When I was in Panama a while ago, I visited a coffee plantation in Boquete,
a lovely little town in the mountains in north-west part of the country. The
coffee was really good, among the best I have had. They are finally making
their goods available for order online.

http://www.ruizcoffee.com/

Highly recommended.

--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:54:22 -0500, Scott >
wrote:

>In article >,
> "L" > wrote:
>
>> Smells like SPAM, not really good coffee
>
>
>If you'd bothered to do the slightest bit of research, you'd have
>discovered that Peter has a long history of posting and participation in
>r.f.c. and has no connection with the company he posted about.

In defense of those in alt.coffee; we get a fair share of spammers
using the same type of format in their posts..."Hey look at this
terrific company I found, etc." Plus we're jumpy from all the
caffeine.


www.hobcoffeeroasters.com
Hill of Beans Coffee Roasters
Cleveland, Ohio

L wrote:

>
> Smells like SPAM, not really good coffee
>
>
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All this jumping on any post that could possibly with both eyes
slanted be marginally off topic or commercial and labelling them spam
is beginning to be tiresome. In the near future people will become
tired off the aggressiveness and stop posting.

If you don't find the subject interesting to you just walk away from
it. I found the same with the "Quality espresso" thread. Yes, a
commercial post, but interesting, and if replied to in a courteous
manner would possibly end in the OP giving an insight into the
commercial espresso machine world. Same with this thread. A post
from a known contributor with useful information.

Think I'll start some new threads for you people to jump on...

--
Regards,
Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
Gold blend)
swap Z for above characters in email address to reply

DoublEE wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:54:22 -0500, Scott >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> > "L" > wrote:
> >
> >> Smells like SPAM, not really good coffee
> >
> >
> >If you'd bothered to do the slightest bit of research, you'd have
> >discovered that Peter has a long history of posting and
participation in
> >r.f.c. and has no connection with the company he posted about.
>
> In defense of those in alt.coffee; we get a fair share of spammers
> using the same type of format in their posts..."Hey look at this
> terrific company I found, etc." Plus we're jumpy from all the
> caffeine.


That's the hazards of cross-posting. Peter's a well-known figure in
RFC, but that same apparently isn't true for alt.coffee. We (RFC) also
see lots of that type spamming. I do think "L" there was a bit too
quick, usually a google check on the person in question is enough,
unless it's one of the boneheads that posts a "look at the web site I
just found" while using an email address from the URL!

Anyway, isn't all coffee the same? Just get some instant. What? Why's
everybody staring at me like that? Ow! Cut it out!




Brian

Peter Aitken wrote:
>>
> http://www.ruizcoffee.com/

lemme second this emotion. those of you at the exchange cupping with me
last year may recall one of the coffees we cupped at the specialty
table was a boquete (from ruiz), and i believe that don s' esp. fine
boquete is also a ruiz.

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:44:24 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
> wrote:

>"L" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> On 19-Jan-2005, "Peter Aitken" > wrote:
>>
>>> And you're a damned idiot. Just because you are the kind of sleaze who
>>> would
>>> lie on the newsgroup to promote a product does not mean that others are.
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter Aitken
>>
>> My, you are a pleasant fellow, aren't you? Why are you so defensive?
>>
>> Please provide a specific reference to any posting I have made that
>> appeared
>> to be SPAM.
>>
>>
>
>I am not being defensive. I am annoyed when some chucklehead on the newgroup
>accuses me of spamming with no evidence.
>
>I never claimed you made postied spam. My point was that people tend to
>suspect others of things that they themselves would do. You accused me of
>spamming the group on exactly zero evidence - why?
>
>I am trying to provide useful information. You are making unfounded
>accusations. Hence you are a damned idiot.
On another newsgroup (triangle.dining), you incorrectly suggested that
another poster was doing as you are accused of here. You said...

>"Such a blatantly fake plug - obviously not a real personal opinion.
>What are you getting, a couple of free burgers to lie to your friends
>and the newsgroup? Shame on you."

While I feel certain that your coffee recommendation was sincere your
indignant reaction seems overwrought, since you have leveled the same
charge at others..

In any case, accusing someone of spamming is pointless. If they are
doing so, they won't read your post anyway.

Peter Aitken wrote:
> When I was in Panama a while ago, I visited a coffee plantation in
Boquete,
> a lovely little town in the mountains in north-west part of the
country. The
> coffee was really good, among the best I have had. They are finally
making
> their goods available for order online.
>
> http://www.ruizcoffee.com/
>
> Highly recommended.
>
> --
> Peter Aitken
>
> Remove the crap from my email address before using.

Peter:
Opened the RUiz site and surprise surprise they have arabica/typica
beans and not those high yield/low flavor beans found in much of CA.
Do they sell green beans to importers in this country?

Also how was traveling in Panama - beautiful country - have not been
there in years - now that CR is getting over run - may return to Panama
for my next thaw out vac.
Thanks for posting this tidbit on travel and coffee.

On 19 Jan 2005 14:05:20 -0800, "Default User"
> wrote:
>
>Anyway, isn't all coffee the same? Just get some instant. What? Why's
>everybody staring at me like that? Ow! Cut it out!

