:-( Of course this makes me very unhappy. Fortunately I am being treated
with oral medication for now, so am not getting needle sticks every day.
I'm really going to have to change my lifestyle, which means my eating
habits and more exercise (and losing 30 pounds. I'm 6'2" and the doctor
wants me to get down to 200). Could people how have this email me some
of their favorite recipes? Fortunately/Unfortunately I like about
everything, savory, vegatables, pasta, starch and sweets. Favorite
recipes, meals, snack suggestions would really be appreciated. Feel free
to post here or email to me. Thanks.

James

On Sat 05 Mar 2005 06:21:20p, jem wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>:-( Of course this makes me very unhappy. Fortunately I am being treated
> with oral medication for now, so am not getting needle sticks every day.
> I'm really going to have to change my lifestyle, which means my eating
> habits and more exercise (and losing 30 pounds. I'm 6'2" and the doctor
> wants me to get down to 200). Could people how have this email me some
> of their favorite recipes? Fortunately/Unfortunately I like about
> everything, savory, vegatables, pasta, starch and sweets. Favorite
> recipes, meals, snack suggestions would really be appreciated. Feel free
> to post here or email to me. Thanks.
>
> James

I have both diabetes and high blood pressure as well, and take oral
medications for both. I eat a pretty normal diet and range of foods, but try
to eat fewer carbohydrates and fats.

You might check out alt.food.diabetic. It's a good source for the
information you're seeking.

--
Wayne Boatwright
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sat 05 Mar 2005 06:21:20p, jem wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>
>>:-( Of course this makes me very unhappy. Fortunately I am being treated
>>with oral medication for now, so am not getting needle sticks every day.
>>I'm really going to have to change my lifestyle, which means my eating
>>habits and more exercise (and losing 30 pounds. I'm 6'2" and the doctor
>>wants me to get down to 200). Could people how have this email me some
>>of their favorite recipes? Fortunately/Unfortunately I like about
>>everything, savory, vegatables, pasta, starch and sweets. Favorite
>>recipes, meals, snack suggestions would really be appreciated. Feel free
>>to post here or email to me. Thanks.
>>
>>James
>
>
> I have both diabetes and high blood pressure as well, and take oral
> medications for both. I eat a pretty normal diet and range of foods, but try
> to eat fewer carbohydrates and fats.
>
> You might check out alt.food.diabetic. It's a good source for the
> information you're seeking.
>
That's what I'm doing so far. Cutting portions down, no more sugar from
soda/tea/coffee. Cutting out most of the snacking and sweets. I did have
2 butter rum Lifesaver's for dessert. Yum. Thanks for the tip on a.f.d.

jem > wrote:
>That's what I'm doing so far. Cutting portions down, no more sugar from
>soda/tea/coffee. Cutting out most of the snacking and sweets. I did have
>2 butter rum Lifesaver's for dessert. Yum. Thanks for the tip on a.f.d.
My mother-in law is an old time down-home backwoods Arkansas cook who
raised a family of 8 with almost no income. Her cooking was mostly
based on lard, lots of filling starches and salt. If she could
change, anyone can. I'll get back to you tomorrow evening with
whatever I find out.

TheAlligator wrote:
> jem > wrote:
>
>>That's what I'm doing so far. Cutting portions down, no more sugar from
>>soda/tea/coffee. Cutting out most of the snacking and sweets. I did have
>>2 butter rum Lifesaver's for dessert. Yum. Thanks for the tip on a.f.d.
>
> My mother-in law is an old time down-home backwoods Arkansas cook who
> raised a family of 8 with almost no income. Her cooking was mostly
> based on lard, lots of filling starches and salt. If she could
> change, anyone can. I'll get back to you tomorrow evening with
> whatever I find out.

Great! Thanks. Lard is good.

In article >, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>On Sat 05 Mar 2005 06:21:20p, jem wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>:-( Of course this makes me very unhappy. Fortunately I am being treated
>> with oral medication for now, so am not getting needle sticks every day.
>> I'm really going to have to change my lifestyle, which means my eating
>> habits and more exercise (and losing 30 pounds. I'm 6'2" and the doctor
>> wants me to get down to 200). Could people how have this email me some
>> of their favorite recipes? Fortunately/Unfortunately I like about
>> everything, savory, vegatables, pasta, starch and sweets. Favorite
>> recipes, meals, snack suggestions would really be appreciated. Feel free
>> to post here or email to me. Thanks.
>
>I have both diabetes and high blood pressure as well, and take oral
>medications for both. I eat a pretty normal diet and range of foods, but try
>to eat fewer carbohydrates and fats.
>
>You might check out alt.food.diabetic. It's a good source for the
>information you're seeking.

There are also many web resources, including some with good advice.

