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![]() So I always make my beef soup with these generic "soup bones" from Safeways (the assumption here is that they are beef, they sure look like it). They were out, so I went to Albertson's and couldn't find "soup bones" and picked up these "beef marrow bones" instead. They *kinda* look alike am I on the right track here, or am I setting myself up for an unknown taste sensation that may be nasty? Thanks, STRATEGY |
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![]() Dog3 wrote: > wrote in > ups.com: > > > > > So I always make my beef soup with these generic "soup bones" from > > Safeways (the assumption here is that they are beef, they sure look > > like it). > > > > They were out, so I went to Albertson's and couldn't find "soup bones" > > and picked up these "beef marrow bones" instead. > > > > They *kinda* look alike > > > > am I on the right track here, or am I setting myself up for an unknown > > taste sensation that may be nasty? > > The biggest difference between the two (that I have been able to see) is > the soup bone has more meat on it. "Soup Bone" is simply a generic term for any bone regardless how much meat is present... even fowl bones are "Soup Bones", and fowl bones are hollow and contain no marrow. Marrow bones are the long bones of mammals, typically the leg bones.... usually sawn into 2" sections so the marrow can be more easily extracted. If you're not going to eat the marrow then there is no point in paying for marrow bones. Marrow bones are typically roasted, the marrow extracted and eaten, often spread on bread. Marrow bones are not typically used for stock, but can be if one deigns to extravagance. With some recipes, like braised shanks, the marrow is considered the choicest part... sending the eaten dish back with the marrow still intact tells the chef that culinarilly you're a clod. |
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![]() > wrote in message ups.com... > > So I always make my beef soup with these generic "soup bones" from > Safeways (the assumption here is that they are beef, they sure look > like it). > > They were out, so I went to Albertson's and couldn't find "soup bones" > and picked up these "beef marrow bones" instead. > > They *kinda* look alike > > am I on the right track here, or am I setting myself up for an unknown > taste sensation that may be nasty? > Actually you are setting yourself up for a fabulous flavor, that of beef marrow, an essential component of Sauce Bordelaise and a not-to-be-without flavor in beef stews and so forth. The marrow is the softish beige colored stuff in the middle of the bones, btw, and is eminently edible spread on bread and lightly salted after it has been poached a bit. You made a step in the right direction. pavane |
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Oh Boy !! The marrow is the best part!! When I was a kid, we used to
all fight over the " weasel " I wonder why we called it that .... Rosie |
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"rosie" > wrote: > Oh Boy !! The marrow is the best part!! When I was a kid, we used to > all fight over the " weasel " I wonder why we called it that .... > Rosie That's the "schpik" (shpeek). :-) Slovak word. -- -Barb <www.jamlady.eboard.com>; Sam pics added 2-7-05 "I got the motive, which is money; and the body, which is dead!" - Rod Steiger as Sheriff Gillespie, "In the Heat of the Night," 1967. |
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![]() Melba's Jammin' wrote: > > I always look for marrow bones with meat surrounding the bone for soup. > I like the cooked marrow smeared on a piece of bread. Long ago they > were cheap, too. Cheap, nuthin'... that's right, nuthin'... bones were free. In fact you didn't even need to ask, the butcher would automatically shtup a couple pounds of bone in the order... 'specially a young pretty woman. |
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Thanks for all the responses.
