Found these at the local "Fiesta" Mexican market:

http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/BigSquids.jpg

Really neat store, lots of cool, inexpensive fresh produce and meats.
It's located in Austin.

I've not seen squid this big in a long time!

I skinned and gutted them, then split the tentacles and cut the body
into thin rings and added them to my seafood stew I made last night,
along with shrimp, chunk crab meat, quail eggs, shallots, onions, leeks,
fresh mushrooms cut in half, a couple of cans of straw mushrooms and
some baby corn, fresh baby spinach, fresh minced ginger, garlic, salt
free lemon pepper, and a dash of white pepper.

Sauteed the onions, shallots, leeks and squid in the pan first with
olive oil and butter, then added the mushrooms, then the canned stuff.
Added the shrimp at the very last so it would not over-cook. Made up a
slurry of corn starch to thicken what liquid there was.

The squid came out more tender than anticipated. :-)

Made too much tho'. I'm only cooking for 2 people! I froze a few
portions and am hoping freezing won't destroy the canned quail eggs. The
rest of the stuff should be fine.

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On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 15:19:10 -0600, Katra
> wrote:

>Found these at the local "Fiesta" Mexican market:
>
>http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/BigSquids.jpg
>
>Really neat store, lots of cool, inexpensive fresh produce and meats.
>It's located in Austin.
>
>I've not seen squid this big in a long time!
>
>I skinned and gutted them, then split the tentacles and cut the body
>into thin rings and added them to my seafood stew I made last night,
>along with shrimp, chunk crab meat, quail eggs, shallots, onions, leeks,
>fresh mushrooms cut in half, a couple of cans of straw mushrooms and
>some baby corn, fresh baby spinach, fresh minced ginger, garlic, salt
>free lemon pepper, and a dash of white pepper.
>
>Sauteed the onions, shallots, leeks and squid in the pan first with
>olive oil and butter, then added the mushrooms, then the canned stuff.
>Added the shrimp at the very last so it would not over-cook. Made up a
>slurry of corn starch to thicken what liquid there was.
>
>The squid came out more tender than anticipated. :-)
>
Do you know just how long the squid was cooking? The usual rule of
thumb is less than 3 or more than 30 minutes, but one hears of
outliers and every data point helps.

Thanks



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


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In article >,
Rodney Myrvaagnes > wrote:

> On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 15:19:10 -0600, Katra
> > wrote:
>
> >Found these at the local "Fiesta" Mexican market:
> >
> >http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/BigSquids.jpg
> >
> >Really neat store, lots of cool, inexpensive fresh produce and meats.
> >It's located in Austin.
> >
> >I've not seen squid this big in a long time!
> >
> >I skinned and gutted them, then split the tentacles and cut the body
> >into thin rings and added them to my seafood stew I made last night,
> >along with shrimp, chunk crab meat, quail eggs, shallots, onions, leeks,
> >fresh mushrooms cut in half, a couple of cans of straw mushrooms and
> >some baby corn, fresh baby spinach, fresh minced ginger, garlic, salt
> >free lemon pepper, and a dash of white pepper.
> >
> >Sauteed the onions, shallots, leeks and squid in the pan first with
> >olive oil and butter, then added the mushrooms, then the canned stuff.
> >Added the shrimp at the very last so it would not over-cook. Made up a
> >slurry of corn starch to thicken what liquid there was.
> >
> >The squid came out more tender than anticipated. :-)
> >
> Do you know just how long the squid was cooking? The usual rule of
> thumb is less than 3 or more than 30 minutes, but one hears of
> outliers and every data point helps.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

It was over 30 minutes as It was one of the first things in the pot
along with the onions, shallots and leeks. :-) I cut the flesh into thin
rings, but the tentacles came out just as edible and I just cut them in
half after removing the beak.

I was wondering if anyone else had ideas on how to prepare these things,
other than the obvious tempura deep fry served with marinara dip.

I know I'll be buying more for sure! They were delicious. Both dad and I
noted that they had a LOT more flavor than smaller ones typically do!

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On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 00:12:14 -0600, Katra >
wrote:

>I was wondering if anyone else had ideas on how to prepare these things,
>other than the obvious tempura deep fry served with marinara dip.

My buddy, Pam made this to munch on during the game ... neither she nor her
SO were impressed with the balsamic vinegar, but loved the rest.
http://www.recipezaar.com/92163

Carol
--
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'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Katra wrote:
> Found these at the local "Fiesta" Mexican market:
>
> http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/BigSquids.jpg
>
> Really neat store, lots of cool, inexpensive fresh produce and meats.
> It's located in Austin.

Ya know, they are just so amazing and beautiful in the ocean, I
couldn't bear to eat them.

-L.

In article >,
Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:

> On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 00:12:14 -0600, Katra >
> wrote:
>
> >I was wondering if anyone else had ideas on how to prepare these things,
> >other than the obvious tempura deep fry served with marinara dip.
>
> My buddy, Pam made this to munch on during the game ... neither she nor her
> SO were impressed with the balsamic vinegar, but loved the rest.
> http://www.recipezaar.com/92163
>
> Carol

Yum! These make pretty large rings, but I'm sure this would still
work.....

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In article . com>,
"-L." > wrote:

> Katra wrote:
> > Found these at the local "Fiesta" Mexican market:
> >
> > http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/BigSquids.jpg
> >
> > Really neat store, lots of cool, inexpensive fresh produce and meats.
> > It's located in Austin.
>
> Ya know, they are just so amazing and beautiful in the ocean, I
> couldn't bear to eat them.
>
> -L.
>

So are shrimp........ ;-)

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Katra wrote:
> In article . com>,
> "-L." > wrote:
>
> > Katra wrote:
> > > Found these at the local "Fiesta" Mexican market:
> > >
> > > http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/BigSquids.jpg
> > >
> > > Really neat store, lots of cool, inexpensive fresh produce and
meats.
> > > It's located in Austin.
> >
> > Ya know, they are just so amazing and beautiful in the ocean, I
> > couldn't bear to eat them.
> >
> > -L.
> >
>
> So are shrimp........ ;-)
>
> --
> K.

yeah, I know.
And cows, and rabbits, and chickens...yadda. I have problems with
all of them. But something about a squid or octopus....I quit eating
tuna when saw a pic of a huge tuna being gaffed on a fishing boat. It
just seemed so brutal and pointless.

