I watched in horror Rachel Ray's $40 A Day show in my hometown of Chapel
Hill, NC.

I know they do research, that she just doesn't walk around town in one day
and find all these neat places to eat. That lame bit about her checking a
local bookstore and happening upon Mama Dip's book was just so staged.
Anyway her staff should be shot because they are total idiots for their
menu selections. She goes to Mama Dip's and gets freaking gumbo? Holy shit
that's like going to Louisiana and getting BBQ. No one native to NC eats
gumbo. Isn't the point of the show to eat the local fare? I mean, this is
NC and Mama Dip's is famous for traditional black and southern cuisine.
That includes fried chicken, chitlins, chicken and dumplins, not friggin'
gumbo!

Then the real kicker was her going to the BBQ Joint. Look, if you have
never been to eastern NC you don't understand what BBQ is and how to eat
it. It's slow cooked pork that is usually chopped and mixed with a spicey
vinegar sauce. That's simple enough. It's what she didn't get with it that
totally blew my mind. The *traditional* side dishes are cole slaw, which
she got by default. Another traditional side side and a real must have
when eating BBQ is brunswick stew. Hushpuppies are also traditional. What
does that idiot Rachel Ray get? Well, she didn't actually order it, she
let one of the owners recommend it (obviously that was totally setup,
too). Now get this, he recommends BRUSSEL SPROUTS!!!!!! LAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG, me and my friends who watched the show almost went completely
bonkers. I can't even tell you how damn stupid that is. I mean, I can't
tell you what a let down that was. That is NOT traditional and maybe 1 in
1000 would order the damn things. Hell, most people hate the stupid things
as it is. I have worked in and eaten in BBQ restraurants for 40 years.
Brussel sprouts are so far down on the scale of what to eat it's not even
funny. My 90 year grandmother might eat them, then again seeing how they
cooked them in garlic she might not. It looked like they were going for
that high brow NY style of cooking instead of traditional eat with your
hands BBQ style. On top of that she got cornbread instead of hushpuppies.
That is just wrong. I can not believe anyone serious would come to
central/eastern NC, go eat BBQ and NOT order brunswick stew and
hushpuppies. It's just mindboggling. It makes no sense. She and her effete
staff totally blew it.

wrote:
> I watched in horror Rachel Ray's $40 A Day show in my hometown of Chapel
> Hill, NC.
>
> Then the real kicker was her going to the BBQ Joint. Look, if you have
> never been to eastern NC you don't understand what BBQ is and how to eat
> it. It's slow cooked pork that is usually chopped and mixed with a spicey
> vinegar sauce. That's simple enough. It's what she didn't get with it that
> totally blew my mind. The *traditional* side dishes are cole slaw, which
> she got by default. Another traditional side side and a real must have
> when eating BBQ is brunswick stew. Hushpuppies are also traditional. What
> does that idiot Rachel Ray get? Well, she didn't actually order it, she
> let one of the owners recommend it (obviously that was totally setup,
> too). Now get this, he recommends BRUSSEL SPROUTS!!!!!! LAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> OMG, me and my friends who watched the show almost went completely
> bonkers. I can't even tell you how damn stupid that is. I mean, I can't
> tell you what a let down that was. That is NOT traditional and maybe 1 in
> 1000 would order the damn things. Hell, most people hate the stupid things
> as it is. I have worked in and eaten in BBQ restraurants for 40 years.
> Brussel sprouts are so far down on the scale of what to eat it's not even
> funny. My 90 year grandmother might eat them, then again seeing how they
> cooked them in garlic she might not. It looked like they were going for
> that high brow NY style of cooking instead of traditional eat with your
> hands BBQ style. On top of that she got cornbread instead of hushpuppies.
> That is just wrong. I can not believe anyone serious would come to
> central/eastern NC, go eat BBQ and NOT order brunswick stew and
> hushpuppies. It's just mindboggling. It makes no sense. She and her effete
> staff totally blew it.
>
>


Why were brussel sprouts even on the menu? That's just wrong....

Best regards,
Bob

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 05:18:00 -0500, wrote:

>
>I watched in horror Rachel Ray's $40 A Day show in my hometown of Chapel
>Hill, NC.

>That is just wrong. I can not believe anyone serious would come to
>central/eastern NC, go eat BBQ and NOT order brunswick stew and
>hushpuppies. It's just mindboggling. It makes no sense. She and her effete
>staff totally blew it.

I had a somewhat similar reaction to her Vermont show.

