I am trying to find a Waldorf salad recipe that #1 doesn't include chicken or
celery since we don't want it in there and #2 does include marshmallows and
grapes. We both used to eat something like this in school. Way back in the dark
ages. And we miss it; we know we want apples, walnuts, grapes, marshmallows and
stuff in it. We need the amounts of each also it used to have I think a
dressing made of Miracle whip and lemon juice. I know this because in my house
we didn't use mayonnaise only miracle whip. Does anyone have any good recipes
for me? We Googled and every recipe had celery or chicken in it.

Thanking you in advance

Amber

"Amberinauburn" > wrote in message
...
>I am trying to find a Waldorf salad recipe that #1 doesn't include chicken
>or
> celery since we don't want it in there and #2 does include marshmallows
> and
> grapes. We both used to eat something like this in school. Way back in the
> dark
> ages. And we miss it; we know we want apples, walnuts, grapes,
> marshmallows and
> stuff in it. We need the amounts of each also it used to have I think a
> dressing made of Miracle whip and lemon juice. I know this because in my
> house
> we didn't use mayonnaise only miracle whip. Does anyone have any good
> recipes
> for me? We Googled and every recipe had celery or chicken in it.
>
> Thanking you in advance
>
> Amber
>

Whatever salad you are looking for may be very good, but please don't call
it Waldorf salad. The name Waldorf refers to a specific recipe from the
Waldorf Astoria hotel that contains apple, celery, walnuts, mayonaisse, etc.
It does *not* contain marshmallows or grapes or miracle whip - or chicken
for that matter.


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

"Amberinauburn" > wrote in message
...
>I am trying to find a Waldorf salad recipe that #1 doesn't include chicken
>or
> celery since we don't want it in there and #2 does include marshmallows
> and
> grapes. We both used to eat something like this in school. Way back in the
> dark
> ages. And we miss it; we know we want apples, walnuts, grapes,
> marshmallows and
> stuff in it. We need the amounts of each also it used to have I think a
> dressing made of Miracle whip and lemon juice. I know this because in my
> house
> we didn't use mayonnaise only miracle whip. Does anyone have any good
> recipes
> for me? We Googled and every recipe had celery or chicken in it.
>
> Thanking you in advance
>
> Amber
>

<gag....barf> Marshmallows in a salad? :-)

Amberinauburn wrote:
> I am trying to find a Waldorf salad recipe that #1
> doesn't include chicken or celery since we don't want it
> in there and #2 does include marshmallows and grapes. We
> both used to eat something like this in school. Way back
> in the dark ages. And we miss it; we know we want apples,
> walnuts, grapes, marshmallows and stuff in it. We need
> the amounts of each also it used to have I think a
> dressing made of Miracle whip and lemon juice. I know
> this because in my house we didn't use mayonnaise only
> miracle whip. Does anyone have any good recipes for me?
> We Googled and every recipe had celery or chicken in it.
>
Could you use a recipe that sounds like it would fit your ideas, but leave
out what you don't like and add whatever you would like?

Just a thought.

BOB

BOB wrote:

> Amberinauburn wrote:
> > I am trying to find a Waldorf salad recipe that #1
> > doesn't include chicken or celery since we don't want it
> > in there and #2 does include marshmallows and grapes.
> >
> Could you use a recipe that sounds like it would fit your ideas, but leave
> out what you don't like and add whatever you would like?
> Just a thought.
> BOB

Then you could call it an original creation - the Amberdorf Salad. Or
Amberwal or Walburn. Or Grallow Salad
Edrena

W******f Party Salad ;-)

Ingredients:

3 cups apples, diced
1 cup grapes, seedless
1 cup miniature marshmallows
1/2 cup walnuts
1/4 to 1/2 cup Miracle Whip
1/2 cup heavy cream, whipped
Lettuce
>
Directions:

Combine the fruit, marshmallows and nuts, toss lightly.
Combine the whipped cream and Miracle Whip.
Fold into the fruit salad.
Chill.

Before serving, place the mixture on a bed of lettuce.

-Rusty

On Thu 27 Jan 2005 11:08:18a, Peter Aitken wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> "Amberinauburn" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I am trying to find a Waldorf salad recipe that #1 doesn't include
>>chicken or
>> celery since we don't want it in there and #2 does include marshmallows
>> and grapes. We both used to eat something like this in school. Way back
>> in the dark ages. And we miss it; we know we want apples, walnuts,
>> grapes, marshmallows and stuff in it. We need the amounts of each also
>> it used to have I think a dressing made of Miracle whip and lemon
>> juice. I know this because in my house we didn't use mayonnaise only
>> miracle whip. Does anyone have any good recipes for me? We Googled and
>> every recipe had celery or chicken in it.
>>
>> Thanking you in advance
>>
>> Amber
>>
>
> Whatever salad you are looking for may be very good, but please don't
> call it Waldorf salad. The name Waldorf refers to a specific recipe from
> the Waldorf Astoria hotel that contains apple, celery, walnuts,
> mayonaisse, etc. It does *not* contain marshmallows or grapes or miracle
> whip - or chicken for that matter.

Peter, this reminds me of what somebody did to "Ambrosia" years ago. What
authentically contained only fresh oranges, coconut, and sugar (possibly
garnished with a few toasted pecans or tiny bits of maraschino cherry),
ended up *******ized with marshmallows, CoolWhip, and God knows what else.
It's enough to gag a maggot.

