Kramer and his 'Clair Vickers' sock puppet.

Another one from the archives.

This one is another example of just how devious Kramer is in his continuing
abuse of usenet whilst he spams the group trying to promote his business. In
this one, he sets up his 'Clair Vickers' sock puppet to make a post to sct,
posing as a tourist and asks a few questions about an upcoming trip to
Chiang Mai. The very next day, guess who jumps in? Yep, 'Kombat' Kramer!!!

Kombat runs a tour business in Chiang Mai and answers his own post with a
detailed list of... well read for yourself! He was obviously and deviously
trying to promote himself here by using SPAM to do so. I like the tag line
"If you'd like more specific details, just send me an e-mail."

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: )
Date: 20 Oct 2003 17:24:52 -0700
Local: Mon, Oct 20 2003 5:24 pm
Subject: Chiang Mai in December?

Hello,

Are there special activities happening in Chiang Mai in December that
one just shouldn't miss?

Are there cultural or scenic spots that are "must see" sort of places
there?

Any recommended hotels better for single women?

Thank you
Clair


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: Steve Kramer >
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:58:12 +0700
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2003 6:58 am
Subject: Chiang Mai in December?


> Are there cultural or scenic spots that are "must see" sort of places
> there?

If I were visiting Chiang Mai in December (the weather is wonderfully
cool by then) the places I would want to see around town would be the
Wat on Doi Suthep, Wat Chedi Luang, and Wat Suan Doak for the temples,
Warrorot Market for a glimpse of a typical (but huge) morning and day
market, a stroll along the moat near Thapae Gate then into the Old City
for just a quick walk around. In the evening try a Kantoke dinner show
with good food and traditional Thai dancers performing for you. There
are several different ones to chose from. And of course, there is Chiang
Mai's famous Night Bazaar. A stroll along looking at the vendors stalls
may turn up a bargain or two.

Going just about 15 minutes north of town you can find great orchid
nurseries and butterfly farms, three different elephant camps (one is
VERY touristy and two quite natural) a water buffalo training farm, The
Queen's Botanical gardens, snake and monkey shows if you like that sort
of thing, and some hill tribe villages if you prefer more cultural
endeavors.

10 minutes east of town you can find the San Kamphang handicraft area
with many different items being fashioned, from paper to silver, silk to
umbrellas.

Going south for just an hour will get you to Doi Inthanon National Park
with several beautiful waterfalls, (Be sure to visit the Mae Ya
waterfall!) Karen and Hmong hill tribe villages, temples, and the King
and Queen Stupas on the summit.

If you are here on a Tuesday, there is a wonderful farmers market that
takes place 63k north in the village of Chang Dao. Several different
hill tribes use this market as their main means of selling their
produce, stocking up on items that they can't make themselves, and
gathering to chat. The mix of colorful costumes is a riot of color for a
photographer! But remember, this market is ONLY held on Tuesday
mornings!

> Any recommended hotels better for single women?

I have never heard of women having any problems at any of the hotels in
Chiang Mai. Not that it has never happened. The world isn't crime free.
But Chiang Mai is NOT a hotbed of criminal activity aimed at women.
Aimed at anyone, for that matter. It's a rather nice place to live!

If you'd like more specific details, just send me an e-mail.

Steve Kramer
Chiang Mai, Thailand
http://www.photoenvisions.com

--
"The voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new horizons,
but in seeing with new eyes." - Marcel Proust

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**So, there we have it. Steve 'Kombat' Kramer - Usenet troll, spammer and
ASSHOLE. *smirk*




