On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 14:37:06 -0800, "The Ranger" >
wrote:

>Damsel in dis Dress > wrote in message
.. .
>[snip using middle-people for posting]
>> Well, *I* like you, even if that other guy *is* always right.
>> ROFLMAO!
>
>/deadman stare towards the Northern Wasteland
>
>I hate you. (And it's a permanent hate, too!)

<Damsel moons Ranger>

(actually, I have NO idea what's going on between you two lovebirds)

>> Carol, looking for a place to hide
>
>Choices, choices. A bunny or a march hare... I can pressure cook the
>march hare into a semblance of food...

It's only February. Nah-nah-nah-boo-boo!

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 17:40:10 -0500, "Nancy Young" >
wrote:

>You and Wayne nailed it.

Do we get something? What did we win?

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 14:41:35 -0800, "The Ranger" >
wrote:

>Dog3 > wrote in message
...
>> Damsel in dis Dress > wrote in
: > > Carol, looking for
>a place to hide
>>
>> Come to my place. We'll cook up a batch of something and
>>hibernate until April.
>
>Damsel and Dog,
> Hiding in a tree.
>K-I-S-S
> I-N-G.
>First...
>
>The "Singin'" Ranger

I am SO hot for Dog3!

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 15:14:24 -0800, "The Ranger" >
wrote:

>Damsel in dis Dress > wrote in message
.. .
>> > Dam'n Dog
>> I am SO hot for Dog3!
>
>You don't know the strength of the Dark Side. Urge to type a Pun too
>strong! Must not give.... AHHHH.

You're the second person this week to try to lure me to the Dark Side.

>Well... You _are_ a Bitch Trollop.
>
>The "Tag-back" Ranger

Tag! You're IT again!

>PS: Is Crash, as your boy-toy Alpha Male, willing to step aside?

For some reason, Crash isn't terribly threatened by Michael.

Carol Skywalker
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Damsel in dis Dress > wrote in message
news
> On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 14:37:06 -0800, "The Ranger"
> wrote:
> >Damsel in dis Dress > wrote in message
...
> > [snip using middle-people for posting]
> > > Well, *I* like you, even if that other guy *is* always right.
> > > ROFLMAO!
> >
> > /deadman stare towards the Northern Wasteland
> >
> > I hate you. (And it's a permanent hate, too!)
> >
> <Damsel moons Ranger>

The Light! Mine eyes!

> (actually, I have NO idea what's going on between you two
> lovebirds)

Let's just say that I'd love to meet him and see if he's as boorishly
insensitive as his posting style. I doubt he is but I've been wrong on
too-numerous-to-count other occasions.

> > > Carol, looking for a place to hide
> > >
> > Choices, choices. A bunny or a march hare... I can pressure
> > cook the march hare into a semblance of food...
> >
> It's only February. Nah-nah-nah-boo-boo!

That's okay, I've got a crockpot and a food-vac for any leftovers.

The Ranger
--
"Why don't you talk to yourself?"
"Because I get too many stupid answers."
-- Abbot and Costello, "Hold that Ghost"

Damsel in dis Dress > wrote in message
...
> > Dam'n Dog
> I am SO hot for Dog3!

You don't know the strength of the Dark Side. Urge to type a Pun too
strong! Must not give.... AHHHH.

Well... You _are_ a Bitch Trollop.

The "Tag-back" Ranger

PS: Is Crash, as your boy-toy Alpha Male, willing to step aside?

Damsel in dis Dress > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 15:14:24 -0800, "The Ranger"
> wrote:
[snip]
> > The "Tag-back" Ranger
> >
> Tag! You're IT again!

I've got a free afternoon and no chores on my Honey-do List. <EG>

Tag.

ObFood: The following recipe is adapted from one that the early Ohio
Shakers made often. This lemon pie, a refreshing finish to a hearty
meal, shows how the thrifty Shakers were unwilling to waste even the
skin of a fruit that had to be purchased rather than grown in their
gardens.

OHIO SHAKER LEMON PIE

INGREDIENTS
2 lemons
1 3/4 cups sugar
pte brisée*
4 large eggs
1/4 teaspoon salt

METHOD:
In a large saucepan of boiling water blanch the lemons for 30 seconds,
drain them, and rinse them under cold water. Trim the ends of the
lemons, discarding them, and cut [1] the lemons crosswise into
paper-thin slices. In a bowl cover the lemon slices with the sugar [2]
and let the mixture stand, stirring [3] once after 1 hour, for 8 hours
or overnight.

Preheat the oven to 425°F. Roll out half the dough 1/8 inch thick on a
lightly floured surface, fit it into a 9-inch (1-quart) pie plate, and
trim the edge, leaving a 1/2-inch overhang. Remove the lemon slices from
the sugar and arrange them in the shell. Add the eggs and salt to the
sugar, whisk the mixture until it is combined well, and pour it over the
lemon slices.