Wayne

The Joneses wrote:
> BOB wrote:
>
>> Amberinauburn wrote:
>>> I am trying to find a Waldorf salad recipe that #1
>>> doesn't include chicken or celery since we don't want it
>>> in there and #2 does include marshmallows and grapes.
>>>
>> Could you use a recipe that sounds like it would fit
>> your ideas, but leave out what you don't like and add
>> whatever you would like?
>> Just a thought.
>> BOB
>
> Then you could call it an original creation - the
> Amberdorf Salad. Or Amberwal or Walburn. Or Grallow
> Salad
> Edrena

Yaeh. I wasn't going to get into the naming thing. There are too many
people that like that kind of thing much more than I do.

I just think it is extremely silly to have to find an "EXACT" recipe when
all the recipes that you find have things in it that you don't like, and
omit things that you want in it. With a recipe, I might make it exactly
the first time to see if I like it, but then I usually change things just
for the variations that I can come up with.

BOB

On Thu 27 Jan 2005 12:05:19p, BOB wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> The Joneses wrote:
>> BOB wrote:
>>
>>> Amberinauburn wrote:
>>>> I am trying to find a Waldorf salad recipe that #1
>>>> doesn't include chicken or celery since we don't want it
>>>> in there and #2 does include marshmallows and grapes.
>>>>
>>> Could you use a recipe that sounds like it would fit
>>> your ideas, but leave out what you don't like and add
>>> whatever you would like?
>>> Just a thought.
>>> BOB
>>
>> Then you could call it an original creation - the
>> Amberdorf Salad. Or Amberwal or Walburn. Or Grallow
>> Salad
>> Edrena
>
> Yaeh. I wasn't going to get into the naming thing. There are too many
> people that like that kind of thing much more than I do.
>
> I just think it is extremely silly to have to find an "EXACT" recipe when
> all the recipes that you find have things in it that you don't like, and
> omit things that you want in it. With a recipe, I might make it exactly
> the first time to see if I like it, but then I usually change things just
> for the variations that I can come up with.
>
> BOB

Yeah, to me that's the whole point of knowing how to cook and being
creative in making a recipe your own and that you like.

Wayne

BOB wrote:
>
> Yaeh. I wasn't going to get into the naming thing. There are too
many
> people that like that kind of thing much more than I do.
>
> I just think it is extremely silly to have to find an "EXACT" recipe
when
> all the recipes that you find have things in it that you don't like,
and
> omit things that you want in it. With a recipe, I might make it
exactly
> the first time to see if I like it, but then I usually change things
just
> for the variations that I can come up with.
>


Well... the naming thing is kind of trivial and I don't meant to be
snob but as you modify a recipe there is a point of no return after
which it is no longer the same thing. You can't just say "I'll make
Beef Stroganoff but instead of beef I'll use turnips." Whatever you end
up with may be exactly how you like it but it won't be Beef Stroganoff.
Some kind of consistency in recipes is necessary in such discussions
just like a common terminology is necessary in most aspects of life.
Otherwise people can get tragically confused. It's kind of like your
girlfried saying "Let's have sex but instead of taking our clothes off
and going to bed, we'll mow the loan and take out the garbage" That BTY
is a common misunderstanding that is fundamental to the instiution of
marriage.

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu 27 Jan 2005 11:08:18a, Peter Aitken wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> "Amberinauburn" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>I am trying to find a Waldorf salad recipe that #1 doesn't include
>>>chicken or
>>> celery since we don't want it in there and #2 does include marshmallows
>>> and grapes. We both used to eat something like this in school. Way back
>>> in the dark ages. And we miss it; we know we want apples, walnuts,
>>> grapes, marshmallows and stuff in it. We need the amounts of each also
>>> it used to have I think a dressing made of Miracle whip and lemon
>>> juice. I know this because in my house we didn't use mayonnaise only
>>> miracle whip. Does anyone have any good recipes for me? We Googled and
>>> every recipe had celery or chicken in it.
>>>
>>> Thanking you in advance
>>>
>>> Amber
>>>
>>
>> Whatever salad you are looking for may be very good, but please don't
>> call it Waldorf salad. The name Waldorf refers to a specific recipe from
>> the Waldorf Astoria hotel that contains apple, celery, walnuts,
>> mayonaisse, etc. It does *not* contain marshmallows or grapes or miracle
>> whip - or chicken for that matter.
>
> Peter, this reminds me of what somebody did to "Ambrosia" years ago. What
> authentically contained only fresh oranges, coconut, and sugar (possibly
> garnished with a few toasted pecans or tiny bits of maraschino cherry),
> ended up *******ized with marshmallows, CoolWhip, and God knows what else.
> It's enough to gag a maggot.
>
> Wayne
>

I want to say something more here, but it wouldn't be politically correct.
:-) Let's just say you're right. :-)

"Rusty" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> W******f Party Salad ;-)
>
> Ingredients:
>
> 3 cups apples, diced
> 1 cup grapes, seedless
> 1 cup miniature marshmallows
> 1/2 cup walnuts
> 1/4 to 1/2 cup Miracle Whip
> 1/2 cup heavy cream, whipped
> Lettuce
>>
> Directions:
>
> Combine the fruit, marshmallows and nuts, toss lightly.
> Combine the whipped cream and Miracle Whip.
> Fold into the fruit salad.
> Chill.
>
> Before serving, place the mixture on a bed of lettuce.
>
> -Rusty
>

<mmmfffff.....bucket....quick>

Why not leave out the marshmallows, dressing and cream, and toss the whole
thing with some vanilla yogurt, or plain yogurt that was mixed with orange
zest the day before and left to "flavor up"?

