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Priscilla H. Ballou wrote:
> Michael L Kankiewicz wrote: > >>On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Priscilla H. Ballou wrote: >> >> >>>Damsel wrote: >>> >>>>Have you seen a Chinese buffet with pizza yet? (I have) >>> >>>I have yet to see a Chinese buffet period. I gather they're a >>>midwestern invention? Here in Boston we have Chinese restaurants where >>>you order from a menu. Some are more Chinese than others, but I have >>>yet to see anything like a buffet other than the extra steam table where >>>you pick up shellfish and chicken feet, etc. when having dim sum. >> >>Oh no, we have a bunch of them in western new york, and we ate at one in >>either north or south carolina (can't remember which, being on the road). >>They had crayfish! > > > Fascinating! Clearly I am culturally deprived. > > Priscilla There are probably 15 of them within a 20 minute drive here in Eastern PA. 10 of them appeared last year alone. The older ones tend to have a lot more in the way of traditional Chinese foods. The newcomers tend to have >50% tater tots/pizza/fries/macaroni & cheese/chicken space nuggets etc. |
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Damsel wrote:
> They had mussels with cheese, served in a little dish made directly > by God Himself. I have no idea what kind of cheese they used. Looked > like Parmesan to me, but who knows? > > Anyway, I took one, and I ate it. Tasted a lot like a clam to me at > first, then the flavor got fishier as time went on. Altogether, it > wasn't a hideous experience. I'd probably grab a couple the next > time we go there. > I had a fantastic pasta dish (sorry, I know you're low-carbing) at Michael's in Highland, IL last October. It was linguini with sauteed scallops and steamed mussels (in the the shell) tossed in a wine/lemon/butter reduction. ( I think I have a paper menu from that restaurant; I collect those when available). The server immediately said, "You can substitute shrimp for the mussels in this dish." Hell no! Bring it on with the mussels! It was delicious. But I do understand picky. I still won't eat most veggies raw and I despise lettuce of any kind. Jill |
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George wrote:
> > Priscilla H. Ballou wrote: > > Michael L Kankiewicz wrote: > > > >>On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Priscilla H. Ballou wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Damsel wrote: > >>> > >>>>Have you seen a Chinese buffet with pizza yet? (I have) > >>> > >>>I have yet to see a Chinese buffet period. I gather they're a > >>>midwestern invention? Here in Boston we have Chinese restaurants where > >>>you order from a menu. Some are more Chinese than others, but I have > >>>yet to see anything like a buffet other than the extra steam table where > >>>you pick up shellfish and chicken feet, etc. when having dim sum. > >> > >>Oh no, we have a bunch of them in western new york, and we ate at one in > >>either north or south carolina (can't remember which, being on the road). > >>They had crayfish! > > > > > > Fascinating! Clearly I am culturally deprived. > > > > Priscilla > > There are probably 15 of them within a 20 minute drive here in Eastern > PA. 10 of them appeared last year alone. > > The older ones tend to have a lot more in the way of traditional Chinese > foods. The newcomers tend to have >50% tater tots/pizza/fries/macaroni & > cheese/chicken space nuggets etc. Is there any indication on the outside that they are buffets? Or do they have typical American Chinese restaurant names? Priscilla |
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:50:46 -0600, "jmcquown" >
wrote: >You feeling any better? I am about to head off to pick up something from my >doctor's office. Hope you aren't still uh... upchuking. Like clockwork. And now things have become ... more complex. I'm seriously considering the ER. I'll keep y'all posted. Carol -- "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say, 'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_ |
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"Priscilla H. Ballou" wrote:
> I have yet to see a Chinese buffet period. I gather they're a > midwestern invention? Here in Boston we have Chinese restaurants where > you order from a menu. Some are more Chinese than others, but I have > yet to see anything like a buffet other than the extra steam table where > you pick up shellfish and chicken feet, etc. when having dim sum. They are quite common in southern Ontario, I can think of at least a dozen in this area alone. Some of them are not all the great, like the one I went to with my mother for lunch last summer. I can't complain about the price, but you get what you pay for. The Mandarin chain just opened a new outlet in this area. Their weekday dinner price is $16.99. It's more on weekends because they have seafood on the buffet, and they have been packed every night since they opened two months ago. The buffet includes soups, won tons, egg rolls, spring rolls, peel and eat shrimp, shrimp salads, crab legs or lobster, various other salads, at least a dozen chinese dishes, some Cantonese and some spicier Szechwan dishes and curries, roast beef, chicken, sushi, pizza and a dessert bar. I don't usually go for buffets because I would prefer a smaller amount of good food that all you can eat mediocre food, but I have to say that I found their food to be quite tasty. I think that I got my money's worth with the crab legs alone. Fortunately, a lot of people tend to go for the high starch Cantonese dishes with sweet sauces. For what my mother ate at the buffet it probably would have been cheaper for her to have a $6 special. It seems to balance out. |