Well, I used the marrow bones just like I would the soup bones, boiled them for 4 hours for the stock, did not do anything special to extract the marrow, but I imagine some or all came out throught the boiling.. Short story...best damn soup I've made in years! I boiled the bones with a couple of carrots and a couple celery stalks and an onion, then took out the solids (I like vegetables but not when they're all soggy) then started my white beans, added a lb of ground browned beef, cut up 3 small roma tomatoes and put them in for the last hour, salt, pepper and some celery salt. I don't know how much of a difference the marrow bones made, but I could swear there was a new enhanced flavor never before tasted in my soup ![]() STRATEGY |
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"Dog3" > wrote in message
1... > wrote in > ups.com: > > Strategy, > > The biggest difference between the two (that I have been able to see) is > the soup bone has more meat on it. Both soup bones and beef marrow bones > make excellent additions to stock or broth. OTOH, the marrow bones are > safe > for dogs and a lot of people buy them as treats for their pets. > > Michael Michael, My MIL had me grill some marrow bones the last time we visited. FOR THE DOGS! I love my dogs, got three of them, but I don't grill/cook/marinade/stew anything for them. From my MIL's reaction, I now know what a conniption-fit(sp) looks like. I finally said, "Ok, I'll grill 'em." I buy my dogs treats but I ain't cooking for them. Period. Bret <Hopes his wife doesn't decided to start cooking for them> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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![]() Katra wrote: > In article . com>, > wrote: > > > Thanks for all the responses. > > > > Well, I used the marrow bones just like I would the soup bones, boiled > > them for 4 hours for the stock, did not do anything special to extract > > the marrow, but I imagine some or all came out throught the boiling.. > > > > Short story...best damn soup I've made in years! > > > > I boiled the bones with a couple of carrots and a couple celery stalks > > and an onion, then took out the solids (I like vegetables but not when > > they're all soggy) then started my white beans, added a lb of ground > > browned beef, cut up 3 small roma tomatoes and put them in for the last > > hour, salt, pepper and some celery salt. > > > > I don't know how much of a difference the marrow bones made, but I > > could swear there was a new enhanced flavor never before tasted in my > > soup ![]() > > > > > > > > STRATEGY > > > > Sounds yummy! :-) it sounds pretty simple and plain, but it is soooooooooo good and flavorful! I don't cook a lot, but this is one worth bragging about ![]() > > Did you blanch and peel the tomatoes first? I did not > I find tomato peels to be pretty much inedible in soups? I do recall, somewhere around my 2nd bowl, having to pause to pick something out of my teeth ![]() STRATEGY > > -- > K. > > Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... > > As we go through life thinking heavy thoughts, thought particles > tend to get caught between the ears causing truth decay- so be sure > to use mental floss twice a day. -- Swami Beyondanada > > >,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,< > > http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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Dog3 > wrote: > "Maverick" > wrote in > : > > > "Dog3" > wrote in message > > 1... > >> wrote in > >> ups.com: > >> > >> Strategy, > >> > >> The biggest difference between the two (that I have been able to see) > >> is the soup bone has more meat on it. Both soup bones and beef marrow > >> bones make excellent additions to stock or broth. OTOH, the marrow > >> bones are safe > >> for dogs and a lot of people buy them as treats for their pets. > >> > >> Michael > > > > Michael, My MIL had me grill some marrow bones the last time we > > visited. FOR THE DOGS! I love my dogs, got three of them, but I don't > > grill/cook/marinade/stew anything for them. From my MIL's reaction, I > > now know what a conniption-fit(sp) looks like. I finally said, "Ok, > > I'll grill 'em." > > > > I buy my dogs treats but I ain't cooking for them. Period. > > > > Bret > > <Hopes his wife doesn't decided to start cooking for them> > > Visiting my mother was always a pain, especially when we had 3 dogs. Mother > made them hamburgers, pancakes etc. The 2 Scotties were diabetic (2 insulin > shots daily). I kept telling her not to feed them but she did anyway. All > of my pets are on strict diets and get no table food. Well, the Mutt > (Missy) discovered how to beg from my mother and brought the bad habit home > with her. The Scotties died several years ago about 8 months apart. We now > have the begging Missy and the greedy cat, Hoot. > > Michael I buy pre-cooked/smoked marrow bones (knobby joint ends) for my dogs... They chew them down until they get all the smoked marrow out. ;-) -- K. Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... As we go through life thinking heavy thoughts, thought particles tend to get caught between the ears causing truth decay- so be sure to use mental floss twice a day. -- Swami Beyondanada >,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,< http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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Dog3 > wrote in
1: > Are the marrow bones really okay for dogs? I am sure Missy would > appreciate a late night snack other than rawhide chews from the > veterinarian. > > Michael > > If you boil them first...That stops splintering getting into their gums etc. -- No Bread Crumbs were hurt in the making of this Meal. Type 2 Diabetic 1AC 5.6mmol or 101mg/dl Continuing to be Manitoban |
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Hahabogus >, if that's their real name, wrote:
>Dog3 > wrote in 21: > >> Are the marrow bones really okay for dogs? I am sure Missy would >> appreciate a late night snack other than rawhide chews from the >> veterinarian. > >If you boil them first...That stops splintering getting into their gums >etc. We give the bones to our dogs straight out of the package. No injuries or deaths to date. Carol -- "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say, 'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_ |
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Dog3 > wrote: > Katra > wrote in > : > > > In article > , > > Dog3 > wrote: > > > >> "Maverick" > wrote in > >> : > >> > >> > "Dog3" > wrote in message > >> > 1... > >> >> wrote in > >> >> ups.com: > >> >> > >> >> Strategy, > >> >> > >> >> The biggest difference between the two (that I have been able to > >> >> see) is the soup bone has more meat on it. Both soup bones and > >> >> beef marrow bones make excellent additions to stock or broth. > >> >> OTOH, the marrow bones are safe > >> >> for dogs and a lot of people buy them as treats for their pets. > >> >> > >> >> Michael > >> > > >> > Michael, My MIL had me grill some marrow bones the last time we > >> > visited. FOR THE DOGS! I love my dogs, got three of them, but I > >> > don't grill/cook/marinade/stew anything for them. From my MIL's > >> > reaction, I now know what a conniption-fit(sp) looks like. I > >> > finally said, "Ok, I'll grill 'em." > >> > > >> > I buy my dogs treats but I ain't cooking for them. Period. > >> > > >> > Bret > >> > <Hopes his wife doesn't decided to start cooking for them> > >> > >> Visiting my mother was always a pain, especially when we had 3 dogs. > >> Mother made them hamburgers, pancakes etc. The 2 Scotties were > >> diabetic (2 insulin shots daily). I kept telling her not to feed them > >> but she did anyway. All of my pets are on strict diets and get no > >> table food. Well, the Mutt (Missy) discovered how to beg from my > >> mother and brought the bad habit home with her. The Scotties died > >> several years ago about 8 months apart. We now have the begging Missy > >> and the greedy cat, Hoot. > >> > >> Michael > > > > I buy pre-cooked/smoked marrow bones (knobby joint ends) for my > > dogs... They chew them down until they get all the smoked marrow out. > > ;-) > > > > Are the marrow bones really okay for dogs? I am sure Missy would appreciate > a late night snack other than rawhide chews from the veterinarian. > > Michael I actually rarely buy rawhide for my dogs. There can be a choking risk with it. Not common, but it does happen! The pre-smoked marrow joints I get for my dogs are sold for dogs at pet stores, feed stores, and even Wal-mart in the pet section! My border collie also loves squeekie toys, (in fact, I heard her molesting the new one I bought the other night a little bit ago, right outside my bedroom window! <lol>) as well as rubber Kong's stuffed with p-nut butter or cheese. I've also bought them dried piggy noses and ears, as well as the calf hooves. When I adopted Jewely (the border collie) from the shelter, I discovered the first couple of days that she had an unacceptable chewing habit! She was about 9 months old. I really prefer adopting older dogs as I really don't have time for puppies. I called the shelter (aka dog pound) that I had adopted her from and asked for advice. They recommended Kong's, and jewels loved both cheese and p-nut butter, (turns out the shelties did too!) and the kong turned her on to dog toys so that helped solve the innapropriate chewing problem. I'm really sold on that toy! They appear to be expensive at first, but they really are not as they are nearly indestructable so last forever! Kat -- K. Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... As we go through life thinking heavy thoughts, thought particles tend to get caught between the ears causing truth decay- so be sure to use mental floss twice a day. -- Swami Beyondanada >,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,< http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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Damsel in dis Dress > wrote in
: > Hahabogus >, if that's their real name, wrote: > > >Dog3 > wrote in > 21: > > > >> Are the marrow bones really okay for dogs? I am sure Missy would > >> appreciate a late night snack other than rawhide chews from the > >> veterinarian. > > > >If you boil them first...That stops splintering getting into their > >gums etc. > > We give the bones to our dogs straight out of the package. No > injuries or deaths to date. > > Carol Not that long ago we (the ex and me) bought a 1/2 a cow. It came wrapped...fat, bones and meat. I gave the neighbour several knuckle bones for their dogs. Those german shepherds loved the bones, but the uncooked bones broke into small splinters getting caught in their teeth and gums. We didn't know at that time that we shoulda pre-cooked the bones. This softens the bones thus elliminating such a hazard. -- No Bread Crumbs were hurt in the making of this Meal. Type 2 Diabetic 1AC 5.6mmol or 101mg/dl Continuing to be Manitoban |
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Hahabogus >, if that's their real name, wrote:
>Not that long ago we (the ex and me) bought a 1/2 a cow. It came >wrapped...fat, bones and meat. I gave the neighbour several knuckle bones >for their dogs. Those german shepherds loved the bones, but the uncooked >bones broke into small splinters getting caught in their teeth and gums. >We didn't know at that time that we shoulda pre-cooked the bones. This >softens the bones thus elliminating such a hazard. Ahhhhhhh! Our mutts weigh 13 and 26 pounds, respectively. They don't have nearly the jaw strength of a shepherd. However, I'll start roasting them first. They'll probably taste better, too. I used to eat the marrow out of bones when I was a kid. Now the mere thought makes me queasy. Carol, who only got up at this ungodly hour because the 26 pounder sounded like he was gonna barf, and I wanted him to do it outside. Now that he's fine, I'm going back to bed. -- "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say, 'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_ |
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![]() "Dog3" > wrote in message ... > Damsel in dis Dress > wrote in > : > >> Hahabogus >, if that's their real name, wrote: >> >>>Not that long ago we (the ex and me) bought a 1/2 a cow. It came >>>wrapped...fat, bones and meat. I gave the neighbour several knuckle >>>bones for their dogs. Those german shepherds loved the bones, but the >>>uncooked bones broke into small splinters getting caught in their >>>teeth and gums. We didn't know at that time that we shoulda pre-cooked >>>the bones. This softens the bones thus elliminating such a hazard. >> >> Ahhhhhhh! Our mutts weigh 13 and 26 pounds, respectively. They don't >> have nearly the jaw strength of a shepherd. However, I'll start >> roasting them first. They'll probably taste better, too. >> >> I used to eat the marrow out of bones when I was a kid. Now the mere >> thought makes me queasy. >> >> Carol, who only got up at this ungodly hour because the 26 pounder >> sounded like he was gonna barf, and I wanted him to do it outside. >> Now that he's fine, I'm going back to bed. > > I'm up because both of them are screaming for food at 6am. I feed them, > play online and then hit the sack again. Don't take all the blankets Dams. > > Michael <- on the way to bed > ======================= Yep. I'll see ya and raise you a 100.8 ° temperature... ugghhh. Maxi wanted to freshen up at 3:45 this morning. No problem. I was awake anyway... couldn't decide if I was chilled or sweating. Poor baby dog - *I* was probably why she was awake.. all of my tossing and turning and problems keeping my head clear enough to breathe. She's a good dog - she seems to be taking it all in stride. Thyndi |
