Anyone have the recipe for making candy like the Ice Cube chocloate
candy? I saw one a while back in the newsgroups or on the web but
can't find it. You know those chocolate candies from Germany by
Moritz that taste so great. They are wrapped in little foil and cost
about a quarter each at 7 Eleven? You used to be able to by a
container of them from Price Club (now Costco) and Smart and Final but
those places don't carry them now. You can buy a container of them on
the internet but they are so exepsive even over the net. I'd like to
try to make some of my own. If you know a recipe please tell.

Here is a link as to what the wrapper looks like -

http://snickers99.tripod.com/icecube_1103.html

Thank You,


James

BubbaBob wrote:
> (James Lynx) wrote:
>
>
>>Anyone have the recipe for making candy like the Ice Cube
>>chocloate candy? I saw one a while back in the newsgroups or on
>>the web but can't find it. You know those chocolate candies
>>from Germany by Moritz that taste so great. They are wrapped in
>>little foil and cost about a quarter each at 7 Eleven? You used
>>to be able to by a container of them from Price Club (now
>>Costco) and Smart and Final but those places don't carry them
>>now. You can buy a container of them on the internet but they
>>are so exepsive even over the net. I'd like to try to make some
>>of my own. If you know a recipe please tell.
>>
>>Here is a link as to what the wrapper looks like -
>>
>>http://snickers99.tripod.com/icecube_1103.html
>>
>>Thank You,
>>
>>
>>James
>>
>
>
> What makes Ice Cubes different is that they contain almost no kaolin.
> Kaolin (half of Kaopectate) is a clay, which, when fired, makes
> porcelain. American chocolates (like Hershey) are mostly kaolin but
> they don't have to list it as an ingredient for some reason.
>
>

I don't think so.
But according to the label, Ice Cubes are mostly coconut oil.

-Bob

BubbaBob wrote:
> (James Lynx) wrote:
>
>
>>Anyone have the recipe for making candy like the Ice Cube
>>chocloate candy? I saw one a while back in the newsgroups or on
>>the web but can't find it. You know those chocolate candies
>>from Germany by Moritz that taste so great. They are wrapped in
>>little foil and cost about a quarter each at 7 Eleven? You used
>>to be able to by a container of them from Price Club (now
>>Costco) and Smart and Final but those places don't carry them
>>now. You can buy a container of them on the internet but they
>>are so exepsive even over the net. I'd like to try to make some
>>of my own. If you know a recipe please tell.
>>
>>Here is a link as to what the wrapper looks like -
>>
>>http://snickers99.tripod.com/icecube_1103.html
>>
>>Thank You,
>>
>>
>>James
>>
>
>
> What makes Ice Cubes different is that they contain almost no kaolin.
> Kaolin (half of Kaopectate) is a clay, which, when fired, makes
> porcelain. American chocolates (like Hershey) are mostly kaolin but
> they don't have to list it as an ingredient for some reason.
>
>

I don't think so.
But according to the label, Ice Cubes are mostly coconut oil.

-Bob

BubbaBob wrote:

> (James Lynx) wrote:
>
>>Anyone have the recipe for making candy like the Ice Cube
>>chocloate candy? I saw one a while back in the newsgroups or on
>>the web but can't find it. You know those chocolate candies
>>from Germany by Moritz that taste so great. They are wrapped in
>>little foil and cost about a quarter each at 7 Eleven? You used
>>to be able to by a container of them from Price Club (now
>>Costco) and Smart and Final but those places don't carry them
>>now. You can buy a container of them on the internet but they
>>are so exepsive even over the net. I'd like to try to make some
>>of my own. If you know a recipe please tell.
>>
>>Here is a link as to what the wrapper looks like -
>>
>>http://snickers99.tripod.com/icecube_1103.html
>>
>>Thank You,
>>
>>James
>>
> What makes Ice Cubes different is that they contain almost no kaolin.
> Kaolin (half of Kaopectate) is a clay, which, when fired, makes
> porcelain. American chocolates (like Hershey) are mostly kaolin but
> they don't have to list it as an ingredient for some reason.

This is utter nonsense.

Chocolates don't contain kaolin. If they did, it would be mandatory to
list it as an ingredient. All ingredients used in formulation of foods
that require content labeling have to list *all* ingredients contained
in the final product.

FDA recognizes kaolin as a safe additive to cosmetics and toothpaste
because it's inert. Kaolin is used to coat paper to make it shiny and
give it body, and is, therefore, designated as an indirect additive to
any foods wrapped in such papers. Likewise it's an additive to many
polymers used in packaging and will be thereby an indirect additive to
foods wrapped in them. Kaolin is not approved for direct addition to
chocolates or other foods.