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>gynecologists look at all day. That was one of the funniest things I've read in a while! |
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:48:52 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: >I used to dislike mushrooms, but now I really like them. What surprises me is the number >of people who absolutely hate peas. I don't understand what there is not to like about >peas. They roll off your knife. :-) Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a "Biologists think they are chemists, chemists think they are phycisists, physicists think they are gods, and God thinks He is a mathematician." Anon |
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:48:52 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: >I used to dislike mushrooms, but now I really like them. What surprises me is the number >of people who absolutely hate peas. I don't understand what there is not to like about >peas. They roll off your knife. :-) Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a "Biologists think they are chemists, chemists think they are phycisists, physicists think they are gods, and God thinks He is a mathematician." Anon |
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:48:52 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: >I used to dislike mushrooms, but now I really like them. What surprises me is the number >of people who absolutely hate peas. I don't understand what there is not to like about >peas. They roll off your knife. :-) Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a "Biologists think they are chemists, chemists think they are phycisists, physicists think they are gods, and God thinks He is a mathematician." Anon |
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:30:45 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote: >In article >, wrote: > >> They also had something that's absolutely wonderful. They took tiny >> pieces of chicken breast meat, wrapped a couple inches of bacon >> around them, secured with a toothpick, and deep fried. I'm gonna >> give those a try at home. They were just marvelous! > >On your diet? C'mon now, take care of you, Toots! Virtually no carbs. Carbs are what screw up your diabetic control. Thanks for caring! ![]() Carol -- "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say, 'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_ |
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In article
>, Michael L Kankiewicz > wrote: > http://www.shellfishnw.com/images/geoduck1a.jpg Yeah, we got some well-hung clams out here in the NW. -- Julian Vrieslander |
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I had mussels my first time as well at a Chinese buffet, the ones with
the cheese on them. Since then I have bought them and prepare them on my own in several different ways including white wine, garlic and butter, and tomato sauce. All were very delicious, but I have a question. The ones I had at the buffet were about twice as large and were much meatier than the ones I've been buying at seafood markets. Does anybody know why? Thanks! This is my first post to this group looks fun Miles in Oakland, CA |
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ax_food wrote:
> I had mussels my first time as well at a Chinese buffet, the ones with > the cheese on them. Since then I have bought them and prepare them on > my own in several different ways including white wine, garlic and > butter, and tomato sauce. > > All were very delicious, but I have a question. > > The ones I had at the buffet were about twice as large and were much > meatier than the ones I've been buying at seafood markets. Does > anybody know why? > > Thanks! > This is my first post to this group looks fun > > Miles in Oakland, CA My guess is that the restaurant buys there mussels from a special restaurant wholesale supplier. You can usually get inexpensive, better products from them, BUT they won't sell to the public! kili |
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![]() kilikini wrote: > Damsel wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:58:47 -0500, Michael L Kankiewicz > > > wrote: > > > >> Oh no, we have a bunch of them in western new york, and we ate at > >> one in either north or south carolina (can't remember which, being > >> on the road). They had crayfish! > > > > Get this! In our town, they label the (which is smaller - dungeness > > or snow crabs?) as King Crab. > > > > They label the crayfish as Lobster. > > > > I have NO idea how they get away with it. > > > > Carol > > That's 'cause they're clueless. Snow crab has longer legs, dungeness is > more compact. There was a news article a whiles back that said that a lot of what Red Lobster calls "lobster" on their menus is actually crayfish...of course with an outfit like RL I'm not really surprised. AFAIK a lot of crayfish is imported from Vietnam, China, etc. Apparently the Louisiana, etc. crayfish growers are up in arms about this and want restrictive trade legislation against these imports. -- Best Greg |
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Gregory Morrow wrote:
> > There was a news article a whiles back that said that a lot of what Red > Lobster calls "lobster" on their menus is actually crayfish...of course with > an outfit like RL I'm not really surprised. Judging from our local RL, I don't know how they stay in business. Been there once and it was very overpriced and not really even all that good. But it's always packed, I can't figure out why, but it is. Now, OTOH I went to one in Burlington Vermont that was fabulous I guess it varies from place to place. -- Steve Ever wonder about those people who spend $2.00 apiece on those little bottles of Evian water? Try spelling Evian backwards... |