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Dog3 > wrote: > Katra > wrote in > : > > > In article > , > > Dog3 > wrote: > > > >> Katra > wrote in > >> : > >> > >> > In article > , > >> > Dog3 > wrote: > >> > > >> >> "Maverick" > wrote in > >> >> : > >> >> > >> >> > "Dog3" > wrote in message > >> >> > 1... > >> >> >> wrote in > >> >> >> ups.com: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Strategy, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> The biggest difference between the two (that I have been able > >> >> >> to see) is the soup bone has more meat on it. Both soup bones > >> >> >> and beef marrow bones make excellent additions to stock or > >> >> >> broth. OTOH, the marrow bones are safe > >> >> >> for dogs and a lot of people buy them as treats for their pets. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Michael > >> >> > > >> >> > Michael, My MIL had me grill some marrow bones the last time we > >> >> > visited. FOR THE DOGS! I love my dogs, got three of them, but I > >> >> > don't grill/cook/marinade/stew anything for them. From my MIL's > >> >> > reaction, I now know what a conniption-fit(sp) looks like. I > >> >> > finally said, "Ok, I'll grill 'em." > >> >> > > >> >> > I buy my dogs treats but I ain't cooking for them. Period. > >> >> > > >> >> > Bret > >> >> > <Hopes his wife doesn't decided to start cooking for them> > >> >> > >> >> Visiting my mother was always a pain, especially when we had 3 > >> >> dogs. Mother made them hamburgers, pancakes etc. The 2 Scotties > >> >> were diabetic (2 insulin shots daily). I kept telling her not to > >> >> feed them but she did anyway. All of my pets are on strict diets > >> >> and get no table food. Well, the Mutt (Missy) discovered how to > >> >> beg from my mother and brought the bad habit home with her. The > >> >> Scotties died several years ago about 8 months apart. We now have > >> >> the begging Missy and the greedy cat, Hoot. > >> >> > >> >> Michael > >> > > >> > I buy pre-cooked/smoked marrow bones (knobby joint ends) for my > >> > dogs... They chew them down until they get all the smoked marrow > >> > out. ;-) > >> > > >> > >> Are the marrow bones really okay for dogs? I am sure Missy would > >> appreciate a late night snack other than rawhide chews from the > >> veterinarian. > >> > >> Michael > > > > I actually rarely buy rawhide for my dogs. > > There can be a choking risk with it. Not common, but it does happen! > > > > The pre-smoked marrow joints I get for my dogs are sold for dogs at > > pet stores, feed stores, and even Wal-mart in the pet section! > > > > My border collie also loves squeekie toys, (in fact, I heard her > > molesting the new one I bought the other night a little bit ago, right > > outside my bedroom window! <lol>) as well as rubber Kong's stuffed > > with p-nut butter or cheese. > > > > I've also bought them dried piggy noses and ears, as well as the calf > > hooves. > > > > When I adopted Jewely (the border collie) from the shelter, I > > discovered the first couple of days that she had an unacceptable > > chewing habit! She was about 9 months old. I really prefer adopting > > older dogs as I really don't have time for puppies. > > > > I called the shelter (aka dog pound) that I had adopted her from and > > asked for advice. They recommended Kong's, and jewels loved both > > cheese and p-nut butter, (turns out the shelties did too!) and the > > kong turned her on to dog toys so that helped solve the innapropriate > > chewing problem. I'm really sold on that toy! They appear to be > > expensive at first, but they really are not as they are nearly > > indestructable so last forever! > > > > Kat > > > > Missy shoplifts at Petsmart. They put the expensive squeak toys in the > bottom racks. Last time she lifted a squirrel. I almost had a heart attack > at the check out. It was $19.99. Missy always grabs the expensive toys, > hangs head down and I seldom see it until we get to the check out. She is a > total thief. Hoot plays with anything. I've given her expensive toys that > she looks at with disdain. Her fave toy is a rolled up ball of aluminum > foil. > > Missy is always under supervision when she gets her rawhides. I may try the > marrow bones. Hoot gets Pounce as a snack. *sigh* they are both treated > better than humans. > > Michael That is what pets are for!!! <lol> Missy sounds like a real fun pup...... -- K. Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... As we go through life thinking heavy thoughts, thought particles tend to get caught between the ears causing truth decay- so be sure to use mental floss twice a day. -- Swami Beyondanada >,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,< http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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Damsel in dis Dress > wrote: > Dog3 >, if that's their real name, wrote: > > >Hoot plays with anything. I've given her expensive toys that > >she looks at with disdain. Her fave toy is a rolled up ball of aluminum > >foil. > > Until a couple of years ago, we had a black lab named Panther. Her > favorite toy was rocks. We'd let her out to do her thing, and she'd come > back with a rock in her mouth. We had a big pile of them on the deck, and > they were all over the house, as well. She chewed on them like they were > bones. Goofy dog! > > Carol Misty, my old Australian Shepard, also chewed on rocks. It cracked her back teeth and she had to have teeth pulled later on in life. :-P She passed on a couple of years ago at age 15. Kat -- K. Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... As we go through life thinking heavy thoughts, thought particles tend to get caught between the ears causing truth decay- so be sure to use mental floss twice a day. -- Swami Beyondanada >,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,< http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
> Until a couple of years ago, we had a black lab named Panther. Her > favorite toy was rocks. We'd let her out to do her thing, and she'd come > back with a rock in her mouth. We had a big pile of them on the deck, and > they were all over the house, as well. She chewed on them like they were > bones. Goofy dog! I had black Lab that loved the water. While was never known to chew on rocks he liked to retrieve them. I have had a few Labs over the years. They all loved the water but Bart was the only one who would swim underwater to retrieve rocks. It beats me how I could throw a rock in to the water and he would come back with the same one I threw. |
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Dave Smith > wrote: > Damsel in dis Dress wrote: > > > Until a couple of years ago, we had a black lab named Panther. Her > > favorite toy was rocks. We'd let her out to do her thing, and she'd come > > back with a rock in her mouth. We had a big pile of them on the deck, and > > they were all over the house, as well. She chewed on them like they were > > bones. Goofy dog! > > I had black Lab that loved the water. While was never known to chew on rocks > he liked to retrieve them. I have had a few Labs over the years. They all > loved the water but Bart was the only one who would swim underwater to > retrieve rocks. It beats me how I could throw a rock in to the water and he > would come back with the same one I threw. > I've seen black labs do that. ;-) It's always amazed me too!!! -- K. Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... As we go through life thinking heavy thoughts, thought particles tend to get caught between the ears causing truth decay- so be sure to use mental floss twice a day. -- Swami Beyondanada >,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,< http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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Katra >, if that's their real name, wrote:
>In article >, > Damsel in dis Dress > wrote: > >> Until a couple of years ago, we had a black lab named Panther. Her >> favorite toy was rocks. We'd let her out to do her thing, and she'd come >> back with a rock in her mouth. We had a big pile of them on the deck, and >> they were all over the house, as well. She chewed on them like they were >> bones. Goofy dog! >> >> Carol > >Misty, my old Australian Shepard, also chewed on rocks. Strange, isn't it? I've even heard of dogs jumping into lakes to retrieve rocks that have been tossed in there. >It cracked her back teeth and she had to have teeth pulled later on in >life. :-P Oh my! I'm glad that never happened with Panther. >She passed on a couple of years ago at age 15. Neither of us can remember why Panther went to a better place at the ripe old age of 8. Sometimes, you block painful things. Crash *thinks* it was her kidneys. Gives a whole new meaning to kidney stones. (gallows humor) <looking upward> Love ya, Panther! Carol, aka Mommy -- "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say, 'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_ |
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