--
Siobhan Perricone
Humans wrote the bible,
God wrote the rocks
-- Word of God by Kathy Mar

wrote:

>
>I watched in horror Rachel Ray's $40 A Day show in my hometown of Chapel
>Hill, NC.
>
>I know they do research, that she just doesn't walk around town in one day
>and find all these neat places to eat. That lame bit about her checking a
>local bookstore and happening upon Mama Dip's book was just so staged.
>Anyway her staff should be shot because they are total idiots for their
>menu selections. She goes to Mama Dip's and gets freaking gumbo? Holy shit
>that's like going to Louisiana and getting BBQ. No one native to NC eats
>gumbo. Isn't the point of the show to eat the local fare? I mean, this is
>NC and Mama Dip's is famous for traditional black and southern cuisine.
>That includes fried chicken, chitlins, chicken and dumplins, not friggin'
>gumbo!
>
>Then the real kicker was her going to the BBQ Joint. Look, if you have
>never been to eastern NC you don't understand what BBQ is and how to eat
>it. It's slow cooked pork that is usually chopped and mixed with a spicey
>vinegar sauce. That's simple enough. It's what she didn't get with it that
>totally blew my mind. The *traditional* side dishes are cole slaw, which
>she got by default. Another traditional side side and a real must have
>when eating BBQ is brunswick stew. Hushpuppies are also traditional. What
>does that idiot Rachel Ray get? Well, she didn't actually order it, she
>let one of the owners recommend it (obviously that was totally setup,
>too). Now get this, he recommends BRUSSEL SPROUTS!!!!!! LAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>OMG, me and my friends who watched the show almost went completely
>bonkers. I can't even tell you how damn stupid that is. I mean, I can't
>tell you what a let down that was. That is NOT traditional and maybe 1 in
>1000 would order the damn things. Hell, most people hate the stupid things
>as it is. I have worked in and eaten in BBQ restraurants for 40 years.
>Brussel sprouts are so far down on the scale of what to eat it's not even
>funny. My 90 year grandmother might eat them, then again seeing how they
>cooked them in garlic she might not. It looked like they were going for
>that high brow NY style of cooking instead of traditional eat with your
>hands BBQ style. On top of that she got cornbread instead of hushpuppies.
>That is just wrong. I can not believe anyone serious would come to
>central/eastern NC, go eat BBQ and NOT order brunswick stew and
>hushpuppies. It's just mindboggling. It makes no sense. She and her effete
>staff totally blew it.
>

My husband and I had the same reaction. Makes you wonder about the
other "traditional" food on her travels.

--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral, 48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

zxcvbob wrote:
> wrote:
>> I watched in horror Rachel Ray's $40 A Day show in my hometown of
>> Chapel Hill, NC.
>>
>> one of the owners recommend it (obviously that was totally setup,
>> too). Now get this, he recommends BRUSSEL SPROUTS!!!!!!
>> LAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>
> Why were brussel sprouts even on the menu? That's just wrong....
>
> Best regards,
> Bob

Hush puppies ARE cornbread, albeit deep fried in lumps. I expect hush
puppies with fried catfish, not with BBQ. Of course I'm in TN, not NC.

Bob, your "that's just wrong" statement reminds me of this ad I've been
seeing for Quizno's Subs. That fat-cheeked baby is describing the turkey
sub his mother had and says, "What did I get? Strained peas. That's just
wrong!"

Jill <---loves brussels sprouts but never sees them on any menu

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> zxcvbob wrote:
>> wrote:
>>> I watched in horror Rachel Ray's $40 A Day show in my hometown of
>>> Chapel Hill, NC.
>>>
>>> one of the owners recommend it (obviously that was totally setup,
>>> too). Now get this, he recommends BRUSSEL SPROUTS!!!!!!
>>> LAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> Why were brussel sprouts even on the menu? That's just wrong....

> Bob, your "that's just wrong" statement reminds me of this ad I've been
> seeing for Quizno's Subs. That fat-cheeked baby is describing the turkey
> sub his mother had and says, "What did I get? Strained peas. That's just
> wrong!"

I wish they'd bring back the Quizno's rats. That baby gives me the creeps.
His head is enormous.