Roll out the remaining dough into a 12-inch round on a lightly floured
surface, drape it over the filling, and trim it, leaving a 1-inch
overhang. Fold the overhang under the bottom crust, pressing the edge to
seal it, and crimp the edge decoratively. Cut slits in the crust with a
sharp knife, forming steam vents, and bake the pie in the middle of the
oven for 25 minutes. Reduce the temperature to 350°F. and bake the pie
for 20 to 25 minutes more, or until the crust is golden. Let the pie
cool on a rack and serve it warm [4] at room temperature.

Gourmet
November 1993

[1] If you have an electric slicer, this is quickly done and the
uniformity for the cuts is almost assured.
[2] I use 2 cups of sugar because my lemons seem to carry a lot of
pucker-power. Some people I've given the recipe to have only used 1 1/3
cups of sugar, wanting to bring out the tartness of the lemons. Playing
around with the measurements is half the fun.
[3] I use a spatula to stir the mixture. The thinness of the slices does
not allow aggressive mixing and it's very easy to end up with
pulpy-rinds.
[4] I also serve a single scoop of French Vanilla Ice Cream as a
contrast to the lemon pie.

*Pte Brisée Recipe

INGREDIENTS:
1 3/4 cups all-purpose flour
9 Tbs. cold, unsalted butter, cut into bits
3 Tbs. cold vegetable shortening (I use Crisco)
a scant 1/2 tsp salt
3 Tbs. ice water, plus any additional if necessary

METHOD:
In a large bowl, blend the flour, the butter, the shortening, and
the salt until the mixture resembles meal. Add the ice water, toss the
mixture until the water is incorporated, adding any additional water to
form a dough and then form the dough into a ball. Dust the dough with
flour and chill it, wrapping it in wax paper, for 1 hour.

In article . com>,
nancree > wrote:
> Also, Google does not carry your e-mail address on your posts. So if
>you need a private reply (some of you ask for that), you'll have to
>include your address in the body of your post.

Google masks email addresses in the body of articles, too. You have
to munge it in a way that doesn't look like an email address to a
computer algorithm.

By the way, you don't have to rely on google for news. Nobody does.
Why do you?

-A

On Sat 05 Feb 2005 12:24:08p, Dan Goodman wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 5 Feb 2005 13:08:29 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Fri 04 Feb 2005 09:46:09p, Dan Goodman wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 22:42:57 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Scotty" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> Dickheads, all she's saying is if you're going to post info about a
>>>>> particular store, then let us know where the hell that store is. In
>>>>> Vancouver, we don't have Bozwick's or Trader Joe's. So when you say
>>>>> "all you need to do is go down to Trader Joe's", I'm wondering what
>>>>> the hell you're talking about. Comprender?
>>>>
>>>> I don't understand ... it's a chain store. Do you have one there?
>>>> Look in the phone book. Online. Whatever. If you don't, you ain't
>>>> going there. No big deal.
>>>
>>> This works _only_ if the chain's store operate enough alike in every
>>> city. There are such things as sales confined to one area. There are
>>> also cases in which city high-ups interpret their orders from
>>> headquarters very differently.
>>
>> It's true that stores of the same chain in different parts of the
>> country or, for that matter, different parts of a city, are often
>> merchandised different. Still, if you're familiar with the stores you
>> frequent, you should have a pretty good idea whether they have the
>> items in question.
>
> And exactly when a store which usually charges (in my opinion) too much
> for the quality offered has a sale?
>
> In the Twin Cities, supermarket chains do not make it easy to know
> what's on sale before you go into the store. There's the flyer in the
> Sunday paper; there are the little ads elsewhere in the Sunday paper;
> there's the in store specials; there's the ad in the Wednesday paper, in
> the section you don't usually bother to read....
>
> And I don't habitually go to _all_ the supermarkets near me.
>
>> If
>> you don't, then you're probably a rather poor observer and shopper.
>
>
>>> Also, it doesn't quite cover the case (cited in the original message)
>>> of someone saying "The Starbucks in my neighborhood is dirty."
>>
>> Your own observation should tell you whether the Starbucks in your own
>> neighborhood is dirty. Why the hell would you care about some place a
>> thousand miles away?
>
> Because I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S A THOUSAND MILES AWAY.
>
> And because it might be in the city and neighborhood I'm planning to
> move to, or the one I'm planning to visit.
>
>>> And it most certainly DOES NOT cover something related which has
>>> annoyed me -- people blithely stating grocery prices of certain items
>>> without saying where those items were being sold.
>>
>> Prices for the same item vary across a range of supermarket chains even
>> in the same city, not to mention across the country. If you're that
>> niggely about the price you should call the store.
>>
>> I don't see what the big deal is.
>
> Uh-huh. I sometimes correct people who think I grew up in New York City
> -- I grew up in the Catskills area. Usually, they don't see what the
> big deal is.
>
> I've known people who didn't see what the big deal is about gun safety.
>
> I may be wrong, but you seem to be confusing "I don't see what the big
> deal is" with "It's no big deal".
>
>> The original request was petty
>
> In _your_ opinion.
>
>> and made to sound as though we "owe" this person the information. Not
>> the nature of newsgroups, to be sure.
>
> Well, it would be polite to give the information, knowing that there are
> people here who want it.
>
>> If I had to research and post the source and price for every damn thing
>> I posted about, I would probably never post at all.
>
> I see. It would be an intolerable burden to say "Chicken breasts cost
> me $1.78 a pound at the Dangerway on Burr Boulevard in Iowa City."