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Priscilla H. Ballou wrote:
> > Is there any indication on the outside that they are buffets? Or do > they have typical American Chinese restaurant names? > > Priscilla They are clearly marked and the name usually contains the word "buffet". |
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I had steamed mussles at a seafood buffet at the Beach Club Resort in
Disney. They were excellent. I was a little leary, but I figured the best way to try stuff is at a buffet....don't like it, get something else. I ate a bucket of 'em, they were so good. I've still never had lobster in my entire life! |
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" wrote:
> I had steamed mussles at a seafood buffet at the Beach Club Resort in > Disney. They were excellent. I was a little leary, but I figured the > best way to try stuff is at a buffet....don't like it, get something > else. > > I ate a bucket of 'em, they were so good. > > I've still never had lobster in my entire life! A buffet is not likely the best place to be introduced to lobster. It's pretty expensive around here. I had tried it in buffets and considered it to be okay, but not worth the price. Then I went on a trip to the east coast and had a fresh lobster dinner in Bar Harbor. I was impressed. It's good stuff. |
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kilikini wrote:
> ax_food wrote: > >>I had mussels my first time as well at a Chinese buffet, the ones with >>the cheese on them. Since then I have bought them and prepare them on >>my own in several different ways including white wine, garlic and >>butter, and tomato sauce. >> >>All were very delicious, but I have a question. >> >>The ones I had at the buffet were about twice as large and were much >>meatier than the ones I've been buying at seafood markets. Does >>anybody know why? >> >>Thanks! >>This is my first post to this group looks fun >> >>Miles in Oakland, CA > > > > My guess is that the restaurant buys there mussels from a special restaurant > wholesale supplier. You can usually get inexpensive, better products from > them, BUT they won't sell to the public! > > kili > > A well-stocked seafood market will have a variety of mussels from small to very large. At Christmas our local mundane Albertson's even stocked N.Z green-lipped mussels.\ gloria p |
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In article .com>,
"ax_food" > wrote: > I had mussels my first time as well at a Chinese buffet, the ones with > the cheese on them. Since then I have bought them and prepare them on > my own in several different ways including white wine, garlic and > butter, and tomato sauce. > > All were very delicious, but I have a question. > > The ones I had at the buffet were about twice as large and were much > meatier than the ones I've been buying at seafood markets. Does > anybody know why? > > Thanks! > This is my first post to this group looks fun > > Miles in Oakland, CA Those are probably the green-lipped mussels. They're generally imported frozen from New Zealand. Cindy -- C.J. Fuller Delete the obvious to email me |
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In article >,
Dave Smith > wrote: > " wrote: > > > I had steamed mussles at a seafood buffet at the Beach Club Resort in > > Disney. They were excellent. I was a little leary, but I figured the > > best way to try stuff is at a buffet....don't like it, get something > > else. > > > > I ate a bucket of 'em, they were so good. > > > > I've still never had lobster in my entire life! > > A buffet is not likely the best place to be introduced to lobster. It's > pretty expensive around here. I had tried it in buffets and considered it > to be okay, but not worth the price. Then I went on a trip to the east > coast and had a fresh lobster dinner in Bar Harbor. I was impressed. It's > good stuff. I think everything tastes better in Bar Harbor! ;-) Priscilla -- "It is very, very dangerous to treat any human, lowest of the low even, with contempt and arrogant whatever. The Lord takes this kind of treatment very, very personal." - QBaal in newsgroup alt.religion.christian.episcopal |
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Priscilla Ballou wrote:
> In article >, > Dave Smith > wrote: > > " wrote: >> >> >>>I had steamed mussles at a seafood buffet at the Beach Club Resort in >>>Disney. They were excellent. I was a little leary, but I figured the >>>best way to try stuff is at a buffet....don't like it, get something >>>else. >>> >>>I ate a bucket of 'em, they were so good. >>> >>>I've still never had lobster in my entire life! >> >>A buffet is not likely the best place to be introduced to lobster. It's >>pretty expensive around here. I had tried it in buffets and considered it >>to be okay, but not worth the price. Then I went on a trip to the east >>coast and had a fresh lobster dinner in Bar Harbor. I was impressed. It's >>good stuff. > > > I think everything tastes better in Bar Harbor! ;-) > > Priscilla > Don't live by an ocean but still want live fresh lobster that are *very* good? Check out http://www.thelobsterguy.com/ -- Steve Ever wonder about those people who spend $2.00 apiece on those little bottles of Evian water? Try spelling Evian backwards... |
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On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 23:47:46 -0600, Damsel