Rachel Ray ... I do like that show, but she almost always orders the last
thing I would have from the glimpse I can catch of the menu. I guess that's
why she has a show and I don't.

nancy

Nancy Young wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> zxcvbob wrote:
>>> wrote:
>>>> I watched in horror Rachel Ray's $40 A Day show in my hometown of
>>>> Chapel Hill, NC.
>>>>
>>>> one of the owners recommend it (obviously that was totally setup,
>>>> too). Now get this, he recommends BRUSSEL SPROUTS!!!!!!
>>>> LAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>>> Why were brussel sprouts even on the menu? That's just wrong....
>
>> Bob, your "that's just wrong" statement reminds me of this ad I've
>> been seeing for Quizno's Subs. That fat-cheeked baby is describing
>> the turkey sub his mother had and says, "What did I get? Strained
>> peas. That's just wrong!"
>
> I wish they'd bring back the Quizno's rats. That baby gives me the
> creeps. His head is enormous.
>
His jowls are enormous! Wonder how they did that casting call? LOL

> Rachel Ray ... I do like that show, but she almost always orders the
> last thing I would have from the glimpse I can catch of the menu. I
> guess that's why she has a show and I don't.
>
> nancy

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Nancy Young wrote:

>>
>> I wish they'd bring back the Quizno's rats. That baby gives me the
>> creeps. His head is enormous.
>>
> His jowls are enormous! Wonder how they did that casting call? LOL
>

Baby's heads are disproportionably larger, but this is extreme. I wonder if
it was enhanced?

wrote:

> I watched in horror Rachel Ray's $40 A Day show in my hometown of Chapel
> Hill, NC.
>
> I know they do research, that she just doesn't walk around town in one day
> and find all these neat places to eat. That lame bit about her checking a
> local bookstore and happening upon Mama Dip's book was just so staged.
> Anyway her staff should be shot because they are total idiots for their
> menu selections. She goes to Mama Dip's and gets freaking gumbo? Holy shit
> that's like going to Louisiana and getting BBQ. No one native to NC eats
> gumbo. Isn't the point of the show to eat the local fare? I mean, this is
> NC and Mama Dip's is famous for traditional black and southern cuisine.
> That includes fried chicken, chitlins, chicken and dumplins, not friggin'
> gumbo!
>
> Then the real kicker was her going to the BBQ Joint. Look, if you have
> never been to eastern NC you don't understand what BBQ is and how to eat
> it. It's slow cooked pork that is usually chopped and mixed with a spicey
> vinegar sauce. That's simple enough. It's what she didn't get with it that
> totally blew my mind. The *traditional* side dishes are cole slaw, which
> she got by default. Another traditional side side and a real must have
> when eating BBQ is brunswick stew. Hushpuppies are also traditional. What
> does that idiot Rachel Ray get? Well, she didn't actually order it, she
> let one of the owners recommend it (obviously that was totally setup,
> too). Now get this, he recommends BRUSSEL SPROUTS!!!!!! LAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> OMG, me and my friends who watched the show almost went completely
> bonkers. I can't even tell you how damn stupid that is. I mean, I can't
> tell you what a let down that was. That is NOT traditional and maybe 1 in
> 1000 would order the damn things. Hell, most people hate the stupid things
> as it is. I have worked in and eaten in BBQ restraurants for 40 years.
> Brussel sprouts are so far down on the scale of what to eat it's not even
> funny. My 90 year grandmother might eat them, then again seeing how they
> cooked them in garlic she might not. It looked like they were going for
> that high brow NY style of cooking instead of traditional eat with your
> hands BBQ style. On top of that she got cornbread instead of hushpuppies.
> That is just wrong. I can not believe anyone serious would come to
> central/eastern NC, go eat BBQ and NOT order brunswick stew and
> hushpuppies. It's just mindboggling. It makes no sense. She and her effete
> staff totally blew it.
>
>

My thoughts were very similar with the Boston show.

Jessica

> wrote in message
...
>
> I watched in horror Rachel Ray's $40 A Day show in my hometown of Chapel
> Hill, NC.
>
> I know they do research, that she just doesn't walk around town in one day
> and find all these neat places to eat. That lame bit about her checking a
> local bookstore and happening upon Mama Dip's book was just so staged.
> Anyway her staff should be shot because they are total idiots for their
> menu selections.

Food TV is all about the host. Once you accept that, you understand the
rest.

> wrote in message
...
>
> I watched in horror Rachel Ray's $40 A Day show in my hometown of Chapel
> Hill, NC.
>

<snipped>

That *was* a lame show. I live in CHapel Hill too, so I know 2 of the 3
places she visited.

