a horrid day. The fact that I had
>> forgotten
>> to eat that day may have had something to do with my perception.
>>
>> Dimitri
>
> Jeez, I got a small bag of twisty pretzel rods and a can of Bloody
> Mary mix back in steerage. Good thing I brought my own snacks (nuts
> and
> dried fruits)

I remember flying out of Savannah, GA. It was early in the morning, around
6 AM. I was barely awake and frankly just grateful for the brew which
passed for coffee. Also if you sit right behind "business class" you get
more leg room. But then I was tantalized by the scent of bacon, eggs, home
fries and the sounds of silverware clinking on PLATES. I was given a
styrofoam tray with a box of dry cereal, a banana and a teensy carton of
milk. I was glad I had packed PB crackers and trail mix for the layover in
Atlanta. I never fly without snacks.

Jill

Gregory Morrow wrote:

> What is it with US airlines and their elderly and rude stews? Delta and
> Northwest are the very worst offenders that I've seen. And whatever
> happened to the concept of height - weight correlation? I've seen plenty of
> fat stews - who on earth wants to look at a fat stew? Fat people are tiring
> enough to look out, but to be working for an airline? These gals make flyig
> on US carriers a distinctly dreary experience. Some of these girls should
> have been put out to pasture long ago but heck, the pasture wouldn't even
> have them...
>
> I like the "Singapore Girl" stewardesses on Singapore Airlines - they are
> quiet, attractive, effecient and deferential. No fat mouthy scowling cabin
> staff on SQ!

Hands down the prettiest Flight Attendants I've
ever flown with were the amazonian women on KLM.
Those tall blondes in the gorgeous blue uniforms
with real curves and smiles made me feel right at
home I swear I don't think anyone in The
Netherlands is shorter than 5'8", LOL.
On a short flight between AMS and London and they
even fed us delicious egg salad sandwiches.
Goomba

Gregory Morrow wrote:

> What is it with US airlines and their elderly and rude stews? Delta and
> Northwest are the very worst offenders that I've seen. And whatever
> happened to the concept of height - weight correlation? I've seen plenty of
> fat stews - who on earth wants to look at a fat stew? Fat people are tiring
> enough to look out, but to be working for an airline? These gals make flyig
> on US carriers a distinctly dreary experience. Some of these girls should
> have been put out to pasture long ago but heck, the pasture wouldn't even
> have them...
>
> I like the "Singapore Girl" stewardesses on Singapore Airlines - they are
> quiet, attractive, effecient and deferential. No fat mouthy scowling cabin
> staff on SQ!

Hands down the prettiest Flight Attendants I've
ever flown with were the amazonian women on KLM.
Those tall blondes in the gorgeous blue uniforms
with real curves and smiles made me feel right at
home I swear I don't think anyone in The
Netherlands is shorter than 5'8", LOL.
On a short flight between AMS and London and they
even fed us delicious egg salad sandwiches.
Goomba

In > Goomba38 wrote:

> Hands down the prettiest Flight Attendants I've
> ever flown with were the amazonian women on KLM.
> Those tall blondes in the gorgeous blue uniforms
> with real curves and smiles made me feel right at
> home I swear I don't think anyone in The
> Netherlands is shorter than 5'8", LOL.
> On a short flight between AMS and London and they
> even fed us delicious egg salad sandwiches.
> Goomba


Yes, I took a flight from Toronto to Amsterdam to Barcelona on KLM and
yes, they really had good food...

--
Cheers

Dennis

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In > Goomba38 wrote:

> Hands down the prettiest Flight Attendants I've
> ever flown with were the amazonian women on KLM.
> Those tall blondes in the gorgeous blue uniforms
> with real curves and smiles made me feel right at
> home I swear I don't think anyone in The
> Netherlands is shorter than 5'8", LOL.
> On a short flight between AMS and London and they
> even fed us delicious egg salad sandwiches.
> Goomba


Yes, I took a flight from Toronto to Amsterdam to Barcelona on KLM and
yes, they really had good food...

--
Cheers

Dennis

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Ruddell wrote:

>
> Yes, I took a flight from Toronto to Amsterdam to Barcelona on KLM and
> yes, they really had good food...
>

I flew Toronto to Amsterdam to Copenhagen on KLM. The sandwiches on the
Amsterdam to Copenhagen leg were quite good, nice cold cuts on good bread.
The food on the Toronto Amsterdam leg was another matter. It was
disgusting. My previous flight to Europe was on Air Transat. We paid quite
a bit extra for KLM because I didn't like flying like a sardine in a can
and being fed crap. KLM, despite the higher price was no better.