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xntrick writes:

> but after reading some
> of your other posts you seem to have a hatred of greeks for some
> reason......


He is a Turk hiding behind a Western sounding name. There are more here
like that. All completely batty and suffering from this huge inferiority
complex because they are Turks. Well, hear them talking and you'll see
that their inferiority complex is justified! <BG>
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It would be nice to know who you are responding to. This thread has got so
many postings that unless you leave at list a line or two of the posting you
are responding to, it becomes very difficult to find out. So in future,
please leave at least a line or two including the nick of the person you are
responding to.

You were not responding to me, I hope. For I don't really have a hatred of
Greeks even though I react strongly to what some individual Greek posters
say.
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"xntrick" > wrote in message
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> i'll give you the gyros part, but most of what you say isn't based on
> fact.....the greek cuisine has more of a mediterranean flavor while the
> turkish cuisine has a middle eastern flavor...and you won't find pork
> on a turkish menu no matter how hard you look, but after reading some
> of your other posts you seem to have a hatred of greeks for some
> reason......greek people in general are far more social and friendly
> than turks will ever be, bill cosby once said "of all the nationalities
> in europe, the greeks had the best sense of humour and had a zest for
> living that was unmatched"
>



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try some souvlaki (kebab), it's better than gyro guaranteed.

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wrote:
> try some souvlaki (kebab), it's better than gyro guaranteed.


I agree, as a former habitue of Toronto's Danforth. It's what I always
ended up ordering. I like moussaka, but it's such a pain in the ass to
make!

Skylos



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Dr. Dog wrote:
> wrote:
> > try some souvlaki (kebab), it's better than gyro guaranteed.

>
> I agree, as a former habitue of Toronto's Danforth. It's what I

always
> ended up ordering. I like moussaka, but it's such a pain in the ass

to
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Of course it is! It's GREEK!!!


> make!
>
> Skylos


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Mousaka might be a pain in the ass to make for a Greek. For one thing, it is
a dish borrowed from the Turkish cuisine. <G>

If you want to look it up, in Turkish it is spelt Musakka. BTW, though
Musakka is nowadays oven cooked and covered with a layer of white sauce
which is neither Greek nor Turkish but French, there is the original version
of Musakka which is more like a casserole and which is cooked in a saucepan.
Here is a recipe for this delicious Musakka.

Fry some minced lamb or any other lean meat until it changes color. Fry or
rather sauté one medium finely chopped onion until it wilts and becomes
translucent. You can add the meat to the onion or the other way round OR
when the minced lamb is half ready add the finely chopped onion and continue
frying the two together. With this latter method, you might have to add just
a bit of oil if the meat is very lean. Use groundnut oil or a mixture of
groundnut oil and olive oil. Or any other oil such as sunflower or maize
oil.

One important note he -- Add some finely chopped parsley to the fried
meat at the last moment and take off the heat.

Peel the potatoes and chop them into rounds around 2 to 3 mm thick as though
preparing them for sort of thick English crisps or American chips. You can
fry or rather sauté them in a large saucepan until they have turned golden
and beginning to brown. However, a wok or the flatter Turkish "sac"
(pronounced sach -- the c has a cedilla) would be better as you can use less
oil to fry the potatoes. Frying the potatoes in 2 or 3 goes will naturally
require a lot less cooking oil.

Once the potatoes are ready , you put a layer of fried potatoes and a later
of the fried minced meat at the bottom of a suitably sized saucepan and
repeat this until you have used all the ingredients. Top the layers with
some hot stock. Cover the pan and cook over gentle heat for around 20
minutes.

You can of course, use a bit of imagination and substitute some aubergine,
courgettes etc for the potatoes or in addition to the potatoes.

Serve with a Mediterranean salad and maybe some tender chillies. And don't
forget a salt dip for the chillies. Spring onions and maybe a few olives are
another favorite of mine with this dish.

If you want bread on the table, make sure it is fresh and crusty which you
can break with your hands a la peasante.

