"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in
:

>
> "mslinda" > wrote in message
>> Yesterday I got stuck behind a pair of those morons who can only buy
>> what they have cash in their pocket for, get too much and have to
>> have items removed *one by one* until they get down to an amount they
>> can pay for. If I knew I had only so much cash to spend, I'd be
>> totalling my take before I got to the checkout but I guess that never
>> ocurred to these dweebs.
>>
>> Linda C.
>>
>
> It is an education issue. If they were smart enough to add it up in
> their heads, they would probably be smart enough have a better job and
> could afford to buy what they want.
>

Well, I'd like to think I'm not too dumb! I can add up in my head, am
tertiary educated and have a decent job. Doesn't mean I can afford to buy
what I want (I wish!) <g>.I do, however, have the common sense to add it
up as I go around if I want to make sure I stick to the budget, or if I
have a certain amount of cash on me and don't want to pay in a different
manner.I make it a habit to tally as I go, either using a calculator if I
remembered to throw one in my bag, or using it as an exercise in mental
arithmetic. That way I don't get a shock at the cash register - sometimes
that total gets awfully big awfully quickly!

Unfortunately, common sense isn't all that common! Behaviour that gets
you labelled by others as a moron isn't limited to people who aren't
"smart".

One thing - it's easy enough here to add up as you go as the GST (Goods &
Services Tax) is included in the marked price, so the price on the
item/shelf is the price you pay at the register. I've wondered at times
how easy it is to do when the sales tax is added at the register, which
is what happens in the US isn't it? Or does that differ from state to
state?


Rhonda Anderson
Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

Rhonda Anderson wrote:
>
> One thing - it's easy enough here to add up as you go as the GST (Goods &
> Services Tax) is included in the marked price, so the price on the
> item/shelf is the price you pay at the register. I've wondered at times
> how easy it is to do when the sales tax is added at the register, which
> is what happens in the US isn't it? Or does that differ from state to
> state?
>

It differs from state to state. Here in Indiana, there isn't sales tax
on groceries, except for soda pop and candy. And ready-to-eat foods
from the deli counter, such as complete sandwiches, although that does
vary sometimes, depending on what the ready-to-eat food is.

Sales tax applies to any non-food purchases at the grocery store, for
things like plastic wrap and magazines. The sales tax is 6%, so it's
pretty easy to figure out how much will be due if you're keeping track
of what you're buying.

--
CC

Well, I have to confess Rhonda you are a marvel - I would love to be able to
add up as I shop, but find the multiple calculations that I have to force my
aging brain to do as I shop drives a total right out of my mind - do I buy
coffee on special at 9.99 for 250 grams? or the other special of 500grams
for 18.99, or the not on special of 150 grams for 7.89? or I could buy 5x 50
grams at 1.96 each? ...and that is an easy one!

David

Rhonda Anderson wrote:

>
> One thing - it's easy enough here to add up as you go as the GST (Goods &
> Services Tax) is included in the marked price,

"Rhonda Anderson" > wrote in message
.5...
> "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in
> :
>
>>
>> "mslinda" > wrote in message
>>> Yesterday I got stuck behind a pair of those morons who can only buy
>>> what they have cash in their pocket for, get too much and have to
>>> have items removed *one by one* until they get down to an amount they
>>> can pay for. If I knew I had only so much cash to spend, I'd be
>>> totalling my take before I got to the checkout but I guess that never
>>> ocurred to these dweebs.
>>>
>>> Linda C.
>>>
>>
>> It is an education issue. If they were smart enough to add it up in
>> their heads, they would probably be smart enough have a better job and
>> could afford to buy what they want.
>>
>
> Well, I'd like to think I'm not too dumb! I can add up in my head, am
> tertiary educated and have a decent job. Doesn't mean I can afford to buy
> what I want (I wish!) <g>.I do, however, have the common sense to add it
> up as I go around if I want to make sure I stick to the budget, or if I
> have a certain amount of cash on me and don't want to pay in a different
> manner.I make it a habit to tally as I go, either using a calculator if I
> remembered to throw one in my bag, or using it as an exercise in mental
> arithmetic. That way I don't get a shock at the cash register - sometimes
> that total gets awfully big awfully quickly!
>
> Unfortunately, common sense isn't all that common! Behaviour that gets
> you labelled by others as a moron isn't limited to people who aren't
> "smart".
>
> One thing - it's easy enough here to add up as you go as the GST (Goods &
> Services Tax) is included in the marked price, so the price on the
> item/shelf is the price you pay at the register. I've wondered at times
> how easy it is to do when the sales tax is added at the register,

Trivial if you are numerate and the tax applys to all articles.