We clearly disagree on every point. It would be a complete waste of your
time and mine to discuss it further.

Wayne

One time on Usenet, "The Ranger" > said:
> Gal Called J.J. > helpfully posted to
> Nancree lament in message ...

> > > "Where is this?"
> > Then ask the OP for clarification.
> > <snip>
> > > "Where is this?"
> > Then ask the OP for clarification.
> [snip]
> > > "Woe is me; I'm _forced_ to use Google Groups!"
> > Then find a new Usenet service, such as individual.net...

> Take a bow, JJ. Succinct and pointed information you posted.

Why, thank you. *Curtsy* It's a shame that anyone had to, though...

--
J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~
"You still haven't explained why the pool is
filled with elf blood." - Frylock, ATHF

Dog3 wrote:
> Damsel in dis Dress > wrote in
> :
>
>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 17:40:10 -0500, "Nancy Young"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> You and Wayne nailed it.
>>
>> Do we get something? What did we win?
>>
>> Carol
>
> A toaster oven like they give away at the bank for opening a new
> account.
>
> Michael

They give away toaster ovens?! Shit, I've had my account for 25 years...
might be time to open a new account! (and the most I ever got was a
keychain)

Jill

"Ariane Jenkins"

<snipping bunches of stuff>

HI Ariane! Long time no see!

I was thinking of you just the other day... hope all is well... not much
going on here other than trying to keep the family healthy. I swear one of
us catches a cold or stomach flu about every other week... Ugghh!

Cyndi

Dog3 wrote:

>
> That remark is mildly offensive. The $ is internationally known as US
> currency. Would you rather a poster puts 'I got chicken breasts on
> sale in the US for $1.28 per pound'? IMO posters are becomming
> waaaaaay too nit picky lately. Next someone is liable to insist that
> posters post the address of a store along with the store's phone
> number.
>
> Michael

But Canada, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, etc. also use dollars...That
being said, in this group, I always assume the poster is from the US, unless
they write something that indicates otherwise. Personally, I would much
rather people snip their posts (I'm one of the ones who has to pay to
download--telephone charges and sometimes ISP charges), as well as quote
from the post to which they are replying, than post their location. And
IMO, Nancree is one of the last people who should be complaining about
others' posting practices.

rona
--
***For e-mail, replace .com with .ca Sorry for the inconvenience!***

"[America] is filled with people who decided not to live in Europe. We
had people who really wanted to live in Europe, but didn't have the
energy to go back. We call them Canadians." ---Grover Norquist in
Newsweek, November 22, 2004

