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Bob B 13-03-2004 09:48 PM

source of rose petals for cooking
 
I have a couple Indian recipes I really would like to try that use
rose petals as an important ingredient. I don't seem to be able to
locate a mail-order source of edible rose petals. Can anyone suggest
a source you have had luck with?

Thanks a lot!

Bob & Cynthia

Jack Schidt® 13-03-2004 09:54 PM

source of rose petals for cooking
 

"Bob B" > wrote in message
...
> I have a couple Indian recipes I really would like to try that use
> rose petals as an important ingredient. I don't seem to be able to
> locate a mail-order source of edible rose petals. Can anyone suggest
> a source you have had luck with?
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> Bob & Cynthia


If internet searching doesn't come up with anything, you might go to your
local bookstore and peruse the Indian cookbooks. Many times you'll find a
source for ingredients.

Jack Rosebud



Jack Schidt® 13-03-2004 09:54 PM

source of rose petals for cooking
 

"Bob B" > wrote in message
...
> I have a couple Indian recipes I really would like to try that use
> rose petals as an important ingredient. I don't seem to be able to
> locate a mail-order source of edible rose petals. Can anyone suggest
> a source you have had luck with?
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> Bob & Cynthia


If internet searching doesn't come up with anything, you might go to your
local bookstore and peruse the Indian cookbooks. Many times you'll find a
source for ingredients.

Jack Rosebud



HiTech RedNeck 13-03-2004 10:39 PM

source of rose petals for cooking
 

"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 16:48:27 -0500, Bob B >
> wrote:


> I don't know what's considered "food grade rose petals", and if
> the florists qualify, but if not there's always rose water sold
> bottled (specifically for cooking).


I believe that means primarily roses without pesticide applied. (Fungicide,
insecticide)
I don't know if there is any rose that is inherently poisonous (note: apples
and pears both belong to the rose family) but it would be wise to check with
a poison control center before trying a particular variety. If they say
it's nontoxic and it's not been treated with pesticides, then go for it.



HiTech RedNeck 13-03-2004 10:39 PM

source of rose petals for cooking
 

"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 16:48:27 -0500, Bob B >
> wrote:


> I don't know what's considered "food grade rose petals", and if
> the florists qualify, but if not there's always rose water sold
> bottled (specifically for cooking).


I believe that means primarily roses without pesticide applied. (Fungicide,
insecticide)
I don't know if there is any rose that is inherently poisonous (note: apples
and pears both belong to the rose family) but it would be wise to check with
a poison control center before trying a particular variety. If they say
it's nontoxic and it's not been treated with pesticides, then go for it.



snudle 14-03-2004 02:10 AM

source of rose petals for cooking
 
flowers from a florist have huge amounts of chemicals in and on them from
chemical fertilizers and numerous kinds of pesticides. You cannot wash it
of because it is absorbed into the petals.



"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 16:48:27 -0500, Bob B >
> wrote:
>
> >I have a couple Indian recipes I really would like to try that use
> >rose petals as an important ingredient. I don't seem to be able to
> >locate a mail-order source of edible rose petals. Can anyone suggest
> >a source you have had luck with?

>
> Try the florist or health food and holistic health shops. They
> have plenty of roses that die or aren't the best of shape and they
> sell bags full of the petals for herbal baths and sexual/religious
> rituals of all kinds.
>
> I don't know what's considered "food grade rose petals", and if
> the florists qualify, but if not there's always rose water sold
> bottled (specifically for cooking).
>
> -sw




snudle 14-03-2004 02:10 AM

source of rose petals for cooking
 
flowers from a florist have huge amounts of chemicals in and on them from
chemical fertilizers and numerous kinds of pesticides. You cannot wash it
of because it is absorbed into the petals.



"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 16:48:27 -0500, Bob B >
> wrote:
>
> >I have a couple Indian recipes I really would like to try that use
> >rose petals as an important ingredient. I don't seem to be able to
> >locate a mail-order source of edible rose petals. Can anyone suggest
> >a source you have had luck with?