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Takin Gthe**** wrote:
> Kramer and his 'Clair Vickers' sock puppet.
>
> Another one from the archives.
>
> This one is another example of just how devious Kramer is in his
continuing
> abuse of usenet whilst he spams the group trying to promote his
business. In
> this one, he sets up his 'Clair Vickers' sock puppet to make a post
to sct,
> posing as a tourist and asks a few questions about an upcoming trip
to
> Chiang Mai. The very next day, guess who jumps in? Yep, 'Kombat'
Kramer!!!
>
> Kombat runs a tour business in Chiang Mai and answers his own post
with a
> detailed list of... well read for yourself! He was obviously and
deviously
> trying to promote himself here by using SPAM to do so. I like the tag
line
> "If you'd like more specific details, just send me an e-mail."
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
> Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
> From: )
> Date: 20 Oct 2003 17:24:52 -0700
> Local: Mon, Oct 20 2003 5:24 pm
> Subject: Chiang Mai in December?
>
> Hello,
>
> Are there special activities happening in Chiang Mai in December that
> one just shouldn't miss?
>
> Are there cultural or scenic spots that are "must see" sort of places
> there?
>
> Any recommended hotels better for single women?
>
> Thank you
> Clair
>
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
> Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
> From: Steve Kramer >
> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:58:12 +0700
> Local: Tues, Oct 21 2003 6:58 am
> Subject: Chiang Mai in December?
>
>
> > Are there cultural or scenic spots that are "must see" sort of
places
> > there?
>
> If I were visiting Chiang Mai in December (the weather is wonderfully
> cool by then) the places I would want to see around town would be the
> Wat on Doi Suthep, Wat Chedi Luang, and Wat Suan Doak for the
temples,
> Warrorot Market for a glimpse of a typical (but huge) morning and day
> market, a stroll along the moat near Thapae Gate then into the Old
City
> for just a quick walk around. In the evening try a Kantoke dinner
show
> with good food and traditional Thai dancers performing for you. There
> are several different ones to chose from. And of course, there is
Chiang
> Mai's famous Night Bazaar. A stroll along looking at the vendors
stalls
> may turn up a bargain or two.
>
> Going just about 15 minutes north of town you can find great orchid
> nurseries and butterfly farms, three different elephant camps (one is
> VERY touristy and two quite natural) a water buffalo training farm,
The
> Queen's Botanical gardens, snake and monkey shows if you like that
sort
> of thing, and some hill tribe villages if you prefer more cultural
> endeavors.
>
> 10 minutes east of town you can find the San Kamphang handicraft area
> with many different items being fashioned, from paper to silver, silk
to
> umbrellas.
>
> Going south for just an hour will get you to Doi Inthanon National
Park
> with several beautiful waterfalls, (Be sure to visit the Mae Ya
> waterfall!) Karen and Hmong hill tribe villages, temples, and the
King
> and Queen Stupas on the summit.
>
> If you are here on a Tuesday, there is a wonderful farmers market
that
> takes place 63k north in the village of Chang Dao. Several different
> hill tribes use this market as their main means of selling their
> produce, stocking up on items that they can't make themselves, and
> gathering to chat. The mix of colorful costumes is a riot of color
for a
> photographer! But remember, this market is ONLY held on Tuesday
> mornings!
>
> > Any recommended hotels better for single women?
>
> I have never heard of women having any problems at any of the hotels
in
> Chiang Mai. Not that it has never happened. The world isn't crime
free.
> But Chiang Mai is NOT a hotbed of criminal activity aimed at women.
> Aimed at anyone, for that matter. It's a rather nice place to live!
>
> If you'd like more specific details, just send me an e-mail.
>
> Steve Kramer
> Chiang Mai, Thailand
> http://www.photoenvisions.com
>
> --
> "The voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new horizons,
> but in seeing with new eyes." - Marcel Proust
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
> **So, there we have it. Steve 'Kombat' Kramer - Usenet troll, spammer
and
> ASSHOLE. *smirk*
>
>
>
>
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Takin Gthe**** wrote:
> Kramer and his 'Clair Vickers' sock puppet.
>