Sheldon wrote:
> Sheryl Rosen wrote:
>>
>> nancree wrote:
>>
>>>> Also, Google does not carry your e-mail address on your posts. So
>>>> if you need a private reply (some of you ask for that), you'll
>>>> have to include your address in the body of your post.
>>>
>>>
>>> Incorrect, merely demonstrating that you don't know how to use the
>>> Google interface. I suppose that's why you don't bother with quoting
>>> when you reply.
>>>
>>> Brian--------
>>> -----------------------
>>> Again, your post is useless. If you have a helpful suggestion,
>>> please make it. Otherwise, don't bother me. (Google Groups does
>>> *not* carry a full e-mail address for the e-mail it posts. They
>>> are munged. Nancree
>>>
>>
>> You can hit "Show Options" and it will show you the return address
>> on any post you care to do this on. This is the default. It's always
>> available, you just have to click on it.
>>
>> I was playing around with it at work the other day (the only place I
>> use Google to read RFC) and you can actually change the default
>> settings to display all posts with header info visible, including
>> the poster's return address, if you so choose.
>
> I only just recently subscribed to Google for Newsgroups, about a week
> ago. When I subscribed they asked me to supply a password, an email
> address, and a nickname. I could have easily chosen to supply a
> munged email address and a nicknmae that no one would recognize as
> being me... same as I could with my AOL acct. or with any other
> ISP/Newsreader. I have no doubt whatsoever that many, regardless of
> how they read Newsgroups, whether through Google or otherwise, use
> munged and/or multiple IDs... phoney baloney is just a fact of
> internet life. But I do not do that, never have, never will... I'm
> exactly who/how I purport myself to be.
>
> Now that I've been using Google long enough to familiarize myself with
> it I don't find it much different from using AOL's Newsgroups feature,
> was just that I was so familiar with AOL's that I could race through
> the posts and make my replys with no effort whatsoever, even while
> multi-tasking. I've used Internet Explorer's Newsgroups feature in
> the past too, Google is easier. I even down loaded the Mozilla
> Newsreader a few days ago and tried it, it sucks, big time, extremely
> cumbersome.
>
> I have my high speed connection through a local cable company, I can
> easily use it as my only ISP, but I use AOL for lots more, not just to
> access Newsgroups... to me it's well worth keeping it for only
> $15/month... 50¢/day.
> Anyone doesn't like AOL, that's their choice, I like it... Baskin &
> Robins has 31 flavors, why do you think that is?
>
> I don't like that AOL is going to abandon Usenet, especially without
> even so much as a by your leave... no explanation whatsoever. But for
> now I will continue using AOL... I'm positive many will not... AOL
> will pay a large price for their fercocktah decision.
>
> Anyway, anyone can munge their ID, and to any degree.
>
> Sheldon

But, Sheldon, you don't get a sig anymore!

kili

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 07:06:43 GMT, Rick & Cyndi > wrote:

>
> HI Ariane! Long time no see!
>
> I was thinking of you just the other day... hope all is well... not much
> going on here other than trying to keep the family healthy. I swear one of
> us catches a cold or stomach flu about every other week... Ugghh!

Awww, sorry to hear that! Hope you guys feel better soon...

Ariane

P.S. Sent you an e-mail...

Dog3 wrote:

> Uh Nancree, not everyone wants their location known on Usenet. There are a
> lot of crazy people out there that just might track them down. I do not
> care much myself but other people may feel differently. I do agree with
you
> about the address but honestly, one can not make requests from 'all' other
> posters and expect many of them to comply. Many will comply, others will
> not read this thread at all. Other posters may ignore the request
> altogether.


Besides which you can usually deduce a poster's location from their
headers...

--
Best
Greg

Dog3 wrote:

> JimLane > wrote in
> :
>
> >
> > The only people who would really have to worry about this is someone,
> > somewhat like you - a jerk, living in a two-horse town and they are
> > both good horses. I live in San Diego, some may live in Boise or in
> > Gunnison, CO. Most of these places are big enough that if you haven't
> > ****ed on someone's foot, you have little to worry about (in fact, you
> > do have more to worry about, just taking a shower or driving to work).
> >
> >
> >
> > jim
>
> Not true Jim. I have several friends from other newsgroups that have been
> stalked, harassed and their financial status, addresses and employment
> posted. One stalker actually began faxing bogus info to a friend's
> employer. This ng is a tame one. Some of the other ngs are brutal. A few
> years ago an asshole posted another poster's bankruptcy info. Some freaks
> actually pay for this info. I suppose it makes them feel superior. If
> someone knows your name and general location, they can track you down.
I've
> seen it done countless times. The worst was a friend in Florida. This guy
> had be harassing her online for a couple of years. She got a call from him
> at work and he was talking about her new car (she had just gotten it the
> day before and not posted about it). She had the phone company trace the
> phone number from her caller ID. The call was made from a phone in the
> lobby of her office building.


Yup, this kind of stuff can happen. A rabidly conservative poster on
another group I frequent was in a political flame war with another liberal
poster. Mr. Right Wing Blunderbuss looked up financials (in this case
bankruptcy, delinquent tax info, court records...) on Mr. Liberal and made
them known to the group. A lot of this stuff is a matter of public record,
you just have to know how to dig for it...

On another group a disgruntled poster in RL worked for a credit card
collection agency. One of her MO's was to pull people's credit reports and
make unsavoury details known to the group. Charges were brought against her
and she was eventually canned from her job, AFAIK this person hasn't worked
in a few years now *lol*...


> This jerk is just pointing out that some people do not like their regions
> or citys know on Usenet.


OTOH you'd be surprised by the number of folks who give details of where
they work, hang out, their daily schedule, etc. Then they complain about
being "stalked", etc. It's a good idea *not* to give such details out in
the first place...

I've nothing to hide but if I were to start my Usenet "career" over again
(and a STELLAR one it's been ha ha ;-) I would post under an alias of some
sort...

One thing I used to see a lot of was posters with sig lines giving out their
work and home addresses and phone numbers. How dumb can you be? Don't see
that so much now...