-L.

In article .com>,
"-L." > wrote:

> Katra wrote:
> > In article . com>,
> > "-L." > wrote:
> >
> > > Katra wrote:
> > > > Found these at the local "Fiesta" Mexican market:
> > > >
> > > > http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/BigSquids.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Really neat store, lots of cool, inexpensive fresh produce and
> meats.
> > > > It's located in Austin.
> > >
> > > Ya know, they are just so amazing and beautiful in the ocean, I
> > > couldn't bear to eat them.
> > >
> > > -L.
> > >
> >
> > So are shrimp........ ;-)
> >
> > --
> > K.
>
> yeah, I know.
> And cows, and rabbits, and chickens...yadda. I have problems with
> all of them. But something about a squid or octopus....I quit eating
> tuna when saw a pic of a huge tuna being gaffed on a fishing boat. It
> just seemed so brutal and pointless.
>
> -L.
>

Hmmmm... time for you to become a vegetarian!

But, we are rather brutal to those as well!
We take a fresh, living fruit and slice it into pieces with a large
sharp knife, or a beautiful little carrot or onion, then heartlessly
throw them into hot fat or water to be cooked! We don't even kill them
or anesthetize them!

Ok, just pulling your leg......

We humans consume other living things to live and survive. If I were to
feel guilty over ever bite of food, I'd starve to death. :-P

I suppose that milk, dairy products and infertile eggs are the least
brutal. At least you are not killing anything when you consume those.
Animal husbandry practices for the animals providing them might be
questionable, but I raise my own free range eggs.....

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>> > > Katra wrote:
>> > > > Found these at the local "Fiesta" Mexican market:
>> > > >
>> > > > http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/BigSquids.jpg
>> > > >
>> > > > Really neat store, lots of cool, inexpensive fresh produce and
>> meats.
>> > > > It's located in Austin.
>> > >
>> > > Ya know, they are just so amazing and beautiful in the ocean, I
>> > > couldn't bear to eat them.
>> > >
>> > > -L.
>> > >
>> >
>> > So are shrimp........ ;-)
>> >
>> > --
>> > K.
>>
>> yeah, I know.
>> And cows, and rabbits, and chickens...yadda. I have problems with
>> all of them. But something about a squid or octopus....I quit eating
>> tuna when saw a pic of a huge tuna being gaffed on a fishing boat. It
>> just seemed so brutal and pointless.
>>
>> -L.
>>
>
> Hmmmm... time for you to become a vegetarian!
>
> But, we are rather brutal to those as well!
> We take a fresh, living fruit and slice it into pieces with a large
> sharp knife, or a beautiful little carrot or onion, then heartlessly
> throw them into hot fat or water to be cooked! We don't even kill them
> or anesthetize them!
>
> Ok, just pulling your leg......
>
> We humans consume other living things to live and survive. If I were to
> feel guilty over ever bite of food, I'd starve to death. :-P
>



BACON & EGGS: A day's work for the chicken; a lifetime commitment for the
pig. )

Katra wrote:
> In article .com>,
> "-L." > wrote:
> >
>
> Hmmmm... time for you to become a vegetarian!

I was vegan for 4 years and veg for god-knows-how long after that. I
don't eat a lot of meat now, but I do eat it. I try to buy organic,
humanely slaughtered when I can. I have a vegan lifestyle.

>
> But, we are rather brutal to those as well!
> We take a fresh, living fruit and slice it into pieces with a large
> sharp knife, or a beautiful little carrot or onion, then heartlessly
> throw them into hot fat or water to be cooked! We don't even kill
them
> or anesthetize them!

Well, I hate killing anything living. Seriously. I think it's all
beautiful.
I really need to be a fruititarian. ;P

>
> Ok, just pulling your leg......
>
> We humans consume other living things to live and survive. If I were
to
> feel guilty over ever bite of food, I'd starve to death. :-P

Well, humans are omnivorous by evolution, but we have free will. I
just try to make informed choices. I also don't expect anyone else to
follow my beliefs, nor do I think anyone else should expect the same of
others.

>
> I suppose that milk, dairy products and infertile eggs are the least
> brutal. At least you are not killing anything when you consume those.

> Animal husbandry practices for the animals providing them might be
> questionable, but I raise my own free range eggs.....
>
> --
> K.

Cool! We want chickens sometime soon. I want to wait until we are in
a different home, though - this property isn't really suitable.

-L.

On 2005-02-06, Katra > wrote:

> Found these at the local "Fiesta" Mexican market:
>
> http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/BigSquids.jpg
>
> Really neat store, lots of cool, inexpensive fresh produce and meats.
> It's located in Austin.
>
> I've not seen squid this big in a long time!

You should see the ones that washed up on the shores of Southern California
this year!

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/s...uidashore.html

http://www.thelognewspaper.com/news/...w.asp?c=142908

Some of them were three feet long and weighed 40 pounds!

--
Clay Irving >
I'm occasionally callous and strange.
- Willow

Katra wrote:
>
> Hmmmm... time for you to become a vegetarian!

Vegetables aren't food. Vegtables are what food eats!

>
> But, we are rather brutal to those as well!
> We take a fresh, living fruit and slice it into pieces
> with a large sharp knife, or a beautiful little carrot or
> onion, then heartlessly throw them into hot fat or water
> to be cooked! We don't even kill them or anesthetize them!
>

Have you ever heard a tomato scream?

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 15:19:10 -0600, Katra
> wrote:

> then split the tentacles

You split them? How big were they?

sf
who loves tentacles kept whole (and fried up crispy)


sf

In article .com>,
"-L." > wrote:

> Katra wrote:
> > In article .com>,
> > "-L." > wrote:
> > >
> >
> > Hmmmm... time for you to become a vegetarian!
>
> I was vegan for 4 years and veg for god-knows-how long after that. I
> don't eat a lot of meat now, but I do eat it. I try to buy organic,
> humanely slaughtered when I can. I have a vegan lifestyle.

I know how you feel... :-)
I wish I had the property to raise all my own meat!
I do raise some poultry so I know that, not only has it been humanely
raised and slaughtered (I kill them myself and try to make it quick and
painless), I also know what they have been fed!