1) Mama Dips. Among the worst food in creation and, based on my one visit
there, the surest way to get violent diarrhea. Overcooked, greasy,
unattractive slop.

2) Elmo's Diner. Has managed to bring diner food to new levels of
mediocrity.

And I agree - brussel sprouts with BBQ?!?! That is *really* weird!


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

Nancy Young wrote:

>
> Rachel Ray ... I do like that show, but she almost always orders the last
> thing I would have from the glimpse I can catch of the menu. I guess that's
> why she has a show and I don't.
>
> nancy
>


She creeps me out. She has a show because she's cutsie
and bouncy and bats her eyes a lot. The food is a lame
afterthought.

gloria p

"Puester" > wrote in message
>
>
> She creeps me out. She has a show because she's cutsie
> and bouncy and bats her eyes a lot. The food is a lame
> afterthought.
>
> gloria p

That is not the only reason. She also has a nice pair of . . . . . .
Well, ok, she smiles a lot.

I think that those who write the scrips and do the research should
really be sure to ask LOCALS of the areas in which they are visiting
about what LOCAL foods/traditions are. And by locals, i mean those who
were born and raised with those traditions. I'm from Hawaii, and am a
native Hawaiian, and there are many things that are mis-represented
about Hawaii and Hawaiian culture which make me want to gag. Please do
research before broadcasting it to an entire nation.

"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
om...
>
> "Puester" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>> She creeps me out. She has a show because she's cutsie
>> and bouncy and bats her eyes a lot. The food is a lame
>> afterthought.

> That is not the only reason. She also has a nice pair of . . . . . .

What? Feet? She's this close to being flat as a board.

nancy

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "Puester" > wrote in message
>
>>
>>She creeps me out. She has a show because she's cutsie
>>and bouncy and bats her eyes a lot. The food is a lame
>>afterthought.
>>
>>gloria p
>
>
> That is not the only reason. She also has a nice pair of . . . . . .
> Well, ok, she smiles a lot.
>
>

If you recall, I SAID she was "bouncy"....

;-)
gloria p

In . com> Nohea wrote:
> I think that those who write the scrips and do the research should
> really be sure to ask LOCALS of the areas in which they are visiting
> about what LOCAL foods/traditions are. And by locals, i mean those
> who were born and raised with those traditions. I'm from Hawaii, and
> am a native Hawaiian, and there are many things that are mis-
> represented about Hawaii and Hawaiian culture which make me want to
> gag. Please do research before broadcasting it to an entire nation.


Let's see. Here in Saskatchewan our idea of Hawaiian cooking is ham &
pineapple pizza. That must be close eh ;-)

--
Cheers

Dennis

Remove 'Elle-Kabong' to reply

In > Puester
wrote:
> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>> "Puester" > wrote in message
>>
>>>
>>>She creeps me out. She has a show because she's cutsie
>>>and bouncy and bats her eyes a lot. The food is a lame
>>>afterthought.
>>>
>>>gloria p
>>
>>
>> That is not the only reason. She also has a nice pair of . . . . . .
>> Well, ok, she smiles a lot.
>>
>>
>
> If you recall, I SAID she was "bouncy"....

I've never seen the program but I'm now interested. But Nancy has a
totally different outlook. Room for debate...


--
Cheers

Dennis

Remove 'Elle-Kabong' to reply

Not really. Add Spam!
> Let's see. Here in Saskatchewan our idea of Hawaiian cooking is ham &
> pineapple pizza. That must be close eh ;-)

Jack White wrote:
> Holy moly, that is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. I'm in the area
> and have eaten bbq all my life. The mere thought of sprouts with que is
> just f'ed up. I know where that que place is, it's near East Chapel Hill
> High. The next time I am over that way I'm going in there and asking that
> idiot why he recommended sprouts.
>

Maybe he recommended the sprouts just to see if she'd buy something that
stupid.

Bob

Ed replied to gloria:

> > She creeps me out. She has a show because she's cutsie
> > and bouncy and bats her eyes a lot. The food is a lame
> > afterthought.
>
> That is not the only reason. She also has a nice pair of . . . . . .
> Well, ok, she smiles a lot.

Nice pair of . . . . incisors?

I'm not much of a chest-watcher, but I FORCED myself to check hers out on a
recent episode where she was in a bathing suit (somewhere in Hawaii). I
think she's an A-cup at best; what's the big deal?