One real danger area I see is where parents post pix of their kids on
websites or wherever, blithely unaware of the possible consequences. At
least make folks jump a bit through a hoop to access the pix...


> Jerk <- thinks this entire thread is absurd


You are no jerk Michael but I agree this is a silly thread :-)

--
Best
Greg

Sheldon wrote:

>I don't like that AOL is going to abandon Usenet, especially without
>even so much as a by your leave... no explanation whatsoever. But for
>now I will continue using AOL... I'm positive many will not... AOL will
>pay a large price for their fercocktah decision.


A coupla weeks ago AOL claimed that only *1000* of their customers per month
out of 23 million+ availed themselves of AOL's Usenet feature. Surely they
are jesting...???

--
Best
Greg

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 20:41:10 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
<gregorymorrowEMERGENCYCANCELLATIONARCHIMEDES@eart hlink.net> wrote:

>A coupla weeks ago AOL claimed that only *1000* of their customers per month
>out of 23 million+ availed themselves of AOL's Usenet feature. Surely they
>are jesting...???

I'll bet a helluva lot more than 1000 of their customers will find new ISPs
because of this insanely stupid decision of theirs. Heads will roll at the
main office.

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 20:08:57 GMT, Gregory Morrow wrote:

>
> Besides which you can usually deduce a poster's location from their
> headers...

Where do my headers say I am?

--
Dan Goodman
Journal http://www.livejournal.com/users/dsgood
Decluttering http://Decluttering.blogspot.com
Predictions and Politics http://dsgood.blogspot.com
All political parties die at last of swallowing their own lies.
John Arbuthnot (1667-1735), Scottish writer, physician.

Dan Goodman wrote:

> On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 20:08:57 GMT, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
> >
> > Besides which you can usually deduce a poster's location from their
> > headers...
>
> Where do my headers say I am?


I dunno...I'm not interested enough to look ;-)

--
Best
Greg

..

Michael wrote:
> "Gregory
Morrow"
<gregorymorrowEMERGENCYCANCELLATIONARCHIMEDES@eart hlink.net> wrote in
> nk.net:
>
> >
> > Sheldon wrote:
> >
> >>I don't like that AOL is going to abandon Usenet, especially without
> >>even so much as a by your leave... no explanation whatsoever. But for
> >>now I will continue using AOL... I'm positive many will not... AOL
> >>will pay a large price for their fercocktah decision.
> >
> >
> > A coupla weeks ago AOL claimed that only *1000* of their customers per
> > month out of 23 million+ availed themselves of AOL's Usenet feature.
> > Surely they are jesting...???
> >
>
> I seriously doubt only 1000 customers per month use the Usenet feature on
> AOL. If that is the case, only 1000 customers per month have the brains to
> know what Usenet is. AOL is full of shit. They just do not want the
expense
> of maintaing Usenet. I am guessing here but IMO AOL does not want the
> hassle or the expense of manpower to field what surely must be well over
> 1000 abuse complaints from other poster on other ISPs.
>


That's what I figured too. With all the easily - offended types out there
flooding ISP's with nonsensical abuse complaints manning an abuse desk must
be a real PITA...

--
Best
Greg

Sheldon wrote:
> Sheryl Rosen wrote:
>>
>> nancree wrote:
>>
>>>> Also, Google does not carry your e-mail address on
>>>> your posts. So if you need a private reply (some of
>>>> you ask for that), you'll have to include your address
>>>> in the body of your post.
>>>
>>>
>>> Incorrect, merely demonstrating that you don't know how
>>> to use the Google interface. I suppose that's why you
>>> don't bother with quoting when you reply.
>>>
>>> Brian--------
>>> -----------------------
>>> Again, your post is useless. If you have a helpful
>>> suggestion, please make it. Otherwise, don't bother me.
>>> (Google Groups does *not* carry a full e-mail address
>>> for the e-mail it posts. They are munged. Nancree
>>>
>>
>> You can hit "Show Options" and it will show you the
>> return address on any post you care to do this on. This
>> is the default. It's always available, you just have to
>> click on it.
>>
>> I was playing around with it at work the other day (the
>> only place I use Google to read RFC) and you can
>> actually change the default settings to display all
>> posts with header info visible, including the poster's
>> return address, if you so choose.
>
> I only just recently subscribed to Google for Newsgroups,
> about a week ago. When I subscribed they asked me to
> supply a password, an email address, and a nickname. I
> could have easily chosen to supply a munged email address
> and a nicknmae that no one would recognize as being me...
> same as I could with my AOL acct. or with any other
> ISP/Newsreader. I have no doubt whatsoever that many,
> regardless of how they read Newsgroups, whether through
> Google or otherwise, use munged and/or multiple IDs...
> phoney baloney is just a fact of internet life. But I do
> not do that, never have, never will... I'm exactly
> who/how I purport myself to be.
>
> Now that I've been using Google long enough to
> familiarize myself with it I don't find it much different
> from using AOL's Newsgroups feature, was just that I was
> so familiar with AOL's that I could race through the
> posts and make my replys with no effort whatsoever, even
> while multi-tasking. I've used Internet Explorer's
> Newsgroups feature in the past too, Google is easier. I
> even down loaded the Mozilla Newsreader a few days ago
> and tried it, it sucks, big time, extremely cumbersome.
>
> I have my high speed connection through a local cable
> company, I can easily use it as my only ISP, but I use
> AOL for lots more, not just to access Newsgroups... to me
> it's well worth keeping it for only $15/month... 50¢/day.
> Anyone doesn't like AOL, that's their choice, I like
> it... Baskin & Robins has 31 flavors, why do you think
> that is?
>
> I don't like that AOL is going to abandon Usenet,
> especially without even so much as a by your leave... no
> explanation whatsoever. But for now I will continue
> using AOL... I'm positive many will not... AOL will pay a
> large price for their fercocktah decision.
>
> Anyway, anyone can munge their ID, and to any degree.
>
> Sheldon

