Regular Chunky Jif, Possibly old.

Is it possible to have some on a PB&J sammich, and then not get sick
persay, but get queasy for a few days instead?

Burpy, upset stomach, tired, queasiness, but still functional.

Anybody else experience this?

Sounds more like irritable bowel syndrome. I used to blame those symptoms
on food, too, but found out I had this disorder. It can last for quite a
while.

"Jimmy G" >, if that's their real name, wrote:

Totally unrelated to the subject at hand ... are you the famous cheesecake
guy?

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Jimmy G wrote:
> Sounds more like irritable bowel syndrome. I used to blame those symptoms
> on food, too, but found out I had this disorder. It can last for quite a
> while.
>
>

No, I don't have IBS.

I'm actually starting to feel better today. Last night I took a bunch
of Acid reducers & burped a bunch.

I think I might throw out that Peanut Butter anyway. I just wanted to
see if that might have been the culprit, since it pretty much happened
right after I ate it.

Denise~* wrote:
> Regular Chunky Jif, Possibly old.
>
> Is it possible to have some on a PB&J sammich, and then not get sick
> persay, but get queasy for a few days instead?
>
> Burpy, upset stomach, tired, queasiness, but still functional.
>
> Anybody else experience this?


Peanuts are nortorious for harboring fungi. I suspect either the
peanut butter grew something that you couldn't see, or the lot of
peanuts used to make the peanut butter was infected, but not at a high
enough titer to have been recalled.

-L.

Denise~* wrote:
> Regular Chunky Jif, Possibly old.
>
> Is it possible to have some on a PB&J sammich, and then not get sick
> persay, but get queasy for a few days instead?
>
> Burpy, upset stomach, tired, queasiness, but still functional.
>
> Anybody else experience this?

Peanuts are difficult to digest, they're one of the taboo foods for
those with reflux.

Sheldon

-L. wrote:
> Denise~* wrote:
> > Regular Chunky Jif, Possibly old.
> >
> > Is it possible to have some on a PB&J sammich, and then not get
sick
> > persay, but get queasy for a few days instead?
> >
> > Burpy, upset stomach, tired, queasiness, but still functional.
> >
> > Anybody else experience this?
>
>
> Peanuts are nortorious for harboring fungi.


True, but roasting peanuts destroys fungi and I know of no peanut
butter made from raw peanuts... aside from OP having some digestion
malfunction or other contraindiction, ie. allergy, if the peanut butter
is old it may have gone rancid.... but from the description I'd vote
for reflux.

Sheldon

Denise~* wrote:
>
> I'm actually starting to feel better today. Last night I took a
bunch
> of Acid reducers & burped a bunch.
>
> I think I might throw out that Peanut Butter anyway. I just wanted
to
> see if that might have been the culprit, since it pretty much
happened
> right after I ate it.

How long a time do you mean by "right after"? Digestion problems don't
usually occur for about an hour or two after eating, and microbial
effects usually take about 6-12 hours, or longer. If by "right after"
you mean a few minutes until up to an hour then you might want to make
an appointment with an Allergist... although from your description I
still think reflux.... food allergies are rarely manifested by symptoms
of indigestion.

Sheldon

Sheldon wrote
>
> How long a time do you mean by "right after"? Digestion problems don't
> usually occur for about an hour or two after eating, and microbial
> effects usually take about 6-12 hours, or longer. If by "right after"
> you mean a few minutes until up to an hour then you might want to make
> an appointment with an Allergist... although from your description I
> still think reflux.... food allergies are rarely manifested by symptoms
> of indigestion.
>
> Sheldon
>

Well, it wasn't literally directly after, probably a couple hours after.

I think I'll toss the PB anyway, it's probably old.

Denise~* wrote:
> Sheldon wrote
> >
> > How long a time do you mean by "right after"? Digestion problems
don't
> > usually occur for about an hour or two after eating, and microbial
> > effects usually take about 6-12 hours, or longer. If by "right
after"
> > you mean a few minutes until up to an hour then you might want to
make
> > an appointment with an Allergist... although from your description
I
> > still think reflux.... food allergies are rarely manifested by
symptoms
> > of indigestion.
> >
> > Sheldon
> >
>
> Well, it wasn't literally directly after, probably a couple hours
after.
>
> I think I'll toss the PB anyway, it's probably old.

Even if it's old, if it tastes okay you can sterilize it by using it to
bake peanut butter cookies.

Sheldon

Sheldon wrote:

>
> Even if it's old, if it tastes okay you can sterilize it by using it to
> bake peanut butter cookies.
>
> Sheldon
>

Mmm, Peanut butter cookies, Yum.

"Sheldon" >, if that's their real name, wrote:

>Peanuts are difficult to digest, they're one of the taboo foods for
>those with reflux.

I didn't know that, Sheldon. Thanks for the info!

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Denise~* wrote:
[snip]
> I think I'll toss the PB anyway, it's probably old.

This week (in my locale, anyway) Alton Brown made cashew butter on Good
Eats. He raved about liking it way more than pb. Here's what he did,
from the Good Eats website.