For diabetic newbies, this seems sensible:
<http://www.mendosa.com/advice.htm>

The site also has links to other resources for diabetics. Start at
<http://www.mendosa.com/diabetes.htm>

Cheers, Phred.

--
LID

jem > wrote:

>:-( Of course this makes me very unhappy. Fortunately I am being treated
>with oral medication for now, so am not getting needle sticks every day.
>I'm really going to have to change my lifestyle, which means my eating
>habits and more exercise (and losing 30 pounds. I'm 6'2" and the doctor
>wants me to get down to 200). Could people how have this email me some
>of their favorite recipes? Fortunately/Unfortunately I like about
>everything, savory, vegatables, pasta, starch and sweets. Favorite
>recipes, meals, snack suggestions would really be appreciated. Feel free
>to post here or email to me. Thanks.
>
>James
A very close friend of mine who was - lets' not say overweight, he
just had the 50 year old paunch going - suddenly came down with the
same problem. I know he LOVES everything that is bad for him, but he
drastically changed his diet, got much healthier, and has things
pretty much under control. He says he's pretty much used to things,
now. I never thought to ask him just exactly what he did as far as
diet. I went through a drastic diet change for different reasons, but
unfortunately mine is the exact opposite of what yours will be. He
moved away recently, but I'll try to hook up and see if he has any
advice for you. Oh, my mother-in-law is coming to visit tommorrow for
a couple of days, and she is diabetic. Maybe I'll have some info for
you quicker than I thought. Whatever, don't let it get you down - it's
common and you WILL find a lifestyle that you can get used to - I
swear.

TheAlligator wrote:
> jem > wrote:
>
>
>>:-( Of course this makes me very unhappy. Fortunately I am being treated
>>with oral medication for now, so am not getting needle sticks every day.
>>I'm really going to have to change my lifestyle, which means my eating
>>habits and more exercise (and losing 30 pounds. I'm 6'2" and the doctor
>>wants me to get down to 200). Could people how have this email me some
>>of their favorite recipes? Fortunately/Unfortunately I like about
>>everything, savory, vegatables, pasta, starch and sweets. Favorite
>>recipes, meals, snack suggestions would really be appreciated. Feel free
>>to post here or email to me. Thanks.
>>
>>James
>
> A very close friend of mine who was - lets' not say overweight, he
> just had the 50 year old paunch going - suddenly came down with the
> same problem. I know he LOVES everything that is bad for him, but he
> drastically changed his diet, got much healthier, and has things
> pretty much under control. He says he's pretty much used to things,
> now. I never thought to ask him just exactly what he did as far as
> diet. I went through a drastic diet change for different reasons, but
> unfortunately mine is the exact opposite of what yours will be. He
> moved away recently, but I'll try to hook up and see if he has any
> advice for you. Oh, my mother-in-law is coming to visit tommorrow for
> a couple of days, and she is diabetic. Maybe I'll have some info for
> you quicker than I thought. Whatever, don't let it get you down - it's
> common and you WILL find a lifestyle that you can get used to - I
> swear.

Thanks. Fortunately my wife and the rest of my family are very
supportive. I have a brother-in-law who has both type I and type II
diabetes and has been managing very well for many years, so I know it's
not necessarily the end of the world.

jem >, if that's their real name, wrote:

>I have a brother-in-law who has both type I and type II
>diabetes and has been managing very well for many years, so I know it's
>not necessarily the end of the world.

Huh? I've never heard of anyone with both type 1 and type 2. If you know
the particulars, can you share them with us?

I'm diabetic with high blood pressure, too. You don't want my advice. I'm
really struggling with it right now. You may find (and it's normal) that
you'll go into and out of denial about your diabetes. It's not an easily
accepted disease. <sigh>

Carol, who cried in the bakery section of the grocery store today
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
...
> jem >, if that's their real name, wrote:
>
> >I have a brother-in-law who has both type I and type II
> >diabetes and has been managing very well for many years, so I know it's
> >not necessarily the end of the world.
>
> Huh? I've never heard of anyone with both type 1 and type 2. If you know
> the particulars, can you share them with us?
>
> I'm diabetic with high blood pressure, too. You don't want my advice.
I'm
> really struggling with it right now. You may find (and it's normal) that
> you'll go into and out of denial about your diabetes. It's not an easily
> accepted disease. <sigh>
>
> Carol, who cried in the bakery section of the grocery store today
> --

At least he has the support of those around him. It's hard when people
around you tell you that you're diabetic "by choice".

kimberly

"Nexis" > wrote in message
news:inBWd.155780$Yu.12460@fed1read01...
> At least he has the support of those around him. It's hard when people
> around you tell you that you're diabetic "by choice".