I know it is too much of a bother and I would never cook this for one
person. But it makes sense when you are cooking for a family. It is at its
best eaten within half an hour after it is done while the potatoes still
have that fried taste.
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"Dr. Dog" > wrote in message
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>
> wrote:
>> try some souvlaki (kebab), it's better than gyro guaranteed.

>
> I agree, as a former habitue of Toronto's Danforth. It's what I always
> ended up ordering. I like moussaka, but it's such a pain in the ass to
> make!
>
> Skylos
>



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> For one thing, it is a dish borrowed from the Turkish cuisine
All the moussaka I saw in Turkey was a miserable mix of oily egplants
and fatty lamb.
No bechamel topping either

> One important note he -- Add some finely chopped parsley to the

fried
>meat at the last moment and take off the heat

Yea, flat leaf parsley is just plentiful in Mongolia!

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For one thing, Turks might have mixed with Mongolians at some stage in
history but they are not Mongolians. Incidentally, if you study the mass
migrations through history you will find out that there were mass migrations
to both what are now Greece and Turkey as well as into Eastern Europe from
the steppes in Asia in olden days. So what does that make you? You are
certainly not the aboriginal peoples of what is now Greece.

Come, I'll offer you a Turkish coffee in a gesture of friendship. Sorry, I
tried to get some Greek coffee but it doesn't exist apparently. But just
think of it as Greek coffee and be happy. And while you wait while I prepare
the Turkish coffee, would you like some Turkish lokum with roast nuts in
them? If you are not happy with Turkish Lokum just add the letter "i" at the
end of it and presto it becomes Greek Lokumi. And BTW, what sort of nuts
would you like me to roast and add to the lokum/i? I've got a very sharp
knife as good as any surgeons use. How about your very own nuts? That will
truly make the lokum/i truly Greek.

Enjoy!
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"karapanomanolokopoulos" > wrote in message
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>> For one thing, it is a dish borrowed from the Turkish cuisine

> All the moussaka I saw in Turkey was a miserable mix of oily egplants
> and fatty lamb.
> No bechamel topping either
>
>> One important note he -- Add some finely chopped parsley to the

> fried
>>meat at the last moment and take off the heat

> Yea, flat leaf parsley is just plentiful in Mongolia!
>



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wrote:

> try some souvlaki (kebab), it's better than gyro guaranteed.


I agree.

Some of the posters in this thread are very funny.

If you go back about 100,000 years, everybody's
ancestor was African.

,

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Avgolemono soup (chicken soup with rice and lots of lemon juice in it)
is very good served cold on a hot summer day.

Melissa

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On 9 Mar 2005 08:45:12 -0800, "A Total Moron's Guide to Cinema"
> wrote:

>i've tried leg of lamb, mousaka, and other stuff. all great but nothing
>beats gyros.


What would the Middle East do without unleven bread?
-Rich
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RichA wrote:

>
> What would the Middle East do without unleven bread?
> -Rich


How is Greece in the Middle East, Rich? Don't mean to be sarcastic but
it does not exactly border with Lebanon.

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RichA wrote:
> On 9 Mar 2005 08:45:12 -0800, "A Total Moron's Guide to Cinema"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>i've tried leg of lamb, mousaka, and other stuff. all great but nothing
>>beats gyros.

>
>
> What would the Middle East do without unleven bread?



You just threw caution to the wind on that one, huh.

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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 03:42:14 GMT, trotsky > wrote:

>RichA wrote:
>> On 9 Mar 2005 08:45:12 -0800, "A Total Moron's Guide to Cinema"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>i've tried leg of lamb, mousaka, and other stuff. all great but nothing
>>>beats gyros.

>>
>>
>> What would the Middle East do without unleven bread?

>
>
>You just threw caution to the wind on that one, huh.


I'll go so far as to say I'm not a fan of Greek food.
I prefer Indian, Chinese or Anglo.
-Rich


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I thought Stalin killed you in 1940.

