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On 20 Jan 2005 23:05:02 -0600, "Bob"
> wrote: > zxcvbob (no relation) wrote: > > > When does the new season start? > > Tomorrow: Friday, January 20, on USA. > > Bob > Friday (today) is the 21st.... Here are the times I Googled for the USA channel: Sat Jan 22 1:00 AM Sat Jan 22 9:30 AM Sun Jan 23 10:00 PM sf |
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Peter Aitken wrote:
> > "Geoff Miller" > wrote: > > > > Fifo > writes: > > > >> I always thought walking is a popular means of moving your ass > >> from point A to point B but it seems it has become such a > >> vigorous activity that 20 feet closer to the grocery store is > >> considered major privillege. > > > > The extra walking distance _is_ trivial, but then, it isn't the > > point. The point is that this thing of giving various groups > > special privileges at the expense of the majority is a matter > > of principle. > > > > The way that gimp spaces in particular always seem be on the > > increase only adds fuel to the fire. I've made it a point > > to pay attention to this, and I've observed that many times > > when a shopping center's parking lot is repaved, it's re- > > striped with more gimp spaces than were there before. I > > think part of the problem is the defining up of what it is > > to be handicapped. It used to literally mean "crippled," but > > now even the morbidly obese seem to qualify. > > An important factor I believe is choice. Truly handicapped people did not > choose their condition - their paralysis, severe arthritis, broken leg, etc. > was something that was inflicted on them. Mothers, expectant or actual, > chose to be mothers. Thus they should be prepared to put up with the > inconveniences of the condition - and my experience as a parent tells me > that parking spaces are the least of it! > > Does it make you feel superior to use the term "gimp?" Are so so lazy that > having to park a few extra spaces away because of all the "gimp" spaces > really ruins your day? I disapprove of euphemism. People used to be crippled, then handicapped, then (god forbid) differently-abled. Some people were negroes, then colored, then black, then African-American (including Nelson Mandela, according to some clueless newsdroid), then people of color, and probably something that I don't even know about today. What are the retarded called now? Oh yeah, "challenged". For a while they were "exceptional" but I don't think that stuck very long. > Yes, the handicapped permits are misused by some > people, but I would much rather that a few people misuse them than someone > who really needs them has to go without. I don't mind when they're used. What really ****es me off is a crowded parking lot with a dozen empty gimp spaces. What also ****es me off is that medical buildings apparently are required to have no more gimp spaces than a department store of similar size. -- Cheers, Bev ================================================== ================== "My parents just came back from a planet where the dominant lifeform had no bilateral symmetry, and all I got was this stupid F-Shirt." |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 06:46:46 -0600, "Mike Pearce"
> wrote: > "sf" wrote in message ... > > "Mike Pearce" wrote: > > > >> I was > >> walking down the aisle in the supermarket and a woman wearing a short > >> skirt > >> reached over her cart to grab something and I caught a glimpse of her > >> panties. > > > > Oh, yeah - that's real adult: > > I see London, I see France. I see _______ in her > > underpants! > > Were you there? That's exactly what I said to her. <g> > Now THAT - I believe! LOL sf |
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In article >,
The Real Bev > wrote: > Peter Aitken wrote: > > <snip> > > Does it make you feel superior to use the term "gimp?" Are so so lazy that > > having to park a few extra spaces away because of all the "gimp" spaces > > really ruins your day? > > I disapprove of euphemism. People used to be crippled, then > handicapped, then (god forbid) differently-abled. Some people were > negroes, then colored, then black, then African-American (including > Nelson Mandela, according to some clueless newsdroid), then people of > color, and probably something that I don't even know about today. What > are the retarded called now? Oh yeah, "challenged". For a while they > were "exceptional" but I don't think that stuck very long. Translation: yes indeed, it does make them feel superior, although to everyone else, they just look supercilious. |
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sf wrote:
> On 20 Jan 2005 23:05:02 -0600, "Bob" > > wrote: > >> zxcvbob (no relation) wrote: >> >> > When does the new season start? >> >> Tomorrow: Friday, January 20, on USA. Last night. I liked it. I've been a fan since the program started. I liked the Sharona character, but this new one is good, too. Pastorio |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:03:56 -0800, The Real Bev >
wrote: >Peter Aitken wrote: >> >> Does it make you feel superior to use the term "gimp?" Are so so lazy that >> having to park a few extra spaces away because of all the "gimp" spaces >> really ruins your day? > >I disapprove of euphemism. People used to be crippled, then >handicapped, then (god forbid) differently-abled. People with disabilities. They/we are, first and foremost, people. >> Yes, the handicapped permits are misused by some >> people, but I would much rather that a few people misuse them than someone >> who really needs them has to go without. > >I don't mind when they're used. What really ****es me off is a crowded >parking lot with a dozen empty gimp spaces. What also ****es me off is >that medical buildings apparently are required to have no more gimp >spaces than a department store of similar size. Gimp spaces. You are pathetic. <plonk> Carol |