On Thu 27 Jan 2005 12:32:53p, Doug Kanter wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu 27 Jan 2005 11:08:18a, Peter Aitken wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> "Amberinauburn" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>I am trying to find a Waldorf salad recipe that #1 doesn't include
>>>>chicken or
>>>> celery since we don't want it in there and #2 does include
>>>> marshmallows and grapes. We both used to eat something like this in
>>>> school. Way back in the dark ages. And we miss it; we know we want
>>>> apples, walnuts, grapes, marshmallows and stuff in it. We need the
>>>> amounts of each also it used to have I think a dressing made of
>>>> Miracle whip and lemon juice. I know this because in my house we
>>>> didn't use mayonnaise only miracle whip. Does anyone have any good
>>>> recipes for me? We Googled and every recipe had celery or chicken in
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanking you in advance
>>>>
>>>> Amber
>>>>
>>>
>>> Whatever salad you are looking for may be very good, but please don't
>>> call it Waldorf salad. The name Waldorf refers to a specific recipe
>>> from the Waldorf Astoria hotel that contains apple, celery, walnuts,
>>> mayonaisse, etc. It does *not* contain marshmallows or grapes or
>>> miracle whip - or chicken for that matter.
>>
>> Peter, this reminds me of what somebody did to "Ambrosia" years ago.
>> What authentically contained only fresh oranges, coconut, and sugar
>> (possibly garnished with a few toasted pecans or tiny bits of
>> maraschino cherry), ended up *******ized with marshmallows, CoolWhip,
>> and God knows what else. It's enough to gag a maggot.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>
> I want to say something more here, but it wouldn't be politically
> correct.
>:-) Let's just say you're right. :-)

ROTFLMAO! Your restraint is admirable!

Wayne

On Thu 27 Jan 2005 11:25:12a, Doug Kanter wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> "Amberinauburn" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I am trying to find a Waldorf salad recipe that #1 doesn't include
>>chicken or
>> celery since we don't want it in there and #2 does include marshmallows
>> and grapes. We both used to eat something like this in school. Way back
>> in the dark ages. And we miss it; we know we want apples, walnuts,
>> grapes, marshmallows and stuff in it. We need the amounts of each also
>> it used to have I think a dressing made of Miracle whip and lemon
>> juice. I know this because in my house we didn't use mayonnaise only
>> miracle whip. Does anyone have any good recipes for me? We Googled and
>> every recipe had celery or chicken in it.
>>
>> Thanking you in advance
>>
>> Amber
>>
>
> <gag....barf> Marshmallows in a salad? :-)

As I look back over this thread, it reminds me of something that happened
at work 7-8 years ago. One day around the holidays, a co-worker whom I'd
know and been friends with for years said to me, "Your family's from the
South aren't they? Do you have a good recipe for Ambrosia?" I replied,
"Yes, they are and, yes, I make Ambrosia they same way my grandmother and
mother made it. It's very simple, let me just tell you how to do it." My
friend replied, "Oh, no, you'll need to write it down so that I get it
just right." Without further conversation about it, the next day I
provided very detailed instructions beginning with how to crack a coconut,
save the coconut water, peel the skin from the meat, how to grate it,
etc., as well as how to peel and section oranges to eliminate any pith,
etc., and finally, how to assemble in a decorative glass or crystal bowl
the layers of coconut, orange, sugar, a few flecks of maraschino cherry
for color, etc., allowing it to "ripen" in the refrigerator and, finally,
sprinkling before serving with broken toasted pecan halves.

We were having lunch when I presented this to him, and he took an
inordinately long time to read and re-read my instructions. Finally, with
a puzzled look, he asked, "Didn't you leave out the CoolWhip and
marshmallows?"

We had a long discussion about the origin of recipes!

Cheers,
Wayne

Doug Kanter wrote:
> "Rusty" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>> W******f Party Salad ;-)
>>
>> Ingredients:
>>
>> 3 cups apples, diced
>> 1 cup grapes, seedless
>> 1 cup miniature marshmallows
>> 1/2 cup walnuts
>> 1/4 to 1/2 cup Miracle Whip
>> 1/2 cup heavy cream, whipped
>> Lettuce
>>>
>> Directions:
>>
>> Combine the fruit, marshmallows and nuts, toss lightly.
>> Combine the whipped cream and Miracle Whip.
>> Fold into the fruit salad.
>> Chill.
>>
>> Before serving, place the mixture on a bed of lettuce.
>>
>> -Rusty
>>
>
> <mmmfffff.....bucket....quick>
>
> Why not leave out the marshmallows, dressing and cream, and toss the
> whole thing with some vanilla yogurt, or plain yogurt that was mixed
> with orange zest the day before and left to "flavor up"?