> which is what happens in the US isn't it?

Yes.

> Or does that differ from state to state?

The tax rate does.

"Rod Speed" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Rhonda Anderson" > wrote in message
> .5...
>> "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>>
>>> "mslinda" > wrote in message
>>>> Yesterday I got stuck behind a pair of those morons who can only buy
>>>> what they have cash in their pocket for, get too much and have to
>>>> have items removed *one by one* until they get down to an amount they
>>>> can pay for. If I knew I had only so much cash to spend, I'd be
>>>> totalling my take before I got to the checkout but I guess that never
>>>> ocurred to these dweebs.
>>>>
>>>> Linda C.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It is an education issue. If they were smart enough to add it up in
>>> their heads, they would probably be smart enough have a better job and
>>> could afford to buy what they want.
>>>
>>
>> Well, I'd like to think I'm not too dumb! I can add up in my head, am
>> tertiary educated and have a decent job. Doesn't mean I can afford to buy
>> what I want (I wish!) <g>.I do, however, have the common sense to add it
>> up as I go around if I want to make sure I stick to the budget, or if I
>> have a certain amount of cash on me and don't want to pay in a different
>> manner.I make it a habit to tally as I go, either using a calculator if I
>> remembered to throw one in my bag, or using it as an exercise in mental
>> arithmetic. That way I don't get a shock at the cash register - sometimes
>> that total gets awfully big awfully quickly!
>>
>> Unfortunately, common sense isn't all that common! Behaviour that gets
>> you labelled by others as a moron isn't limited to people who aren't
>> "smart".
>>
>> One thing - it's easy enough here to add up as you go as the GST (Goods &
>> Services Tax) is included in the marked price, so the price on the
>> item/shelf is the price you pay at the register. I've wondered at times
>> how easy it is to do when the sales tax is added at the register,
>
> Trivial if you are numerate and the tax applys to all articles.
>
>> which is what happens in the US isn't it?
>
> Yes.
>

Tax does not apply to all articles in all states. Here in North Carolina
most grocery items are exempt from sales tax but other items you'd by at a
grocery store, such as paper products, are not.

BTW it is silly to think that the ability to add things up in your head has
anything to do with intelligence.


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

Peter Aitken > wrote in message
. com...
> Rod Speed > wrote
>> Rhonda Anderson > wrote
>>> Edwin Pawlowski > wrote
>>>> mslinda > wrote

>>>>> Yesterday I got stuck behind a pair of those morons who can only buy what
>>>>> they have cash in their pocket for, get too much and have to have items
>>>>> removed *one by one* until they get down to an amount they can pay for. If
>>>>> I knew I had only so much cash to spend, I'd be totalling my take before I
>>>>> got to the checkout but I guess that never ocurred to these dweebs.

>>>> It is an education issue. If they were smart enough to add it up in their
>>>> heads, they would probably be smart enough have a better job and could
>>>> afford to buy what they want.

>>> Well, I'd like to think I'm not too dumb! I can add up in my head, am
>>> tertiary educated and have a decent job. Doesn't mean I can afford to buy
>>> what I want (I wish!) <g>.I do, however, have the common sense to add it
>>> up as I go around if I want to make sure I stick to the budget, or if I
>>> have a certain amount of cash on me and don't want to pay in a different
>>> manner.I make it a habit to tally as I go, either using a calculator if I
>>> remembered to throw one in my bag, or using it as an exercise in mental
>>> arithmetic. That way I don't get a shock at the cash register - sometimes
>>> that total gets awfully big awfully quickly!

>>> Unfortunately, common sense isn't all that common! Behaviour that gets
>>> you labelled by others as a moron isn't limited to people who aren't
>>> "smart".

>>> One thing - it's easy enough here to add up as you go as the GST (Goods &
>>> Services Tax) is included in the marked price, so the price on the
>>> item/shelf is the price you pay at the register. I've wondered at times how
>>> easy it is to do when the sales tax is added at the register,

>> Trivial if you are numerate and the tax applys to all articles.

>>> which is what happens in the US isn't it?

>> Yes.

> Tax does not apply to all articles in all states.

Never said it did. I used the word 'if' for a reason.