I get free range beef whenever I can afford it.

>
> >
> > But, we are rather brutal to those as well!
> > We take a fresh, living fruit and slice it into pieces with a large
> > sharp knife, or a beautiful little carrot or onion, then heartlessly
> > throw them into hot fat or water to be cooked! We don't even kill
> them
> > or anesthetize them!
>
> Well, I hate killing anything living. Seriously. I think it's all
> beautiful.
> I really need to be a fruititarian. ;P

But you gotta plant all the seeds...... <lol>

Seriously, you'd die of amino acid deficiencies.
Infertile eggs at least are not really killing anything,
and eggs are a complete food. :-)
I also feel no guilt over dairy products. Those cows
are treated pretty well!

>
> >
> > Ok, just pulling your leg......
> >
> > We humans consume other living things to live and survive. If I were
> to
> > feel guilty over ever bite of food, I'd starve to death. :-P
>
> Well, humans are omnivorous by evolution, but we have free will. I
> just try to make informed choices. I also don't expect anyone else to
> follow my beliefs, nor do I think anyone else should expect the same of
> others.

I understand and respect that. :-) I was just teasing you!

>
> >
> > I suppose that milk, dairy products and infertile eggs are the least
> > brutal. At least you are not killing anything when you consume those.
>
> > Animal husbandry practices for the animals providing them might be
> > questionable, but I raise my own free range eggs.....
> >
> > --
> > K.
>
> Cool! We want chickens sometime soon. I want to wait until we are in
> a different home, though - this property isn't really suitable.

Oh poultry are SO cool!!!
And this way, you know that the hens are treated well!

Chickens are pretty easy, and if you have a large enclosed yard, you can
easily protect them from predators. Mine are all "trained" to go into a
closed henhouse at night to keep the racoons, possums and ringtails away
from them, and by day, they are running around in a large fenced area.

If you want your own dairy products, goats are easier to keep and milk
than cows. The La Mancha (Mexican earless goat) has the sweetest milk.

>
> -L.
>

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In article >,
Clay Irving > wrote:

> On 2005-02-06, Katra > wrote:
>
> > Found these at the local "Fiesta" Mexican market:
> >
> > http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/BigSquids.jpg
> >
> > Really neat store, lots of cool, inexpensive fresh produce and meats.
> > It's located in Austin.
> >
> > I've not seen squid this big in a long time!
>
> You should see the ones that washed up on the shores of Southern California
> this year!
>
> http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/s...uidashore.html
>
> http://www.thelognewspaper.com/news/...w.asp?c=142908
>
> Some of them were three feet long and weighed 40 pounds!
>
> --
> Clay Irving >

Cool! ;-)
Thanks for posting those...

Now how would one prepare a squid that big??? <lol>

I've eaten full sized Octopus, (they sell both baby octos and full sized
ones in Austin sometimes) so I imagine you could probably gut, skin,
stuff and bake one of these!

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In article >, " BOB" >
wrote:

> Katra wrote:
> >
> > Hmmmm... time for you to become a vegetarian!
>
> Vegetables aren't food. Vegtables are what food eats!
>
> >
> > But, we are rather brutal to those as well!
> > We take a fresh, living fruit and slice it into pieces
> > with a large sharp knife, or a beautiful little carrot or
> > onion, then heartlessly throw them into hot fat or water
> > to be cooked! We don't even kill them or anesthetize them!
> >
>
> Have you ever heard a tomato scream?

No, but I've heard Ice Scream...... ;-)

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Katra wrote:
<snip>


>
> I know how you feel... :-)
> I wish I had the property to raise all my own meat!
> I do raise some poultry so I know that, not only has it been
>humanely
> raised and slaughtered (I kill them myself and try to make it quick
and
> painless), I also know what they have been fed!
>
> I get free range beef whenever I can afford it.

I wish we could as well - I like to have control over what I eat - how
it is produced, killed, etc. I can't do the killing but DH can. We
have real concerns about BSE - haven't eaten beef since it was found
near hear a year and a half or so ago. Plus the factory farm/slaughter
industry in the US is just so barbaric/poorly regulated/inhumane. Been
buying some local (ish) humanely raised and slaughtered Buffalo,
though.

<snip>

> > I really need to be a fruititarian. ;P
>
> But you gotta plant all the seeds...... <lol>

LOL...

>
> Seriously, you'd die of amino acid deficiencies.
> Infertile eggs at least are not really killing anything,

Oh, but many a "anti-choicer" might disagree...

> and eggs are a complete food. :-)
> I also feel no guilt over dairy products. Those cows
> are treated pretty well!

I have a problem with BGH. We try to buy organic milk.

<snip>

> I understand and respect that. :-) I was just teasing you!
>

I know! ;D

<snip>

> Oh poultry are SO cool!!!
> And this way, you know that the hens are treated well!
>
> Chickens are pretty easy, and if you have a large enclosed >yard, you
can
> easily protect them from predators. Mine are all "trained" to >go
into a
> closed henhouse at night to keep the racoons, possums and >ringtails

Ringtails? Lemurs? Whuuut?

>away
> from them, and by day, they are running around in a large fenced
area.
>
> If you want your own dairy products, goats are easier to keep and
milk
> than cows. The La Mancha (Mexican earless goat) has the sweetest
milk.

Thanks for the info - I will store it away for when we buy our next
property...

-L.

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 15:19:10 -0600, Katra
> > wrote:
>
> > then split the tentacles
>
> You split them? How big were they?

Anywhere from 4" to 8" long. ;-)
4 tentacles made a good mouthful!
Did you see the picture of them?

http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/BigSquids.jpg

>
> sf
> who loves tentacles kept whole (and fried up crispy)

Normaly I do too! <lol>
The tentacles are my favorite part.

I want to go back to Fiesta and get more!