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His spirit lives on!
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"splicer1x" > wrote in message
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>I thought Stalin killed you in 1940.
>



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Silence GAYson !

Your tedious repetition only serves to expose your LAZINESS , your
IDIOCY , your STUPIDITY , and your sheer INEPTITUDE

Mwahahahahahahahahhar

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"Yavrukurt" >
ups.com...
>
>
> Silence GAYson !
>
> Your tedious repetition only serves to expose your LAZINESS , your
> IDIOCY , your STUPIDITY , and your sheer INEPTITUDE
>
> Mwahahahahahahahahhar
>




tiurks r lying.tiurks r the bigest murderers in ioropean history.tiurks
almost kiled Pope.tiurks r smagling dope in ioropa.
das ist how a tiurk iz speakin.only bad language and savajery.tiurks r
barbarians.thats why tiurks r not in eu.tiurks r kilers.u r Al Qaeda
soldier.tiurks r islamistas y teroristas.no eu 4 u anemal tiurks.tiurks r
ioropa enemys.tiurks always kiling kiling kiling


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yeah, well Phish sux.



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A Total Moron's Guide to Cinema wrote:

> i've tried leg of lamb, mousaka, and other stuff. all great but

nothing
> beats gyros.


I would think that souvlaki is the best.
Have you been to Pantheon?
You will never want to go elsewhere.

Tony



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On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 19:14:02 -0500 (EST), "Tony Brutto"
> wrote:

>A Total Moron's Guide to Cinema wrote:
>
>> i've tried leg of lamb, mousaka, and other stuff. all great but

>nothing
>> beats gyros.

>
>I would think that souvlaki is the best.
>Have you been to Pantheon?
>You will never want to go elsewhere.
>

Geek food is better - here's what my shopping basket contains -

one tub of Ben&Jerry's french toffee vanilla ice cream
one large container of candied corn
one jar of "Fluff" marshmellow goo
three cartons of chocolate milk
4 caramilk bars
a box of blueberry eggos
nutella hazelnut chocolate spread
3 fozen burritos
bag of chocolate covered peanuts
2L bottle of dr. pepper
box of fruit loops
one "Enquirer"
one "Shape" magazine

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Grik food, like much of their culture, was STOLEN from the Ottoman
Turks who RULED them for 500 years

If you like gyros you should try a trip to Turkiye

http://www.gototurkey.co.uk

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Seanie O'Kilfoyle writes:

> Grik food, like much of their culture, was STOLEN from the Ottoman
> Turks who RULED them for 500 years
>
> If you like gyros you should try a trip to Turkiye
>
> http://www.gototurkey.co.uk


Culture stolen from the Ottoman Turks!! LOL Now they clean the Europeans'
toilets! LOL

Try harder, you stinking Turk!
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Ok i was bored to hear the greeks stole this, stole that from turkish
and bla,bla,bla.
We are in these are greece from 3000 before christ until 2005 in that
time many things happened.
In the end of Byzantine Empire 1453 the turkish assaulted and
contantinouple and greece for 400 years until 1821.
In 400 years don't you think that the greek and turkish culture mixed
up and greeks took a lot of things from turkish and they took all of
thing from Greeks? So nobody steal from anybody the cultures mixed up
and greeks take things from turkish and they evolute them and you will
see many similarities between cultures. And don't forget that greece is
in south east europe that means more near in egypt, arabic countries
turkish so the greek culture interacts that kind of cultures. If greece
was next to england of north europe countries would interact with them.
But with the globalization effect would be everything american
hamburger and stupidity.



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OK, OK "billias".

We know that you invented "Mpatates kai Ntomates" (Potatoes and Tomatoes). I
am sure you can vouch personally for the fact that you had roast potatoes in
Athens in 1251 BC. You have even got a digital photo of you sitting at that
restaurant in ancient Athens enjoying your Gyros served with roast potatoes
and a tomato salad.

