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We don't often get exotic food stuffs in our two supermarkets in Nome (AK).
So, yesterday, when turkey wings showed up in the meat case, I bought them all. ![]() Usually, not this good! Usually, I brown the wings and saute the trinity in the remaining fat. I make a roux and bring it to the color I need. (Darker meat (pork, beef) , lighter roux, light meat (chicken, turkey, seafood), darker roux). Don't ask. It's just what we do in my part of south Louisiana. However, last night I sauteed the wings until brown and removed them from the skillet. Then I added flour to the remaining oil and turkey fat and tried to cook the roux to the color I wanted, BUT..., the bottom of the pan began to brown/blacken too quickly. Now (tonight to finish), the gravy tastes a little pasty and isn't brown enough. The pasty has been fixed. It's the pale color I need help with. Here's my question: I have a 20 year old bottle of Kitchen Bouquet which followed me uninvited from Thibodaux, LA, but I'd rather not use it. (I know. There's nothing in it to go bad.) What else can I use to darken a too pale fricasee? Robert |
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Robert Lee wrote:
> We don't often get exotic food stuffs in our two supermarkets in > Nome (AK). So, yesterday, when turkey wings showed up in the meat > case, I bought them all. ![]() There you are with all those caribou and you call turkey wings exotic?! I remember a great June night out at Council--11:00 p.m., standing in the wild river catching 20" grayling, moose and bear tracks on the river bank, 68=B0 and the sun still high in the sky.... > However, last night I sauteed the wings until brown and removed them > from the skillet. Then I added flour to the remaining oil and turkey > fat and tried to cook the roux to the color I wanted, BUT..., the > bottom of the pan began to brown/blacken too quickly. Now (tonight > to finish), the gravy tastes a little pasty and isn't brown enough. > The pasty has been fixed. It's the pale color I need help with. > > Here's my question: [snip] What else can I use to darken a > too pale fricasee? > Sounds good. Worcestershire sauce and soy sauce are two things that come to mind to darken the dish, but they are strongly flavored. You'll have to judge whether you can get the color you want without changing the taste too much. For next time, I'd guess that you need lower heat and longer time with the roux to develop the color without blackening it. |
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![]() Robert Lee wrote: > What else can I use to darken a too pale fricasee? > > Robert Why would you want brown gravy with poultry, blech. You can dry toast a few spoonfuls of flour in a heavy pan over med-lo heat while stirring for about 20 minutes, then add to your dish a bit at a time until the desired color is reached- thin with stock/beer if desired. Or add instant color the easy way, may even improve flavor: paprika/tumeric- saffron if you feel flush. Hey, a bright hue is nicer with poultry than pale pablum grey. |
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"Robert Lee" > wrote in
: > Here's my question: I have a 20 year old bottle of Kitchen Bouquet > which followed me uninvited from Thibodaux, LA, but I'd rather not > use it. (I know. There's nothing in it to go bad.) What else can > I use to darken a too pale fricasee? > > Robert > You could bake some flour to a rich brown on a cookie sheet (read that somewhere) but the darker the flour browns the less it is able to thicken. Which you probably knew already. There is a product...Gravy Browning...it is a burnt caramel substance...has a nuetral flavour. I like Cross and Blackwells' version (brand name was improperly spelled). I buy a bottle about every 5 yrs...a little goes a long way. -- No Bread Crumbs were hurt in the making of this Meal. Type 2 Diabetic 1AC 5.6mmol or 101mg/dl Continuing to be Manitoban |
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In article >, "Robert Lee"
> wrote: > Here's my question: I have a 20 year old bottle of Kitchen Bouquet which > followed me uninvited from Thibodaux, LA, but I'd rather not use it. (I > know. There's nothing in it to go bad.) What else can I use to darken a > too pale fricasee? > > Robert Instant coffee. Cocoa powder. I'd use the Kitchen Bouquet--that's what it's for. -- -Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Sweet Potato Follies added 2/24/05. "I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and say,'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner, performance at New York, New York, January 10, 2005. |