>
> Try the florist or health food and holistic health shops. They
> have plenty of roses that die or aren't the best of shape and they
> sell bags full of the petals for herbal baths and sexual/religious
> rituals of all kinds.
>
> I don't know what's considered "food grade rose petals", and if
> the florists qualify, but if not there's always rose water sold
> bottled (specifically for cooking).
>
> -sw




Julia Altshuler 14-03-2004 03:11 AM

source of rose petals for cooking
 
What about the petals from my own rose bushes? Would they work for
cooking? I don't use spray on them. The varieties were chosen for
color and look, not for taste.

--Lia


Julia Altshuler 14-03-2004 03:11 AM

source of rose petals for cooking
 
What about the petals from my own rose bushes? Would they work for
cooking? I don't use spray on them. The varieties were chosen for
color and look, not for taste.

--Lia


Katra 14-03-2004 04:10 AM

source of rose petals for cooking
 
In article >,
"StocksRus®" > wrote:

> Steve Wertz > wrote in
> :
>
> > On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 21:10:09 -0500, "snudle" > wrote:
> >
> >>flowers from a florist have huge amounts of chemicals in and on them
> >>from chemical fertilizers and numerous kinds of pesticides. You
> >>cannot wash it of because it is absorbed into the petals.

> >
> > Do they sell "organic" roses nowdays, then?
> >
> > -sw
> >

>
> Uh, yea
> Dumbass


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Katra 14-03-2004 04:10 AM

source of rose petals for cooking
 
In article >,
"StocksRus®" > wrote:

> Steve Wertz > wrote in
> :
>
> > On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 21:10:09 -0500, "snudle" > wrote:
> >
> >>flowers from a florist have huge amounts of chemicals in and on them
> >>from chemical fertilizers and numerous kinds of pesticides. You
> >>cannot wash it of because it is absorbed into the petals.

> >
> > Do they sell "organic" roses nowdays, then?
> >
> > -sw
> >

>
> Uh, yea
> Dumbass


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Katra 14-03-2004 04:25 AM

source of rose petals for cooking
 
In article >,
Steve Wertz > wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 03:30:42 GMT, "StocksRus®"
> > wrote:
>
> >Uh, yea
> >Dumbass

>
> Listen moron: if you want to criticize me or call me names,
> there's a time and place to do it. Wait until I say something you
> disagree with (or can poke fun at), and then state your complaint.
>
> Otherwise you're just being a putz following me around like a
> little poodle barking misplaced nonsense like this, annoying
> everybody around you and brining a grin to me.
>
> We already have one too many Tourette Boys (Sheldon) in RFC.
>
> ObFood: Another peanut butter and sriracha sandwich and a
> four-pack of Murphy's Irish Stout. That stuff must be
> non-alcoholic because I slammed all 4 of 'em and didn't even
> catch a buzz. Must go buy more beer...
>
> -sw


Nah.

Cuervo.

That's the ticket! :-)

Kat

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Katra 14-03-2004 04:25 AM

source of rose petals for cooking
 
In article >,
Steve Wertz > wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 03:30:42 GMT, "StocksRus®"
> > wrote:
>
> >Uh, yea
> >Dumbass

>
> Listen moron: if you want to criticize me or call me names,
> there's a time and place to do it. Wait until I say something you
> disagree with (or can poke fun at), and then state your complaint.
>
> Otherwise you're just being a putz following me around like a
> little poodle barking misplaced nonsense like this, annoying
> everybody around you and brining a grin to me.
>
> We already have one too many Tourette Boys (Sheldon) in RFC.
>
> ObFood: Another peanut butter and sriracha sandwich and a
> four-pack of Murphy's Irish Stout. That stuff must be
> non-alcoholic because I slammed all 4 of 'em and didn't even
> catch a buzz. Must go buy more beer...
>
> -sw


Nah.

Cuervo.