Pastorio

BubbaBob wrote:

> (James Lynx) wrote:
>
>>Anyone have the recipe for making candy like the Ice Cube
>>chocloate candy? I saw one a while back in the newsgroups or on
>>the web but can't find it. You know those chocolate candies
>>from Germany by Moritz that taste so great. They are wrapped in
>>little foil and cost about a quarter each at 7 Eleven? You used
>>to be able to by a container of them from Price Club (now
>>Costco) and Smart and Final but those places don't carry them
>>now. You can buy a container of them on the internet but they
>>are so exepsive even over the net. I'd like to try to make some
>>of my own. If you know a recipe please tell.
>>
>>Here is a link as to what the wrapper looks like -
>>
>>http://snickers99.tripod.com/icecube_1103.html
>>
>>Thank You,
>>
>>James
>>
> What makes Ice Cubes different is that they contain almost no kaolin.
> Kaolin (half of Kaopectate) is a clay, which, when fired, makes
> porcelain. American chocolates (like Hershey) are mostly kaolin but
> they don't have to list it as an ingredient for some reason.

This is utter nonsense.

Chocolates don't contain kaolin. If they did, it would be mandatory to
list it as an ingredient. All ingredients used in formulation of foods
that require content labeling have to list *all* ingredients contained
in the final product.

FDA recognizes kaolin as a safe additive to cosmetics and toothpaste
because it's inert. Kaolin is used to coat paper to make it shiny and
give it body, and is, therefore, designated as an indirect additive to
any foods wrapped in such papers. Likewise it's an additive to many
polymers used in packaging and will be thereby an indirect additive to
foods wrapped in them. Kaolin is not approved for direct addition to
chocolates or other foods.

Pastorio

In article >,
"Bob (this one)" > wrote:

> Kaolin is not approved for direct addition to chocolates or other
> foods.

What about Kaopectate and many other antidiarrheals? They do indeed
contain kaolin; are you categorizing them as "non-foods" as in not being
a part of a regular diet?

<http://www.healthcentral.com/mhc/top/001771.cfm>

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In article >,
"Bob (this one)" > wrote:

> Kaolin is not approved for direct addition to chocolates or other
> foods.

What about Kaopectate and many other antidiarrheals? They do indeed
contain kaolin; are you categorizing them as "non-foods" as in not being
a part of a regular diet?

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Scott wrote:

> In article >,
> "Bob (this one)" > wrote:
>
>>Kaolin is not approved for direct addition to chocolates or other
>>foods.
>
> What about Kaopectate and many other antidiarrheals? They do indeed
> contain kaolin; are you categorizing them as "non-foods" as in not being
> a part of a regular diet?

It's not my categorizing that matters, it's all about the FDA. They
call medicines by several names, but they don't call them foods.

I agree, not that they're holding their collective breath awaiting it,
that stuff we pour out of bottles to stop diarrhea and other physical
issues aren't food in the normally considered sense of it. So, yes,
I'd say that medicines aren't "a part of a regular diet" in the usual
way we look at food.

Pastorio

> <http://www.healthcentral.com/mhc/top/001771.cfm>

Scott wrote:

> In article >,
> "Bob (this one)" > wrote:
>
>>Kaolin is not approved for direct addition to chocolates or other
>>foods.
>
> What about Kaopectate and many other antidiarrheals? They do indeed
> contain kaolin; are you categorizing them as "non-foods" as in not being
> a part of a regular diet?

It's not my categorizing that matters, it's all about the FDA. They
call medicines by several names, but they don't call them foods.

I agree, not that they're holding their collective breath awaiting it,
that stuff we pour out of bottles to stop diarrhea and other physical
issues aren't food in the normally considered sense of it. So, yes,
I'd say that medicines aren't "a part of a regular diet" in the usual
way we look at food.

Pastorio

> <http://www.healthcentral.com/mhc/top/001771.cfm>

"Scott" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Bob (this one)" > wrote:
>
> > Kaolin is not approved for direct addition to chocolates or other
> > foods.
>
> What about Kaopectate and many other antidiarrheals? They do indeed
> contain kaolin; are you categorizing them as "non-foods" as in not being
> a part of a regular diet?
>
> <http://www.healthcentral.com/mhc/top/001771.cfm>
>
> -

I and most people do not consider Kaopectate or any other antidiarrheal
drugs part of a regular diet.