Huh? Diabetic 'by choice'? That's a new one. How exactly does one choose
to have one's islet cells stop producing insulin?

Gabby

"Nexis" >, if that's their real name, wrote:

>At least he has the support of those around him. It's hard when people
>around you tell you that you're diabetic "by choice".

WHAT??? People have actually said that to you? How moronic can people
be? Un<bleeping>believable.

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
...

> I'm diabetic with high blood pressure, too. You don't want my advice.
> I'm
> really struggling with it right now. You may find (and it's normal) that
> you'll go into and out of denial about your diabetes. It's not an easily
> accepted disease. <sigh>

No kidding! Hubby went into denial about 18 months after he was diagnosed,
once he started feeling well again. He's been in denial for the past 8 1/2
years. Not following his diet has meant the loss of his air traffic
controller licence (he was lucky enough to find another job within the same
company) & impotence. But that still isn't enough for him to control his
blood sugars.

Gabby

In article >, "Gabby" > wrote:
>
>"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
.. .
>
>> I'm diabetic with high blood pressure, too. You don't want my advice.
>> I'm
>> really struggling with it right now. You may find (and it's normal) that
>> you'll go into and out of denial about your diabetes. It's not an easily
>> accepted disease. <sigh>
>
>No kidding! Hubby went into denial about 18 months after he was diagnosed,
>once he started feeling well again. He's been in denial for the past 8 1/2
>years. Not following his diet has meant the loss of his air traffic
>controller licence (he was lucky enough to find another job within the same
>company) & impotence. But that still isn't enough for him to control his
>blood sugars.

Maybe loss of a leg will do it.

Cheers, Phred.

--
LID

In article >,
Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:

> jem >, if that's their real name, wrote:
>
> >I have a brother-in-law who has both type I and type II
> >diabetes and has been managing very well for many years, so I know it's
> >not necessarily the end of the world.
>
> Huh? I've never heard of anyone with both type 1 and type 2. If you know
> the particulars, can you share them with us?

Oh, yeah. It happens. I think the most common scenario for it is a T1
who develops insulin resistance later. I presume they had the genes for
IR but got zapped with T1 before the T2 could develop. Then it did.

Priscilla, T2
--
"And what's this crap about Sodomites? It's always Sodomites this and
Sodomites that. What about us Gomorrahians? We were there too; we
deserve some mention. Sodom always gets the credit, and Gomorrah always
does the work." - JohnN in alt.religion.christian.episcopal

Priscilla Ballou >, if that's their real name, wrote:

>In article >,
> Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:
>
>> jem >, if that's their real name, wrote:
>>
>> >I have a brother-in-law who has both type I and type II
>> >diabetes and has been managing very well for many years, so I know it's
>> >not necessarily the end of the world.
>>
>> Huh? I've never heard of anyone with both type 1 and type 2. If you know
>> the particulars, can you share them with us?
>
>Oh, yeah. It happens. I think the most common scenario for it is a T1
>who develops insulin resistance later. I presume they had the genes for
>IR but got zapped with T1 before the T2 could develop. Then it did.
>
>Priscilla, T2

Wow! The things you learn on Usenet. BTW, after seeing in print my
comment about crying in the bakery section of the store last night, I knew
I had to give myself a good kick in the butt and start taking better care
of myself.

I have, in front of me, a big bowl of plain Dannon's yogurt with DaVinci's
sugar-free vanilla syrup and a bunch of cinnamon mixed into it. Reminds me
of my mom's sour cream apple pies. (Thinking to self - check and see if
DaVinci's makes a sugar free apple flavored syrup)

Carol, also a Type 2
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
> jem >, if that's their real name, wrote:
>
>
>>I have a brother-in-law who has both type I and type II
>>diabetes and has been managing very well for many years, so I know it's
>>not necessarily the end of the world.
>
>
> Huh? I've never heard of anyone with both type 1 and type 2. If you know
> the particulars, can you share them with us?
>
> I'm diabetic with high blood pressure, too. You don't want my advice. I'm
> really struggling with it right now. You may find (and it's normal) that
> you'll go into and out of denial about your diabetes. It's not an easily
> accepted disease. <sigh>
>
> Carol, who cried in the bakery section of the grocery store today

All I really know is that he's called a 'double-diabetic'. Sorry I don't
have more info.