All of that aside...when you get tired of google, you can go to
www.individual.net and sign up for a free account that will give you most
of the text newsgroups. You will also need a newsreader if you don't have
one. I won't even try to suggest one sinceeverybody has their own
preference, and some people are more "religious" with their newsreader
than they are with theri religion. It's a Ford vs Chevy thing.

BOB
using outlook express and happy with it even after trying agent (free and
paid), netscape (and most of the spin-offs)

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 18:37:18 -0500, " BOB" > wrote:

>All of that aside...when you get tired of google, you can go to
>www.individual.net and sign up for a free account that will give you most
>of the text newsgroups. You will also need a newsreader if you don't have
>one. I won't even try to suggest one sinceeverybody has their own
>preference, and some people are more "religious" with their newsreader
>than they are with theri religion. It's a Ford vs Chevy thing.
>
>BOB
>using outlook express and happy with it even after trying agent (free and
>paid), netscape (and most of the spin-offs)

I use Agent and individual.net. Happy as a little clam!

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 17:39:13 -0600, Damsel in dis Dress
> wrote:

>I use Agent and individual.net. Happy as a little clam!

I forgot to add that individual.net doesn't carry binaries, and I'm
guessing that Sheldon would miss them. <EG>

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 17:39:13 -0600, Damsel in dis Dress
> > wrote:
>
>> I use Agent and individual.net. Happy as a little clam!

I just don't like agent's interface. And to those others out there...yes,
I have actually tried it, free and the paid version. It's just not for
me.

>
> I forgot to add that individual.net doesn't carry
> binaries, and I'm guessing that Sheldon would miss them.
> <EG>

I sort-of implied that individual.net doesn't carry binaries. The only
binary group that I use is alt.binaries.food, so I don't/can't use
individual.net since it would be crazy to use another service for only one
group.

Oh, and I think Sheldon could find other alternatives if he really wanted
binaries. <eg> (too!)


>
> Carol

BOB
who is considering and looking for other alternatives if my ISP/newsserver
doesn't get their act back together soon...

Gregory Morrow wrote:
> Dan Goodman wrote:
>
>
>>On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 20:08:57 GMT, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Besides which you can usually deduce a poster's location from their
>>>headers...
>>
>>Where do my headers say I am?
>
>
>
> I dunno...I'm not interested enough to look ;-)
>

Convenient excuse. Otherwise, why post anything at all?


jim

JimLane > wrote in message
...
> [..] Otherwise, why post anything at all?

Indeed. (My Ironometer pegged itself into repair on that single
sentence.)

ObTopic: Made Damsel's Artichoke Dip; price list to follow.

The Ranger

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 18:05:30 -0800, "The Ranger" >
wrote:

>ObTopic: Made Damsel's Artichoke Dip; price list to follow.

Did you like it? Was it worth the money?

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 19:51:33 -0800, "The Ranger" >
wrote:

>Damsel in dis Dress > wrote in message
>news
>> On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 18:05:30 -0800, "The Ranger"
>wrote:
>> > ObTopic: Made Damsel's Artichoke Dip; price list to follow.
>> >
>> Did you like it? Was it worth the money?
>
>I don't know. I didn't get near enough to it. Judging by the
>licked-clean bowl and the fish-eyed stares of the guests, I'd say --
>yeah, it's a keeper. <G>

Double batch next time, huh?