Actually, whether or not any one of us would like it, Rusty *did* provide
the OP with a recipe that fit the description. I wouldn't care for it
either, but the OP hopefully found what he/she was looking for.

kili

>Actually, whether or not any one of us would like it, Rusty *did*
provide
>the OP with a recipe that fit the description. I wouldn't care for it
>either, but the OP hopefully found what he/she was looking for.

>kili

I can't stand Miracle Whip. Through a Google search, I found a
recipe that fit the description of what the OP wanted. To each his own.
I've been lurking here on and off since 1994.

-Rusty

"Rusty" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> >Actually, whether or not any one of us would like it, Rusty *did*
> provide
>>the OP with a recipe that fit the description. I wouldn't care for it
>>either, but the OP hopefully found what he/she was looking for.
>
>>kili
>
> I can't stand Miracle Whip. Through a Google search, I found a
> recipe that fit the description of what the OP wanted. To each his own.
> I've been lurking here on and off since 1994.
>
> -Rusty
>

I had Miracle Whip long ago, and seem to remember that it had a sweet taste,
as opposed to the slight tartness of mayonaisse. Does that sound right?

"kilikini" > wrote in message
...
> Doug Kanter wrote:
>> "Rusty" > wrote in message
>> ups.com...
>>> W******f Party Salad ;-)
>>>
>>> Ingredients:
>>>
>>> 3 cups apples, diced
>>> 1 cup grapes, seedless
>>> 1 cup miniature marshmallows
>>> 1/2 cup walnuts
>>> 1/4 to 1/2 cup Miracle Whip
>>> 1/2 cup heavy cream, whipped
>>> Lettuce
>>>>
>>> Directions:
>>>
>>> Combine the fruit, marshmallows and nuts, toss lightly.
>>> Combine the whipped cream and Miracle Whip.
>>> Fold into the fruit salad.
>>> Chill.
>>>
>>> Before serving, place the mixture on a bed of lettuce.
>>>
>>> -Rusty
>>>
>>
>> <mmmfffff.....bucket....quick>
>>
>> Why not leave out the marshmallows, dressing and cream, and toss the
>> whole thing with some vanilla yogurt, or plain yogurt that was mixed
>> with orange zest the day before and left to "flavor up"?
>
> Actually, whether or not any one of us would like it, Rusty *did* provide
> the OP with a recipe that fit the description. I wouldn't care for it
> either, but the OP hopefully found what he/she was looking for.
>
> kili
>
>

Yeah....but we're the diabetes and obesity capital of the known universe!

Doug Kanter wrote:
> "Rusty" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>>> Actually, whether or not any one of us would like it, Rusty *did*
>>> provide the OP with a recipe that fit the description. I wouldn't
>>> care for it either, but the OP hopefully found what he/she was
>>> looking for.
>>
>>> kili
>>
>> I can't stand Miracle Whip. Through a Google search, I found a
>> recipe that fit the description of what the OP wanted. To each his
>> own. I've been lurking here on and off since 1994.
>>
>> -Rusty
>>
>
> I had Miracle Whip long ago, and seem to remember that it had a sweet
> taste, as opposed to the slight tartness of mayonaisse. Does that
> sound right?

It's like a lemony, tart flavor sort of. My mom used to use it all the time
instead of Mayo. I ended up with an ex-husband who couldn't stand Miracle
Whip and I adjusted to Mayo. Just last year a roommate of mine refused to
touch Mayo and only bought Miracle Whip, which I tried because I thought I
liked it. I did *not*. Once you have Mayo, you can't go back to Miracle
Whip. It just isn't the same (even though I still don't really even like
Mayo.)

kili

Doug Kanter wrote:
> "kilikini" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Doug Kanter wrote:
>>> "Rusty" > wrote in message
>>> ups.com...
>>>> W******f Party Salad ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Ingredients:
>>>>
>>>> 3 cups apples, diced
>>>> 1 cup grapes, seedless
>>>> 1 cup miniature marshmallows
>>>> 1/2 cup walnuts
>>>> 1/4 to 1/2 cup Miracle Whip
>>>> 1/2 cup heavy cream, whipped
>>>> Lettuce
>>>>>
>>>> Directions:
>>>>
>>>> Combine the fruit, marshmallows and nuts, toss lightly.
>>>> Combine the whipped cream and Miracle Whip.
>>>> Fold into the fruit salad.
>>>> Chill.
>>>>
>>>> Before serving, place the mixture on a bed of lettuce.
>>>>
>>>> -Rusty
>>>>
>>>
>>> <mmmfffff.....bucket....quick>
>>>
>>> Why not leave out the marshmallows, dressing and cream, and toss the
>>> whole thing with some vanilla yogurt, or plain yogurt that was mixed
>>> with orange zest the day before and left to "flavor up"?
>>
>> Actually, whether or not any one of us would like it, Rusty *did*
>> provide the OP with a recipe that fit the description. I wouldn't
>> care for it either, but the OP hopefully found what he/she was
>> looking for.
>>
>> kili
>>
>>
>
> Yeah....but we're the diabetes and obesity capital of the known
> universe!

Yes we are! :~)

kili

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:36:28 GMT, "kilikini"
> wrote:

>It's like a lemony, tart flavor sort of. My mom used to use it all the time
>instead of Mayo. I ended up with an ex-husband who couldn't stand Miracle
>Whip and I adjusted to Mayo. Just last year a roommate of mine refused to
>touch Mayo and only bought Miracle Whip, which I tried because I thought I
>liked it. I did *not*. Once you have Mayo, you can't go back to Miracle
>Whip. It just isn't the same (even though I still don't really even like
>Mayo.)

