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I want to make some homemade Pastrami/Smoked Meat and need some Sodium
Nitrate to add to my cure. Does anyone know where in Canada (or better yet Toronto) where I might be able to buy this ingredient. I being looking around for Morton Tenderquick but have had no luck finding it locally in toronto. Thanks Daniel. |
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On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:58:04 -0500, Daniel > wrote:
>I want to make some homemade Pastrami/Smoked Meat and need some Sodium >Nitrate to add to my cure. > >Does anyone know where in Canada (or better yet Toronto) where I might >be able to buy this ingredient. > >I being looking around for Morton Tenderquick but have had no luck >finding it locally in toronto. > >Thanks >Daniel. Can't help you with a Canadian source but do a search on Con Yeager Soice. I have dealt with them a lot. |
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Try asking for "saltpeter", the same thing as sodium nitrate. Ask your
pharmacist. Main Entry: salt=B7pe=B7ter Pronunciation: 'solt-'pE-t&r Function: noun Etymology: Middle English salt petre, alteration of salpetre, from Middle French, from Medieval Latin sal petrae, literally, salt of the rock 1 : POTASSIUM NITRATE 2 : SODIUM NITRATE |
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Daniel > wrote:
>I want to make some homemade Pastrami/Smoked Meat and need some Sodium >Nitrate to add to my cure. > >Does anyone know where in Canada (or better yet Toronto) where I might >be able to buy this ingredient. I have some "prague powder number ???" can't remember the number, but it's the one for smoked/dried meat (jerkey, etc). IIRC, the Morton is just that plus sugar. I ordered it online, I can look around for the site if you want me to. It was pretty cheap. It's pink though, which is a little weird. |
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Daniel wrote:
> I want to make some homemade Pastrami/Smoked Meat and need some Sodium > Nitrate to add to my cure. > > Does anyone know where in Canada (or better yet Toronto) where I might > be able to buy this ingredient. > > I being looking around for Morton Tenderquick but have had no luck > finding it locally in toronto. > > Thanks > Daniel. Try searching for "prague powder". There's two different formulations, either will work for this. Prague powder #1 contains 93.75% salt, 6.25% sodium nitrite, and a trace of red dye to make it pink (so you don't mistake it for salt.) #2 also contains a very small about of sodium nitrate. It's also called "Instacure." You use one ounce of #1 or #2 cure per 25 pounds of meat, along with your salt and spices and stuff. I've cured meats with saltpeter before. Sodium nitrite works *much* better. Bob |
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AlleyGator wrote:
> Daniel > wrote: > > >>I want to make some homemade Pastrami/Smoked Meat and need some Sodium >>Nitrate to add to my cure. >> >>Does anyone know where in Canada (or better yet Toronto) where I might >>be able to buy this ingredient. > > I have some "prague powder number ???" can't remember the number, but > it's the one for smoked/dried meat (jerkey, etc). IIRC, the Morton is > just that plus sugar. I ordered it online, I can look around for the > site if you want me to. It was pretty cheap. It's pink though, which > is a little weird. You probably have the #2. Morton Tenderquick is about the same thing as #2 cure diluted with salt. You use Tenderquick measure-for-measure like salt in the recipe and it takes care of the nitrite and nitrate. Bob |
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(AlleyGator) wrote:
>Daniel > wrote: > >>I want to make some homemade Pastrami/Smoked Meat and need some Sodium >>Nitrate to add to my cure. >> >>Does anyone know where in Canada (or better yet Toronto) where I might >>be able to buy this ingredient. >I have some "prague powder number ???" can't remember the number, but >it's the one for smoked/dried meat (jerkey, etc). IIRC, the Morton is >just that plus sugar. I ordered it online, I can look around for the >site if you want me to. It was pretty cheap. It's pink though, which >is a little weird. If its not too much trouble, please let me know the site? Thanks |
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zxcvbob > wrote:
>Try searching for "prague powder". There's two different formulations, >either will work for this. Prague powder #1 contains 93.75% salt, 6.25% >sodium nitrite, and a trace of red dye to make it pink (so you don't >mistake it for salt.) #2 also contains a very small about of sodium >nitrate. It's also called "Instacure." You use one ounce of #1 or #2 >cure per 25 pounds of meat, along with your salt and spices and stuff. > >I've cured meats with saltpeter before. Sodium nitrite works *much* better. > >Bob Hey do you have any idea what the difference between the two is? I have the pink, which I guess is #1 - I should go look. One is for drying/dehydrating and I though smoking. I know they were very specific that the two may not be interchangeable. I wish I could remember. |