"Scott" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Bob (this one)" > wrote:
>
> > Kaolin is not approved for direct addition to chocolates or other
> > foods.
>
> What about Kaopectate and many other antidiarrheals? They do indeed
> contain kaolin; are you categorizing them as "non-foods" as in not being
> a part of a regular diet?
>
> <http://www.healthcentral.com/mhc/top/001771.cfm>
>
> -

I and most people do not consider Kaopectate or any other antidiarrheal
drugs part of a regular diet.

See the thread on "Nutella", a chocolate/hazelnut spread that tastes
remarkably like Ice Cube candies only softer - it too has that sme
melting quality.

Lynn from Fargo
Big Ice Cube fan, can't find 'em either.

See the thread on "Nutella", a chocolate/hazelnut spread that tastes
remarkably like Ice Cube candies only softer - it too has that sme
melting quality.

Lynn from Fargo
Big Ice Cube fan, can't find 'em either.

In article >,
"Laura" > wrote:

> I and most people do not consider Kaopectate or any other antidiarrheal
> drugs part of a regular diet.

The question was not whether they are part of a regular diet, but
whether they are being categorized as non-foods *because* they aren't
part of a regular diet.

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"Laura" > wrote:

> I and most people do not consider Kaopectate or any other antidiarrheal
> drugs part of a regular diet.

The question was not whether they are part of a regular diet, but
whether they are being categorized as non-foods *because* they aren't
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Scott wrote:

> In article >,
> "Laura" > wrote:
>
>>I and most people do not consider Kaopectate or any other antidiarrheal
>>drugs part of a regular diet.
>
> The question was not whether they are part of a regular diet, but
> whether they are being categorized as non-foods *because* they aren't
> part of a regular diet.

They're categorized as "non-foods" because they aren't foods. They're
medicines. It doesn't matter how often you take medicines, they aren't
food. I take aspirin, fish oil capsules and a multivitamin every day.
They aren't food. I eat lobster just a few times a year. It's food.
The pills and capsules are a regular part of my daily ingestion but
they still aren't foods.

Food is what we consume for the nutritive value and the pleasure it
can provide. Medicine is what we consume to somehow deal with or
correct an abnormality. Medicines, by definition, aren't foods,
although some foods can also be medicines because of the effects they
can have.

Pastorio

Scott wrote:

> In article >,
> "Laura" > wrote:
>
>>I and most people do not consider Kaopectate or any other antidiarrheal
>>drugs part of a regular diet.
>
> The question was not whether they are part of a regular diet, but
> whether they are being categorized as non-foods *because* they aren't
> part of a regular diet.

They're categorized as "non-foods" because they aren't foods. They're
medicines. It doesn't matter how often you take medicines, they aren't
food. I take aspirin, fish oil capsules and a multivitamin every day.
They aren't food. I eat lobster just a few times a year. It's food.
The pills and capsules are a regular part of my daily ingestion but
they still aren't foods.

Food is what we consume for the nutritive value and the pleasure it
can provide. Medicine is what we consume to somehow deal with or
correct an abnormality. Medicines, by definition, aren't foods,
although some foods can also be medicines because of the effects they
can have.

Pastorio

In article >,
"Bob (this one)" > wrote:

> They're categorized as "non-foods" because they aren't foods. They're
> medicines. It doesn't matter how often you take medicines, they aren't
> food. I take aspirin, fish oil capsules and a multivitamin every day.
> They aren't food. I eat lobster just a few times a year. It's food.
> The pills and capsules are a regular part of my daily ingestion but
> they still aren't foods.
>
> Food is what we consume for the nutritive value and the pleasure it
> can provide. Medicine is what we consume to somehow deal with or
> correct an abnormality. Medicines, by definition, aren't foods,
> although some foods can also be medicines because of the effects they
> can have.

Agreed, but in the context of the original post to which I responded,
the distinction could be confusing:
"FDA recognizes kaolin as a safe additive to cosmetics and toothpaste
because it's inert. Kaolin is used to coat paper to make it shiny and
give it body, and is, therefore, designated as an indirect additive to
any foods wrapped in such papers. Likewise it's an additive to many
polymers used in packaging and will be thereby an indirect additive to
foods wrapped in them. Kaolin is not approved for direct addition to
chocolates or other foods."