> wrote: > Some of you long-timers may remember back a few years ago when I went to > the store, bought a single button mushroom, sliced it and sauteed it in > butter, ate it, and lived to tell the story. I still avoid mushrooms, but > they're not as horrible as I'd thought they'd be. Did you watch America's Test Kitchen today? They showed a new use for an egg slicer... slicing mushrooms! That's very cool - and an easy way to allow kids to help w/o using a knife. sf |
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:09:58 -0600, "jmcquown"
> wrote: > I went to a Chinese buffet in Missouri en route to Texas. The staff barely > spoke English. But the buffet had "American" or "Americanized" items on it, > as well as yummy Chinese. For example, there were chicken nuggets that > looked like something you'd get from McDonald's and fried tater tots. I > think sometimes they try to add or modify things to fit other palates in > order to compete with "American" restaurants. It's probably there to mollify picky kids who wanted fast(er) food. sf |
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sf wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:09:58 -0600, "jmcquown" > > wrote: > > > I went to a Chinese buffet in Missouri en route to Texas. The staff barely > > spoke English. But the buffet had "American" or "Americanized" items on it, > > as well as yummy Chinese. For example, there were chicken nuggets that > > looked like something you'd get from McDonald's and fried tater tots. I > > think sometimes they try to add or modify things to fit other palates in > > order to compete with "American" restaurants. > > It's probably there to mollify picky kids who wanted > fast(er) food. Sure. The kids go for the familiar, which is generally cheap filler for kids. They usually charge half price for kids, so the parents bring them along and think they are getting a bargain. The kids fill up on cheap stuff. Everyone's happy. |
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One time on Usenet, Julian Vrieslander > said:
> In article > >, > Michael L Kankiewicz > wrote: > > > http://www.shellfishnw.com/images/geoduck1a.jpg > > Yeah, we got some well-hung clams out here in the NW. Heh, I'm glad I'm not the only one with a dirty mind... -- J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~ "You still haven't explained why the pool is filled with elf blood." - Frylock, ATHF |
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![]() Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:48:52 -0500, Dave Smith > > wrote: > > >I used to dislike mushrooms, but now I really like them. What surprises me is the number > >of people who absolutely hate peas. I don't understand what there is not to like about > >peas. > > They roll off your knife. :-) > > Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a Don't know who wrote this: 'I eat my peas with honey. I've done it all my life. I know that this sounds funny.* But it keeps them on the knife.' *alternatively: 'It makes the peas taste funny.' |
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 17:57:31 -0500, Dave Smith >
wrote: >Sure. The kids go for the familiar, which is generally cheap filler for kids. They >usually charge half price for kids, so the parents bring them along and think they >are getting a bargain. The kids fill up on cheap stuff. Everyone's happy. I saw something on Thursday night (mussel night) that is going to keep me away from buffets for a very long time. An unattended girl (maybe 7-8) was up at the salad bar, without a plate, eating stuff as she went along. She dropped a jello cube on the floor, picked it up, and put it back in the serving container. Ughhh! Carol -- "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say, 'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_ |
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Damsel wrote:
> > I saw something on Thursday night (mussel night) that is going to keep me > away from buffets for a very long time. An unattended girl (maybe 7-8) was > up at the salad bar, without a plate, eating stuff as she went along. She > dropped a jello cube on the floor, picked it up, and put it back in the > serving container. Ughhh! It could be worse. I was in a buffet line once where there was a mentally challenged man who was doing a pretty good job of helping himself as he went along, and then fish lipped the serving spoons before putting them back into the dishes. |
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:21:57 -0500, Dave Smith >
wrote: >Damsel wrote: > >> I saw something on Thursday night (mussel night) that is going to keep me >> away from buffets for a very long time. An unattended girl (maybe 7-8) was >> up at the salad bar, without a plate, eating stuff as she went along. She >> dropped a jello cube on the floor, picked it up, and put it back in the >> serving container. Ughhh! > >It could be worse. I was in a buffet line once where there was a mentally challenged >man who was doing a pretty good job of helping himself as he went along, and then fish >lipped the serving spoons before putting them back into the dishes. {{shudder}} I think I have to start cooking all of our meals at home, in self defense. My food's better, anyway. Carol -- "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say, 'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_ |
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"Priscilla H. Ballou" > wrote in message
... > Damsel wrote: > > > > Have you seen a Chinese buffet with pizza yet? (I have) > > I have yet to see a Chinese buffet period. I gather they're a > midwestern invention? We have Chinese/Thai/Indian, etc. buffets galore here in the Houston area. And our Chinese buffets have all sorts of stuff on them other than Chinese--including crawfish. Mary |