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Damsel in dis Dress > wrote in message
news
> On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 18:05:30 -0800, "The Ranger"
wrote:
> > ObTopic: Made Damsel's Artichoke Dip; price list to follow.
> >
> Did you like it? Was it worth the money?
>

I don't know. I didn't get near enough to it. Judging by the
licked-clean bowl and the fish-eyed stares of the guests, I'd say --
yeah, it's a keeper. <G>

The Ranger

And Singapore, Canada, Taiwan, Barbados, the Caymans, Fiji, Jamaica, the
Bahamas, Liberia, Trinidad, Belize, Zimbabwe, and Bermuda, I think.


"Ang and Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> says...
>
> > That remark is mildly offensive. The $ is internationally known as US
> > currency. Would you rather a poster puts 'I got chicken breasts on sale
in
> > the US for $1.28 per pound'? IMO posters are becomming waaaaaay too nit
> > picky lately. Next someone is liable to insist that posters post the
> > address of a store along with the store's phone number.
>
> Actually, Mate, the $ sign is known here as an Australian or New Zealand
> money. I never read a '$' and thinf of the States - and why would I when
> it's my own Nations Unit?
> --
>
>
>
>

"Dog3" > wrote in message
1...
> "Curandera" > wrote in
> :
>
> > And Singapore, Canada, Taiwan, Barbados, the Caymans, Fiji, Jamaica,
> > the Bahamas, Liberia, Trinidad, Belize, Zimbabwe, and Bermuda, I
> > think.
>
> Unless the West Indies have changed currency in the past 10 years one has
> to convert American $. If I made an error, I apologize.

The point was, though, that there are quite a few places on Earth
that call their currency "dollars" (not necessarily 1:1 equivalent to
U.S. dollars, mind you, but they still use the name) and/or use the
"$" symbol for references to their own currency. About the only
one I've seen that specifically distinguishes their dollar in everyday
use is Taiwan, where the New Taiwan Dollar is most often indicated
by "NT$" (probably because of their close ties to the U.S., and a
fairly strong American presence at any given time).

Bob M.

Curandera wrote:

> And Singapore, Canada, Taiwan, Barbados, the Caymans, Fiji, Jamaica, the
> Bahamas, Liberia, Trinidad, Belize, Zimbabwe, and Bermuda, I think.
>


IIRC Ecuador's legal currrency is the US$...

--
Best
Greg

>
> "Ang and Bruce" > wrote in message
> ...
> > says...
> >
> > > That remark is mildly offensive. The $ is internationally known as US
> > > currency. Would you rather a poster puts 'I got chicken breasts on
sale
> in
> > > the US for $1.28 per pound'? IMO posters are becomming waaaaaay too
nit
> > > picky lately. Next someone is liable to insist that posters post the
> > > address of a store along with the store's phone number.
> >
> > Actually, Mate, the $ sign is known here as an Australian or New Zealand
> > money. I never read a '$' and thinf of the States - and why would I
when
> > it's my own Nations Unit?
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

It is in El Salvador also.

Sandi

The Ranger wrote:

> And then there's the posters that only put minimal effort into what they
> want to say so they post, "Chicken breasts cost me $1.78 a pound at the
> Dangerway." Do they mean US$? Can$? Aus$? Little difference there in
> rates, too, so posting "sales" on any Big8 'group is pointless.
>
> Your anger and annoyance is misplaced.
>

All it means is if there is a Dangerway's near where you live, and if
you are interested in the price of chicken breasts, it might be worth
your while to check.

There's not a Dangerway's near here, nor a Trader Joe's, so if someone
posts that they got a really good deal there on something, I think
"woo-hoo! What a deal!" and I don't waste my time looking for the same deal.

I like seeing that, say, frozen shrimp are on sale 3 bags for $10 at Cub
Foods. That doesn't mean they will be that price where I live, but at
least I know to look.

It's not that big a deal either way.

Bob

P.S. As far as I know, frozen shrimp are *not* on sale 3 bags for $10

In article >, "Bob Myers" > wrote:
>
>"Dog3" > wrote in message
21...
>> "Curandera" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>> > And Singapore, Canada, Taiwan, Barbados, the Caymans, Fiji, Jamaica,
>> > the Bahamas, Liberia, Trinidad, Belize, Zimbabwe, and Bermuda, I
>> > think.
>>
>> Unless the West Indies have changed currency in the past 10 years one has
>> to convert American $. If I made an error, I apologize.
>
>The point was, though, that there are quite a few places on Earth
>that call their currency "dollars" (not necessarily 1:1 equivalent to
>U.S. dollars, mind you, but they still use the name) and/or use the
>"$" symbol for references to their own currency. About the only
>one I've seen that specifically distinguishes their dollar in everyday
>use is Taiwan, where the New Taiwan Dollar is most often indicated
>by "NT$" (probably because of their close ties to the U.S., and a
>fairly strong American presence at any given time).