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![]() "Damsel" > wrote in message >> >>I disapprove of euphemism. People used to be crippled, then >>handicapped, then (god forbid) differently-abled. > > People with disabilities. They/we are, first and foremost, people. Yes, but if you are crippled, you are crippled. A fancy name does not change the facts. Slang names (such as the "gimp" referred to) are hurtful, but our society would rather change names than deal with the fact. Cripple has been in the dictionary for a few centuries. What is more demeaning than the "human resources" department instead of the personnel department? Are you merely a resource or are you a person? If you looked at me you'd say I'm bald. It does not alter the fact if you called me a "person of hair growth impairment" instead. |
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "Damsel" > wrote in message > >> > >>I disapprove of euphemism. People used to be crippled, then > >>handicapped, then (god forbid) differently-abled. > > > > People with disabilities. They/we are, first and foremost, people. > > Yes, but if you are crippled, you are crippled. A fancy name does not > change the facts. Slang names (such as the "gimp" referred to) are hurtful, > but our society would rather change names than deal with the fact. Cripple > has been in the dictionary for a few centuries. It's a sad fact that some labels develop negative connotations when used by the general public. Idiot, simpleton and morn used to be medical terms to describe lower levels on mental ability. Now they are just insults. Mentally retarded is no loner acceptable in some circles. Even deaf and blind have become politically incorrect. Wheel chairs are now personal mobility devices. > What is more demeaning than the "human resources" department instead of the > personnel department? Are you merely a resource or are you a person? > > If you looked at me you'd say I'm bald. It does not alter the fact if you > called me a "person of hair growth impairment" instead. I refer to my bald patch as a solar panel for a sex machine :-) |
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Carol took offense:
> Gimp spaces. You are pathetic. <plonk> To be fair, most of the [physically] handicapped people I know refer to themselves as "gimps." In fact, the e-mail handle of one of them is "Gimpy." Is this one of those cases where it's okay for the people to call themselves a term which nobody else can use? (cf. contemporary "acceptable" usage of "nigga") Bob |
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On 2005-01-22, Dave Smith > wrote:
> I refer to my bald patch as a solar panel for a sex machine :-) LOL!! |
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Dave Smith > wrote in
: > Idiot, simpleton and morn used to be medical terms The word Moron was 'invented' or first used and described in Winer NJ. I forget the year but I think around the 20's. -- No Bread Crumbs were hurt in the making of this Meal. Type 2 Diabetic 1AC 5.6mmol or 101mg/dl |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:44:59 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:
>"Damsel" > wrote in message >>> >>>I disapprove of euphemism. People used to be crippled, then >>>handicapped, then (god forbid) differently-abled. >> >> People with disabilities. They/we are, first and foremost, people. > >Yes, but if you are crippled, you are crippled. A fancy name does not >change the facts. Slang names (such as the "gimp" referred to) are hurtful, >but our society would rather change names than deal with the fact. Cripple >has been in the dictionary for a few centuries. There are many long-standing terms in the dictionary. Doesn't make them right. There are a lot of disabling conditions, not all of them visible, and not all of them crippling, in the usual sense of the word. > What is more demeaning than the "human resources" department instead of the >personnel department? Are you merely a resource or are you a person? My last job was as a Human Resource Officer for a state agency. Rehabilitation Services. ![]() (a person isn't in a wheelchair - they are a person who uses a wheelchair), and political correctness is generally a way to offer dignity to someone. >If you looked at me you'd say I'm bald. It does not alter the fact if you >called me a "person of hair growth impairment" instead. Nah, I'd just say you're Ed. Hair, or lack of it, is only relevant when filing a police report. Same with race, hair color, weight, etc. People are people. Some are good, some are bad, and some are a little of each. I'm more inclined to identify someone according to their personality traits and attitudes than what's on the outside. Carol (vertically challenged) LOL! -- "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say, 'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_ |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:37:44 -0500, Dave Smith >
wrote: >I refer to my bald patch as a solar panel for a sex machine :-) Hey, baby, wanna come home with me? ![]() -- "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say, 'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_ |
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On 22 Jan 2005 15:21:02 -0600, "Bob" > wrote:
>To be fair, most of the [physically] handicapped people I know refer to >themselves as "gimps." In fact, the e-mail handle of one of them is "Gimpy." >Is this one of those cases where it's okay for the people to call themselves >a term which nobody else can use? (cf. contemporary "acceptable" usage of >"nigga") Good point, Bob. Now that I think of it, I am allowed to call myself a nut cake or crazy, but I'm very hurt if someone else does it. I know I'm providing ammunition by saying this, but I'm a pro at filtering abusive posters. Carol -- "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say, 'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_ |
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On Sat 22 Jan 2005 02:39:24p, Damsel called across the abyss...