Cashew Butter:
2 tablespoons honey
1/3 cup walnut oil
10 ounces (approximately 2 cups) roasted cashews
1/2 teaspoon salt

Place the honey in a microwave-safe container and heat in the microwave
for 15 seconds. Remove from the microwave and add the oil to the
container. Place the nuts and salt in the bowl of a food processor and
pulse for 5 seconds. Then, while the processor is running, very slowly
drizzle in the honey and oil. Process until an emulsion is formed and
the mixture is smooth; this will take approximately 45 seconds to 1
minute. If the mixture is too thick and doesn't spread easily, add a
little more oil.

In > Denise~* wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
>
>>
>> Even if it's old, if it tastes okay you can sterilize it by using it
>> to bake peanut butter cookies. Sheldon
>
> Mmm, Peanut butter cookies, Yum.


Yes, this gives me a good idea...haven't had peanut butter cookies in
ages...


--
Cheers

Dennis

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Ruddell wrote:
> In > Denise~* wrote:
> > Sheldon wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Even if it's old, if it tastes okay you can sterilize it by using
it
> >> to bake peanut butter cookies. Sheldon
> >
> > Mmm, Peanut butter cookies, Yum.
>
>
> Yes, this gives me a good idea...haven't had peanut butter cookies in

> ages...



OLD-FASHIONED PEANUT BUTTER COOKIES

3 cups all purpose flour
1 teaspoon baking powder
1 teaspoon salt
1 cup (2 sticks) unsalted butter, room temperature
1 cup creamy or chunky peanut butter (do not use old-fashioned style or
freshly ground)
2 teaspoons vanilla extract
1 cup (packed) golden brown sugar
1 cup sugar
2 large eggs

Preheat oven to 350=B0F. Line 2 large baking sheets with parchment
paper. Mix flour, baking powder and salt in medium bowl. Using electric
mixer, beat butter, peanut butter and vanilla in large bowl until well
blended. Beat in both sugars. Scrape down sides of bowl. Stir half of
dry ingredients into mixture. Add eggs 1 at a time, stirring well after
each addition. Mix in remaining dry ingredients.
For each cookie, roll 1 heaping tablespoonful of dough into 1
3/4-inch-diameter ball. Arrange dough balls 2 1/2 inches apart on
prepared baking sheets. Using back of fork, flatten dough balls and
form crosshatch design on tops. Bake cookies until dry on top and
golden brown on bottom, about 14 minutes. Cool cookies on baking sheets
5 minutes. Using metal spatula, transfer cookies to racks and cool
completely. (Can be prepared up to 3 days ahead. Store in airtight
container at room temperature.)

Makes about 4 dozen.
Bon App=E9tit
January 1998

In . com> Sheldon wrote:

> OLD-FASHIONED PEANUT BUTTER COOKIES
>
> 3 cups all purpose flour
> 1 teaspoon baking powder
> 1 teaspoon salt
> 1 cup (2 sticks) unsalted butter, room temperature
> 1 cup creamy or chunky peanut butter (do not use old-fashioned style
> or freshly ground) 2 teaspoons vanilla extract 1 cup (packed) golden
> brown sugar 1 cup sugar 2 large eggs
>
> Preheat oven to 350=B0F. Line 2 large baking sheets with parchment
> paper. Mix flour, baking powder and salt in medium bowl. Using
> electric mixer, beat butter, peanut butter and vanilla in large bowl
> until well blended. Beat in both sugars. Scrape down sides of bowl.
> Stir half of dry ingredients into mixture. Add eggs 1 at a time,
> stirring well after each addition. Mix in remaining dry ingredients.
> For each cookie, roll 1 heaping tablespoonful of dough into 1 3/4-inch-
> diameter ball. Arrange dough balls 2 1/2 inches apart on prepared
> baking sheets. Using back of fork, flatten dough balls and form
> crosshatch design on tops. Bake cookies until dry on top and golden
> brown on bottom, about 14 minutes. Cool cookies on baking sheets 5
> minutes. Using metal spatula, transfer cookies to racks and cool
> completely. (Can be prepared up to 3 days ahead. Store in airtight
> container at room temperature.)
>
> Makes about 4 dozen.
> Bon App=E9tit
> January 1998


Thanks Sheldon. Will try it soon and report back...


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Cheers

Dennis

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sounds like the peanut butter may have been rancid.




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and the player opposite you is time.
If you hesitate before moving,
or neglect to move promptly,
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Sheldon wrote:
> -L. wrote:
> > Denise~* wrote:
> > > Regular Chunky Jif, Possibly old.
> > >
> > > Is it possible to have some on a PB&J sammich, and then not get
> sick
> > > persay, but get queasy for a few days instead?
> > >
> > > Burpy, upset stomach, tired, queasiness, but still functional.
> > >
> > > Anybody else experience this?
> >
> >
> > Peanuts are nortorious for harboring fungi.
>
>
> True, but roasting peanuts destroys fungi and I know of no peanut
> butter made from raw peanuts... aside from OP having some digestion
> malfunction or other contraindiction, ie. allergy, if the peanut
butter
> is old it may have gone rancid.... but from the description I'd vote
> for reflux.
>
> Sheldon

Roasting won't necessarily kill fungal spores or inactivate mycotoxins
(thweir secondary metabolites), though.

I suspect there was something growing in the PB, post-opening.

-L.