> Here in North Carolina most grocery items are exempt from sales tax but other
> items you'd by at a grocery store, such as paper products, are not.

Yes, that is an example of a state where it isnt trivial to do.

> BTW it is silly to think that the ability to add things up in your head has
> anything to do with intelligence.

I didnt see anyone even mention intelligence in this subthread.

Smart aint the same thing as intelligence.

"Rabbit" > wrote in message
...
> .
> > Then when the cashier tells they seemed stunned when it comes time to do
> > their
> > part of the transaction. They fumble with the purse, fumble with their
> > wallet,
> > eventually find where they hid their money. Then they have to get out
> > their
> > change purse and search around for the correct change.
>
> I will admit, one day I actually said to the person ahead of me in the
line,
> "What, did you think this was the day that groceries were free?"

Which makes you one of the rude people in a grocery store. Politeness
requires that you wait quietly for your turn, even if the people in front of
you are taking longer than you deem appropriate.

A

You forgot one:

People who wear too much cologne when they shop.

Carol <EG>


On 24 Jan 2005 14:11:32 -0800, "Fifo" > wrote:

>I am sorry, are we trying to create a complete list of human pettiness
>that can possibly occur in the general vicinity of a grocery store. So
>far, we have the following supreme examples of extrme pettiness:
>
>1. Kids misbehaving\talking\not talking\eating\generally-being-kids are
>irritating\disgusting\unschooled
>2. Moms with kids are parking-space-hawking\rude\children-bearing
>creatures
>3. The disabled are
>parking-space-hawking\disability-faking\morbidly-obese
>special-status-abusers who occasionnally also double up as pregnant
>women with kids (see #1 and #2)
>4. Express-line cheating fellons are not unlike serial killers who get
>out of jail on a technicality
>5. Arithmetically and financially challanged people are dweebes
>6. Food-stamp-recepients are french-cheese-munching leeches
>
>It is a very good start and an incredibly productive discussion (522
>posts and running) with some outstanding and very crteative
>contributions - it never occured to me that some of those things can be
>irritating.
>
>Should we maybe add:
>
>- All people who buy food we would never buy?
>- All foreigners - shouldn't they learn proper English and go to their
>enthnic shops in the first place. Plus I am sure they are speaking
>about me behind my back in their impossible la-la-language?
>- All people who buy too many items and block the line for like 5
>minutes?
>- All the people who buy too few items just so they can sneak throuhg
>the express line?
>- All people who pay with a check
>- All people who pay with a credit card (groceries on credit !!!!) -
>either white thrash or trying to cheat the poor airline into giving
>them miles
>- All people who ask for checkout help
>- All people who have questions
>- All married people who keep parading the fact that they are married
>while we are not?
>- All people who are not married but keep parading their girlfriends
>and boyfriends while even our dog ran away?
>- All people who buy frozen dinners instead of going to French
>restaurants
>- All people who are poor - that's deffinetely their fault
>- All people who are rich - can't they order catering instead of
>further crowding the supermarket?
>- In general all the people who are not me - there is something wrong
>with everyone who's not me (and the feeling is reciprocated).

In article >, (Rhonda Anderson) writes:

| One thing - it's easy enough here to add up as you go as the GST (Goods &
| Services Tax) is included in the marked price, so the price on the
| item/shelf is the price you pay at the register. I've wondered at times
| how easy it is to do when the sales tax is added at the register, which
| is what happens in the US isn't it? Or does that differ from state to
| state?

Both policy and rate(s) vary considerably from state to state. Some
states give the merchant options, so it can in theory differ from store
to store. Massachusetts has a relatively simple general 5% sales and use
tax, yet there are still two possibilities. As a merchant I may show
the price of an item as $1.00 and invoice you for $1.00 plus a tax of $0.05
provided the tax is clearly and separately itemized as such. I then remit
that tax to the state. Alternately, I may show the price of an item as
$1.00 and charge you only $1.00 for the item. I must still remit $0.05
to the state. This is rarely done, but it is not unheard of. I may _not_
show the price of an item as $1.05, remit $0.05 to the state, and keep
$1.00 for myself.

There are special cases relating both to the type of merchandise and to
the type of transaction.

Massachusetts does not tax sales of unprepared foods, but they do have
a meals tax which is coincidentally also 5%. Thus while most food at
a grocery store would not be taxed, a prepared sandwich would be. Some
items (e.g., a cooked chicken) are sufficiently ambiguous that I couldn't
say whether they are taxed or not--and I think I've seen it go both ways.