I like miracle whip for specific uses, mayo is more general. I'm trying to
remember exactly which sandwich I prefer miracle whip on. There's one
specific one I used to have that I liked it better for, but pretty much
everything else I use mayo on (sandwiches, salads, deviled eggs) I use
Hellman's.

--
Siobhan Perricone
Humans wrote the bible,
God wrote the rocks
-- Word of God by Kathy Mar

On 27 Jan 2005 18:55:37 GMT, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

>Peter, this reminds me of what somebody did to "Ambrosia" years ago.

>It's enough to gag a maggot.

Why do people feel such a need to declare to everyone else how much the
things they eat suck?

Who gives a flying maggot if you like it or not? He wasn't asking for the
recipe to feed YOU was he? Where do you get off judging what other people
like or don't like?

Man, I've been posting here for nearly ten years and I'm still irritated
when I see crap like this.

Get off your damn high horse and stick to the contributions you make that
are positive (and you do make them). The world's negative enough without
you slamming in your nasty images and judgements on other people's tastes.

--
Siobhan Perricone
Humans wrote the bible,
God wrote the rocks
-- Word of God by Kathy Mar

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:36:28 GMT, kilikini wrote:

> Once you have Mayo, you can't go back to Miracle Whip. It just isn't the
> same (even though I still don't really even like Mayo.)

Then I must be an exception - I like them both.

--

-Jeff B.
zoomie at fastmail dot fm

On 27 Jan 2005 17:54:54 GMT,
(Amberinauburn) scribbled some thoughts:


>I am trying to find a Waldorf salad recipe that #1 doesn't include chicken or
>celery since we don't want it in there and #2 does include marshmallows and
>grapes. We both used to eat something like this in school. Way back in the dark
>ages. And we miss it; we know we want apples, walnuts, grapes, marshmallows and
>stuff in it. We need the amounts of each also it used to have I think a
>dressing made of Miracle whip and lemon juice. I know this because in my house
>we didn't use mayonnaise only miracle whip. Does anyone have any good recipes
>for me? We Googled and every recipe had celery or chicken in it.
>
>Thanking you in advance
>
>Amber


It wouldn't be a traditional Waldorf salad with
marshmallows.

http://www.cooks.com/rec/search/0,1-...+salad,FF.html

--

Sincerely, | NOTE: Best viewed in a fixed pitch font
| (©) (©)
Andrew H. Carter | ------ooo--(_)--ooo------
d(-_-)b | /// \\\

Siobhan Perricone wrote:
> On 27 Jan 2005 18:55:37 GMT, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>> Peter, this reminds me of what somebody did to "Ambrosia" years ago.
>
>> It's enough to gag a maggot.
>
> Why do people feel such a need to declare to everyone else how much
> the things they eat suck?
>
> Who gives a flying maggot if you like it or not? He wasn't asking for
> the recipe to feed YOU was he? Where do you get off judging what
> other people like or don't like?
>
> Man, I've been posting here for nearly ten years and I'm still
> irritated when I see crap like this.
>
> Get off your damn high horse and stick to the contributions you make
> that are positive (and you do make them). The world's negative enough
> without you slamming in your nasty images and judgements on other
> people's tastes.

I wholeheartedly agree, although I don't have the RFC degree you do. I was
a lurker for a couple of years before I started posting about 2 years ago.
You're a veteran, I'm still part of the restroom cleaning crew. :~)

kili

Siobhan Perricone wrote:
> Why do people feel such a need to declare to everyone
> else how much the things they eat suck?
>
> Who gives a flying maggot if you like it or not? He
> wasn't asking for the recipe to feed YOU was he? Where do
> you get off judging what other people like or don't like?
>
> Man, I've been posting here for nearly ten years and I'm
> still irritated when I see crap like this.
>
> Get off your damn high horse and stick to the
> contributions you make that are positive (and you do make
> them). The world's negative enough without you slamming
> in your nasty images and judgements on other people's
> tastes.
>

Listen...
Hear that sound? Listen carefully. That's the sound of APPLAUSE coming
from the peanut gallerie.

BOB
who almost imbeded a sound file in my reply, but that would be a no-no in
this text only newsgroup

Doug Kanter wrote:
> "Rusty" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>> W******f Party Salad ;-)
>>
>> Ingredients:
>>
>> 3 cups apples, diced
>> 1 cup grapes, seedless
>> 1 cup miniature marshmallows
>> 1/2 cup walnuts
>> 1/4 to 1/2 cup Miracle Whip
>> 1/2 cup heavy cream, whipped
>> Lettuce
>>>
>> Directions:
>>
>> Combine the fruit, marshmallows and nuts, toss lightly.
>> Combine the whipped cream and Miracle Whip.
>> Fold into the fruit salad.
>> Chill.
>>
>> Before serving, place the mixture on a bed of lettuce.
>>
>> -Rusty
>>
>
> <mmmfffff.....bucket....quick>
>
> Why not leave out the marshmallows, dressing and cream,
> and toss the whole thing with some vanilla yogurt, or
> plain yogurt that was mixed with orange zest the day
> before and left to "flavor up"?

