Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "ScratchMonkey" > wrote in
message
> >
> > A nice analysis of her "crime":
> >
> > http://harrybrowne.org/articles/MarthaStewart2.htm
> >
> > The real criminals are the federal prosecutors, making big names
for
> > themselves.
>
> Nice? She did something wrong and the writer says "so what" to her
lying
> and using inside trading. Just because you don't agree with a law,
you
> don't have the right to break it. <snip>

Since you're such a righteous and stern law and order man you should
know that MS has NOT been convicted of insider trading. That charge
wasn't even brought against her by the feds. In fact, her lawyers more
than once told the federal judge, Miriam Greenbaum, that the less alert
members of the public would believe that she was being tried for
insider trading.

Whether her action in selling the IMClone stock was, technically,
insider trading is yet to be determined. No criminal proceedings are
planned on the issue, as most knowledgeable observers do not believe a
criminal act took place. The SEC is planning a civil investigation but
no hearings, deposition-taking, etc., have been scheduled yet.

Mac

> wrote in message >
> Since you're such a righteous and stern law and order man you should
> know that MS has NOT been convicted of insider trading. That charge
> wasn't even brought against her by the feds.
> Mac
>
IIRC, she was convicted of lying tot he SEC. My point is, she broke the law
and is not above it because she is a celebrity, she its not above it because
other have done worse. Neither are you, neither am I.

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> > wrote in message >
> > Since you're such a righteous and stern law and order man you
should
> > know that MS has NOT been convicted of insider trading. That
charge
> > wasn't even brought against her by the feds.
> > Mac
> >
> IIRC, she was convicted of lying tot he SEC. My point is, she broke
the law
> and is not above it because she is a celebrity, she its not above it
because
> other have done worse. Neither are you, neither am I.

She was convicted of lying to the FBI and of obstruction of justice.
While all this was going on she wasn't accused of any crime....neither
insider trading, stealing, defrauding anyone, cooking the books, living
the high life, or cooking wimpy onion soup. No one lost money because
of her actions. A sense of balance seems to have been lost in the
baying for blood and the intoxication of moral outrage.

Mac

> wrote in message

> of her actions. A sense of balance seems to have been lost in the
> baying for blood and the intoxication of moral outrage.
>
> Mac
>

What would that sense of balance be? She lied, she made thing more
difficult than they had to be because she was evasive. .

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> > wrote in message >
>
>>Since you're such a righteous and stern law and order man you should
>>know that MS has NOT been convicted of insider trading. That charge
>>wasn't even brought against her by the feds.
>>Mac
>>
>
> IIRC, she was convicted of lying tot he SEC. My point is, she broke the law
> and is not above it because she is a celebrity, she its not above it because
> other have done worse. Neither are you, neither am I.
>
>

IIRC, she told the federal investigators she was innocent of insider
trading. Whether she was or not is irrelevant, she has a right to
not incriminate herself during an investigation, as all U.S. citizens
do via the 5th amendment to the U.S. Constitition. The jury was
apparently convinced she lied when she told the federal investigators
she was innocent and judged her guilty of lying to the investigators.
Seems like a blatent violation of her 5th amendment rights to me.

"Rich McCormack" > wrote in message


> The jury was
> apparently convinced she lied when she told the federal investigators
> she was innocent and judged her guilty of lying to the investigators.
> Seems like a blatent violation of her 5th amendment rights to me.
>

What violation? Taking the 5th does not make you innocent. It just allows
you to shut up if what you would say will incriminate you. I figure if
people are as innocent as they let on, they would not need to invoke the
5th. Sure, the was some call for blood, but mostly because of her
obstructionist ways. I don't think she or her lawyers handled it very well
from a publicity point of view.