If you want ot refer unambiguously to world currencies, you can always
use the standard abbreviations, one official(?) source of which is at:

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...elds/2158.html


Cheers, Phred.

--
LID

Phred wrote:
> In article >, "Bob Myers" > wrote:
>
>>"Dog3" > wrote in message
. 121...
>>
>>>"Curandera" > wrote in
. com:
>>>
>>>
>>>>And Singapore, Canada, Taiwan, Barbados, the Caymans, Fiji, Jamaica,
>>>>the Bahamas, Liberia, Trinidad, Belize, Zimbabwe, and Bermuda, I
>>>>think.
>>>
>>>Unless the West Indies have changed currency in the past 10 years one has
>>>to convert American $. If I made an error, I apologize.
>>
>>The point was, though, that there are quite a few places on Earth
>>that call their currency "dollars" (not necessarily 1:1 equivalent to
>>U.S. dollars, mind you, but they still use the name) and/or use the
>>"$" symbol for references to their own currency. About the only
>>one I've seen that specifically distinguishes their dollar in everyday
>>use is Taiwan, where the New Taiwan Dollar is most often indicated
>>by "NT$" (probably because of their close ties to the U.S., and a
>>fairly strong American presence at any given time).
>
>
> If you want ot refer unambiguously to world currencies, you can always
> use the standard abbreviations, one official(?) source of which is at:
>
> http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...elds/2158.html
>
>
> Cheers, Phred.
>

Where ever you see "D" as the last letter, that is "dollar." Likewise,
there is a high probability that they use the "$" symbol as well.

Interestingly, when Mexico was switching from the old peso to the new,
they used NP$ to differentiate the nuevo (new) pesos. Now, it is just $.


jim

In article >, JimLane > wrote:
>Phred wrote:
>> In article >, "Bob Myers"
> > wrote:
>>>"Dog3" > wrote in message
.121...
>>>>"Curandera" > wrote in
.com:
>>>>
>>>>>And Singapore, Canada, Taiwan, Barbados, the Caymans, Fiji, Jamaica,
>>>>>the Bahamas, Liberia, Trinidad, Belize, Zimbabwe, and Bermuda, I
>>>>>think.
>>>>
>>>>Unless the West Indies have changed currency in the past 10 years one has
>>>>to convert American $. If I made an error, I apologize.
>>>
>>>The point was, though, that there are quite a few places on Earth
>>>that call their currency "dollars" (not necessarily 1:1 equivalent to
>>>U.S. dollars, mind you, but they still use the name) and/or use the
>>>"$" symbol for references to their own currency. About the only
>>>one I've seen that specifically distinguishes their dollar in everyday
>>>use is Taiwan, where the New Taiwan Dollar is most often indicated
>>>by "NT$" (probably because of their close ties to the U.S., and a
>>>fairly strong American presence at any given time).
>>
>> If you want ot refer unambiguously to world currencies, you can always
>> use the standard abbreviations, one official(?) source of which is at:
>>
>> http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...elds/2158.html
>
>Where ever you see "D" as the last letter, that is "dollar." Likewise,
>there is a high probability that they use the "$" symbol as well.

Yeah. But I think you'll find it's only the hoi polloi who use the
"$". A quick squiz at the list I gave indicates it's not part of the
any of the "official" abbreviations for >140 currencies world wide.
(Which is *not* to say it's not part of the official designation of a
currency unit *within* the country of use -- it's just not part of the
accepted *abbreviations* when speaking of world currencies.)

>Interestingly, when Mexico was switching from the old peso to the new,
>they used NP$ to differentiate the nuevo (new) pesos. Now, it is just $.

Like Microsoft's "NT" for "New Technology". Now it's just "XP" for
nothing much at all. ;-)

Cheers, Phred.

--
LID

" BOB" > wrote in message
.. .
> Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>> On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 17:39:13 -0600, Damsel in dis Dress
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I use Agent and individual.net. Happy as a little clam!
>
> I just don't like agent's interface. And to those others out there...yes,
> I have actually tried it, free and the paid version. It's just not for
> me.
>
>>
>> I forgot to add that individual.net doesn't carry
>> binaries, and I'm guessing that Sheldon would miss them.
>> <EG>
>
> I sort-of implied that individual.net doesn't carry binaries. The only
> binary group that I use is alt.binaries.food, so I don't/can't use
> individual.net since it would be crazy to use another service for only one
> group.
>
> Oh, and I think Sheldon could find other alternatives if he really wanted
> binaries. <eg> (too!)
>
>
>>
>> Carol
>
> BOB
> who is considering and looking for other alternatives if my ISP/newsserver
> doesn't get their act back together soon...

BOB,

Don't worry too much about everyone's preference for a news reader. It's
like a pair of socks. Everyone has their favorite but they all stink.

Bret
<being a smart-ass>



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