Bob

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:13:34 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" >
wrote:

>
>"Puester" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>> She creeps me out. She has a show because she's cutsie
>> and bouncy and bats her eyes a lot. The food is a lame
>> afterthought.
>>
>> gloria p
>
>That is not the only reason. She also has a nice pair of . . . . . .
>Well, ok, she smiles a lot.
>
As Joe Bob Briggs once said, she has two obvious talents.

Actually, I'm starting to enjoy her newer series of 30-minute meals.
She's more relaxed, and she's able to convey something of her family's
connection to food. There's an apparent emotional tie at times.

Also her show with Penn and Teller was a hoot.

modom

"Dallas is a rich man with a death wish in his eyes."
-- Jimmie Dale Gilmore

zxcvbob wrote:
> Jack White wrote:
> > Holy moly, that is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. I'm in the
area
> > and have eaten bbq all my life. The mere thought of sprouts with
que is
> > just f'ed up. I know where that que place is, it's near East Chapel
Hill
> > High. The next time I am over that way I'm going in there and
asking that
> > idiot why he recommended sprouts.
> >
>
> Maybe he recommended the sprouts just to see if she'd buy something
that
> stupid.
>
> Bob

No, they were old and he needed to get rid of them.

-L.
(Who likes Brussels sprouts, wouldn't eat hush puppies, New Brunswick
Stew or BBQ anything...)

When anyone does a show about Hawaii all we ever see eaten is pineapple,
Spam and poi and if they have time they always show a Luau and roast a pig.
I'm sure there must be a lot more to Hawaiian foods but it seems its always
those few things that gets spotlighted. I take most regional food shows with
a grain of salt because I live in the south and all they ever show us eating
is Bar-b-que and something deep fried and while I love a good pit cooked
BBQ,
I do eat other foods and I seldom deep fry anything.

Debra




"Nohea" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> I think that those who write the scrips and do the research should
> really be sure to ask LOCALS of the areas in which they are visiting
> about what LOCAL foods/traditions are. And by locals, i mean those who
> were born and raised with those traditions. I'm from Hawaii, and am a
> native Hawaiian, and there are many things that are mis-represented
> about Hawaii and Hawaiian culture which make me want to gag. Please do
> research before broadcasting it to an entire nation.
>

Jack White wrote:
> "Bob" > wrote:
>
>
>>I'm not much of a chest-watcher, but I FORCED myself to check hers out on a
>>recent episode where she was in a bathing suit (somewhere in Hawaii). I
>>think she's an A-cup at best; what's the big deal?
>
>
> Her ass is the big deal. It's her only redeeming physical feature other
> than her incredibly smooth looking skin.
>


Yer kidding, right? Her butt is huge & way disproportionate to the rest
of her body.

Puester wrote:


snip
> She creeps me out. She has a show because she's cutsie
> and bouncy and bats her eyes a lot.

That and the EVOO and then says "Extra Virgin Olive Oil". I feel like
saying, OK it's 30 minute meals, wouldn't she save some time if she just
said the word & skipped the abbrebiation? Sheesh.

> The food is a lame afterthought.

Ohh, yeah, I like her "easy dessert" too. A scoop of ice cream, a
cookie & a chiffinaud of mint. Fancy.

"Denise~*" > wrote in message
...
> Puester wrote:
> Ohh, yeah, I like her "easy dessert" too. A scoop
> of ice cream, a cookie & a chiffinaud of mint. Fancy.
>
That's pretty fancy to me! My kids are lucky if they just get ice cream
most times - we're on a budget, but I keep lurking here hoping that someday
I can afford more than boxed mac & cheese.

~Shelly~

Denise wrote about Rachel Ray:

> Her butt is huge & way disproportionate to the rest of her body.

*ahem* Some guys LIKE that!

She's got a bit of lordosis which causes her butt to stick out. I don't
think it's huge at all, and it looks pretty firm (though I couldn't tell for
sure without touching...) I do agree with Jack that it's her best feature.

Bob

Jack White wrote:

>>1) Mama Dips. Among the worst food in creation and, based on my one visit
>>there, the surest way to get violent diarrhea. Overcooked, greasy,
>>unattractive slop.
>
>
> It's overpriced, too, probably due to the national attention she got from
> being on the FoodTV channel. The two times I have been there it wasn't too
> bad.

