On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Dan Abel wrote:

> In article <C8bXd.1167$uk7.608@fed1read01>, "Nexis" > wrote:
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>> "Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Nexis" >, if that's their real name, wrote:
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>>>> At least he has the support of those around him. It's hard when people
>>>> around you tell you that you're diabetic "by choice".
>
>>> WHAT??? People have actually said that to you? How moronic can people
>>> be? Un<bleeping>believable.

diabetes is a disease caused by people not listening to their bodies for
prolonged periods of time. whether you can actually become asymptomatic
depends mostly upon severity.

Lifestyle choices can eliminate the disease, if you listen in time.

lena

"Lena B Katz" > wrote in message
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>
>
> On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Dan Abel wrote:
>
>> In article <C8bXd.1167$uk7.608@fed1read01>, "Nexis" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> "Nexis" >, if that's their real name, wrote:
>>
>>>>> At least he has the support of those around him. It's hard when people
>>>>> around you tell you that you're diabetic "by choice".
>>
>>>> WHAT??? People have actually said that to you? How moronic can
>>>> people
>>>> be? Un<bleeping>believable.
>
> diabetes is a disease caused by people not listening to their bodies for
> prolonged periods of time.

Bullshit. Tell that to a 4 month old baby with diabetes.

> whether you can actually become asymptomatic depends mostly upon severity.
>
> Lifestyle choices can eliminate the disease, if you listen in time.
>

Being asymptomatic is not having eliminated the disease. As long as I use
my drops, my intraoccular pressure is fine -- but my glaucoma is still
there. In type 2 diabetes, controlling one's blood sugars with diet and
exercise is possible, but it doesn't mean the diabetes is gone.

Gabby

In article >, jem
> wrote:

> :-( Of course this makes me very unhappy. Fortunately I am being treated
> with oral medication for now, so am not getting needle sticks every day.
> I'm really going to have to change my lifestyle, which means my eating
> habits and more exercise (and losing 30 pounds. I'm 6'2" and the doctor
> wants me to get down to 200).


I don't eat a special diet, but I'm fairly thin (also 6'2" but more like
165 pounds). I lost about 15 pounds in the last year just by walking. I
went from 4 diabetes pills a day to 1/2. My cholesterol went from OK to
very good (I'm on a max dose of statins). I try to walk three hours a
day. Fortunately, I really like to walk.

--
Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS

On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Gabby wrote:

>
> "Lena B Katz" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Dan Abel wrote:
>>
>>> In article <C8bXd.1167$uk7.608@fed1read01>, "Nexis" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> "Nexis" >, if that's their real name, wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> At least he has the support of those around him. It's hard when people
>>>>>> around you tell you that you're diabetic "by choice".
>>>
>>>>> WHAT??? People have actually said that to you? How moronic can
>>>>> people
>>>>> be? Un<bleeping>believable.
>>
>> diabetes is a disease caused by people not listening to their bodies for
>> prolonged periods of time.
>
> Bullshit. Tell that to a 4 month old baby with diabetes.

meer. i really should have said type II. yes, i really should have.

>> whether you can actually become asymptomatic depends mostly upon severity.
>>
>> Lifestyle choices can eliminate the disease, if you listen in time.
>>
>
> Being asymptomatic is not having eliminated the disease.

Are you an alcoholic for life? I don't think so. particularly if you've
never shown signs in the first place...

Being asymptomatic on medication isn't truly asymptomatic. Depression and
other inflammatory diseases can become asymptomatic on their own, and they
are _gone_.

> As long as I use
> my drops, my intraoccular pressure is fine -- but my glaucoma is still
> there. In type 2 diabetes, controlling one's blood sugars with diet and
> exercise is possible, but it doesn't mean the diabetes is gone.

depends on how bad you have it... if you listen in time, you don't
actually have much problem with the whole shebang. (none of this, no
sugar, never stuff...)

then again, i know people never formally diagnosed with diabetes, who
still watch their sugar intake (mostly by moderating with chicken soup).

lena

Ted Campanelli wrote:

> Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
> so great) words of knowledge:
>
> Congratulations on giving up smoking !! I wish I could give it up. I
> have tried several times and finally decided smoking was less of a
> hazard than an upset wife and/or divorce.
>

Keep trying, it's worth it. I tried countless times over the years to quit,
often not making it through the day. Then one day the right circumstances
came together, I decided that would be my last day smoking --- I finished
that pack and managed to quit with virtually no effort.

Other than cigs going up to $3.00US a pack I couldn't tell you what the
"right circumstances" were, and they'll surely be different for everyone.
But if you don't try, it won't happen.

Maybe this will help: food tastes one *hell* of a lot better now that I'm
no longer smoking.

PreachMode = off

---jkb

--
"Oh! Spoons! Can I assume the potatoes will be mashed tonight?"
-- Bobby Hill

Gabby wrote:
> "Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>"Nancy Young" >, if that's their real name, wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The question is, do you have attached earlobes and can you curl your
>>>tongue.
>>
>>I have dangling earlobes, and very tall ears, if that makes any sense.
>>They're not little cute round ears.
>>
>>Yes, I can curl my tongue, and yes, I can tie a knot in a cherry stem.
>
>
> Isn't the study of genetics fascinating?! Hubby, daughter, sons & I can all
> curl our tongues, but the youngest son can fold his so that the tip looks
> like a clover. None of us can figure out how he does it.
>
> Gabby
>
>
My daughter could turn her tonge upside down, as in rolling the tip 180
degrees. Really freaky.

Lena B Katz wrote:
>
> diabetes is a disease caused by people not listening to their bodies for
> prolonged periods of time. whether you can actually become asymptomatic
> depends mostly upon severity.
> Lifestyle choices can eliminate the disease, if you listen in time.
> lena

You are on to something there with Type 2, but
that's not the case at all with Type 1.
Goomba

jem > wrote:
>Favorite
>recipes, meals, snack suggestions would really be appreciated. Feel free
>to post here or email to me. Thanks.
>
>James
Well the MIL wan't too specific, but she's apparently pretty much on
the South Beach Diet, with some exceptions. You'd want to ask your doc
first, but it seems more logical and easy-to-follow than most diets.
I think she is still in Phase I, sometimes with a little overlap. We
don't have the big book, but my wife has the companion "The South
Beach Diet Good Eats Good Carbs Guide". It's about 130 pages, was 7
bucks I think. It's just loaded with common sense, and even has some
dining-out guides. Turns out, it was originally for pre-diabetes
patients who were at risk. It's by Arthur Agatston, ISBN
1-57954-958-6. YMMV.