On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 03:54:13 GMT, jem > wrote:

>TheAlligator wrote:
>> jem > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>:-( Of course this makes me very unhappy. Fortunately I am being treated
>>>with oral medication for now, so am not getting needle sticks every day.
>>>I'm really going to have to change my lifestyle, which means my eating
>>>habits and more exercise (and losing 30 pounds. I'm 6'2" and the doctor
>>>wants me to get down to 200). Could people how have this email me some
>>>of their favorite recipes? Fortunately/Unfortunately I like about
>>>everything, savory, vegatables, pasta, starch and sweets. Favorite
>>>recipes, meals, snack suggestions would really be appreciated. Feel free
>>>to post here or email to me. Thanks.
>>>
<snip>

>Thanks. Fortunately my wife and the rest of my family are very
>supportive. I have a brother-in-law who has both type I and type II
>diabetes and has been managing very well for many years, so I know it's
>not necessarily the end of the world.

Just a matter of moving what was an internal regulatory matter to an
external regulatory matter.

I can't give you any favourite recipes, as I'm still messing around
with them myself. I'm not diabetic, but am doing the current weight
watchers program. I'd recommend buying one of the many excellent
diabetic cookbooks, (and I can't recommend this one enough, I LOVE
it!) "Cookwise", which will give you some scientific understanding of
how ingredients work and which will help you adapt your current
favourite recipes to your new dietary requirements.

I put a new menu together every time my dad (who's type 2 diabetic)
and my mom (who's gluten, dairy and soy intolerant) come for dinner. I
regard it as a cooking challenge. So far, no complete misses.

Shirley Hicks
Toronto, Ontario

I lowered my cholesterol, in 6 months, by 6 points, by drinking tons of
water, more fiber, I eat oatmeal with Fiber One cereal in it, just about
every morning. My sugar even was rather good! And for as much sugar as I
feel I eat, I didn't think it would turn out as good as it did. I don't like
eating at fast food places any more, can't believe how much grease is in
some of them. Hope this much helps you out. Carol In WI

Carol In WI wrote:
> I lowered my cholesterol, in 6 months, by 6 points, by drinking tons of
> water, more fiber, I eat oatmeal with Fiber One cereal in it, just about
> every morning. My sugar even was rather good! And for as much sugar as I
> feel I eat, I didn't think it would turn out as good as it did. I don't like
> eating at fast food places any more, can't believe how much grease is in
> some of them. Hope this much helps you out. Carol In WI
>
>

6 points? Maybe I'm not on the same page as you, but that isn't a large
drop is it?

Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
so great) words of knowledge:

> :-( Of course this makes me very unhappy. Fortunately I am being treated
> with oral medication for now, so am not getting needle sticks every day.
> I'm really going to have to change my lifestyle, which means my eating
> habits and more exercise (and losing 30 pounds. I'm 6'2" and the doctor
> wants me to get down to 200). Could people how have this email me some
> of their favorite recipes? Fortunately/Unfortunately I like about
> everything, savory, vegatables, pasta, starch and sweets. Favorite
> recipes, meals, snack suggestions would really be appreciated. Feel free
> to post here or email to me. Thanks.
>
> James


In addition to the things you mentioned there are two other things that
will help. My wife is an RN AND a Certified Holistic Nurse. She has
suggested these 2 things to her patients with diabetes and/or
cholesterol problems.

1. 1/2 teaspoon of cinnamon in your morning coffee or tea WILL reduce
your blood sugar level by about 25 points. It takes an average of 3
months for this to work. This has been documented in many alternative
health journals. BTW - more than 1/2 tsp will not lower the blood sugar
level more, 1/2 tsp is the recommended amount.

2. 1 garlic pill (1,000 mg ) a day will lower your cholesterol about 10
points. This takes about 2 weeks before results are seen.

Ted Campanelli wrote:
.. My wife is an RN AND a Certified Holistic Nurse.

certified by whom??
Goomba

On Sun 06 Mar 2005 01:45:59p, Goomba38 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Ted Campanelli wrote:
> . My wife is an RN AND a Certified Holistic Nurse.
>
> certified by whom??
> Goomba

Dunno, but somebody must. My doctor, an osteopath, is certified as a
holistic specialist. The diplomas/certificates say so, but I've never paid
attention to the details.

--
Wayne Boatwright
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
so great) words of knowledge:

> On Sun 06 Mar 2005 01:45:59p, Goomba38 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> Ted Campanelli wrote:
>> . My wife is an RN AND a Certified Holistic Nurse.
>>
>> certified by whom??
>> Goomba
>
> Dunno, but somebody must. My doctor, an osteopath, is certified as a
> holistic specialist. The diplomas/certificates say so, but I've never paid
> attention to the details.
>

Certified by the National Board of Holistic Nurses. This is a bonifide
organization with very high standards that is recognized by MOST medical
organizations and medical practitioners. I am not sure if it is
recognized by the AMA. But then the AMA often takes 15 - 20 years to
recognize and accept medicines and medical procedures that are in common
use in other countries.