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Robert Lee wrote:
> We don't often get exotic food stuffs in our two supermarkets in Nome (AK). > So, yesterday, when turkey wings showed up in the meat case, I bought them > all. ![]() > Usually, not this good! > > Usually, I brown the wings and saute the trinity in the remaining fat. I > make a roux and bring it to the color I need. (Darker meat (pork, beef) , > lighter roux, light meat (chicken, turkey, seafood), darker roux). Don't > ask. It's just what we do in my part of south Louisiana. > > However, last night I sauteed the wings until brown and removed them from > the skillet. Then I added flour to the remaining oil and turkey fat and > tried to cook the roux to the color I wanted, BUT..., the bottom of the pan > began to brown/blacken too quickly. Now (tonight to finish), the gravy > tastes a little pasty and isn't brown enough. The pasty has been fixed. > It's the pale color I need help with. > > Here's my question: I have a 20 year old bottle of Kitchen Bouquet which > followed me uninvited from Thibodaux, LA, but I'd rather not use it. (I > know. There's nothing in it to go bad.) What else can I use to darken a > too pale fricasee? > > Robert Once or twice a year, I roast a couple of cups of flour in the oven until it looks like light cocoa. It takes a long time, and you have to keep stirring it to get it browned evenly. Then I keep it in a jar in my pantry and use it whenever I make gumbo instead of making a dark roux. It would work perfectly for what you're doing. Bob |
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![]() "Robert Lee" > wrote in message ... > We don't often get exotic food stuffs in our two supermarkets in Nome > (AK). So, yesterday, when turkey wings showed up in the meat case, I > bought them all. ![]() > surprise! Usually, not this good! > > Usually, I brown the wings and saute the trinity in the remaining fat. I > make a roux and bring it to the color I need. (Darker meat (pork, beef) , > lighter roux, light meat (chicken, turkey, seafood), darker roux). Don't > ask. It's just what we do in my part of south Louisiana. > > However, last night I sauteed the wings until brown and removed them from > the skillet. Then I added flour to the remaining oil and turkey fat and > tried to cook the roux to the color I wanted, BUT..., the bottom of the > pan began to brown/blacken too quickly. Now (tonight to finish), the > gravy tastes a little pasty and isn't brown enough. The pasty has been > fixed. It's the pale color I need help with. > > Here's my question: I have a 20 year old bottle of Kitchen Bouquet which > followed me uninvited from Thibodaux, LA, but I'd rather not use it. (I > know. There's nothing in it to go bad.) What else can I use to darken a > too pale fricasee? > > Robert Got a Mexican section in the store? If so get a jar of Mole and throw some in. Dimitri Got a mexican section> |
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![]() "aem" > wrote in message oups.com... Robert Lee wrote: > We don't often get exotic food stuffs in our two supermarkets in > Nome (AK). So, yesterday, when turkey wings showed up in the meat > case, I bought them all. ![]() There you are with all those caribou and you call turkey wings exotic?! I've eaten reindeer/caribou, but it's not on my list of good meat. Moose egg rolls, however, were pretty good. I remember a great June night out at Council--11:00 p.m., standing in the wild river catching 20" grayling, moose and bear tracks on the river bank, 68° and the sun still high in the sky.... Perhaps "exotic" was the wrong word. ![]() case are pork chops, roasts, ground beef...you get the drift. We *do* get some fine pork ribs from Canada. A rack of lamb or a flank steak is a rarity. (I've never seen a brisket in Nome save the ones we bring in from Anchorage at US$5 per pound). Grocery stores here cater to the *needs* of bush Alaskans rather than the *wants* of us non-Alaskans. (Although there seems to be an inordinate amount of fast/processed food items on the supermarket shelves.) Cooking in Nome is a *real* challenge. ![]() > Here's my question: [snip] What else can I use to darken a too pale > fricasee? For next time, I'd guess that you need lower heat and longer time with the roux to develop the color without blackening it. Good idea. I'll give it a try next time. Every once in a while, I try to take a short cut with unfortunate results. Robert |
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