Massachusetts does not tax clothing unless the cost is over a certain
threshold that makes it a "luxury item."

Massachusetts does not tax certain products used in agriculture. A bag of
lime is never taxed even if purchased at retail by a consumer, though a bag
of fertilizer that could be used on a lawn may be taxed. Some pesticides
are not taxed at all, some seem to be taxed only in lower concentrations,
and some are taxed in all forms.

Massachusetts does not tax sales for resale (that's pretty standard) but
they also do not tax sales of certain components that would otherwise be
taxable if those components are to become part of certain manufacturering
equipment. This latter has its own line item on the sales/use tax return.

(I leaving out the rules for coupons and other discounts which recently
changed to be both less taxing and more complicated.)

In spite of the relative simplicity of Massachusetts's sales/use tax, pros
still seem to get it wrong. I've had company accounting departments refuse
to pay me sales tax because they are incorporated and "don't pay sales tax
on anything." Being unable to justify that position they switch to an
argument that they don't pay sales tax because they have a resale certificate.
Only when I point out that they really shouldn't be reselling the (explicitly)
non-transferable license do they relent...

Other states have more complicated systems including city/local sales taxes
that add to the state rate. I don't know if there are any states that allow
local jurisdictions to define the taxability of a transaction for local
purposes differently from the state, but I wouldn't be surprised if they can
at least exempt items in cases where the entire local tax is optional for
the locality.

For years there have been rumblings about simplification/unification of state
sales/use tax systems so that the federal government can enact legislation
requiring all sellers to collect tax from customers in all states without a
horrible political backlash. It's going to be interesting to see whether
states/localities will be willing to give up their special cases in return for
additional revenues that may turn out to be part of a larger zero-sum game.

Dan Lanciani
ddl@danlan.*com

>> Or does that differ from state to state?
>
>The tax rate does.

.. . . as does the tax policy.

"Damsel" > wrote in message
...
> You forgot one:
>
> People who wear too much cologne when they shop.
>
> Carol <EG>


Agreed. But not just shopping - anywhere. Concerts are a sore point - old
ladies (usually) who put on the perfume with a ladle. Barf! Perfume is meant
to be subtle, not a cloud of stench that radiates 20 feet in all directions.

--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

On Mon 24 Jan 2005 03:57:46p, Damsel wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> You forgot one:
>
> People who wear too much cologne when they shop.
>
> Carol <EG>
>

And at the office!

Wayne

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:42:59 GMT, "Peter Aitken" >
wrote:

>"Damsel" > wrote in message
.. .
>> You forgot one:
>>
>> People who wear too much cologne when they shop.
>>
>> Carol <EG>
>
>Agreed. But not just shopping - anywhere. Concerts are a sore point - old
>ladies (usually) who put on the perfume with a ladle. Barf! Perfume is meant
>to be subtle, not a cloud of stench that radiates 20 feet in all directions.

Not all cologne is subtle. There's one called Shalimar that blossoms out
in all directions. Thankfully, I love the fragrance. Emeraude does the
same thing.

Or men who think that dumping a whole bottle of English Leather on before
leaving the house, when even one drop is too much. English Leather is
Damsel-Repellant.

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Damsel wrote:
> >> People who wear too much cologne when they shop.
> >>
> >> Carol <EG>
> >
>
> Or men who think that dumping a whole bottle of English Leather on
before
> leaving the house, when even one drop is too much. English Leather
is
> Damsel-Repellant.
>
> Carol
> --

I understand we disagree but I don't see why you had to personnaly
attack me like that. I believe English Leather and Old Spice to be the
choice of a real man and I think most ladies would agree. My online
girlfriend for example has never mentioned it.

On 24 Jan 2005 16:22:31 -0800, "Fifo" > wrote:

>Damsel wrote:
>
>> English Leather is Damsel-Repellant.
>
>I understand we disagree but I don't see why you had to personnaly
>attack me like that. I believe English Leather and Old Spice to be the
>choice of a real man and I think most ladies would agree. My online
>girlfriend for example has never mentioned it.

I apologize for stomping all over your feelings with cleats on my shoes.
Actually, I like Old Spice. But I'm from the Brut generation. Like a moth
to a flame. <G>

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Damsel wrote:
> I apologize for stomping all over your feelings with cleats on my
shoes.
> Actually, I like Old Spice. But I'm from the Brut generation. Like
a moth
> to a flame. <G>
>
> Carol


I sometimes make my own proprietary blend by mixing both with a touch
of liquid smoke and a drop of moustache gell. I've seen women faint
when I walk by. Well... most cats faint too and the neighbour's dog ran
away to Argentina but the point remains - it has an impact.