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Daniel > wrote:
>If its not too much trouble, please let me know the site? >Thanks I was already looking and found it. www.sausagemaker.com. On the main page there is insta-cure #1 and #2. #1 is for smoked and cooked sausage. #2 is for dry-cured, like jerkey. I guess you need #1. 1 pound is $8.99 and it should last you the rest of your life, unless you're 18 or own a sausage factory. |
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AlleyGator wrote:
> zxcvbob > wrote: > >>Try searching for "prague powder". There's two different formulations, >>either will work for this. Prague powder #1 contains 93.75% salt, 6.25% >>sodium nitrite, and a trace of red dye to make it pink (so you don't >>mistake it for salt.) #2 also contains a very small about of sodium >>nitrate. It's also called "Instacure." You use one ounce of #1 or #2 >>cure per 25 pounds of meat, along with your salt and spices and stuff. >> >>I've cured meats with saltpeter before. Sodium nitrite works *much* better. >> >>Bob > > Hey do you have any idea what the difference between the two is? I > have the pink, which I guess is #1 - I should go look. One is for > drying/dehydrating and I though smoking. I know they were very > specific that the two may not be interchangeable. I wish I could > remember. They're both pink. #2 has a little nitrate in it. #1 is straight nitrite. You can use either one for most things. Use #2 for dried sausage and ham that is gonna be aged for a long time. Bob |
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Daniel > wrote:
Whoa, I lied. It's not on the main page. Here's the link: http://www.sausagemaker.com/index.as...TS&Category=50 |
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(AlleyGator) wrote:
>Daniel > wrote: >Whoa, I lied. It's not on the main page. Here's the link: >http://www.sausagemaker.com/index.as...TS&Category=50 Thank you, shipping cost to Canada is not bad either... |
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zxcvbob > wrote:
>Try searching for "prague powder". There's two different formulations, >either will work for this. Prague powder #1 contains 93.75% salt, 6.25% >sodium nitrite, and a trace of red dye to make it pink (so you don't >mistake it for salt.) #2 also contains a very small about of sodium >nitrate. It's also called "Instacure." You use one ounce of #1 or #2 >cure per 25 pounds of meat, along with your salt and spices and stuff. > >I've cured meats with saltpeter before. Sodium nitrite works *much* better. > >Bob Thanks for the info. Now for recipes that call for TenderQuick what would the Prague #1 equivalent be? I've also come across recipes that call for straight Sodium Nitrate, can I use Prague as a substitute? thx Daniel. |
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Daniel wrote:
> zxcvbob > wrote: > >>Try searching for "prague powder". There's two different formulations, >>either will work for this. Prague powder #1 contains 93.75% salt, 6.25% >>sodium nitrite, and a trace of red dye to make it pink (so you don't >>mistake it for salt.) #2 also contains a very small about of sodium >>nitrate. It's also called "Instacure." You use one ounce of #1 or #2 >>cure per 25 pounds of meat, along with your salt and spices and stuff. >> >>I've cured meats with saltpeter before. Sodium nitrite works *much* better. >> >>Bob > > > Thanks for the info. > Now for recipes that call for TenderQuick what would the Prague #1 > equivalent be? Use 1 ounce of prague #1 per 25 pounds of meat. Add salt to the prague powder to total the amount of tenderquick in the recipe. > > I've also come across recipes that call for straight Sodium Nitrate, > can I use Prague as a substitute? > Ignore the amount of saltpeter in the recipe. Use the prague powder as above. (at least that's what I would do.) I bought my instacure at www.butcherpacker.com about a year ago. I haven't opened the package yet because I haven't quite used up all my Tenderquick yet. Bob |
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Daniel > wrote in
: > I want to make some homemade Pastrami/Smoked Meat and need some Sodium > Nitrate to add to my cure. > > Does anyone know where in Canada (or better yet Toronto) where I might > be able to buy this ingredient. > > I being looking around for Morton Tenderquick but have had no luck > finding it locally in toronto. > > Thanks > Daniel. > look in the aisle the salt is in in any Safeway. -- No Bread Crumbs were hurt in the making of this Meal. Type 2 Diabetic 1AC 5.6mmol or 101mg/dl Continuing to be Manitoban |
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Daniel wrote:
> I want to make some homemade Pastrami/Smoked Meat and need some Sodium > Nitrate to add to my cure. > > Does anyone know where in Canada (or better yet Toronto) where I might > be able to buy this ingredient. > > I being looking around for Morton Tenderquick but have had no luck > finding it locally in toronto. > > Thanks > Daniel. We couldn't find it in Florida, either. We had to have someone send us some from Georgia, I believe it was. Stuff works, but it's rather salty. kili |
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