A prime example - A disk replacement procedure for bad backs that has
been in use in Europe for over 10 years with a 90%+ success rate
(compared to present US procedures with a 25% success rate) with a
recovery time of 1/2 of the present procedure being used . The AMA has
recently recognized it for "Limited Trial Use" in this country.

Ted Campanelli wrote:


>>> Ted Campanelli wrote:
>>> . My wife is an RN AND a Certified Holistic Nurse.
>>>
>>> certified by whom??
>>> Goomba
>>
>>
>> Dunno, but somebody must. My doctor, an osteopath, is certified as a
>> holistic specialist. The diplomas/certificates say so, but I've never
>> paid attention to the details.
>>
>
> Certified by the National Board of Holistic Nurses. This is a bonifide
> organization with very high standards that is recognized by MOST medical
> organizations and medical practitioners. I am not sure if it is
> recognized by the AMA. But then the AMA often takes 15 - 20 years to
> recognize and accept medicines and medical procedures that are in common
> use in other countries.

See? This is the weird thing- Nurses don't answer
to the AMA, or to doctors. We answer to our own
board of nursing. Nurses don't work under the
medical model, rather from the Nursing model. What
the AMA does or does not do has *nothing* to do
with nurses and nursing.
Goomba

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sun 06 Mar 2005 01:45:59p, Goomba38 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>
>>Ted Campanelli wrote:
>>. My wife is an RN AND a Certified Holistic Nurse.
>>
>>certified by whom??
>>Goomba
>
>
> Dunno, but somebody must. My doctor, an osteopath, is certified as a
> holistic specialist. The diplomas/certificates say so, but I've never paid
> attention to the details.

Oh I love working with D.O.'s.. they're great
doctors. But I've never seen a established
certification as a "Holistic Nurse" before...and
I'm a nurse!? Just wasn't sure if this was through
ANA/ANCC or one of the large national nursing
credential sources or some fly by night mail order
group? It's a new one to me. That's all?
Goomba

In article >,
jem > wrote:

> :-( Of course this makes me very unhappy. Fortunately I am being treated
> with oral medication for now, so am not getting needle sticks every day.
> I'm really going to have to change my lifestyle, which means my eating
> habits and more exercise (and losing 30 pounds. I'm 6'2" and the doctor
> wants me to get down to 200). Could people how have this email me some
> of their favorite recipes? Fortunately/Unfortunately I like about
> everything, savory, vegatables, pasta, starch and sweets. Favorite
> recipes, meals, snack suggestions would really be appreciated. Feel free
> to post here or email to me. Thanks.
>
> James

Try posting your question on the diabetes newsgroup. There are
alt.food.diabetes and alt.support.diabetes newsgroups where such
questions are perfect. The American Diabetes Association also has
a wonderful web site at http://www.diabetes.org with tons of recipes
and other information for diabetics.

I am diabetic too, as of six months ago. Eating a healthy diet is
important, but do not disregard the importance of getting regular
exercise. Walking two or three miles every other day does wonders to
help control diabetes.

For example, a few days ago, I went to a business/lunch meeting where
free pizza was served. I ate four slices. At around 5:00pm, I tested my
blood sugar and it was 159! I high tailed it to the gym across from my
office and I did three miles of brisk walking there on the indoor track.
I returned to my office where I tested my blood glucose again and it was
down to 86! All I did was walk briskly for three miles to get it to
drop; no drugs. I do take Avandment in the morning and night though.

I just visited my primary care physician yesterday. He told me I lost
six pounds since my previous visit three months ago and my BP was
110/70, which is great. My fasting BG numbers are well in control too. I
accomplished this simply by eating sensibly and getting regular exercise.

In article >, Stan Horwitz
> wrote:
(snip)
>I returned to my office where I tested my blood glucose again and it
>was down to 86! All I did was walk briskly for three miles to get it
>to drop; no drugs. I do take Avandment in the morning and night
>though.

> I just visited my primary care physician yesterday. He told me I lost
> six pounds since my previous visit three months ago and my BP was
> 110/70, which is great. My fasting BG numbers are well in control too. I
> accomplished this simply by eating sensibly and getting regular exercise.

And a prescription drug for diabetes. (Congrats on the better numbers,
BTW.)
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Sweet Potato Follies added 2/24/05.
"I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and
say,'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner,
performance at New York, New York, January 10, 2005.

One time on Usenet, jem > said:

> :-( Of course this makes me very unhappy. Fortunately I am being treated
> with oral medication for now, so am not getting needle sticks every day.
> I'm really going to have to change my lifestyle, which means my eating
> habits and more exercise (and losing 30 pounds. I'm 6'2" and the doctor
> wants me to get down to 200). Could people how have this email me some
> of their favorite recipes? Fortunately/Unfortunately I like about
> everything, savory, vegatables, pasta, starch and sweets. Favorite
> recipes, meals, snack suggestions would really be appreciated. Feel free
> to post here or email to me. Thanks.