>> I will admit, one day I actually said to the person ahead of me in the
> line,
>> "What, did you think this was the day that groceries were free?"
>
> Which makes you one of the rude people in a grocery store. Politeness
> requires that you wait quietly for your turn, even if the people in front
> of
> you are taking longer than you deem appropriate.

Ah, but darlin', you mistake "taking longer" with "being an idiot". "Taking
longer" would mean that the person in front of me was having difficulty
paying quickly.

"Being an idiot" means that you stand there, looking blankly out in space
for several minutes while the cashier rings in your order, and only after
being told that you owe money do you start the long, drawn-out process of
hauling up your purse, putting it on the counter, opening it up, fishing for
the wallet, taking it out, putting the purse down, opening the wallet, and
searching for the money.

There are times when it is important to be polite. There are other times
when hitting someone upside the head with a clue-by-four is considered a
necessary evil for the good of all mankind.

Rabbit

Rabbit wrote:

> "Being an idiot" means that you stand there, looking blankly out in space
> for several minutes while the cashier rings in your order, and only after
> being told that you owe money do you start the long, drawn-out process of
> hauling up your purse, putting it on the counter, opening it up, fishing for
> the wallet, taking it out, putting the purse down, opening the wallet, and
> searching for the money.

I had the ultimate experience with that one day last year. I went to a Tim
Hortons coffee shop on my break. I was driving a large van, found three empty
spaces in a row, pulled up and started to back in (making for a safe and easy
exit). I was part way into the space when a young lady pulled around me so fast
I barely saw her, and sure didn't expect someone to go drive behind a backing
vehicle. She and I are headed to the door at the same time. Some hold guy holds
the door open for his aged wife. The young lady pushed her way through. Now she
is at the front of the line. She orders two dozen donuts, picking them out one
at a time with long moments of indecision before each selection. The lady on
the counter rang up the sale, and then customer decided she also wanted a half
dozen muffins, once again unable to make up her mind which kinds to get. The
counter lady rings up the total and tells her. The customer has a stunned look
on her face, as if surprised that she was expected to pay. I don't know what
she had in that purse, but it took a lot of fumbling to get the wallet out. Not
enough money there, so then she has to get out her change purse, count out her
change. There's not enough. So now she has to decide what to give back. I ended
up feeling sorry for her. I didn't know that people that stupid were allowed out
on their own.

Fifo replied:

>> Actually, I like Old Spice. But I'm from the Brut generation. Like
>> a moth to a flame. <G>
>
> I sometimes make my own proprietary blend by mixing both with a touch
> of liquid smoke and a drop of moustache gell. I've seen women faint
> when I walk by. Well... most cats faint too and the neighbour's dog ran
> away to Argentina but the point remains - it has an impact.

Reminds me of the Steve Martin shtick:

"I put a tuna fish sandwich under each arm, maybe one or two behind the ear,
and I don't smell like any other guy!"

Bob

In > Rabbit wrote:

> Ah, but darlin', you mistake "taking longer" with "being an idiot".
> "Taking longer" would mean that the person in front of me was having
> difficulty paying quickly.
>
> "Being an idiot" means that you stand there, looking blankly out in
> space for several minutes while the cashier rings in your order, and
> only after being told that you owe money do you start the long, drawn-
> out process of hauling up your purse, putting it on the counter,
> opening it up, fishing for the wallet, taking it out, putting the
> purse down, opening the wallet, and searching for the money.
>
> There are times when it is important to be polite. There are other
> times when hitting someone upside the head with a clue-by-four is
> considered a necessary evil for the good of all mankind.


I have to agree with you between 'taking longer' vs 'being an idiot'.
My wife tells me it reminds her of her youth when she worked at an
outdoor icecream stand on the beach. Extremely long lineups in
extremely hot weather and the same guy would stand in line with his four
kids waiting for their turn. When they finally came to the front for
their turn to order he would boldly say 'ok kids, now what do you want?'

Like, what have they been talking about for the last half hour???

--
Cheers

Dennis

Remove 'Elle-Kabong' to reply

"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
om...

> What is more demeaning than the "human resources" department instead of
> the personnel department? Are you merely a resource or are you a person?