Mama Dips has also been featured in Southern
Living. They're usually pretty accurate?
Goomba

"Jack White" > wrote in message
...
> "Vox Humana" > wrote:
>
> >
> > wrote in message
> .. .
> >>
> >> I watched in horror Rachel Ray's $40 A Day show in my hometown of
Chapel
> >> Hill, NC.
> >>
> >> I know they do research, that she just doesn't walk around town in one
day
> >> and find all these neat places to eat. That lame bit about her checking
a
> >> local bookstore and happening upon Mama Dip's book was just so staged.
> >> Anyway her staff should be shot because they are total idiots for their
> >> menu selections.
> >
> >Food TV is all about the host. Once you accept that, you understand the
> >rest.
> >
>
> Is she the hostess with the mostest?

No, Paula Dean and Ina Garten have the "mostest"

wrote:

> . . . I can not believe anyone serious would come to
> central/eastern NC, go eat BBQ and NOT order brunswick stew and
> hushpuppies.

Well, I love Brunswick stew. At least my recipe for
it. Now as I understand it it was originally usually
made with squirrel or maybe squirrel and rabbit or
some other mix of meats, but nowadays it's often made
with chicken and lotsa folds don't have much access to
squirrel. However, that's neither here nor there. The
point is that it's a *meat* dish!!!! So what I don't
understand is why it would be served with another meat
dish, mainly bbq. (At least I'm assuming y'all put
some sort of meat in your stew and that NC bbq is bbq'd
meat and not bbq'd vegetables or something weird.

Now I don't have anything against eating 2 meat dishes
together. I love meat as much as the next person but
generally when I have a meat dish I sort of like a
contrasting kind of dish for a side dish. And I think
most people are that way, so it just seems odd to me that
Brunswick stew would become the traditional side dish for
bbq.

As for the hushpuppies, well, I never heard of them
being traditional bbq accompaniments. Here in Pgh. in
a lot of the black-owned bbq places it's usually corn
bread and the other side dishes are collard greens and
black-eyed peas and cole slaw and potato salad. People
usually only get 2 of the sides, not all four. But then
that tradition may come from another part of the south.

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Nancy Young wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
> > zxcvbob wrote:
> >> wrote:
> >>> I watched in horror Rachel Ray's $40 A Day show in my hometown of
> >>> Chapel Hill, NC.
> >>>
> >>> one of the owners recommend it (obviously that was totally setup,
> >>> too). Now get this, he recommends BRUSSEL SPROUTS!!!!!!
> >>> LAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> >> Why were brussel sprouts even on the menu? That's just wrong....
>
> > Bob, your "that's just wrong" statement reminds me of this ad I've been
> > seeing for Quizno's Subs. That fat-cheeked baby is describing the turkey
> > sub his mother had and says, "What did I get? Strained peas. That's just
> > wrong!"
>
> I wish they'd bring back the Quizno's rats. That baby gives me the creeps.
> His head is enormous.

I gotta agree with that. What a freak! Rats are definitely
better. Cuter!

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

wrote:
>
> I watched in horror Rachel Ray's $40 A Day show in my hometown of
Chapel
> Hill, NC.
>
> She goes to Mama Dip's and gets freaking gumbo?

Chuckle. I agree that the local food is what to try.

> Then the real kicker was her going to the BBQ Joint. Look, if you
have
> never been to eastern NC you don't understand what BBQ is and how to
eat
> it. It's slow cooked pork that is usually chopped and mixed with a
spicey
> vinegar sauce. That's simple enough.

Eastern NC style BBQ is a wonderfull experience. If anyone
who hasn't tried it ever travels through the area, it is the
number one food type to try in my opinion.

> It's what she didn't get with it that
> totally blew my mind. The *traditional* side dishes are cole slaw,
which
> she got by default. Another traditional side side and a real must
have
> when eating BBQ is brunswick stew. Hushpuppies are also traditional.
What
> does that idiot Rachel Ray get? Well, she didn't actually order it,
she
> let one of the owners recommend it (obviously that was totally setup,
> too). Now get this, he recommends BRUSSEL SPROUTS!!!!!!
LAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pffft. When I lived to the Raleigh area around half of
the BBQ places had brussel sprouts as sides. Maybe *you*
don't like them but they are definitely a local standard.