What would be world do without you? I mean you keep eating your "fasolada"
(beans) and come here to break wind.
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"billias" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Ok i was bored to hear the greeks stole this, stole that from turkish
> and bla,bla,bla.
> We are in these are greece from 3000 before christ until 2005 in that
> time many things happened.
> In the end of Byzantine Empire 1453 the turkish assaulted and
> contantinouple and greece for 400 years until 1821.
> In 400 years don't you think that the greek and turkish culture mixed
> up and greeks took a lot of things from turkish and they took all of
> thing from Greeks? So nobody steal from anybody the cultures mixed up
> and greeks take things from turkish and they evolute them and you will
> see many similarities between cultures. And don't forget that greece is
> in south east europe that means more near in egypt, arabic countries
> turkish so the greek culture interacts that kind of cultures. If greece
> was next to england of north europe countries would interact with them.
> But with the globalization effect would be everything american
> hamburger and stupidity.
>



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You still appear to be mixing your Kurds with your Turks Herr
Romanazian

Perhaps because of your close proximity to Berlin ?

*LMFAOAY*

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"Seanie O'Kilfoyle" >
oups.com...
>
>
> You still appear to be mixing your Kurds with your Turks Herr
> Romanazian
>
> Perhaps because of your close proximity to Berlin ?
>
> *LMFAOAY*
>





u r a tiurk rasista.tiurks r anemales savaj.tiurks r sotosvilupados.tiurks
speak only bad language.tiurks lik this 1 r todos Al Qaeda.no eu 4 u tirks
islamistas y teroristas


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Seanie O'Kilfoyle writes:

> You still appear to be mixing your Kurds with your Turks Herr
> Romanazian
>
> Perhaps because of your close proximity to Berlin ?
>
> *LMFAOAY*


You Turks don't like being called toilet cleaners? LOL They must have clean
toilets in Berlin! Lots of Turks there.

Learn to face the truth about your real talents, Turk! <BG>
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Ok i was bored to hear the greeks stole this, stole that from turkish
and bla,bla,bla.
We are in these are greece from 3000 before christ until 2005 in that
time many things happened.
In the end of Byzantine Empire 1453 the turkish assaulted and
contantinouple and greece for 400 years until 1821.
In 400 years don't you think that the greek and turkish culture mixed
up and greeks took a lot of things from turkish and they took all of
thing from Greeks? So nobody steal from anybody the cultures mixed up
and greeks take things from turkish and they evolute them and you will
see many similarities between cultures. And don't forget that greece is
in south east europe that means more near in egypt, arabic countries
turkish so the greek culture interacts that kind of cultures. If greece
was next to england of north europe countries would interact with them.
But with the globalization effect would be everything american
hamburger and stupidity.



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Ok i was bored to hear the greeks stole this, stole that from turkish
and bla,bla,bla.
We are in these are greece from 3000 before christ until 2005 in that
time many things happened.
In the end of Byzantine Empire 1453 the turkish assaulted and
contantinouple and greece for 400 years until 1821.
In 400 years don't you think that the greek and turkish culture mixed
up and greeks took a lot of things from turkish and they took all of
thing from Greeks? So nobody steal from anybody the cultures mixed up
and greeks take things from turkish and they evolute them and you will
see many similarities between cultures. And don't forget that greece is
in south east europe that means more near in egypt, arabic countries
turkish so the greek culture interacts that kind of cultures. If greece
was next to england of north europe countries would interact with them.
But with the globalization effect would be everything american
hamburger and stupidity.

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See, what did I tell you. You have broken wind three times so far. Go easy
on the "fasolada" beans boy.
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"billias" > wrote in message
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> Ok i was bored to hear the greeks stole this, stole that from turkish
> and bla,bla,bla.
> We are in these are greece from 3000 before christ until 2005 in that
> time many things happened.
> In the end of Byzantine Empire 1453 the turkish assaulted and
> contantinouple and greece for 400 years until 1821.
> In 400 years don't you think that the greek and turkish culture mixed
> up and greeks took a lot of things from turkish and they took all of
> thing from Greeks? So nobody steal from anybody the cultures mixed up
> and greeks take things from turkish and they evolute them and you will
> see many similarities between cultures. And don't forget that greece is
> in south east europe that means more near in egypt, arabic countries
> turkish so the greek culture interacts that kind of cultures. If greece
> was next to england of north europe countries would interact with them.
> But with the globalization effect would be everything american
> hamburger and stupidity.
>