Heh ... that's precisely what employees are called today. Any resources
taking
a half day before Christmas, blah blah blah.

nancy

"Fifo" > wrote in message
> Should we maybe add:
>
> - All people who buy food we would never buy?
> - All foreigners - shouldn't they learn proper English and go to their
> enthnic shops in the first place. Plus I am sure they are speaking
> about me behind my back in their impossible la-la-language?
> - All people who buy too many items and block the line for like 5
> minutes?
> - All the people who buy too few items just so they can sneak throuhg
> the express line?
> - All people who pay with a check
> - All people who pay with a credit card (groceries on credit !!!!) -
> either white thrash or trying to cheat the poor airline into giving
> them miles
> - All people who ask for checkout help
> - All people who have questions
> - All married people who keep parading the fact that they are married
> while we are not?
> - All people who are not married but keep parading their girlfriends
> and boyfriends while even our dog ran away?
> - All people who buy frozen dinners instead of going to French
> restaurants
> - All people who are poor - that's deffinetely their fault
> - All people who are rich - can't they order catering instead of
> further crowding the supermarket?
> - In general all the people who are not me - there is something wrong
> with everyone who's not me (and the feeling is reciprocated).
>

Great list. You can also add people that sit home all morning and then go
to the deli at noon for six slices of bologna when workers are on the lunch
time trying to get a sandwich.

> Damsel wrote:
>> >> People who wear too much cologne when they shop.
>> >>
>> >> Carol <EG>
>> >
>>
>> Or men who think that dumping a whole bottle of English Leather on
> before
>> leaving the house, when even one drop is too much. English Leather
> is
>> Damsel-Repellant.
>>
>> Carol

I prefer people that shower regularly

In article <T0cId.85227$Jk5.31505@lakeread01>, "Mike Pearce"
> wrote:

> "Melba's Jammin'" wrote in message
> ...
> > "Mike Pearce" wrote:
> >
> >> Well, I had an enjoyable trip to the supermarket just a few hours
> >> ago. I was walking down the aisle in the supermarket and a woman
> >> wearing a short skirt reached over her cart to grab something and I
> >> caught a glimpse of her panties. That made me happy.
> >>
> >> Sorry, I couldn't resist. It really did happen.
> >> -Mike
> >
> > And I'll bet you STILL think it was accidental on her part.
>
> Things like that don't happen to me unless they are accidental.
>
> -Mike

Maybe your luck has changed. "-)
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> 2005 Pirohy Marathon pics added 1-23-05.
"I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and
say,'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner,
performance at New York, New York, January 10, 2005.

On 24 Jan 2005 16:59:42 -0800, "Fifo" > wrote:

>Damsel wrote:
>
>> Actually, I like Old Spice. But I'm from the Brut generation. Like
>>a moth to a flame. <G>
>
>I sometimes make my own proprietary blend by mixing both with a touch
>of liquid smoke and a drop of moustache gell. I've seen women faint
>when I walk by. Well... most cats faint too and the neighbour's dog ran
>away to Argentina but the point remains - it has an impact.

Oh baby, where have you been all my life?

Carol, chuckling
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:15:08 -0500, Dave Smith >
wrote:

>Rabbit wrote:
>
>> "Being an idiot" means that you stand there, looking blankly out in space
>> for several minutes while the cashier rings in your order, and only after
>> being told that you owe money do you start the long, drawn-out process of
>> hauling up your purse, putting it on the counter, opening it up, fishing for
>> the wallet, taking it out, putting the purse down, opening the wallet, and
>> searching for the money.
>
>I had the ultimate experience with that one day last year. I went to a Tim
>Hortons coffee shop on my break. I was driving a large van, found three empty
>spaces in a row, pulled up and started to back in (making for a safe and easy
>exit). I was part way into the space when a young lady pulled around me so fast
>I barely saw her, and sure didn't expect someone to go drive behind a backing
>vehicle. She and I are headed to the door at the same time. Some hold guy holds
>the door open for his aged wife. The young lady pushed her way through. Now she
>is at the front of the line. She orders two dozen donuts, picking them out one
>at a time with long moments of indecision before each selection. The lady on
>the counter rang up the sale, and then customer decided she also wanted a half
>dozen muffins, once again unable to make up her mind which kinds to get. The
>counter lady rings up the total and tells her. The customer has a stunned look
>on her face, as if surprised that she was expected to pay. I don't know what
>she had in that purse, but it took a lot of fumbling to get the wallet out. Not
>enough money there, so then she has to get out her change purse, count out her
>change. There's not enough. So now she has to decide what to give back. I ended
>up feeling sorry for her. I didn't know that people that stupid were allowed out
>on their own.