I was diagnosed as a Type 2 diabetic in Feb '04. I've lost 40
pounds since then through lower calorie diet and walking 5-10 miles
per week, and the disease is currently in remission (my HbA1C is a
down from 9.1 to a mere 4.9 now, yay!). Rather than looking for specific
recipes, I suggest you attend a nutrition class at your local hospital
or clinic, if available. Cutting calories and learning to count carb
units let me continue to eat carbs, just not in the quantities that I
was consuming them in the past. You can get a lot of great information
about this in alt.support.diet and alt.support.diet.low-carb. Best of
luck... :-)

--
J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~
"You still haven't explained why the pool is
filled with elf blood." - Frylock, ATHF

Gal Called J.J. wrote:
> One time on Usenet, jem > said:
>
>
>>:-( Of course this makes me very unhappy. Fortunately I am being treated
>>with oral medication for now, so am not getting needle sticks every day.
>>I'm really going to have to change my lifestyle, which means my eating
>>habits and more exercise (and losing 30 pounds. I'm 6'2" and the doctor
>>wants me to get down to 200). Could people how have this email me some
>>of their favorite recipes? Fortunately/Unfortunately I like about
>>everything, savory, vegatables, pasta, starch and sweets. Favorite
>>recipes, meals, snack suggestions would really be appreciated. Feel free
>>to post here or email to me. Thanks.
>
>
> I was diagnosed as a Type 2 diabetic in Feb '04. I've lost 40
> pounds since then through lower calorie diet and walking 5-10 miles
> per week, and the disease is currently in remission (my HbA1C is a
> down from 9.1 to a mere 4.9 now, yay!). Rather than looking for specific
> recipes, I suggest you attend a nutrition class at your local hospital
> or clinic, if available. Cutting calories and learning to count carb
> units let me continue to eat carbs, just not in the quantities that I
> was consuming them in the past. You can get a lot of great information
> about this in alt.support.diet and alt.support.diet.low-carb. Best of
> luck... :-)
>
I am scheduled to meet with a dietician at my doctor's office the week
after next, but am trying to get started already. My brother-in-law does
the carb counting and it seems to work pretty well for him. Oh, and I
have to quit smoking, too. I will not buy any more, am down to 8-9
cigarettes/day right now.

Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
so great) words of knowledge:

Congratulations on giving up smoking !! I wish I could give it up. I
have tried several times and finally decided smoking was less of a
hazard than an upset wife and/or divorce.

> Gal Called J.J. wrote:
>> One time on Usenet, jem > said:
>>
>>
>>>:-( Of course this makes me very unhappy. Fortunately I am being treated
>>>with oral medication for now, so am not getting needle sticks every day.
>>>I'm really going to have to change my lifestyle, which means my eating
>>>habits and more exercise (and losing 30 pounds. I'm 6'2" and the doctor
>>>wants me to get down to 200). Could people how have this email me some
>>>of their favorite recipes? Fortunately/Unfortunately I like about
>>>everything, savory, vegatables, pasta, starch and sweets. Favorite
>>>recipes, meals, snack suggestions would really be appreciated. Feel free
>>>to post here or email to me. Thanks.
>>
>>
>> I was diagnosed as a Type 2 diabetic in Feb '04. I've lost 40
>> pounds since then through lower calorie diet and walking 5-10 miles
>> per week, and the disease is currently in remission (my HbA1C is a
>> down from 9.1 to a mere 4.9 now, yay!). Rather than looking for specific
>> recipes, I suggest you attend a nutrition class at your local hospital
>> or clinic, if available. Cutting calories and learning to count carb
>> units let me continue to eat carbs, just not in the quantities that I
>> was consuming them in the past. You can get a lot of great information
>> about this in alt.support.diet and alt.support.diet.low-carb. Best of
>> luck... :-)
>>
> I am scheduled to meet with a dietician at my doctor's office the week
> after next, but am trying to get started already. My brother-in-law does
> the carb counting and it seems to work pretty well for him. Oh, and I
> have to quit smoking, too. I will not buy any more, am down to 8-9
> cigarettes/day right now.

Ted Campanelli wrote:
> Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
> so great) words of knowledge:
>
> Congratulations on giving up smoking !! I wish I could give it up. I
> have tried several times and finally decided smoking was less of a
> hazard than an upset wife and/or divorce.