That's the ticket! :-)

Kat

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T E 14-03-2004 04:47 AM

source of rose petals for cooking
 

T E 14-03-2004 04:47 AM

source of rose petals for cooking
 

Katra 14-03-2004 05:51 AM

source of rose petals for cooking
 
In article >,
Steve Wertz > wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 22:25:08 -0600, Katra
> > wrote:
>
>
> >> ObFood: Another peanut butter and sriracha sandwich and a
> >> four-pack of Murphy's Irish Stout. That stuff must be
> >> non-alcoholic because I slammed all 4 of 'em and didn't even
> >> catch a buzz. Must go buy more beer...

> >
> >Nah.
> >
> >Cuervo.
> >
> >That's the ticket! :-)

>
> It was past 9:00pm ... And tomorrow is Sunday, so only beer for
> me until Monday morning 9:am (Thanks to Texas laws).
>
> -sw


Heh, I understand... ;-)
Whatabout vino?

Higher proof. <G>

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Katra 14-03-2004 05:51 AM

source of rose petals for cooking
 
In article >,
Steve Wertz > wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 22:25:08 -0600, Katra
> > wrote:
>
>
> >> ObFood: Another peanut butter and sriracha sandwich and a
> >> four-pack of Murphy's Irish Stout. That stuff must be
> >> non-alcoholic because I slammed all 4 of 'em and didn't even
> >> catch a buzz. Must go buy more beer...

> >
> >Nah.
> >
> >Cuervo.
> >
> >That's the ticket! :-)

>
> It was past 9:00pm ... And tomorrow is Sunday, so only beer for
> me until Monday morning 9:am (Thanks to Texas laws).
>
> -sw


Heh, I understand... ;-)
Whatabout vino?

Higher proof. <G>

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Katra 14-03-2004 07:05 AM

source of rose petals for cooking
 
In article >,
Steve Wertz > wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 23:51:22 -0600, Katra
> > wrote:
>
> >Heh, I understand... ;-)
> >Whatabout vino?
> >
> >Higher proof. <G>

>
> Like some 13.9% Richards Wild Irish Rose (Anything over 13.9 is
> considered booze in TX).
>
> Heh. I actually drank some of that last week.
>
> -sw


T-bird....... <ducking and running>

K.

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Katra 14-03-2004 07:05 AM

source of rose petals for cooking
 
In article >,
Steve Wertz > wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 23:51:22 -0600, Katra
> > wrote:
>
> >Heh, I understand... ;-)
> >Whatabout vino?
> >
> >Higher proof. <G>

>
> Like some 13.9% Richards Wild Irish Rose (Anything over 13.9 is
> considered booze in TX).
>
> Heh. I actually drank some of that last week.
>
> -sw


T-bird....... <ducking and running>

K.

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Charles Gifford 14-03-2004 08:45 AM

source of rose petals for cooking
 

"Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
news:_3Q4c.3279$KO3.21325@attbi_s02...
> What about the petals from my own rose bushes? Would they work for
> cooking? I don't use spray on them. The varieties were chosen for
> color and look, not for taste.
>
> --Lia


As long as you don't spray them they will be fine. I used to enjoy rose
petal and mayonnaise sandwiches when I was young. Now I only occasionally
use them in salads or as decoration.

Charlie



Charles Gifford 14-03-2004 08:45 AM

source of rose petals for cooking
 

"Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
news:_3Q4c.3279$KO3.21325@attbi_s02...
> What about the petals from my own rose bushes? Would they work for
> cooking? I don't use spray on them. The varieties were chosen for
> color and look, not for taste.
>
> --Lia


As long as you don't spray them they will be fine. I used to enjoy rose
petal and mayonnaise sandwiches when I was young. Now I only occasionally
use them in salads or as decoration.

Charlie



Julia Altshuler 14-03-2004 02:53 PM

source of rose petals for cooking
 
Charles Gifford wrote:


> As long as you don't spray them they will be fine. I used to enjoy rose
> petal and mayonnaise sandwiches when I was young. Now I only occasionally
> use them in salads or as decoration.