>
>
> sf

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In article .com>,
"-L." > wrote:

> Katra wrote:
> <snip>
>
>
> >
> > I know how you feel... :-)
> > I wish I had the property to raise all my own meat!
> > I do raise some poultry so I know that, not only has it been
> >humanely
> > raised and slaughtered (I kill them myself and try to make it quick
> and
> > painless), I also know what they have been fed!
> >
> > I get free range beef whenever I can afford it.
>
> I wish we could as well - I like to have control over what I eat - how
> it is produced, killed, etc. I can't do the killing but DH can. We
> have real concerns about BSE - haven't eaten beef since it was found
> near hear a year and a half or so ago. Plus the factory farm/slaughter
> industry in the US is just so barbaric/poorly regulated/inhumane. Been
> buying some local (ish) humanely raised and slaughtered Buffalo,
> though.

Well, if you want red meat, there are always goats! Goat or lamb is
excellent. Try the rack of lamb sometime at Outback steak house! OH my
gods it's SO good!!!!!!!

Emu is also red meat. I have 5 of them and they are not that hard to
raise if you have the space.

Beef is ok, but there are plenty of alternatives.

>
> <snip>
>
> > > I really need to be a fruititarian. ;P
> >
> > But you gotta plant all the seeds...... <lol>
>
> LOL...
>
> >
> > Seriously, you'd die of amino acid deficiencies.
> > Infertile eggs at least are not really killing anything,
>
> Oh, but many a "anti-choicer" might disagree...

Duh?

No rooster, no fertility.
The egg is nothing but a food product.

>
> > and eggs are a complete food. :-)
> > I also feel no guilt over dairy products. Those cows
> > are treated pretty well!
>
> I have a problem with BGH. We try to buy organic milk.

Oh yeah! I know what you mean!
I don't think it's as common as all that.
It was causing a LOT of problems in the cows,
so farmers got away from it.

Monsanto can't force them to use it!

And there is often a milk surpluss. There really is no point in using
that crap. :-P

There used to be some local daries but they closed down. :-( We used
mostly cheese, yogurt and cottage cheese. Man I hope I'm not getting
that stuff! I have enough hormonal problems!

>
> <snip>
>
> > I understand and respect that. :-) I was just teasing you!
> >
>
> I know! ;D
>
> <snip>
>
> > Oh poultry are SO cool!!!
> > And this way, you know that the hens are treated well!
> >
> > Chickens are pretty easy, and if you have a large enclosed >yard, you
> can
> > easily protect them from predators. Mine are all "trained" to >go
> into a
> > closed henhouse at night to keep the racoons, possums and >ringtails
>
> Ringtails? Lemurs? Whuuut?

Ringtail cats. An animal that is local and is in the weasel family. I've
not had TOO much trouble with them, but have had 2 come in and had to
trap them! I normally shoot predators but these are too damned cute to
kill! <sigh> I took them out to the lake and released them...

http://www.desertusa.com/mag01/mar/papr/ringt.html

Oops! I thought they were related to weasels! This article says they are
related to racoons! :-) Gotta love Google...

>
> >away
> > from them, and by day, they are running around in a large fenced
> area.
> >
> > If you want your own dairy products, goats are easier to keep and
> milk
> > than cows. The La Mancha (Mexican earless goat) has the sweetest
> milk.
>
> Thanks for the info - I will store it away for when we buy our next
> property...

I did goats back in FFA in high school. :-) Avoid Alpines! They have the
strongest milk. Nubians are very personable but noisy, and have the
highest butterfat content if you want to make butter, but the milk is
still rather strong. Saanens are the largest and have the most milk
production but again, it still tastes like goats milk.

Our teacher told us that the La Manchas have the sweetest milk. I never
owned any, they were _very_ expensive to aquire, but this was back in
the 70's. :-)

I had Nubians and one Saanen. I've tasted Alpine milk! Ick! :-P That
goat is only popular because it's tough as a range goat. They are just
fine for meat production.


>
> -L.
>

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Katra wrote:
<snip>

>
> Well, if you want red meat, there are always goats! Goat or lamb is
> excellent. Try the rack of lamb sometime at Outback steak house! OH
my
> gods it's SO good!!!!!!!

I used to eat Lamb chops - had friends who were Jordanian and they made
the best grilled lamb.

>
> Emu is also red meat. I have 5 of them and they are not that hard to
> raise if you have the space.

OK - HOW do you kill an emu? Shoot it? I have always wondered about
this WRT emu and ostrich farms.


> > >
> > > Seriously, you'd die of amino acid deficiencies.
> > > Infertile eggs at least are not really killing anything,
> >
> > Oh, but many a "anti-choicer" might disagree...
>
> Duh?
>
> No rooster, no fertility.
> The egg is nothing but a food product.

I read it as "fertile"...duh on me!

> > I have a problem with BGH. We try to buy organic milk.
>
> Oh yeah! I know what you mean!
> I don't think it's as common as all that.
> It was causing a LOT of problems in the cows,
> so farmers got away from it.
>
> Monsanto can't force them to use it!
>
> And there is often a milk surpluss. There really is no point in using

> that crap. :-P

I know - I will have to check the local supply. It was in everything
in the Midwest when I left in '98. I've opurchased organic since, so I
don't really know if it's in the milk here (Portland, OR).

> >
> > Ringtails? Lemurs? Whuuut?
>
> Ringtail cats. An animal that is local and is in the weasel family.
I've
> not had TOO much trouble with them, but have had 2 come in and had to

> trap them! I normally shoot predators but these are too damned cute
to
> kill! <sigh> I took them out to the lake and released them...
>
> http://www.desertusa.com/mag01/mar/papr/ringt.html
>
> Oops! I thought they were related to weasels! This article says they
are
> related to racoons! :-) Gotta love Google...
>

Wow - I never knew this animal existed and I'm an animal rights
activist...looks like a cross between a ringtailed lemur, coon and
fox...

>
> I did goats back in FFA in high school. :-) Avoid Alpines! They have
the
> strongest milk. Nubians are very personable but noisy, and have the
> highest butterfat content if you want to make butter, but the milk is

> still rather strong. Saanens are the largest and have the most milk
> production but again, it still tastes like goats milk.
>
> Our teacher told us that the La Manchas have the sweetest milk. I
never
> owned any, they were _very_ expensive to aquire, but this was back in

> the 70's. :-)
>
> I had Nubians and one Saanen. I've tasted Alpine milk! Ick! :-P That
> goat is only popular because it's tough as a range goat. They are
just
> fine for meat production.
>

Interesting! Goats are so cute. I love the minature ones - just
precious. I wouldn't mind having a goat for milk. We once spent time
in a cabin on the Appalachian trail - they had goats tethered in the
yard. I had such a fun time that weekend playing with them.