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:44:59 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" > > wrote: > >>"Damsel" > wrote in message >>>> >>>>I disapprove of euphemism. People used to be crippled, then >>>>handicapped, then (god forbid) differently-abled. >>> >>> People with disabilities. They/we are, first and foremost, people. >> >>Yes, but if you are crippled, you are crippled. A fancy name does not >>change the facts. Slang names (such as the "gimp" referred to) are >>hurtful, but our society would rather change names than deal with the >>fact. Cripple has been in the dictionary for a few centuries. > > There are many long-standing terms in the dictionary. Doesn't make them > right. There are a lot of disabling conditions, not all of them > visible, and not all of them crippling, in the usual sense of the word. > >> What is more demeaning than the "human resources" department instead of >> the personnel department? Are you merely a resource or are you a >> person? > > My last job was as a Human Resource Officer for a state agency. > Rehabilitation Services. ![]() > correct (a person isn't in a wheelchair - they are a person who uses a > wheelchair), and political correctness is generally a way to offer > dignity to someone. > >>If you looked at me you'd say I'm bald. It does not alter the fact if >>you called me a "person of hair growth impairment" instead. > > Nah, I'd just say you're Ed. Hair, or lack of it, is only relevant when > filing a police report. Same with race, hair color, weight, etc. > People are people. Some are good, some are bad, and some are a little > of each. I'm more inclined to identify someone according to their > personality traits and attitudes than what's on the outside. > > Carol (vertically challenged) LOL! You're too tall? <G> Wayne |
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On 22 Jan 2005 21:49:15 GMT, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>On Sat 22 Jan 2005 02:39:24p, Damsel called across the abyss... > >> Carol (vertically challenged) LOL! > >You're too tall? <G> > >Wayne Yes. I haven't yet achieved my goal of being completely round. Right now, I just look like Winnie the Pooh. Or Buddha. Or ready to deliver a large child. Carol -- "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say, 'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_ |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:13:52 -0500, Tony P.
> wrote: > Yeah, there's definitely better chemistry between the two of them. I thought she was another Sharona type character. Didn't see any different sort of chemestry. It wasn't in the script. > The parrot was a bit much though. That was a type of lovebird. <get the connection?> I was hoping the new character would go back and get it for him... after all, the pet shop said it was free. BTW: birds do that sort of thing - except they usually pluck out their feathers. sf |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:37:44 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: > Even deaf and blind have become politically incorrect. Yet they are terms used by those who are dead or blind. sf |
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On 22 Jan 2005 15:21:02 -0600, "Bob"
> wrote: > To be fair, most of the [physically] handicapped people I know refer to > themselves as "gimps." Yes, they most certainly do. sf |
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On Sat 22 Jan 2005 02:48:52p, Damsel called across the abyss...
> On 22 Jan 2005 15:21:02 -0600, "Bob" > > wrote: > >>To be fair, most of the [physically] handicapped people I know refer to >>themselves as "gimps." In fact, the e-mail handle of one of them is >>"Gimpy." Is this one of those cases where it's okay for the people to >>call themselves a term which nobody else can use? (cf. contemporary >>"acceptable" usage of "nigga") > > Good point, Bob. > > Now that I think of it, I am allowed to call myself a nut cake or crazy, > but I'm very hurt if someone else does it. I know I'm providing > ammunition by saying this, but I'm a pro at filtering abusive posters. > > Carol Well, Carol, it's one thing to be a nut and completely something else to be a cracked nut! You know we all love you! Wayne |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:48:52 -0600, Damsel
> wrote: > Now that I think of it, I am allowed to call myself a nut cake or crazy, > but I'm very hurt if someone else does it. Is it still ok to call you a wild and crazy girl? sf |
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On Sat 22 Jan 2005 03:30:28p, sf called across the abyss...