All of the examples mentioned are items not taken internally (with the
exception of toothpaste, which is not usually swallowed, or foods that
may have some kaolin incidentally rubbed onto them from the papers or
polymers they were wrapped in). Therefore, in in response to the last
sentence, I noted that there is a substance to which kaolin is directly
added, in significant quantity, that is intended to be taken internally.
The antidiarrheals certainly aren't food in the sense that you take them
for nutrition or pleasure (unless you're a pretty warped individual),
but they aren't in the same category as the cosmetics, toothpaste,
coated papers, or polymers that kaolin was noted to be added to.
Therefore, my question, which merely noted the direct-ingestion use.

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In article >,
"Bob (this one)" > wrote:

> They're categorized as "non-foods" because they aren't foods. They're
> medicines. It doesn't matter how often you take medicines, they aren't
> food. I take aspirin, fish oil capsules and a multivitamin every day.
> They aren't food. I eat lobster just a few times a year. It's food.
> The pills and capsules are a regular part of my daily ingestion but
> they still aren't foods.
>
> Food is what we consume for the nutritive value and the pleasure it
> can provide. Medicine is what we consume to somehow deal with or
> correct an abnormality. Medicines, by definition, aren't foods,
> although some foods can also be medicines because of the effects they
> can have.

Agreed, but in the context of the original post to which I responded,
the distinction could be confusing:
"FDA recognizes kaolin as a safe additive to cosmetics and toothpaste
because it's inert. Kaolin is used to coat paper to make it shiny and
give it body, and is, therefore, designated as an indirect additive to
any foods wrapped in such papers. Likewise it's an additive to many
polymers used in packaging and will be thereby an indirect additive to
foods wrapped in them. Kaolin is not approved for direct addition to
chocolates or other foods."

All of the examples mentioned are items not taken internally (with the
exception of toothpaste, which is not usually swallowed, or foods that
may have some kaolin incidentally rubbed onto them from the papers or
polymers they were wrapped in). Therefore, in in response to the last
sentence, I noted that there is a substance to which kaolin is directly
added, in significant quantity, that is intended to be taken internally.
The antidiarrheals certainly aren't food in the sense that you take them
for nutrition or pleasure (unless you're a pretty warped individual),
but they aren't in the same category as the cosmetics, toothpaste,
coated papers, or polymers that kaolin was noted to be added to.
Therefore, my question, which merely noted the direct-ingestion use.

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Scott wrote:

> In article >,
> "Bob (this one)" > wrote:
>
>>They're categorized as "non-foods" because they aren't foods. They're
>>medicines. It doesn't matter how often you take medicines, they aren't
>>food. I take aspirin, fish oil capsules and a multivitamin every day.
>>They aren't food. I eat lobster just a few times a year. It's food.
>>The pills and capsules are a regular part of my daily ingestion but
>>they still aren't foods.
>>
>>Food is what we consume for the nutritive value and the pleasure it
>>can provide. Medicine is what we consume to somehow deal with or
>>correct an abnormality. Medicines, by definition, aren't foods,
>>although some foods can also be medicines because of the effects they
>>can have.
>
>
> Agreed, but in the context of the original post to which I responded,
> the distinction could be confusing:
> "FDA recognizes kaolin as a safe additive to cosmetics and toothpaste
> because it's inert. Kaolin is used to coat paper to make it shiny and
> give it body, and is, therefore, designated as an indirect additive to
> any foods wrapped in such papers. Likewise it's an additive to many
> polymers used in packaging and will be thereby an indirect additive to
> foods wrapped in them. Kaolin is not approved for direct addition to
> chocolates or other foods."
>
> All of the examples mentioned are items not taken internally (with the
> exception of toothpaste, which is not usually swallowed, or foods that
> may have some kaolin incidentally rubbed onto them from the papers or
> polymers they were wrapped in).

The FDA assumes, rightly, that some of the packaging materials will
become part of the enclosed materials. That's an "indirect food
additive." Kaolin is approved for that situation within guidelines
that can be found in the FDA CFR.

> Therefore, in in response to the last
> sentence, I noted that there is a substance to which kaolin is directly
> added, in significant quantity, that is intended to be taken internally.
> The antidiarrheals certainly aren't food in the sense that you take them
> for nutrition or pleasure (unless you're a pretty warped individual),
> but they aren't in the same category as the cosmetics, toothpaste,
> coated papers, or polymers that kaolin was noted to be added to.
> Therefore, my question, which merely noted the direct-ingestion use.