-L.

On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 03:29:14 -0600, Katra
> wrote:

>
>Beef is ok, but there are plenty of alternatives.
>
We have local farmers that bring in lamb and bison that eat onlyt
grass. Both delicious. Also the ducks from Quattro's are as red meat
as there is.

Unless you count bison as beef, I haven't eaten beef in 5 years, and
haven't missed it.

Sorry, one exception. We were sampling barbecue at Blue Smoke, and the
Texas 'cue was beef short ribs.



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Katra > wrote:

> Found these at the local "Fiesta" Mexican market:
>
> http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/BigSquids.jpg
>
> Really neat store, lots of cool, inexpensive fresh produce and meats.
> It's located in Austin.
>
> I've not seen squid this big in a long time!
>
> I skinned and gutted them,

How did you skin them, they have whole giant squid at the Aisian
supermarker near my house?

In article .com>,
"-L." > wrote:

> Katra wrote:
> <snip>
>
> >
> > Well, if you want red meat, there are always goats! Goat or lamb is
> > excellent. Try the rack of lamb sometime at Outback steak house! OH
> my
> > gods it's SO good!!!!!!!
>
> I used to eat Lamb chops - had friends who were Jordanian and they made
> the best grilled lamb.

What spices? Any recall? :-)

>
> >
> > Emu is also red meat. I have 5 of them and they are not that hard to
> > raise if you have the space.
>
> OK - HOW do you kill an emu? Shoot it? I have always wondered about
> this WRT emu and ostrich farms.

Shooting it in the head works but is messy. :-P
They are SO primitive, they kick forever and bruise the meat!

A heart/lung shot has been found to be the most peaceful for slaughter.
No struggling. They walk a few steps as if nothing has happened, stumble
a bit and go down, then just lean over and die... I've learned to prefer
that way.

You can also catch them and do them like any other poultry, secure the
feet well, hang them up, and just cut the throat.

Of course you are talking about a 130 lb. bird that is strong and
powerful! It can be done (I've seen it done that way) but it takes two
STRONG and cooridinated men that know how to handle these birds!

>
>
> > > >
> > > > Seriously, you'd die of amino acid deficiencies.
> > > > Infertile eggs at least are not really killing anything,
> > >
> > > Oh, but many a "anti-choicer" might disagree...
> >
> > Duh?
> >
> > No rooster, no fertility.
> > The egg is nothing but a food product.
>
> I read it as "fertile"...duh on me!

Oh! Sorry! ;-)


> > >
> > > Ringtails? Lemurs? Whuuut?
> >
> > Ringtail cats. An animal that is local and is in the weasel family.
> I've
> > not had TOO much trouble with them, but have had 2 come in and had to
>
> > trap them! I normally shoot predators but these are too damned cute
> to
> > kill! <sigh> I took them out to the lake and released them...
> >
> > http://www.desertusa.com/mag01/mar/papr/ringt.html
> >
> > Oops! I thought they were related to weasels! This article says they
> are
> > related to racoons! :-) Gotta love Google...
> >
>
> Wow - I never knew this animal existed and I'm an animal rights
> activist...looks like a cross between a ringtailed lemur, coon and
> fox...

They are adorable! Smart too! The last one killed about 6 of my pigeons,
most of my quail and about 6 young poults before I managed to live trap
the little bitch! She kept springing the trap without getting caught. I
finally tied what was left of one of it's kills to the roof of the
havahart box trap so it had to work to get the bait loose! Right over
the trip pan... That worked! <eg>

The paws look just like a cats paws and they hiss, spit and growl
sounding just like a PO'd house cat! So cute... I really should have
shot it, but just could not. They are heart-meltingly cute! That and I
think they are still on the "threatened" species list.

We took it to canyon lake and released it, much to the delight of
several people at the lakeshore. :-) You really don't get to see these
that often even tho' they are native. They are very strictly nocturnal,
and roadkills of them are rare. I've seen a couple only in the past 25
years.

One guy at the lake suspected I was releasing a domesticated animal.
<lol> Took me awhile to convince him I was not abandoning some pet! He'd
never seen nor heard of these dudes either.

>
> >
> > I did goats back in FFA in high school. :-) Avoid Alpines! They have
> the
> > strongest milk. Nubians are very personable but noisy, and have the
> > highest butterfat content if you want to make butter, but the milk is
>
> > still rather strong. Saanens are the largest and have the most milk
> > production but again, it still tastes like goats milk.
> >
> > Our teacher told us that the La Manchas have the sweetest milk. I
> never
> > owned any, they were _very_ expensive to aquire, but this was back in
>
> > the 70's. :-)
> >
> > I had Nubians and one Saanen. I've tasted Alpine milk! Ick! :-P That
> > goat is only popular because it's tough as a range goat. They are
> just
> > fine for meat production.
> >
>
> Interesting! Goats are so cute. I love the minature ones - just
> precious. I wouldn't mind having a goat for milk. We once spent time
> in a cabin on the Appalachian trail - they had goats tethered in the
> yard. I had such a fun time that weekend playing with them.
>
> -L.

Yeah, nanny goats are cute and personable!
Wait 'till you get to meet a breeding billy tho'! <lol>
"Nasty" critters is putting it mildly! Oh they are tame enough but,
well, you'd have to meet one to understand!

If you want to keep a nanny or two as pets and for milk, you will have
to have them bred from time to time to keep them in milk so just make
sure you stay in touch with someone with a male kept for breeding. ;-)

And give the Nanny a bath when she gets back......... <G>


>

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In article >,
Rodney Myrvaagnes > wrote:

> On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 03:29:14 -0600, Katra
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >Beef is ok, but there are plenty of alternatives.
> >
> We have local farmers that bring in lamb and bison that eat onlyt
> grass. Both delicious. Also the ducks from Quattro's are as red meat
> as there is.

Mmmm... especially Muscovies. :-)
I just got more muscovie hens so I need to get an incubator set up again.
I'd like to raise a few for meat this year!

>
> Unless you count bison as beef, I haven't eaten beef in 5 years, and
> haven't missed it.