I'm not there yet, but ramping down nicely. I'm not buying any more
cigs. I was at about a pack a day one week ago and smoked 8 yesterday.
It's easier than the diet changes. :-(

Ted Campanelli wrote:

> Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
> so great) words of knowledge:
>
> Congratulations on giving up smoking !! I wish I could give it up. I
> have tried several times and finally decided smoking was less of a
> hazard than an upset wife and/or divorce.
>

Keep trying, it's worth it. I tried countless times over the years to quit,
often not making it through the day. Then one day the right circumstances
came together, I decided that would be my last day smoking --- I finished
that pack and managed to quit with virtually no effort.

Other than cigs going up to $3.00US a pack I couldn't tell you what the
"right circumstances" were, and they'll surely be different for everyone.
But if you don't try, it won't happen.

Maybe this will help: food tastes one *hell* of a lot better now that I'm
no longer smoking.

PreachMode = off

---jkb

--
"Oh! Spoons! Can I assume the potatoes will be mashed tonight?"
-- Bobby Hill

jem wrote:
> :-( Of course this makes me very unhappy. Fortunately I am being treated
> with oral medication for now, so am not getting needle sticks every day.
> I'm really going to have to change my lifestyle, which means my eating
> habits and more exercise (and losing 30 pounds. I'm 6'2" and the doctor
> wants me to get down to 200). Could people how have this email me some
> of their favorite recipes? Fortunately/Unfortunately I like about
> everything, savory, vegatables, pasta, starch and sweets. Favorite
> recipes, meals, snack suggestions would really be appreciated. Feel free
> to post here or email to me. Thanks.
>
> James


If it weren't for the high cholesterol part, I would say Adkin's Diet
plus exercise. (BTW, I don't believe Adkin's's a normally good weight
loss program, but I'm naturally a skeptic about such things.) It might
be a good way to go even with the high cholesterol if you monitor it
closely and switch to something else if your LDL goes up instead of
down. I suspect the cholesterol will go down by itself as you lose
weight, and Adkin's diet should be great for diabetics -- and my brother
has lost 60 or more pounds on high protein with very low carbohydrates.
I know one of the things he eats a lot is chili, made with lean beef
and *lots* of tomatoes and fresh and dried peppers in it. He'll make a
huge pot of chili and then eat almost nothing else but that and a few
Fritos for a week at a time.

Good luck, and best regards,
Bob <-- doesn't put tomatoes in chili :-)

zxcvbob >, if that's their real name, wrote:

>If it weren't for the high cholesterol part, I would say Adkin's Diet
>plus exercise. (BTW, I don't believe Adkin's's a normally good weight
>loss program, but I'm naturally a skeptic about such things.) It might
>be a good way to go even with the high cholesterol if you monitor it
>closely and switch to something else if your LDL goes up instead of
>down. I suspect the cholesterol will go down by itself as you lose
>weight, and Adkin's diet should be great for diabetics -- and my brother
>has lost 60 or more pounds on high protein with very low carbohydrates.

Atkins is GREAT for high cholesterol. Here's a copy of a post I made to
the low-carb group, before I fell off the wagon. I'd lost 40 pounds.

This is the difference from November of 2002 to April of 2003:

Total Cholesterol from 195 to 167
HDL from 44 to 52
LDL from 117 to 91
Ratio from 2.7 to 1.7
Triglycerides from 168 to 121

Low carb is the way to go. (BTW, Atkins isn't a high protein diet. It's
high fat sufficient protein, and low carb)

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

In article >,
Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:

> zxcvbob >, if that's their real name, wrote:
>
> >If it weren't for the high cholesterol part, I would say Adkin's Diet
> >plus exercise. (BTW, I don't believe Adkin's's a normally good weight
> >loss program, but I'm naturally a skeptic about such things.) It might
> >be a good way to go even with the high cholesterol if you monitor it
> >closely and switch to something else if your LDL goes up instead of
> >down. I suspect the cholesterol will go down by itself as you lose
> >weight, and Adkin's diet should be great for diabetics -- and my brother
> >has lost 60 or more pounds on high protein with very low carbohydrates.
>
> Atkins is GREAT for high cholesterol. Here's a copy of a post I made to
> the low-carb group, before I fell off the wagon. I'd lost 40 pounds.
>
> This is the difference from November of 2002 to April of 2003:
>
> Total Cholesterol from 195 to 167
> HDL from 44 to 52
> LDL from 117 to 91
> Ratio from 2.7 to 1.7
> Triglycerides from 168 to 121
>
> Low carb is the way to go. (BTW, Atkins isn't a high protein diet. It's
> high fat sufficient protein, and low carb)

Carol is correct.