Uh-oh. You would have thought the rose bushes were safe from my cooking
mania, but they turn out to be a fruit garden afterall. When do I pick
them for cooking? When they're fully ripe, um, er, flowered and falling
off the stem? Or earlier?

--Lia


Julia Altshuler 14-03-2004 02:53 PM

source of rose petals for cooking
 
Charles Gifford wrote:


> As long as you don't spray them they will be fine. I used to enjoy rose
> petal and mayonnaise sandwiches when I was young. Now I only occasionally
> use them in salads or as decoration.



Uh-oh. You would have thought the rose bushes were safe from my cooking
mania, but they turn out to be a fruit garden afterall. When do I pick
them for cooking? When they're fully ripe, um, er, flowered and falling
off the stem? Or earlier?

--Lia


Arri London 14-03-2004 11:44 PM

source of rose petals for cooking
 
Julia Altshuler wrote:
>
> Charles Gifford wrote:
>
> > As long as you don't spray them they will be fine. I used to enjoy rose
> > petal and mayonnaise sandwiches when I was young. Now I only occasionally
> > use them in salads or as decoration.

>
> Uh-oh. You would have thought the rose bushes were safe from my cooking
> mania, but they turn out to be a fruit garden afterall. When do I pick
> them for cooking? When they're fully ripe, um, er, flowered and falling
> off the stem? Or earlier?
>
> --Lia


They seem to have the most flavour when the rose has just opened fully,
but the petals haven't curved backwards yet. So definitely before they
are ready to fall off.
Might vary with the type of rose and the climate. Pick them first thing
in the morning.

Arri London 14-03-2004 11:44 PM

source of rose petals for cooking
 
Julia Altshuler wrote:
>
> Charles Gifford wrote:
>
> > As long as you don't spray them they will be fine. I used to enjoy rose
> > petal and mayonnaise sandwiches when I was young. Now I only occasionally
> > use them in salads or as decoration.

>
> Uh-oh. You would have thought the rose bushes were safe from my cooking
> mania, but they turn out to be a fruit garden afterall. When do I pick
> them for cooking? When they're fully ripe, um, er, flowered and falling
> off the stem? Or earlier?
>
> --Lia


They seem to have the most flavour when the rose has just opened fully,
but the petals haven't curved backwards yet. So definitely before they
are ready to fall off.
Might vary with the type of rose and the climate. Pick them first thing
in the morning.

Julian9EHP 15-03-2004 02:22 AM

source of rose petals for cooking
 
_Plain Delight_ says to cut off the white part at the bottom of a red rose
petal, for it can be bitter.



Julian9EHP 15-03-2004 02:22 AM

source of rose petals for cooking
 
_Plain Delight_ says to cut off the white part at the bottom of a red rose
petal, for it can be bitter.



Chris 15-03-2004 04:15 AM

source of rose petals for cooking
 
Arri London > wrote in message >...
> Julia Altshuler wrote:
>
> They seem to have the most flavour when the rose has just opened fully,
> but the petals haven't curved backwards yet. So definitely before they
> are ready to fall off.
> Might vary with the type of rose and the climate. Pick them first thing
> in the morning.


She's right - they have the highest moisture content in the morning.
As long as you haven't sprayed them, or used any systemic pesticides,
they should be fine. If you need to buy roses, I've read that Trader
Joe's gets their flowers from an organic nursery - and they're
reasonably priced.

- Chris
---
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Chris 15-03-2004 04:15 AM

source of rose petals for cooking
 
Arri London > wrote in message >...
> Julia Altshuler wrote:
>
> They seem to have the most flavour when the rose has just opened fully,
> but the petals haven't curved backwards yet. So definitely before they
> are ready to fall off.
> Might vary with the type of rose and the climate. Pick them first thing
> in the morning.


She's right - they have the highest moisture content in the morning.
As long as you haven't sprayed them, or used any systemic pesticides,
they should be fine. If you need to buy roses, I've read that Trader
Joe's gets their flowers from an organic nursery - and they're
reasonably priced.

- Chris
---
http://www.sudairy.com/


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