It's odd... I DO love a good steak, but seem to have lost my taste for
beef somewhat lately. I might just be getting spoiled. ;-)

>
> Sorry, one exception. We were sampling barbecue at Blue Smoke, and the
> Texas 'cue was beef short ribs.
>
>
>
> Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a
>
>
> "Be careful. The toe you stepped on yesterday may be connected to the ass you
> have to kiss today." --Former mayor Ciancia

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In article >,
(The Wolf) wrote:

> Katra > wrote:
>
> > Found these at the local "Fiesta" Mexican market:
> >
> > http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/BigSquids.jpg
> >
> > Really neat store, lots of cool, inexpensive fresh produce and meats.
> > It's located in Austin.
> >
> > I've not seen squid this big in a long time!
> >
> > I skinned and gutted them,
>
> How did you skin them, they have whole giant squid at the Aisian
> supermarker near my house?
>
>

Ok... squid prep! :-)

First, cut off the head fairly close to the tube/body.

Cut the tentacle ring away from the head and discard the head. Spread
out the center of the tentacles and make sure you remove the beak, and
any of the entrails you may have missed.

Take the tube body and turn it inside out. Cut away the "guts" from the
body wall. (It's pretty easy to tell) and look for the clear, hard
"spine" in the membrane along the back. Be sure to remove it all the way
from top to bottom.

Turn it back rightside out. Loosen the grayish outer "skin" (membrane)
from around the mouth of the tube body. Once you have it worked loose
all the way around, the "skin" will usually pull off all in one piece.

Cut and prepare the meat then as desired. I don't usually bother
skinning the tentacles.

Next time I do some, I'll take pictures and post the series. :-)

Kat

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Thanks.

Katra > wrote:

> In article >,
> (The Wolf) wrote:
>
> > Katra > wrote:
> >
> > > Found these at the local "Fiesta" Mexican market:
> > >
> > > http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/BigSquids.jpg
> > >
> > > Really neat store, lots of cool, inexpensive fresh produce and meats.
> > > It's located in Austin.
> > >
> > > I've not seen squid this big in a long time!
> > >
> > > I skinned and gutted them,
> >
> > How did you skin them, they have whole giant squid at the Aisian
> > supermarker near my house?
> >
> >
>
> Ok... squid prep! :-)
>
> First, cut off the head fairly close to the tube/body.
>
> Cut the tentacle ring away from the head and discard the head. Spread
> out the center of the tentacles and make sure you remove the beak, and
> any of the entrails you may have missed.
>
> Take the tube body and turn it inside out. Cut away the "guts" from the
> body wall. (It's pretty easy to tell) and look for the clear, hard
> "spine" in the membrane along the back. Be sure to remove it all the way
> from top to bottom.
>
> Turn it back rightside out. Loosen the grayish outer "skin" (membrane)
> from around the mouth of the tube body. Once you have it worked loose
> all the way around, the "skin" will usually pull off all in one piece.
>
> Cut and prepare the meat then as desired. I don't usually bother
> skinning the tentacles.
>
> Next time I do some, I'll take pictures and post the series. :-)
>
> Kat

On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 01:16:03 -0600, Katra
> wrote:

>In article >,
> Rodney Myrvaagnes > wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 03:29:14 -0600, Katra
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Beef is ok, but there are plenty of alternatives.
>> >
>> We have local farmers that bring in lamb and bison that eat onlyt
>> grass. Both delicious. Also the ducks from Quattro's are as red meat
>> as there is.
>
>Mmmm... especially Muscovies. :-)
>I just got more muscovie hens so I need to get an incubator set up again.
>I'd like to raise a few for meat this year!
>
Yes. Quattro's raises Muscovy and Peking. The one we got Saturday was
a Muscovy. On Sunday we had duck breast grilled rare. I dismembered
the remainder, saving the leg-thigh pieces, and browned the carcass in
the oven, while rendering the fat from the skin, etc in a pot.

Yesterday I made stock using the carcass, and used some of it making
risotto with the leg/thigh pieces for dinner. Now I have a good-sized
stash of duck fat, and maybe two qts of stock.

Next Saturday I will get another muscovy, take it apart, and cure the
breast in the fridge ("duck ham") and make confit with legs and wings.
Another stock from the carcass.

I have two pheasant carcasses in the freezer. Those will become stock
for risotto or farrotto. Pheasants have still made my most successful
rosotto.

My feeling about poultry is increasingly that whatever we want to eat,
get a whole bird and cut off what you want. The carcass can be frozen
until you have time to make stock.



Rodney Myrvaagnes Opinionated old geezer

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margins. Only in a truly advanced democracy can
one win an election by a negative 600,000 votes.

Welcome! :-)

In article >,
(The Wolf) wrote:

> Thanks.
>
> Katra > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > (The Wolf) wrote:
> >
> > > Katra > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Found these at the local "Fiesta" Mexican market:
> > > >
> > > > http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/BigSquids.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Really neat store, lots of cool, inexpensive fresh produce and meats.
> > > > It's located in Austin.
> > > >
> > > > I've not seen squid this big in a long time!
> > > >
> > > > I skinned and gutted them,
> > >
> > > How did you skin them, they have whole giant squid at the Aisian
> > > supermarker near my house?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Ok... squid prep! :-)
> >
> > First, cut off the head fairly close to the tube/body.
> >
> > Cut the tentacle ring away from the head and discard the head. Spread
> > out the center of the tentacles and make sure you remove the beak, and
> > any of the entrails you may have missed.
> >
> > Take the tube body and turn it inside out. Cut away the "guts" from the
> > body wall. (It's pretty easy to tell) and look for the clear, hard
> > "spine" in the membrane along the back. Be sure to remove it all the way
> > from top to bottom.
> >
> > Turn it back rightside out. Loosen the grayish outer "skin" (membrane)
> > from around the mouth of the tube body. Once you have it worked loose
> > all the way around, the "skin" will usually pull off all in one piece.
> >
> > Cut and prepare the meat then as desired. I don't usually bother
> > skinning the tentacles.
> >
> > Next time I do some, I'll take pictures and post the series. :-)
> >
> > Kat

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"Katra"
<snip>
> Ok... squid prep! :-)
>
> First, cut off the head fairly close to the tube/body.
>
> Cut the tentacle ring away from the head and discard the head. Spread
> out the center of the tentacles and make sure you remove the beak, and
> any of the entrails you may have missed.
>
> Take the tube body and turn it inside out. Cut away the "guts" from the
> body wall. (It's pretty easy to tell) and look for the clear, hard
> "spine" in the membrane along the back. Be sure to remove it all the way
> from top to bottom.
>
> Turn it back rightside out. Loosen the grayish outer "skin" (membrane)
> from around the mouth of the tube body. Once you have it worked loose
> all the way around, the "skin" will usually pull off all in one piece.
>
> Cut and prepare the meat then as desired. I don't usually bother
> skinning the tentacles.
>
> Next time I do some, I'll take pictures and post the series. :-)
>
> Kat
=================

YES!!! Please take pictures next time! How cool!!