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when I went to Greece all I ate was gyros. You think they are good
here . . . well you havent a good one then becuas they are absolutely
amazing. We were in IOS and we went to this local hole in the whole 2x
a day. We would eat them when we were not even hungry

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What do you eat when you are at home? Obviously bangers and mash or
McDonalds and chips. I'd give the sack to your partner if I were you. She
obviously doesn't know how to cook.

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> wrote in message
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> when I went to Greece all I ate was gyros. You think they are good
> here . . . well you havent a good one then becuas they are absolutely
> amazing. We were in IOS and we went to this local hole in the whole 2x
> a day. We would eat them when we were not even hungry
>



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Now that's interesting. The Turkish would-be smartie boy "choro-fag"
runs to the
defense of the biggest idiot existing on usenet.Choro-fag is not so
smart after all?
Or is it your sexual aberration, that you never manage to hide for too
long, that attracts you when shit like marktrivers in involved?
How does it feel, to be stunned and delayed in development, being
emotionally and sexually handicapped, unable to **** a human? That's
what
it's all about with you, you anal, subnormal talking piece of shit!
choro-fag.
You better get a second boy, retard. Obviously Seanie-boy is not enough
for
you to make you feel at ease with yourself and the world.
choro-nik wrote:
> What do you eat when you are at home? Obviously bangers and mash or
> McDonalds and chips. I'd give the sack to your partner if I were you.

She
> obviously doesn't know how to cook.
>
> --
> choro-nik
> ********
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > when I went to Greece all I ate was gyros. You think they are good
> > here . . . well you havent a good one then becuas they are

absolutely
> > amazing. We were in IOS and we went to this local hole in the

whole 2x
> > a day. We would eat them when we were not even hungry
> >




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You are getting too boring to bother to reply to.
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"Splicer1X" > wrote in message
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> Now that's interesting. The Turkish would-be smartie boy "choro-fag"
> runs to the
> defense of the biggest idiot existing on usenet.Choro-fag is not so
> smart after all?
> Or is it your sexual aberration, that you never manage to hide for too
> long, that attracts you when shit like marktrivers in involved?
> How does it feel, to be stunned and delayed in development, being
> emotionally and sexually handicapped, unable to **** a human? That's
> what
> it's all about with you, you anal, subnormal talking piece of shit!
> choro-fag.
> You better get a second boy, retard. Obviously Seanie-boy is not enough
> for
> you to make you feel at ease with yourself and the world.
> choro-nik wrote:
>> What do you eat when you are at home? Obviously bangers and mash or
>> McDonalds and chips. I'd give the sack to your partner if I were you.

> She
>> obviously doesn't know how to cook.
>>
>> --
>> choro-nik
>> ********
>> > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>> > when I went to Greece all I ate was gyros. You think they are good
>> > here . . . well you havent a good one then becuas they are

> absolutely
>> > amazing. We were in IOS and we went to this local hole in the

> whole 2x
>> > a day. We would eat them when we were not even hungry
>> >

>



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You think you sound smart,cultured and educated choro-nik, that's
obvious. But you inveterately
sound disgusting. You can say what you want: you *always* sound
disgusting, regardless of what you talk about. It's the way you *are*.
You
can't hide your barbarian Turkic-mongol-muslim eat with your hands in a
tent heritage!!!
Get lost tent-maker, you bring nothing but filth to SCG, God the whole
place is inundated with
the nauseating odor of your presence

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choro-nik writes:

> You are getting too boring to bother to reply to.


Then shut up, you filth!
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yES ThEy ArE gREaT!

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Th einai magala, re? Ta arxhdia sou, h o kephalos sou, you bighead?

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