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:37:44 -0500, Dave Smith > > wrote: > >> Even deaf and blind have become politically incorrect. > > Yet they are terms used by those who are dead or blind. > > > sf Yes, and in the deaf community there is a differene between Deaf and deaf. Wayne |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:01:22 -0600, Damsel
> wrote: > On 22 Jan 2005 21:49:15 GMT, Wayne Boatwright > wrote: > > >On Sat 22 Jan 2005 02:39:24p, Damsel called across the abyss... > > > >> Carol (vertically challenged) LOL! > > > >You're too tall? <G> > > > >Wayne > > Yes. I haven't yet achieved my goal of being completely round. Right now, > I just look like Winnie the Pooh. Or Buddha. Or ready to deliver a large > child. > > Carol I have one word for you: Curves! Several women on staff have been dieting and going to curves since Sept and it's showing - all have lost weight and are shaping up nicely. sf |
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>Dave Smith writes:
> >I refer to my bald patch as a solar panel for a sex machine :-) A fancy way of saying you give head. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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On 2005-01-22, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
> On Sat 22 Jan 2005 03:30:28p, sf called across the abyss... > >> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:37:44 -0500, Dave Smith >> > wrote: >> >>> Even deaf and blind have become politically incorrect. >> >> Yet they are terms used by those who are dead or blind. >> >> >> sf > > Yes, and in the deaf community there is a differene between Deaf and deaf. There's most definitely a difference between deaf and dead!! (though they both share the inability to hear ![]() nb |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:33:03 -0800, sf > wrote:
>On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:48:52 -0600, Damsel > wrote: > >> Now that I think of it, I am allowed to call myself a nut cake or crazy, >> but I'm very hurt if someone else does it. > >Is it still ok to call you a wild and crazy girl? Sure, what the hell! ![]() Carol -- "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say, 'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_ |
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On 22 Jan 2005 22:32:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>Well, Carol, it's one thing to be a nut and completely something else to be a >cracked nut! You know we all love you! SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTCH! Carol -- "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say, 'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_ |
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On 22 Jan 2005 22:35:06 GMT, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>Yes, and in the deaf community there is a differene between Deaf and deaf. There are degrees of deafness and of blindness. The terms are understood by a lot of people as absolute. I know someone who's "deaf" but can hear just a little, and I've known "blind" people who can still detect, but not identify objects. 'Tis a complex world in which we live. Carol -- "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say, 'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_ |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:35:21 -0800, sf > wrote:
>I have one word for you: Curves! Several women on staff >have been dieting and going to curves since Sept and it's >showing - all have lost weight and are shaping up nicely. I went to Curves briefly, but I didn't like the fact that you couldn't increase resistance on any of the equipment. Switched over to a gym, and was doing great until financial troubles forces me to terminate my membership. I'd like to do it again, once we get back in the black on everything. Working hard toward that end. Thanks, Carol -- "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say, 'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_ |
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![]() "Damsel" > wrote in message > > There are many long-standing terms in the dictionary. Doesn't make them > right. There are a lot of disabling conditions, not all of them visible, > and not all of them crippling, in the usual sense of the word. That is the beauty of using proper terms. Cripples have a disibility, but not all handicapped people are crippled. Bt if your legs don't work, what is wrong with being called a crippled person when you really are? > > My last job was as a Human Resource Officer for a state agency. > Rehabilitation Services. ![]() > (a person isn't in a wheelchair - they are a person who uses a > wheelchair), > and political correctness is generally a way to offer dignity to someone. > Maybe in some people's opinion. Dignity does not come from a label. It comes from respect. > Nah, I'd just say you're Ed. Hair, or lack of it, is only relevant when > filing a police report. Same with race, hair color, weight, etc. People > are people. Some are good, some are bad, and some are a little of each. > I'm more inclined to identify someone according to their personality > traits > and attitudes than what's on the outside. Exactly. Putting a pretty sounding label does not benefit anyone. The whole PC thing is a farce if you still demean a person in your mind or behind their back. As for being bald, give the choice I'll take it over hair any day. Lot less care needed and scalp does not get mess up when you wear a hat. Watch for sunburn though. |