Cyndi

In article >,
Rodney Myrvaagnes > wrote:

> On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 01:16:03 -0600, Katra
> > wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> > Rodney Myrvaagnes > wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 03:29:14 -0600, Katra
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Beef is ok, but there are plenty of alternatives.
> >> >
> >> We have local farmers that bring in lamb and bison that eat onlyt
> >> grass. Both delicious. Also the ducks from Quattro's are as red meat
> >> as there is.
> >
> >Mmmm... especially Muscovies. :-)
> >I just got more muscovie hens so I need to get an incubator set up again.
> >I'd like to raise a few for meat this year!
> >
> Yes. Quattro's raises Muscovy and Peking. The one we got Saturday was
> a Muscovy. On Sunday we had duck breast grilled rare. I dismembered
> the remainder, saving the leg-thigh pieces, and browned the carcass in
> the oven, while rendering the fat from the skin, etc in a pot.

Muscovie meat is a bit richer than pekin duck! And the meat yield is
also better since that breed it so much larger! A full sized drake is
almost as large as a goose!

>
> Yesterday I made stock using the carcass, and used some of it making
> risotto with the leg/thigh pieces for dinner. Now I have a good-sized
> stash of duck fat, and maybe two qts of stock.

Oh yeah baby! :-)
Rice cooked with that stock would be excellent!

>
> Next Saturday I will get another muscovy, take it apart, and cure the
> breast in the fridge ("duck ham") and make confit with legs and wings.
> Another stock from the carcass.
>
> I have two pheasant carcasses in the freezer. Those will become stock
> for risotto or farrotto. Pheasants have still made my most successful
> rosotto.

I've done guineas, but not pheasants. They are supposed to be very
similar.

>
> My feeling about poultry is increasingly that whatever we want to eat,
> get a whole bird and cut off what you want. The carcass can be frozen
> until you have time to make stock.

But not too long...
Cooked meat tends to freezer burn faster!

But, that is yet another good reason to get a Tilia. <G>

>
>
>
> Rodney Myrvaagnes Opinionated old geezer
>
> Brutal dictators are routinely reelected by 90+%
> margins. Only in a truly advanced democracy can
> one win an election by a negative 600,000 votes.

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In article <V_tOd.14527$uc.8393@trnddc05>,
"Rick & Cyndi" > wrote:

> "Katra"
> <snip>
> > Ok... squid prep! :-)
> >
> > First, cut off the head fairly close to the tube/body.
> >
> > Cut the tentacle ring away from the head and discard the head. Spread
> > out the center of the tentacles and make sure you remove the beak, and
> > any of the entrails you may have missed.
> >
> > Take the tube body and turn it inside out. Cut away the "guts" from the
> > body wall. (It's pretty easy to tell) and look for the clear, hard
> > "spine" in the membrane along the back. Be sure to remove it all the way
> > from top to bottom.
> >
> > Turn it back rightside out. Loosen the grayish outer "skin" (membrane)
> > from around the mouth of the tube body. Once you have it worked loose
> > all the way around, the "skin" will usually pull off all in one piece.
> >
> > Cut and prepare the meat then as desired. I don't usually bother
> > skinning the tentacles.
> >
> > Next time I do some, I'll take pictures and post the series. :-)
> >
> > Kat
> =================
>
> YES!!! Please take pictures next time! How cool!!
>
> Cyndi
>
>

Ok! :-) I promise!
I have to work this weekend, but hope to be able to go to Austin early
next week. I'll go to Fiesta and hope they have more... <lol> I'd rather
get fresh than the frozen ones from the Oriental market. Some of that
stuff has been frozen a LONG time!

Digicams are handy things! I just bought myself one for Christmas
finally.....

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Katra wrote:
> In article .com>,
> "-L." > wrote:
>
> > Katra wrote:
> > <snip>
> >
> > >
> > > Well, if you want red meat, there are always goats! Goat or lamb
is
> > > excellent. Try the rack of lamb sometime at Outback steak house!
OH
> > my
> > > gods it's SO good!!!!!!!
> >
> > I used to eat Lamb chops - had friends who were Jordanian and they
made
> > the best grilled lamb.
>
> What spices? Any recall? :-)

Fresh emon juice, garlic and pepper marinade - LOTS of garlic. Grill
without basting on medium coals.



>
> Shooting it in the head works but is messy. :-P
> They are SO primitive, they kick forever and bruise the meat!

NOT a pretty visual!

>
> A heart/lung shot has been found to be the most peaceful for
slaughter.
> No struggling. They walk a few steps as if nothing has happened,
stumble
> a bit and go down, then just lean over and die... I've learned to
prefer
> that way.
>
> You can also catch them and do them like any other poultry, secure
the
> feet well, hang them up, and just cut the throat.
>
> Of course you are talking about a 130 lb. bird that is strong and
> powerful! It can be done (I've seen it done that way) but it takes
two
> STRONG and cooridinated men that know how to handle these birds!

Sounds pretty gruesome. I like the slaughtering methods wherein the
animals don't know what happened, TYVM!


<snip>

> Yeah, nanny goats are cute and personable!
> Wait 'till you get to meet a breeding billy tho'! <lol>
> "Nasty" critters is putting it mildly! Oh they are tame enough >but,
> well, you'd have to meet one to understand!
>
> If you want to keep a nanny or two as pets and for milk, you will
have
> to have them bred from time to time to keep them in milk so just make

> sure you stay in touch with someone with a male kept for breeding.
;-)
>
> And give the Nanny a bath when she gets back......... <G>

Eeeew.....just eeew! ;p

-L.