I'm typing very slowly so that you might comprehend. Think *COMFORT
FOOD*.
Re-read the original post in this thread...the original poster was looking
for a specific taste that she and a friend (notice she typed "we" several
times?) were looking for.

Read your suggestion again. Does it come anywhere close to what the
original poster was looking for?

BOB
where is Sheldon when we need him...

kilikini wrote:
> It's like a lemony, tart flavor sort of. My mom used to
> use it all the time instead of Mayo. I ended up with an
> ex-husband who couldn't stand Miracle Whip and I adjusted
> to Mayo. Just last year a roommate of mine refused to
> touch Mayo and only bought Miracle Whip, which I tried
> because I thought I liked it. I did *not*. Once you
> have Mayo, you can't go back to Miracle Whip. It just
> isn't the same (even though I still don't really even
> like Mayo.)
>
> kili

I like them both. Not necessarily interchangeable, just mayo on some
things, Miricle Whip on others.

BOB

Siobhan Perricone wrote:
> "kilikini" wrote:
>
>> It's like a lemony, tart flavor sort of. My mom used to
>> use it all the time instead of Mayo. I ended up with an
>> ex-husband who couldn't stand Miracle Whip and I
>> adjusted to Mayo. Just last year a roommate of mine
>> refused to touch Mayo and only bought Miracle Whip,
>> which I tried because I thought I liked it. I did
>> *not*. Once you have Mayo, you can't go back to Miracle
>> Whip. It just isn't the same (even though I still don't
>> really even like Mayo.)
>
> I like miracle whip for specific uses, mayo is more
> general. I'm trying to remember exactly which sandwich I
> prefer miracle whip on. There's one specific one I used
> to have that I liked it better for, but pretty much
> everything else I use mayo on (sandwiches, salads,
> deviled eggs) I use Hellman's.
>
Me too. Except that I use Miricle whip more often, and mayo for the
"special" tastes.

BOB

Yeff wrote:
> kilikini wrote:
>
>> Once you have Mayo, you can't go back to Miracle Whip.
>> It just isn't the same (even though I still don't really
>> even like Mayo.)
>
> Then I must be an exception - I like them both.
>
LOL!
Read my replies to kili and Siobhan. Right here, there are three
exceptions.

BOB

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu 27 Jan 2005 12:05:19p, BOB wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> The Joneses wrote:
>>> BOB wrote:
>>>
>>>> Amberinauburn wrote:
>>>>> I am trying to find a Waldorf salad recipe that #1
>>>>> doesn't include chicken or celery since we don't want it
>>>>> in there and #2 does include marshmallows and grapes.
>>>>>
>>>> Could you use a recipe that sounds like it would fit
>>>> your ideas, but leave out what you don't like and add
>>>> whatever you would like?
>>>> Just a thought.
>>>> BOB
>>>
>>> Then you could call it an original creation - the
>>> Amberdorf Salad. Or Amberwal or Walburn. Or Grallow
>>> Salad
>>> Edrena
>>
>> Yaeh. I wasn't going to get into the naming thing. There are too many
>> people that like that kind of thing much more than I do.
>>
>> I just think it is extremely silly to have to find an "EXACT" recipe when
>> all the recipes that you find have things in it that you don't like, and
>> omit things that you want in it. With a recipe, I might make it exactly
>> the first time to see if I like it, but then I usually change things just
>> for the variations that I can come up with.
>>
>> BOB
>
> Yeah, to me that's the whole point of knowing how to cook and being
> creative in making a recipe your own and that you like.
>
> Wayne
>
In the 50's in Kansas, I recall was the first time I ever heard of "Waldorf
Salad," but it was always made this way: Apples, Celery, English Walnuts & a
small can of Green Grapes with no seeds. No set amount of any of these
items. Then you added whichever you preferred, Hellman's mayo or Miracle
Whip.
Now when I make a bowl of "Waldorf Salad," I never put grapes in it and I
only use Hellman's; but if it is only for me, I will put dried currants or
raisins, which is basically going back to the basic Kansas recipe.
I don't think it matters really what the original recipe is/was, as long as
it tastes good to you: the apples, celery and walnuts. I suppose you could
go on about what type of apples to use, as well.
But regarding "ambrosia," I've never made an ambrosia recipe that I liked;
that is, one that contained the ambrosia coating. I've tasted a few that I
really liked, but would love to have a good recipe for one -- it doesn't
have to be "the Original."
Thanks,
Dee

kilikini wrote:
>
> I wholeheartedly agree, although I don't have the RFC
> degree you do. I was a lurker for a couple of years
> before I started posting about 2 years ago. You're a
> veteran, I'm still part of the restroom cleaning crew.
> :~)
>
> kili

B.S.! You know what you are talking about. You can also take the heat
(in the kitchen and newsgroups).
;-)