> Another one from the archives.
>
> This one is another example of just how devious Kramer is in his
continuing
> abuse of usenet whilst he spams the group trying to promote his
business. In
> this one, he sets up his 'Clair Vickers' sock puppet to make a post
to sct,
> posing as a tourist and asks a few questions about an upcoming trip
to
> Chiang Mai. The very next day, guess who jumps in? Yep, 'Kombat'
Kramer!!!
>
> Kombat runs a tour business in Chiang Mai and answers his own post
with a
> detailed list of... well read for yourself! He was obviously and
deviously
> trying to promote himself here by using SPAM to do so. I like the tag
line
> "If you'd like more specific details, just send me an e-mail."
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
I like Steve Kramer's posts. They are veery interesting and full of
good information. (unlike "gthe****" , who is only abusive and adds
nothing.)
Nancree
> Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
> From: )
> Date: 20 Oct 2003 17:24:52 -0700
> Local: Mon, Oct 20 2003 5:24 pm
> Subject: Chiang Mai in December?
>
> Hello,
>
> Are there special activities happening in Chiang Mai in December that
> one just shouldn't miss?
>
> Are there cultural or scenic spots that are "must see" sort of places
> there?
>
> Any recommended hotels better for single women?
>
> Thank you
> Clair
>
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
> Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
> From: Steve Kramer >
> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:58:12 +0700
> Local: Tues, Oct 21 2003 6:58 am
> Subject: Chiang Mai in December?
>
>
> > Are there cultural or scenic spots that are "must see" sort of
places
> > there?
>
> If I were visiting Chiang Mai in December (the weather is wonderfully
> cool by then) the places I would want to see around town would be the
> Wat on Doi Suthep, Wat Chedi Luang, and Wat Suan Doak for the
temples,
> Warrorot Market for a glimpse of a typical (but huge) morning and day
> market, a stroll along the moat near Thapae Gate then into the Old
City
> for just a quick walk around. In the evening try a Kantoke dinner
show
> with good food and traditional Thai dancers performing for you. There
> are several different ones to chose from. And of course, there is
Chiang
> Mai's famous Night Bazaar. A stroll along looking at the vendors
stalls
> may turn up a bargain or two.
>
> Going just about 15 minutes north of town you can find great orchid
> nurseries and butterfly farms, three different elephant camps (one is
> VERY touristy and two quite natural) a water buffalo training farm,
The
> Queen's Botanical gardens, snake and monkey shows if you like that
sort
> of thing, and some hill tribe villages if you prefer more cultural
> endeavors.
>
> 10 minutes east of town you can find the San Kamphang handicraft area
> with many different items being fashioned, from paper to silver, silk
to
> umbrellas.
>
> Going south for just an hour will get you to Doi Inthanon National
Park
> with several beautiful waterfalls, (Be sure to visit the Mae Ya
> waterfall!) Karen and Hmong hill tribe villages, temples, and the
King
> and Queen Stupas on the summit.
>
> If you are here on a Tuesday, there is a wonderful farmers market
that
> takes place 63k north in the village of Chang Dao. Several different
> hill tribes use this market as their main means of selling their
> produce, stocking up on items that they can't make themselves, and
> gathering to chat. The mix of colorful costumes is a riot of color
for a
> photographer! But remember, this market is ONLY held on Tuesday
> mornings!
>
> > Any recommended hotels better for single women?
>
> I have never heard of women having any problems at any of the hotels
in
> Chiang Mai. Not that it has never happened. The world isn't crime
free.
> But Chiang Mai is NOT a hotbed of criminal activity aimed at women.
> Aimed at anyone, for that matter. It's a rather nice place to live!
>
> If you'd like more specific details, just send me an e-mail.
>
> Steve Kramer
> Chiang Mai, Thailand
> http://www.photoenvisions.com
>
> --
> "The voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new horizons,
> but in seeing with new eyes." - Marcel Proust
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
> **So, there we have it. Steve 'Kombat' Kramer - Usenet troll, spammer
and
> ASSHOLE. *smirk*
>
>
>
>
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On 14 Feb 2005 19:57:44 -0800, "nancree" >
wrote:

> I like Steve Kramer's posts. They are veery interesting and full of
> good information. (unlike "gthe****" , who is only abusive and adds
> nothing.)
> Nancree

I rarely see Steve Kramer's posts (still love ya Steve!) on
rfc anymore.... but his detractors flood us with their
bilious spam. I don't know or care what burr they have
under their saddles. However I DO think they are stupid,
childish and petty.

sf

sf wrote:
>
> On 14 Feb 2005 19:57:44 -0800, "nancree" >
> wrote:
>
> > I like Steve Kramer's posts. They are veery interesting and full of
> > good information. (unlike "gthe****" , who is only abusive and adds
> > nothing.)
> > Nancree
>
> I rarely see Steve Kramer's posts (still love ya Steve!) on
> rfc anymore.... but his detractors flood us with their
> bilious spam. I don't know or care what burr they have
> under their saddles. However I DO think they are stupid,
> childish and petty.

Thanks, guys. I'm still here, but if I post ANYTHING on any subject it
sets these guys into a feeding frenzy, so it's better for all if I just
wait them out. Like all trolls they will be gone eventually. )

Steve
"PhotoEnvisions" Freelance Photography
Chiang Mai, Thailand
http://www.photoenvisions.com



Six years, five months, three weeks, four days, 11 hours, 50 minutes and
41 seconds. 71114 cigarettes not smoked, saving $19,556.57. Time used
for a better purpose: 35 weeks, 1 day, 22 hours, 10 minutes.


--
"The voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new horizons, but in seeing
with new eyes." - Marcel Proust

Steve Kramer wrote:
>
> sf wrote:
>
>>On 14 Feb 2005 19:57:44 -0800, "nancree" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I like Steve Kramer's posts. They are veery interesting and full of
>>> good information. (unlike "gthe****" , who is only abusive and adds
>>> nothing.)
>>> Nancree
>>
>>I rarely see Steve Kramer's posts (still love ya Steve!) on
>>rfc anymore.... but his detractors flood us with their
>>bilious spam. I don't know or care what burr they have
>>under their saddles. However I DO think they are stupid,
>>childish and petty.
>
>
> Thanks, guys. I'm still here, but if I post ANYTHING on any subject it
> sets these guys into a feeding frenzy, so it's better for all if I just
> wait them out. Like all trolls they will be gone eventually. )
>
> Steve
> "PhotoEnvisions" Freelance Photography
> Chiang Mai, Thailand
> http://www.photoenvisions.com
>
>
>
> Six years, five months, three weeks, four days, 11 hours, 50 minutes and
> 41 seconds. 71114 cigarettes not smoked, saving $19,556.57. Time used
> for a better purpose: 35 weeks, 1 day, 22 hours, 10 minutes.
>
>

Shame that they feel the need to act so infantile Steve. Good to see
that you're still kickin'

--
Steve

Every job is a self-portrait of the person who did it.
Autograph your work with excellence.

"Steve Kramer" > wrote in message
...

> Thanks, guys. I'm still here, but if I post ANYTHING on any subject it
> sets these guys into a feeding frenzy, so it's better for all if I just
> wait them out. Like all trolls they will be gone eventually. )

Too bad we're punished because of some assholes. Miss you, Steve.

nancy

Doesn't it start mostly with the scuba groups? Must be a bunch of guys
there
who surfaced too quickly.

Greg Zywicki

"Steve Kombat Kramer" > wrote in message
>
>
> sf wrote:
>>
>> On 14 Feb 2005 19:57:44 -0800, "nancree" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I like Steve Kramer's posts. They are veery interesting and full of
>> > good information. (unlike "gthe****" , who is only abusive and adds
>> > nothing.)
>> > Nancree
>>
>> I rarely see Steve Kramer's posts (still love ya Steve!) on
>> rfc anymore.... but his detractors flood us with their
>> bilious spam. I don't know or care what burr they have
>> under their saddles. However I DO think they are stupid,
>> childish and petty.
>
> Thanks, guys. I'm still here, but if I post ANYTHING on any subject it
> sets these guys into a feeding frenzy, so it's better for all if I just
> wait them out. Like all trolls they will be gone eventually. )


**You're the troll here Steve.

You're a troll and a spammer who's been caught out on every group that
you've ever abused. Even 'John-Boy' Sharman (the sct list policeman) is
after you now....... ;-)




>
> Steve 'Kombat' Kramer
> Chiang Mai, Thailand
>
>
>
> --
> "I CAN be a good friend. I am NOT a good enemy.... especially when
> I'm wielding my tripod." - Steve 'Kombat' Kramer




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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:07:26 -0000, "Takin Gthe****"
> wrote:

> **You're the troll here Steve.
>
> You're a troll and a spammer who's been caught out on every group that
> you've ever abused. Even 'John-Boy' Sharman (the sct list policeman) is
> after you now....... ;-)

You're stupid, childish and petty - get over yourself or get
out.

sf

"sf" > wrote in message
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:07:26 -0000, "Takin Gthe****"
> > wrote:
>
>> **You're the troll here Steve.
>>
>> You're a troll and a spammer who's been caught out on every group that
>> you've ever abused. Even 'John-Boy' Sharman (the sct list policeman) is
>> after you now....... ;-)
>
> You're stupid, childish and petty - get over yourself or get
> out.



**You've got your orders Steve.... off you go..... ;-)




>
> sf
>




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