In article .com>,
"-L." > wrote:


> > >
> > > I used to eat Lamb chops - had friends who were Jordanian and they
> made
> > > the best grilled lamb.
> >
> > What spices? Any recall? :-)
>
> Fresh emon juice, garlic and pepper marinade - LOTS of garlic. Grill
> without basting on medium coals.

Sounds simple...

>
>
>
> >
> > Shooting it in the head works but is messy. :-P
> > They are SO primitive, they kick forever and bruise the meat!
>
> NOT a pretty visual!

No, it's not, which is why I prefer not to do it that way...... :-(

My preferred killing method for most poultry is a good stunning (or
killing) blow to the back of the head. It causes instantanious death,
but won't work for emus. I'm not sure why. Might be the location of
their brain.

<snipped>
>
> Sounds pretty gruesome. I like the slaughtering methods wherein the
> animals don't know what happened, TYVM!

That is also the way I prefer.
It's one reason I prefer to do my own killing for meat, even tho' I
sure do not enjoy it!
I care, so that way I can attempt to make sure the animal never
felt any pain.

>
>
> <snip>
>
> > Yeah, nanny goats are cute and personable!
> > Wait 'till you get to meet a breeding billy tho'! <lol>
> > "Nasty" critters is putting it mildly! Oh they are tame enough >but,
> > well, you'd have to meet one to understand!
> >
> > If you want to keep a nanny or two as pets and for milk, you will
> have
> > to have them bred from time to time to keep them in milk so just make
>
> > sure you stay in touch with someone with a male kept for breeding.
> ;-)
> >
> > And give the Nanny a bath when she gets back......... <G>
>
> Eeeew.....just eeew! ;p

<lol> Sounds like you are somewhat familiar with billy goats! ;-D

>
> -L.
>

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K.

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Katra > wrote:

How do you deal with the fins? Do you try and get the skin off? Tedious.

The body rings are a lot more tender with the skin off.

I can't seem to get the flour to stick. I coat the rings but it comes
off in the oil.



> In article <V_tOd.14527$uc.8393@trnddc05>,
> "Rick & Cyndi" > wrote:
>
> > "Katra"
> > <snip>
> > > Ok... squid prep! :-)
> > >
> > > First, cut off the head fairly close to the tube/body.
> > >
> > > Cut the tentacle ring away from the head and discard the head. Spread
> > > out the center of the tentacles and make sure you remove the beak, and
> > > any of the entrails you may have missed.
> > >
> > > Take the tube body and turn it inside out. Cut away the "guts" from the
> > > body wall. (It's pretty easy to tell) and look for the clear, hard
> > > "spine" in the membrane along the back. Be sure to remove it all the way
> > > from top to bottom.
> > >
> > > Turn it back rightside out. Loosen the grayish outer "skin" (membrane)
> > > from around the mouth of the tube body. Once you have it worked loose
> > > all the way around, the "skin" will usually pull off all in one piece.
> > >
> > > Cut and prepare the meat then as desired. I don't usually bother
> > > skinning the tentacles.
> > >
> > > Next time I do some, I'll take pictures and post the series. :-)
> > >
> > > Kat
> > =================
> >
> > YES!!! Please take pictures next time! How cool!!
> >
> > Cyndi
> >
> >
>
> Ok! :-) I promise!
> I have to work this weekend, but hope to be able to go to Austin early
> next week. I'll go to Fiesta and hope they have more... <lol> I'd rather
> get fresh than the frozen ones from the Oriental market. Some of that
> stuff has been frozen a LONG time!
>
> Digicams are handy things! I just bought myself one for Christmas
> finally.....

In article >,
(The Wolf) wrote:

> Katra > wrote:
>
> How do you deal with the fins? Do you try and get the skin off? Tedious.

I cut the fins off first, and skinned them by themselves. It was much
easier that way! I don't cut fins off of the "normal" sized squids.

>
> The body rings are a lot more tender with the skin off.

Oh yes!

>
> I can't seem to get the flour to stick. I coat the rings but it comes
> off in the oil.

Well, I did not bread mine.
They were mixed in with other meat and veggies and served as is with a
thickened butter, olive oil and seafood "juice" mix that they food
itself created.

I've not actually tried to do much breading...

But for catfish, I just rinse the fish so it's wet, then dunk it into
fine ground and spiced cornmeal and fry it in Olive Oil. The breadings
stays on fish just fine.

>
>
>
> > In article <V_tOd.14527$uc.8393@trnddc05>,
> > "Rick & Cyndi" > wrote:
> >
> > > "Katra"
> > > <snip>
> > > > Ok... squid prep! :-)
> > > >
> > > > First, cut off the head fairly close to the tube/body.
> > > >
> > > > Cut the tentacle ring away from the head and discard the head. Spread
> > > > out the center of the tentacles and make sure you remove the beak, and
> > > > any of the entrails you may have missed.
> > > >
> > > > Take the tube body and turn it inside out. Cut away the "guts" from the
> > > > body wall. (It's pretty easy to tell) and look for the clear, hard
> > > > "spine" in the membrane along the back. Be sure to remove it all the way
> > > > from top to bottom.
> > > >
> > > > Turn it back rightside out. Loosen the grayish outer "skin" (membrane)
> > > > from around the mouth of the tube body. Once you have it worked loose
> > > > all the way around, the "skin" will usually pull off all in one piece.
> > > >
> > > > Cut and prepare the meat then as desired. I don't usually bother
> > > > skinning the tentacles.
> > > >
> > > > Next time I do some, I'll take pictures and post the series. :-)
> > > >
> > > > Kat
> > > =================
> > >
> > > YES!!! Please take pictures next time! How cool!!
> > >
> > > Cyndi
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Ok! :-) I promise!
> > I have to work this weekend, but hope to be able to go to Austin early
> > next week. I'll go to Fiesta and hope they have more... <lol> I'd rather
> > get fresh than the frozen ones from the Oriental market. Some of that
> > stuff has been frozen a LONG time!
> >
> > Digicams are handy things! I just bought myself one for Christmas
> > finally.....

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