BOB

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> BOB wrote:
>> The Joneses wrote:
>>> BOB wrote:
>>>> Amberinauburn wrote:
>>>>> I am trying to find a Waldorf salad recipe that #1
>>>>> doesn't include chicken or celery since we don't want
>>>>> it in there and #2 does include marshmallows and
>>>>> grapes.
>>>>>
>>>> Could you use a recipe that sounds like it would fit
>>>> your ideas, but leave out what you don't like and add
>>>> whatever you would like?
>>>> Just a thought.
>>>> BOB
>>>
>>> Then you could call it an original creation - the
>>> Amberdorf Salad. Or Amberwal or Walburn. Or Grallow
>>> Salad
>>> Edrena
>>
>> Yaeh. I wasn't going to get into the naming thing.
>> There are too many people that like that kind of thing
>> much more than I do.
>>
>> I just think it is extremely silly to have to find an
>> "EXACT" recipe when all the recipes that you find have
>> things in it that you don't like, and omit things that
>> you want in it. With a recipe, I might make it exactly
>> the first time to see if I like it, but then I usually
>> change things just for the variations that I can come up
>> with.
>>
>> BOB
>
> Yeah, to me that's the whole point of knowing how to cook
> and being creative in making a recipe your own and that
> you like.
>
> Wayne

Just don't call it "Waldorf Lasagna Alfredo Barbecue Chili" after you've
made altertions and changes.
<eg>

BOB

" BOB" > wrote in message
. ..
> Doug Kanter wrote:
>> "Rusty" > wrote in message
>> ups.com...
>>> W******f Party Salad ;-)
>>>
>>> Ingredients:
>>>
>>> 3 cups apples, diced
>>> 1 cup grapes, seedless
>>> 1 cup miniature marshmallows
>>> 1/2 cup walnuts
>>> 1/4 to 1/2 cup Miracle Whip
>>> 1/2 cup heavy cream, whipped
>>> Lettuce
>>>>
>>> Directions:
>>>
>>> Combine the fruit, marshmallows and nuts, toss lightly.
>>> Combine the whipped cream and Miracle Whip.
>>> Fold into the fruit salad.
>>> Chill.
>>>
>>> Before serving, place the mixture on a bed of lettuce.
>>>
>>> -Rusty
>>>
>>
>> <mmmfffff.....bucket....quick>
>>
>> Why not leave out the marshmallows, dressing and cream,
>> and toss the whole thing with some vanilla yogurt, or
>> plain yogurt that was mixed with orange zest the day
>> before and left to "flavor up"?
>
> I'm typing very slowly so that you might comprehend. Think *COMFORT
> FOOD*.
> Re-read the original post in this thread...the original poster was looking
> for a specific taste that she and a friend (notice she typed "we" several
> times?) were looking for.
>
> Read your suggestion again. Does it come anywhere close to what the
> original poster was looking for?

No, but I wasn't raised on that much sugar in such intense combinations,
with any and all contrasts bludgeoned. So, I threw in an idea.

On Thu 27 Jan 2005 06:12:17p, Dee Randall wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> In the 50's in Kansas, I recall was the first time I ever heard of
> "Waldorf Salad," but it was always made this way: Apples, Celery,
> English Walnuts & a small can of Green Grapes with no seeds. No set
> amount of any of these items. Then you added whichever you preferred,
> Hellman's mayo or Miracle Whip.
> Now when I make a bowl of "Waldorf Salad," I never put grapes in it and
> I only use Hellman's; but if it is only for me, I will put dried
> currants or raisins, which is basically going back to the basic Kansas
> recipe. I don't think it matters really what the original recipe is/was,
> as long as it tastes good to you: the apples, celery and walnuts. I
> suppose you could go on about what type of apples to use, as well.
> But regarding "ambrosia," I've never made an ambrosia recipe that I
> liked; that is, one that contained the ambrosia coating. I've tasted a
> few that I really liked, but would love to have a good recipe for one --
> it doesn't have to be "the Original."
> Thanks,
> Dee

Dee, I don't know if you'd like the Ambrosia that our family makes, since
it only contains coconut, oranges, sugar, etc. But I'll list it out for
you.

1 fresh coconut,
water drained and reserved,
the meat peeled and hand grated
3-4 navel oranges,
peel and section, and sections cut in half
(save the juice lost in sectioning)
1/2 (or more) granulated sugar)
3-4 maraschino cherries, patted dry and cut in small pieces
1/3 cup pecans halves, toasted and broken in quarters

Combine reserved water from coconut and juice from cutting the oranges.
Set aside.

In a decorative glass or crystal bowl, arrange a layer of coconut, followed
by a layer of orange pieces. Scatter a few pieces of cherry. Sprinkle
layer with sugar.

Repeat coconut, orange pieces, cherry pieces, and sprinkling of sugar until
you have no more.

Pour over all the coconut water and orange juice.

Seal top tightly with plastic wrap and refrigerate for at least 2 days
before serving.

Before serving, gently toss the layers to redistribute any liquid, then
garnish the top with the toasted pecans.

Serve chilled in small bowls.