Oh boy. This thread is about to explode. ; )


www.hobcoffeeroasters.com
Hill of Beans Coffee Roasters
Cleveland, Ohio

Relax Peter...its only coffee.....maybe you should not drink so
much....sounds like you need some relaxing to do...


Charles

Far as I can tell, someone wrote:

>When I was in Panama a while ago, I visited a coffee plantation in Boquete,
>a lovely little town in the mountains in north-west part of the country. The
>coffee was really good, among the best I have had. They are finally making
>their goods available for order online.

I myself am buying Cafe de Boquete (both Ruiz and Virginia Estate) from
another distributor here in Pensacola. I think it's pretty darned good
coffee.

His name is Ricardo Krause. I was connected to him through a phone call
from the manager of the local Small Business Developement Center, Dan
Cavanaugh, who helped me get started. Ricardo's dad, whom I've met
twice in my bagel shop, exports it to his son, who sells it locally to
me and several other shops, including the Pensacola Bad Ass Coffee Co.
He also sells other Panamanian products, moslty various hot pepper
sauces and beans.

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:16:31 GMT, "L" > wrote:

<snip>

>> http://www.ruizcoffee.com/
>>
>> Highly recommended.
>>
>> --
>> Peter Aitken
>
>Smells like SPAM, not really good coffee

Peter has been posting to rec.food.cooking for years. I can vouch for
what is assuredly good intentions, not that he needs my endorsement.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA


"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

In article >,
DoublEE > wrote:

> In defense of those in alt.coffee; we get a fair share of spammers
> using the same type of format in their posts..."Hey look at this
> terrific company I found, etc."


Certainly, and I've done my share of revealing such fraud. But I don't
simply look at such a post and say, "hey, it's spam." I check the
domains whois info to find a connection, or I look up the poster's past
history in Google Groups.

Five seconds work would have shown that it wasn't spam. It is, after
all, possible that people might actually want to post about a business
they like. Posting about PIDs isn't the *sole* purpose of a.c., right?


--
to respond (OT only), change "spamless.invalid" to "optonline.net"

<http://www.thecoffeefaq.com/>

"L" > wrote in message
...
>

>> their goods available for order online.
>>
>> http://www.ruizcoffee.com/
>>
>> Highly recommended.
>>
>> --
>> Peter Aitken
>
> Smells like SPAM, not really good coffee
>

Nope, Peter has been posting on RFC for years. If he says it is good
coffee, it probably is.

I have to agree this coffee is exceptional this past year it is a little
bright in espresso though
brings out the lemon citrus in it, floral and zesty kind of a central
American Yirg.
Both the Lerida Estate and the La Berlina Estate are from the Ruiz family I
have some info on the La Berlina farm
on my web site, http://www.coffeewholesalers.com/pan...amaberlina.htm

This coffee is greatly under appreciated, I think anyway.

CKO
"trying not to dribble spam down my chin, as it were"




"frelkins" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> Peter Aitken wrote:
> >>
> > http://www.ruizcoffee.com/
>
> lemme second this emotion. those of you at the exchange cupping with me
> last year may recall one of the coffees we cupped at the specialty
> table was a boquete (from ruiz), and i believe that don s' esp. fine
> boquete is also a ruiz.
>

"Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
om...

>
>
> And you're a damned idiot. Just because you are the kind of sleaze who
would
> lie on the newsgroup to promote a product does not mean that others are.
>
>
> Peter Aitken
>
>

Rather ironic that you're being accused of doing the same thing you accused
Leila (one of the nicest, most interesting long-time rfc members) of doing a
month or so ago ( the cookbook _Rancho Cooking, Mexican and Californian
Recipes_). Your post is a hell of a lot more spam-like plus it's
cross-posted. And afaik (and admittedly, my knowledge is limited to what
goes on on-line), you never even apologized to her. So why the anger over
being accused, when you, yourself, have made the very same mistake?

rona

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Folgers & Eight O' Clock (bean) do us fine.

L wrote:
> On 19-Jan-2005, "Peter Aitken" > wrote:
>
>> When I was in Panama a while ago, I visited a coffee plantation in
>> Boquete,
>> a lovely little town in the mountains in north-west part of the
>> country. The
>> coffee was really good, among the best I have had. They are finally
>> making
>>
>> their goods available for order online.
>>
>> http://www.ruizcoffee.com/
>>
>> Highly recommended.
>>
>> --
>> Peter Aitken
>
> Smells like SPAM, not really good coffee
>
You're way off base; Peter is a long-time poster to rfc. Might help if you
newbies to the group didn't jump to conclusions.

Jill

"DoublEE" > wrote in message
...
> On 19 Jan 2005 14:05:20 -0800, "Default User"
> > wrote:
> >
> >Anyway, isn't all coffee the same? Just get some instant. What? Why's
> >everybody staring at me like that? Ow! Cut it out!
>
> Oh boy. This thread is about to explode. ; )

No, about to expire.

> www.hobcoffeeroasters.com
> Hill of Beans Coffee Roasters
> Cleveland, Ohio

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:16:31 GMT, "L" > wrote:

>Smells like SPAM, not really good coffee

I love SPAM. I had a whole 200g tin of it last night for my supper:
two thick slices in a sandwich with houmous, some of it with crackers
and various cheeses, the rest of it just cut into strips. It was
awesome.