That stupid, that mentally impaired, or that medicated are other options.
I live this every day of my life, me being the "stupid" one. You never
know what's going on in someone else's head. Or why.

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

"Melba's Jammin'" wrote in message
...
> "Mike Pearce" wrote:
>
>> "Melba's Jammin'" wrote in message
>> > "Mike Pearce" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Well, I had an enjoyable trip to the supermarket just a few hours
>> >> ago. I was walking down the aisle in the supermarket and a woman
>> >> wearing a short skirt reached over her cart to grab something and I
>> >> caught a glimpse of her panties. That made me happy.
>> >>
>> >
>> > And I'll bet you STILL think it was accidental on her part.
>>
>> Things like that don't happen to me unless they are accidental.
>>
>> -Mike
>
> Maybe your luck has changed. "-)

I can only hope.

-Mike

In > posted on
Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:55:01 -0500, Rabbit wrote:

>>> I will admit, one day I actually said to the person ahead of me in the
>> line,
>>> "What, did you think this was the day that groceries were free?"
>>
>> Which makes you one of the rude people in a grocery store. Politeness
>> requires that you wait quietly for your turn, even if the people in front
>> of
>> you are taking longer than you deem appropriate.
>
>Ah, but darlin', you mistake "taking longer" with "being an idiot". "Taking
>longer" would mean that the person in front of me was having difficulty
>paying quickly.
>
>"Being an idiot" means that you stand there, looking blankly out in space
>for several minutes while the cashier rings in your order, and only after
>being told that you owe money do you start the long, drawn-out process of
>hauling up your purse, putting it on the counter, opening it up, fishing for
>the wallet, taking it out, putting the purse down, opening the wallet, and
>searching for the money.

Here I would have to totally agree with "Rabbit". She is >
hereby authorized to print out this post and frame it for
future reference. Just as proof that I sometimes agree with
a post.

>
>There are times when it is important to be polite. There are other times
>when hitting someone upside the head with a clue-by-four is considered a
>necessary evil for the good of all mankind.

Possibly true, but this does require reasoned judgment, not
berserker emotional reactions, hence it is usually not
required on any of the above groups.

With the exception of correcting people who accuse others of
insulting others sex, gender, religion, or accusing others
of being liars, of course! There are exceptions to every
general rule!


>
>Rabbit

Regards,
"nilkids"

:-)

Damsel wrote:
> Oh baby, where have you been all my life?
>
> Carol, chuckling
> --


I was waiting in line at the supermarket stuck behind a guy who kept
trying to pay with his library card. Maybe I should have abandoned the
packet of beef jerky and the copy of FHM magazine and gone out in the
vast wilderness of people and parking spaces to meet you. But then
again it's a matter of principle - if we yield to one library
card-holder next thing we know, monthly bus-pass holders will want the
same privilleges.

On 25 Jan 2005 09:37:43 -0800, "Fifo" > wrote:

>Damsel wrote:
>> Oh baby, where have you been all my life?
>>
>> Carol, chuckling
>
>I was waiting in line at the supermarket stuck behind a guy who kept
>trying to pay with his library card. Maybe I should have abandoned the
>packet of beef jerky and the copy of FHM magazine and gone out in the
>vast wilderness of people and parking spaces to meet you. But then
>again it's a matter of principle - if we yield to one library
>card-holder next thing we know, monthly bus-pass holders will want the
>same privilleges.

I frequently try to pay for things with my driver's license. So you were
just in the wrong line. You were supposed to make your purchase in the
driver's license line, not the library card line. Sheesh! Don't you know
ANYTHING about shopping?

Carol wanders away, muttering to herself
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Damsel wrote:

>
> I frequently try to pay for things with my driver's license. So you
were
> just in the wrong line. You were supposed to make your purchase in
the
> driver's license line, not the library card line. Sheesh! Don't you
know
> ANYTHING about shopping?
>

Carol:

I am always in the wrong line. In fact when they were passing out
brains, good looks and good fortunes I was lined up in the line for
"Change of address requests" - it just seemed the shortest. Which is
why now I am neither smart, nor good looking and completely out of luck
but I have a special talent for always receiving my forwarded mail when
I move.