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Wayne replied to sf:
>>> Even deaf and blind have become politically incorrect. >> >> Yet they are terms used by those who are dead or blind. >> >> >> sf > > Yes, and in the deaf community there is a differene between Deaf and deaf. And a completely different term for "dead." Bob |
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Bob wrote:
> > > Yes, and in the deaf community there is a differene between Deaf and deaf. > > And a completely different term for "dead." "organically inoperative" :-) |
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:48:16 -0800, sf > wrote:
>On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:22:52 -0500, Kate Connally > wrote: > >> He's going to have a new assistant. I read something >> about it in TV Guide, I think. Don't remember the >> details. Not sure if she's a nurse like Sharona. >> Anyway, I'm totally bummer that Sharona is gone. >> Phooey. > >Have you found any reason why she's leaving? She was too >good to fire. I read that she was asking for a *ton* of money, amount not specified, but alluded to parity with Tony. Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA "If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner." -- Duncan Hines To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox" |
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On 2005-01-23, Dave Smith > wrote:
> "organically inoperative" :-) biologically dysfuntional |
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In article >, Sheryl Rosen
> wrote: (snip) > > If someone is stocking up to resell it somehow, I have a huge problem > with it. That's not really a factor with groceries, but I remember > someone (was it Dimitri?) telling a tale of a close out store having > a great deal on Kitchen Aid mixers before Christmas, limit of one per > person, and he and his son-in-law went to buy mixers for 2 people as > gifts, and there was a woman and 3 adult "henchman" who were there to > snatch up mixers, and they were bragging about selling them on ebay. It was Dimitri. Great story. Tuesday Morning. -- -Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Trip Report and pics added 1-13-05 "I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and say,'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner, performance at New York, New York, January 10, 2005. |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:07:41 -0500, "Bob (this one)" >
wrote: >sf wrote: > >> On 20 Jan 2005 23:05:02 -0600, "Bob" >> > wrote: >> >>> zxcvbob (no relation) wrote: >>> >>> > When does the new season start? >>> >>> Tomorrow: Friday, January 20, on USA. > >Last night. I liked it. I've been a fan since the program started. I >liked the Sharona character, but this new one is good, too. > >Pastorio I think the new one is kind of blah, at least in the first episode. I was sorry they went with another single mother with no options -although who else would want the job?- only because it's formulatic for the show. Nancy's right though- how could Monk have focused in on the fish to the exclusion of the rest of the tank to the point of letting the kid take it to school? That's out of character- usually he has a hunch about such things. We'll see how the show develops- hopefully it hasn't jumped the shark. Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! |
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![]() "Curly Sue" > wrote in message ... > Nancy's right though- how could Monk have focused in on the fish to > the exclusion of the rest of the tank to the point of letting the kid > take it to school? That's out of character- usually he has a hunch > about such things. > > We'll see how the show develops- hopefully it hasn't jumped the shark. Same here, it was a gem. If I can figure out the twist of the plot in a nanosecond ... that's not Monk. With any luck they haven't let go of the crack writers of previous years. nancy (hi Sue!) |
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![]() "mslinda" > wrote in message > Yesterday I got stuck behind a pair of those morons who can only buy what > they have cash in their pocket for, get too much and have to have items > removed *one by one* until they get down to an amount they can pay for. If > I knew I had only so much cash to spend, I'd be totalling my take before I > got to the checkout but I guess that never ocurred to these dweebs. > > Linda C. > It is an education issue. If they were smart enough to add it up in their heads, they would probably be smart enough have a better job and could afford to buy what they want. |
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "mslinda" > wrote in message > >>Yesterday I got stuck behind a pair of those morons who can only buy what >>they have cash in their pocket for, get too much and have to have items >>removed *one by one* until they get down to an amount they can pay for. If >>I knew I had only so much cash to spend, I'd be totalling my take before I >>got to the checkout but I guess that never ocurred to these dweebs. >> >>Linda C. >> > > > It is an education issue. If they were smart enough to add it up in their > heads, they would probably be smart enough have a better job and could > afford to buy what they want. > > Some stores have a register that shows a running tab. Sounds as if that is what these guys needed. -- To reply via e-mail please delete 1 c from paccbell |
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