Edwin wrote:

>That is not the only reason. She also has
> a nice pair of =A0 . . . . . . Well, ok, she
> smiles a lot.

http://www.durzy.com/news/rachelray1...88504395b0815=
aeb68456e1515baf73


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"Bob" > wrote in message
...
> Ed replied to gloria:
>
>> > She creeps me out. She has a show because she's cutsie
>> > and bouncy and bats her eyes a lot. The food is a lame
>> > afterthought.
>>
>> That is not the only reason. She also has a nice pair of . . . . . .
>> Well, ok, she smiles a lot.
>
> Nice pair of . . . . incisors?
>
> I'm not much of a chest-watcher, but I FORCED myself to check hers out on
> a
> recent episode where she was in a bathing suit (somewhere in Hawaii). I
> think she's an A-cup at best; what's the big deal?
>
> Bob

They have a nice shape, IMO. Better than the big ones banging into the
owners kneecaps when they hit 45 or so.

"Kate Connally" > wrote in message
...
> wrote:
>
> > . . . I can not believe anyone serious would come to
> > central/eastern NC, go eat BBQ and NOT order brunswick stew and
> > hushpuppies.
>
> Well, I love Brunswick stew. At least my recipe for
> it. Now as I understand it it was originally usually
> made with squirrel or maybe squirrel and rabbit or
> some other mix of meats, but nowadays it's often made
> with chicken and lotsa folds don't have much access to
> squirrel. However, that's neither here nor there. The
> point is that it's a *meat* dish!!!! So what I don't
> understand is why it would be served with another meat
> dish, mainly bbq. (At least I'm assuming y'all put
> some sort of meat in your stew and that NC bbq is bbq'd
> meat and not bbq'd vegetables or something weird.
>
> Now I don't have anything against eating 2 meat dishes
> together. I love meat as much as the next person but
> generally when I have a meat dish I sort of like a
> contrasting kind of dish for a side dish. And I think
> most people are that way, so it just seems odd to me that
> Brunswick stew would become the traditional side dish for
> bbq.
>
> As for the hushpuppies, well, I never heard of them
> being traditional bbq accompaniments. Here in Pgh. in
> a lot of the black-owned bbq places it's usually corn
> bread and the other side dishes are collard greens and
> black-eyed peas and cole slaw and potato salad. People
> usually only get 2 of the sides, not all four. But then
> that tradition may come from another part of the south.
>
> Kate
>
Haven been born 'n bred in NC, I can attest to the fact that hushpuppies are
NOT served with bbq. NC bbq is pork, in some areas not in NC, it is
referred to as pulled pork, not that slathered cow meat southwesterners
claim is bbq. Hushpuppies are usually served with fish, supposedly what was
done with the coating mix the fish was dipped in before frying. Named hush
puppy to indicate the fried dough was tossed to the dogs to leave those
eating alone until they were done and the puppies could have the leftovers.
Hushpuppies, if done right, are wonderful, if done wrong.....imagine a lump
of cornbread soaked in lard.

IMHO, Revel's bbq out of Laurinburg, NC is the best. Served on a plain
hamburger bun topped with coleslaw. Chase it with a Cheerwine (local soda)
and you hit hillbilly nirvana.
-Ginny

"Virginia Tadrzynski" > wrote in message
...
>
>>
> Haven been born 'n bred in NC, I can attest to the fact that hushpuppies
> are
> NOT served with bbq. NC bbq is pork, in some areas not in NC, it is
> referred to as pulled pork, not that slathered cow meat southwesterners
> claim is bbq. Hushpuppies are usually served with fish, supposedly what
> was
> done with the coating mix the fish was dipped in before frying. Named
> hush
> puppy to indicate the fried dough was tossed to the dogs to leave those
> eating alone until they were done and the puppies could have the
> leftovers.
> Hushpuppies, if done right, are wonderful, if done wrong.....imagine a
> lump
> of cornbread soaked in lard.
>
> IMHO, Revel's bbq out of Laurinburg, NC is the best. Served on a plain
> hamburger bun topped with coleslaw. Chase it with a Cheerwine (local
> soda)
> and you hit hillbilly nirvana.
> -Ginny
>
>

I've lived in NC for over 20 years and the notion that hushpuppies are not
served with BBQ is - shall I say weird at the least? They are not *always*
served with BBQ, but they are a frequent part of the standard BBQ platter at
almost every BBQ joint in the area. If you get the BBQ on a bun they are not
often included, but if the BBQ is by itself then they are.