Priscilla
--
"And what's this crap about Sodomites? It's always Sodomites this and
Sodomites that. What about us Gomorrahians? We were there too; we
deserve some mention. Sodom always gets the credit, and Gomorrah always
does the work." - JohnN in alt.religion.christian.episcopal

In article >, jem
> wrote:

> :-( Of course this makes me very unhappy. Fortunately I am being treated
> with oral medication for now, so am not getting needle sticks every day.
> I'm really going to have to change my lifestyle, which means my eating
> habits and more exercise (and losing 30 pounds. I'm 6'2" and the doctor
> wants me to get down to 200). Could people how have this email me some
> of their favorite recipes? Fortunately/Unfortunately I like about
> everything, savory, vegatables, pasta, starch and sweets. Favorite
> recipes, meals, snack suggestions would really be appreciated. Feel free
> to post here or email to me. Thanks.
>
> James

James, have you attended any cholesterol or diabetes education classes?
I'd start there. I'm currently in such a class and find it all pretty
interesting. Next class will have some recipes included. Check with
your local hospital's education department. Diet change and exercise
will get you lower numbers faster than just diet alone. I hate
exercising but joined the Y four months ago and survive only with a
headset -- otherwise it bores me to tears. I watch TV and/or listen to
tunes or news while stepping along.

I've been logging all that I ingest for three days now and know wherein
some of my demons lie. The fact that I have a big *appetite* is tough,
too. I may take up chewing gum more.

Good luck to you, Sir.
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Sweet Potato Follies added 2/24/05.
"I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and
say,'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner,
performance at New York, New York, January 10, 2005.

Melba's Jammin' > wrote in
:

> In article >, jem
> > wrote:
>
> > :-( Of course this makes me very unhappy. Fortunately I am being
> > :treated
> > with oral medication for now, so am not getting needle sticks
> > every day. I'm really going to have to change my lifestyle, which
> > means my eating habits and more exercise (and losing 30 pounds.
> > I'm 6'2" and the doctor wants me to get down to 200). Could people
> > how have this email me some of their favorite recipes?
> > Fortunately/Unfortunately I like about everything, savory,
> > vegatables, pasta, starch and sweets. Favorite recipes, meals,
> > snack suggestions would really be appreciated. Feel free to post
> > here or email to me. Thanks.
> >
> > James
>
> James, have you attended any cholesterol or diabetes education
> classes? I'd start there. I'm currently in such a class and find
> it all pretty interesting. Next class will have some recipes
> included. Check with your local hospital's education department.
> Diet change and exercise will get you lower numbers faster than just
> diet alone. I hate exercising but joined the Y four months ago and
> survive only with a headset -- otherwise it bores me to tears. I
> watch TV and/or listen to tunes or news while stepping along.
>
> I've been logging all that I ingest for three days now and know
> wherein some of my demons lie. The fact that I have a big
> *appetite* is tough, too. I may take up chewing gum more.
>
> Good luck to you, Sir.

I went to a diabetes educational dealie (3 4hr seminars)...They wanted me
to eat up to 45 grams of carbs per meal and watch my fat.

They wanted me to test only once or twice a day. I test 8-10 times a
day...before and 2 times after meals(1 hr and 2 hr),when I awake and just
random tests. How else can you know what's happening?


Do you know what 45 grams of carbs does to your Blood Glucose? ...It
causes a spike, a large increase. I eat 20-25 carbs a day. I do miss rice
though. Anytime your BG goes over 7.8mmol or 140mg/dl you cause permenent
damage to your body...Crud collects on your arteries walls or on your
nerve fibres, or on your optic nerve. Causing future blindness, nerve
damage, limb loss or heart attacks/strokes...No thank You...I'll stick to
my 20-25 carbs a day. That way I stay well under 6.0 mmol or 108 mg/dl.

A shocking stat 95% of type 2 smokers loose at least 1 limb. This isn't a
wimpy disease, it is a very evil condition. There are those who believe
type 2 is the main cause of heart disease. It is a hidden plague only one
in 10 sufferers know they have it.

I'll stop ranting/preaching now.


--
No Bread Crumbs were hurt in the making of this Meal.
Type 2 Diabetic 1AC 5.6mmol or 101mg/dl
Continuing to be Manitoban

Cheer up. Medical technology has got this killer figured out. In five years,
you will be able to have some stem cells injected into your buggered up
pancreas and those magic cells will be regenerated. If this technology
really works, everybody can get replacement body parts. Need a new liver,
penis or heart? Just like replacing the parts in your car. You could also
clone a replacement James without a brain and use the dummy for spare parts.
Until then do what the doctors say.

F.J.

In article >,
"Fudge" > wrote:

> Cheer up. Medical technology has got this killer figured out. In five years,
> you will be able to have some stem cells injected into your buggered up
> pancreas and those magic cells will be regenerated.

Just to be burned out again from insulin resistance? That's a T1
solution, not a T2 one.

Priscilla
--
"You can't welcome someone into a body of Christ and then say only
certain rooms are open." -- dancertm in alt.religion.christian.episcopal