Kaolin is assumed to be inert in humans and is on the FDA list for
items GRAS (Generally Recognized As Safe). (It's effectiveness in
anti-diarrheals is still a mystery. No one knows why it works, but it
does.) It's not approved for inclusion in foods probably because it
would serve no purpose in food and hasn't been considered for it. Be
that as it may, it can't be used in foods. That's all there is to the
story. If you want to look into it further or want to see what the FDA
says about it, feel free. We're merely going over the same territory
again.

The business about it's being used in American chocolates - or any
chocolates - is pure bullshit. That's where this all started, remember?

Pastorio

Scott wrote:

> In article >,
> "Bob (this one)" > wrote:
>
>>They're categorized as "non-foods" because they aren't foods. They're
>>medicines. It doesn't matter how often you take medicines, they aren't
>>food. I take aspirin, fish oil capsules and a multivitamin every day.
>>They aren't food. I eat lobster just a few times a year. It's food.
>>The pills and capsules are a regular part of my daily ingestion but
>>they still aren't foods.
>>
>>Food is what we consume for the nutritive value and the pleasure it
>>can provide. Medicine is what we consume to somehow deal with or
>>correct an abnormality. Medicines, by definition, aren't foods,
>>although some foods can also be medicines because of the effects they
>>can have.
>
>
> Agreed, but in the context of the original post to which I responded,
> the distinction could be confusing:
> "FDA recognizes kaolin as a safe additive to cosmetics and toothpaste
> because it's inert. Kaolin is used to coat paper to make it shiny and
> give it body, and is, therefore, designated as an indirect additive to
> any foods wrapped in such papers. Likewise it's an additive to many
> polymers used in packaging and will be thereby an indirect additive to
> foods wrapped in them. Kaolin is not approved for direct addition to
> chocolates or other foods."
>
> All of the examples mentioned are items not taken internally (with the
> exception of toothpaste, which is not usually swallowed, or foods that
> may have some kaolin incidentally rubbed onto them from the papers or
> polymers they were wrapped in).

The FDA assumes, rightly, that some of the packaging materials will
become part of the enclosed materials. That's an "indirect food
additive." Kaolin is approved for that situation within guidelines
that can be found in the FDA CFR.

> Therefore, in in response to the last
> sentence, I noted that there is a substance to which kaolin is directly
> added, in significant quantity, that is intended to be taken internally.
> The antidiarrheals certainly aren't food in the sense that you take them
> for nutrition or pleasure (unless you're a pretty warped individual),
> but they aren't in the same category as the cosmetics, toothpaste,
> coated papers, or polymers that kaolin was noted to be added to.
> Therefore, my question, which merely noted the direct-ingestion use.

Kaolin is assumed to be inert in humans and is on the FDA list for
items GRAS (Generally Recognized As Safe). (It's effectiveness in
anti-diarrheals is still a mystery. No one knows why it works, but it
does.) It's not approved for inclusion in foods probably because it
would serve no purpose in food and hasn't been considered for it. Be
that as it may, it can't be used in foods. That's all there is to the
story. If you want to look into it further or want to see what the FDA
says about it, feel free. We're merely going over the same territory
again.

The business about it's being used in American chocolates - or any
chocolates - is pure bullshit. That's where this all started, remember?

Pastorio

In article >,
"Bob (this one)" > wrote:

> The business about [kaolin] being used in American chocolates - or any
> chocolates - is pure bullshit.


No pun intended, I assume?


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"Bob (this one)" > wrote:

> The business about [kaolin] being used in American chocolates - or any
> chocolates - is pure bullshit.


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This recipe is gluten-free, dairy free, vegan, raw, nut free, no-bake, 3 ingredient recipe, 1 minute prep and decadent!

In Canada they are called Icy Squares, you can find similar recipes for Ice Cubes this way....

Homemade Icy Square Chocolates (Coconut Oil Chocolates)

Makes 24 Chocolates

Ingredients:

1 Cup Virgin Coconut Oil
1/2 Cup Natural Cocoa Powder
1/4 Cup Natural Maple Syrup

Directions:

Spray a mini muffin tin with a healthy non-stick oil.
Place all above ingredients in the food processor and blend until smooth (stopping a couple times to scrape down the sides).
Using a 1 Tbsp measure scoop 1 tbsp of chocolate into each muffin tin cup.
Cover with saran wrap and place in the freezer for 2-3 hours.
Remove and enjoy.

Storage – I suggest keeping these in an air-tight container in your freezer.

Tip – adding a couple drops of mint extract gives these chocolates a chocolate mint twist.

DAMY Members - 3-4 chocolates is a treat. 2 chocolates once per week can be had with meal 4 (excluding Bikini Body Members on the last 4 weeks of the program).