--
Peter Aitken

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In article >,
"Virginia Tadrzynski" > wrote:

> Haven been born 'n bred in NC, I can attest to the fact that hushpuppies are
> NOT served with bbq. NC bbq is pork, in some areas not in NC, it is
> referred to as pulled pork, not that slathered cow meat southwesterners
> claim is bbq. Hushpuppies are usually served with fish, supposedly what was
> done with the coating mix the fish was dipped in before frying. Named hush
> puppy to indicate the fried dough was tossed to the dogs to leave those
> eating alone until they were done and the puppies could have the leftovers.
> Hushpuppies, if done right, are wonderful, if done wrong.....imagine a lump
> of cornbread soaked in lard.
>
> IMHO, Revel's bbq out of Laurinburg, NC is the best. Served on a plain
> hamburger bun topped with coleslaw. Chase it with a Cheerwine (local soda)
> and you hit hillbilly nirvana.
> -Ginny

Hush puppies are traditional sides in the Lexington/Greensboro area.
Bullock's in Durham also serves them as a side. IIRC, we didn't get
them at Wilber's in Goldsboro. Laurinburg is of the East Carolina BBQ
cuisine: thin, vinegary sauce with mayo-based slaw. The Lexington
style is a thicker sauce with vinegar-based slaw.

Cindy

--
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Cindy Fuller > wrote:

>In article >,
> "Virginia Tadrzynski" > wrote:
>
>> Haven been born 'n bred in NC, I can attest to the fact that hushpuppies are
>> NOT served with bbq. NC bbq is pork, in some areas not in NC, it is
>> referred to as pulled pork, not that slathered cow meat southwesterners
>> claim is bbq. Hushpuppies are usually served with fish, supposedly what was
>> done with the coating mix the fish was dipped in before frying. Named hush
>> puppy to indicate the fried dough was tossed to the dogs to leave those
>> eating alone until they were done and the puppies could have the leftovers.
>> Hushpuppies, if done right, are wonderful, if done wrong.....imagine a lump
>> of cornbread soaked in lard.
>>
>> IMHO, Revel's bbq out of Laurinburg, NC is the best. Served on a plain
>> hamburger bun topped with coleslaw. Chase it with a Cheerwine (local soda)
>> and you hit hillbilly nirvana.
>> -Ginny
>
>Hush puppies are traditional sides in the Lexington/Greensboro area.
>Bullock's in Durham also serves them as a side. IIRC, we didn't get
>them at Wilber's in Goldsboro. Laurinburg is of the East Carolina BBQ
>cuisine: thin, vinegary sauce with mayo-based slaw. The Lexington
>style is a thicker sauce with vinegar-based slaw.
>
>Cindy

I am sure that we got hush puppies at Wilber's. We have moved to
western NC and plan to try the Lexington bbq soon.


--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral, 48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

wrote:
> I watched in horror Rachel Ray's $40 A Day show in my hometown of Chapel
> Hill, NC.
>
> I know they do research, that she just doesn't walk around town in one day
> and find all these neat places to eat. That lame bit about her checking a
> local bookstore and happening upon Mama Dip's book was just so staged.
> Anyway her staff should be shot because they are total idiots for their
> menu selections. She goes to Mama Dip's and gets freaking gumbo? Holy shit
> that's like going to Louisiana and getting BBQ. No one native to NC eats
> gumbo. Isn't the point of the show to eat the local fare? I mean, this is
> NC and Mama Dip's is famous for traditional black and southern cuisine.
> That includes fried chicken, chitlins, chicken and dumplins, not friggin'
> gumbo!
>
> Then the real kicker was her going to the BBQ Joint. Look, if you have
> never been to eastern NC you don't understand what BBQ is and how to eat
> it. It's slow cooked pork that is usually chopped and mixed with a spicey
> vinegar sauce. That's simple enough. It's what she didn't get with it that
> totally blew my mind. The *traditional* side dishes are cole slaw, which
> she got by default. Another traditional side side and a real must have
> when eating BBQ is brunswick stew. Hushpuppies are also traditional. What
> does that idiot Rachel Ray get? Well, she didn't actually order it, she
> let one of the owners recommend it (obviously that was totally setup,
> too). Now get this, he recommends BRUSSEL SPROUTS!!!!!! LAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>

I more or less have to agree with you, being from N.C. Brussel Sprouts
with BBQ was a very strange choice. OTOH, I'd be more likely to have a
bowl of gumbo in front of me then a plate of chitlins. Bobby Flay also
had a segment on the BBQ Joint in Chapel Hill, though he didn't actually
visit. Probably shot the same day by the same crew that was with RR. I
thought the BBQ Catfish looked unusual. It looked very tasty, but not
something commonly found on a Carolinian's plate in my experience. And
with the BBQ, you've GOT to have BBQ Slaw, the red stuff. Cole slaw just
doesn't cut it.