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu 27 Jan 2005 06:12:17p, Dee Randall wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> In the 50's in Kansas, I recall was the first time I ever heard of
>> "Waldorf Salad," but it was always made this way: Apples, Celery,
>> English Walnuts & a small can of Green Grapes with no seeds. No set
>> amount of any of these items. Then you added whichever you preferred,
>> Hellman's mayo or Miracle Whip.
>> Now when I make a bowl of "Waldorf Salad," I never put grapes in it and
>> I only use Hellman's; but if it is only for me, I will put dried
>> currants or raisins, which is basically going back to the basic Kansas
>> recipe. I don't think it matters really what the original recipe is/was,
>> as long as it tastes good to you: the apples, celery and walnuts. I
>> suppose you could go on about what type of apples to use, as well.
>> But regarding "ambrosia," I've never made an ambrosia recipe that I
>> liked; that is, one that contained the ambrosia coating. I've tasted a
>> few that I really liked, but would love to have a good recipe for one --
>> it doesn't have to be "the Original."
>> Thanks,
>> Dee
>
> Dee, I don't know if you'd like the Ambrosia that our family makes, since
> it only contains coconut, oranges, sugar, etc. But I'll list it out for
> you.
>
> 1 fresh coconut,
> water drained and reserved,
> the meat peeled and hand grated
> 3-4 navel oranges,
> peel and section, and sections cut in half
> (save the juice lost in sectioning)
> 1/2 (or more) granulated sugar)
> 3-4 maraschino cherries, patted dry and cut in small pieces
> 1/3 cup pecans halves, toasted and broken in quarters
>
> Combine reserved water from coconut and juice from cutting the oranges.
> Set aside.
>
> In a decorative glass or crystal bowl, arrange a layer of coconut,
> followed
> by a layer of orange pieces. Scatter a few pieces of cherry. Sprinkle
> layer with sugar.
>
> Repeat coconut, orange pieces, cherry pieces, and sprinkling of sugar
> until
> you have no more.
>
> Pour over all the coconut water and orange juice.
>
> Seal top tightly with plastic wrap and refrigerate for at least 2 days
> before serving.
>
> Before serving, gently toss the layers to redistribute any liquid, then
> garnish the top with the toasted pecans.
>
> Serve chilled in small bowls.
>
Thanks for including this recipe of a true ambrosia, Wayne. I lived in
Hawaii, had coconuts in my yard, they were beyond my cooking skills then,
and now. I'll have to pass on this time-consuming recipe, but it looks
wonderful.
Dee

On Fri 28 Jan 2005 04:35:32a, Dee Randall wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Thanks for including this recipe of a true ambrosia, Wayne. I lived in
> Hawaii, had coconuts in my yard, they were beyond my cooking skills then,
> and now. I'll have to pass on this time-consuming recipe, but it looks
> wonderful.
> Dee

You quite welcome, Dee. Yes, it is quite time-consuming, especially hand-
grating the coconut. I've tried using the food processor, but the texture
just isn't the same. We rarely make this now, except at Christmastime.

Cheers!
Wayne

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 03:01:00 GMT, "Doug Kanter" >
wrote:

>>> <mmmfffff.....bucket....quick>

>> Read your suggestion again. Does it come anywhere close to what the
>> original poster was looking for?
>
>No, but I wasn't raised on that much sugar in such intense combinations,
>with any and all contrasts bludgeoned. So, I threw in an idea.

More like "threw up" not much of an idea. Looked to me like you just took
this as a chance to be snooty about food you didn't think sounded good.

Here, I'll save you some trouble: You are superior. You had a superior
childhood. Your tastes are refined and this makes you a better person than
everyone else here. Since we are all heathens with poor taste, sharing your
superiority with us is casting pearls before swine. We won't appreciate it,
so perhaps you should save your finer tastes and abilities for those
threads here that focus on the gourmet end of things and leave us commoners
to our cake.

--
Siobhan Perricone
Humans wrote the bible,
God wrote the rocks
-- Word of God by Kathy Mar

On Fri 28 Jan 2005 03:33:36p, Siobhan Perricone wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 03:01:00 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
> > wrote:
>
>>>> <mmmfffff.....bucket....quick>
>
>>> Read your suggestion again. Does it come anywhere close to what the
>>> original poster was looking for?
>>
>>No, but I wasn't raised on that much sugar in such intense combinations,
>>with any and all contrasts bludgeoned. So, I threw in an idea.
>
> More like "threw up" not much of an idea. Looked to me like you just
> took this as a chance to be snooty about food you didn't think sounded
> good.
>
> Here, I'll save you some trouble: You are superior. You had a superior
> childhood. Your tastes are refined and this makes you a better person
> than everyone else here. Since we are all heathens with poor taste,
> sharing your superiority with us is casting pearls before swine. We
> won't appreciate it, so perhaps you should save your finer tastes and
> abilities for those threads here that focus on the gourmet end of things
> and leave us commoners

Hey, some of those swine look pretty good with a string of pearls!
....especially you've had a few!

Wayne

"Siobhan Perricone" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 03:01:00 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
> >
> wrote:
>
>>>> <mmmfffff.....bucket....quick>
>
>>> Read your suggestion again. Does it come anywhere close to what the
>>> original poster was looking for?
>>
>>No, but I wasn't raised on that much sugar in such intense combinations,
>>with any and all contrasts bludgeoned. So, I threw in an idea.
>
> More like "threw up" not much of an idea. Looked to me like you just took
> this as a chance to be snooty about food you didn't think sounded good.
>
> Here, I'll save you some trouble: You are superior. You had a superior
> childhood. Your tastes are refined and this makes you a better person than
> everyone else here. Since we are all heathens with poor taste, sharing
> your
> superiority with us is casting pearls before swine. We won't appreciate
> it,
> so perhaps you should save your finer tastes and abilities for those
> threads here that focus on the gourmet end of things and leave us
> commoners
> to our cake.

No. I'm normal. I ate Lucky Charms, and all sorts of cereals from the days
when we thought freeze-dried fruit was wonderful because the astronauts ate
it, too.