On 25 Jan 2005 11:11:42 -0800, "Fifo" > wrote:

>Carol:
>
>I am always in the wrong line. In fact when they were passing out
>brains, good looks and good fortunes I was lined up in the line for
>"Change of address requests" - it just seemed the shortest. Which is
>why now I am neither smart, nor good looking and completely out of luck
>but I have a special talent for always receiving my forwarded mail when
>I move.

Hey Fifo (I think of accounting every time I see your name), have you
considered a career in comedy, or do we get you all to ourselves?

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Damsel wrote:
> On 25 Jan 2005 11:11:42 -0800, "Fifo" > wrote:
>
> >Carol:
> >
> >I am always in the wrong line. In fact when they were passing out
> >brains, good looks and good fortunes I was lined up in the line for
> >"Change of address requests" - it just seemed the shortest. Which is
> >why now I am neither smart, nor good looking and completely out of
luck
> >but I have a special talent for always receiving my forwarded mail
when
> >I move.
>
> Hey Fifo (I think of accounting every time I see your name), have you
> considered a career in comedy, or do we get you all to ourselves?
>

Actually my conversation skills are zero and null and account for a
complete lack of any friends (which is why I am here). The last time
anyone thought I was funny was when I fell off the chair during a job
interview and banged my head on a radiator frame. Unfortunately that
would make for a very short piece if I try to present it at a comedy
club.

>> but the "expectant mothers" or "customers with children" ones.
>> for some reason these spots bug the crap out of me.
>
> Report back when you're in your 8th or 9th month or have
> more than one small child to get in and out of your car for
> whatever reason - it doesn't need to be grocery shopping.
> My husband can barely handle one.
>
> Regarding mothers with children in the grocery stores: I've
> been one of them and believe me: I would have gladly NOT
> have them with me, but in the real world it's often not an
> option.
>
> sf

I cannot, for the life of me, figure out *why* someone would think that they
should be rewarded because they were able to successfully complete
intercourse, and reproduce. Ah, perhaps reproduction is their greatest
accomplishment.

GM wrote:
>
> I cannot, for the life of me, figure out *why* someone would think
that they
> should be rewarded because they were able to successfully complete
> intercourse, and reproduce. Ah, perhaps reproduction is their
greatest
> accomplishment.

Not all want to be rewarded. As your mom can tell you, some actually
quite regret it and would rather not talk about it. You are just being
mean, dude, why?

GM wrote:
>
> I cannot, for the life of me, figure out *why* someone would think that they
> should be rewarded because they were able to successfully complete
> intercourse, and reproduce.



Not many people want to be rewarded, but most all
of us would prefer NOT to be punished for it.

gloria p

On 25 Jan 2005 14:59:06 -0800, "Fifo" > wrote:

>Actually my conversation skills are zero and null and account for a
>complete lack of any friends (which is why I am here). The last time
>anyone thought I was funny was when I fell off the chair during a job
>interview and banged my head on a radiator frame. Unfortunately that
>would make for a very short piece if I try to present it at a comedy
>club.

I'm worthless in person too! It's a small world.

I think that there are a lot of us introverted types on Usenet and the IRC.
Here, it's safe to be the person you really are without exhausting yourself
emotionally. Interaction with humans tires me out very quickly.

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Someone, way back in a thread full of rancor, posted:

> >>>For instance, suppose the scheduled break is from 1000 to
> >>>1030. Maybe some idiot on a radio station has suggested
> >>>that there is a shortage of toilet paper or something, so
> >>>everyone mobs the store at this period.

Advise them that sanitary napkins are more useful than TP.

>> >>>For instance, suppose the scheduled break is from 1000 to
>> >>>1030. Maybe some idiot on a radio station has suggested
>> >>>that there is a shortage of toilet paper or something, so
>> >>>everyone mobs the store at this period.

That was actually the work of Johnny Carson. People were insane, stocking
up on TP.

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

"Fifo" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> GM wrote:
>>
>> I cannot, for the life of me, figure out *why* someone would think
> that they
>> should be rewarded because they were able to successfully complete
>> intercourse, and reproduce. Ah, perhaps reproduction is their
> greatest
>> accomplishment.
>
> Not all want to be rewarded. As your mom can tell you, some actually
> quite regret it and would rather not talk about it. You are just being
> mean, dude, why?

I'm not being mean, I'm being fair. I see no reason for someone to be issued
privileges because they were able to get knocked up.