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"Damsel" > wrote in message
... > Some of you long-timers may remember back a few years ago when I went to > the store, bought a single button mushroom, sliced it and sauteed it in > butter, ate it, and lived to tell the story. I still avoid mushrooms, but > they're not as horrible as I'd thought they'd be. > > Fast forward to earlier this evening. We went to one of those Chinese > buffets that's exactly like every other Chinese buffet in the US. They had > mussels with cheese, served in a little dish made directly by God Himself. > I have no idea what kind of cheese they used. Looked like Parmesan to me, > but who knows? > > Anyway, I took one, and I ate it. Tasted a lot like a clam to me at first, > then the flavor got fishier as time went on. Altogether, it wasn't a > hideous experience. I'd probably grab a couple the next time we go there. There's a very good Belgian restaurant in Houston that serves the tastiest mussels steamed in white wine. Mary |
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 18:46:10 -0600, Damsel
> wrote: > I think I have to start cooking all of our meals at home, in self defense. > My food's better, anyway. No, just stay away from buffets. It's easy, really! sf |
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:59:47 -0800, sf > wrote:
>On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 18:46:10 -0600, Damsel > wrote: > >> I think I have to start cooking all of our meals at home, in self defense. >> My food's better, anyway. > >No, just stay away from buffets. It's easy, really! We got food poisoning at KFC awhile back, and they've since closed their doors. I'm not sure if the two are related or not, but I'm getting nervous about any kind of fast food, and we generally can't afford the slow stuff. Carol -- "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say, 'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_ |
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 20:28:48 GMT, Priscilla Ballou
> wrote: >In article >, > Dave Smith > wrote: > >> " wrote: >> >> > I had steamed mussles at a seafood buffet at the Beach Club Resort in >> > Disney. They were excellent. I was a little leary, but I figured the >> > best way to try stuff is at a buffet....don't like it, get something >> > else. >> > >> > I ate a bucket of 'em, they were so good. >> > >> > I've still never had lobster in my entire life! >> >> A buffet is not likely the best place to be introduced to lobster. It's >> pretty expensive around here. I had tried it in buffets and considered it >> to be okay, but not worth the price. Then I went on a trip to the east >> coast and had a fresh lobster dinner in Bar Harbor. I was impressed. It's >> good stuff. > >I think everything tastes better in Bar Harbor! ;-) > Lobster tastes even better if you sail East from MDI (Bar Harbor or wherever you tied up) past Schoodic peninsula, past Petit Manan Island, and on to the Cow Yard, between Head Harbor and Steele Habor Islands, about 10 miles south of Jonesport. Anchor there overnight. You will be far enough from the mainland that you will never hear a motor on land. When you do hear one it will be a lobsterboat. If one comes near, your wife stands on deck and waves. The gallant lobsterman naturally comes to help a lady in distress. You or she asks him if he would sell a couple of lobsters. Usually he will be happy to do so. It is under the table for him, and free delivery for you. The lobsters will stay alive in a dry bucket in the ice box (your sailboat doesn't have refrigeration) until dinnertime that evening. Steam them for 11 minutes and serve with a fine domestic _methode_champenoise_ bubbly for a perfect marriage of two coasts. Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a MOM CASTS TOT IN CEMENT Most experts voice cautious optimism |
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:31:48 GMT, Cindy Fuller
> wrote: >In article .com>, > "ax_food" > wrote: > >> I had mussels my first time as well at a Chinese buffet, the ones with >> the cheese on them. Since then I have bought them and prepare them on >> my own in several different ways including white wine, garlic and >> butter, and tomato sauce. >> >> All were very delicious, but I have a question. >> >> The ones I had at the buffet were about twice as large and were much >> meatier than the ones I've been buying at seafood markets. Does >> anybody know why? >> >> Thanks! >> This is my first post to this group looks fun >> >> Miles in Oakland, CA > >Those are probably the green-lipped mussels. They're generally imported >frozen from New Zealand. > Frozen? When I have seen them in NY they were alive. I wouldn't expect them to freeze well. And, how would you know which were ok if they were dead? Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a MOM CASTS TOT IN CEMENT Most experts voice cautious optimism |
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sf wrote:
> Did you watch America's Test Kitchen today? They showed a > new use for an egg slicer... slicing mushrooms! That's very > cool - and an easy way to allow kids to help w/o using a > knife. Those of us who watch "Good Eats" saw AB espouse that usage several years ago. Bob |
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Arri wrote:
>>> I don't understand what there is not to like about peas. >> >> They roll off your knife. :-) >> >> Rodney Myrvaagnes > > Don't know who wrote this: > > 'I eat my peas with honey. > I've done it all my life. > I know that this sounds funny.* > But it keeps them on the knife.' > > *alternatively: 'It makes the peas taste funny.' I think that was Rodney's allusion. Bob |
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