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Jeff Bienstadt
 
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Curly Sue wrote:

> Ed passed away yesterday. I am going to miss him so much.
>


Good-bye Moosie.

Although I can't bring myself to boil ribs in your honor, I'll raise a
glass.

You'll be missed.

---jkb

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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:51:27 GMT, "Dimitri" >
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>"Curly Sue" > wrote in message
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><snip>
>
>> He had open heart surgery a couple of weeks ago and never really
>> recovered.

>
><snip>
>
>> Sue(tm)
>> Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

>
>Not as uncommon as one would be led to believe.


Yes, that is what happened with my mother. She had open heart surgery
and she never really recovered either. A week later, she died.

This grieves me. Moosemeat was an RFC institution.

Christine
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"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:51:27 GMT, "Dimitri" >
> wrote:


>>"Curly Sue" > wrote in message
...


>>> He had open heart surgery a couple of weeks ago and never really
>>> recovered.


>>Not as uncommon as one would be led to believe.

>
> Yes, that is what happened with my mother. She had open heart surgery
> and she never really recovered either. A week later, she died.


Anesthesia (sp) in older people is a BAD THING. Rapid decline tends
to follow.

nancy





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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
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> "Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:51:27 GMT, "Dimitri" >
>> wrote:

>
>>>"Curly Sue" > wrote in message
...

>
>>>> He had open heart surgery a couple of weeks ago and never really
>>>> recovered.

>
>>>Not as uncommon as one would be led to believe.

>>
>> Yes, that is what happened with my mother. She had open heart surgery
>> and she never really recovered either. A week later, she died.

>
> Anesthesia (sp) in older people is a BAD THING. Rapid decline tends
> to follow.
>
> nancy


It was my FIL he hung on for 8 weeks of pure misery. Eventually his kidneys
failed from all the plaque that they dislodge he eventually passed on from
Kidney failure - His choice to stop the dialyses - he came to made his peace
and was gone 36 hours later surrounded by family. The 300 to 400K to the
medical profession really irked me.

Dimitri




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What a relief! I've been pinned to my side of I-5, clutching my burp gun
for years, now.
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"Dimitri" > wrote

>> Anesthesia (sp) in older people is a BAD THING. Rapid decline tends
>> to follow.
>>
>> nancy

>
> It was my FIL he hung on for 8 weeks of pure misery. Eventually his
> kidneys failed from all the plaque that they dislodge he eventually
> passed on from Kidney failure - His choice to stop the dialyses - he came
> to made his peace and was gone 36 hours later surrounded by family. The
> 300 to 400K to the medical profession really irked me.


I'm really sorry about that, I saw the same thing with my inlaws. They had
terrific insurance, so any time the hospital got ahold of them, we'd have to
pry them out of the place. I can't imagine how much they would have owed.

Sorry about your fil. I'm happy he's at peace.

nancy


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Oh gee, that makes me so sad. I know I dont post here very often but I
read regularly and for years when Ive had ribs or read recipes about
them ive thought of him. Well, Im sure he's aware of how highly he was
thought of, not just here but in his personal life. Bless his heart.
Maybe he'll help get the buffet ready for the rest of us when we get
there.

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BOB wrote:
> "Curly Sue" > wrote in message
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>
>>Ed passed away yesterday. I am going to miss him so much.
>>

I'm very sorry to hear that.


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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:57:06 -0800, kalanamak >
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>What a relief! I've been pinned to my side of I-5, clutching my burp gun
>for years, now.


What does that mean? I'm lost...

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!
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"Jeff Bienstadt" > wrote in message

> Curly Sue wrote:
>
>> Ed passed away yesterday. I am going to miss him so much.
>>

>
> Good-bye Moosie.
>
> Although I can't bring myself to boil ribs in your honor, I'll raise
> a
> glass.


Come on. Just two ribs. This Sunday, I'm going to BBQ 6 racks of
ribs, but for Moosie, I'll trim off 2 ribs from the largest rack and
boil them. I just might post pictures on alt.binaries.food if I
remember to take some.

>
> You'll be missed.
>

Yes!

BOB


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Curly Sue wrote:

> What does that mean? I'm lost...


Moosie and I had a "pretend feud", and one of the ruses was that we'd
strafe each other if we crossed to the other's side of I-5. I live 7
miles from his house, and even met St Mavis there, once, and he'd been
to my house, too.
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"Curly Sue" > wrote in message
...
> Ed passed away yesterday. I am going to miss him so much.
>
> Sue(tm)
> Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!


Oh Sue, I am truly sorry to hear this. Ed and I weren't exactly friends, but
he was an important part of r.f.c. and close to many folks here. I am
saddened and send my condolences to his family and his r.f.c. friends.

Charlie


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Dimitri wrote:

> "Curly Sue" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>He had open heart surgery a couple of weeks ago and never really
>>recovered.

>
> Not as uncommon as one would be led to believe.
>
> Unless you are really prepared for it, seeing someone after open heart
> surgery ain't like it is in the movies. Your first view of the person is
> devastating.


Looking out from inside ain't exactly a thrill either.

Pastorio



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kalanamak wrote:

> Curly Sue wrote:
>
>> What does that mean? I'm lost...

>
>
> Moosie and I had a "pretend feud", and one of the ruses was that we'd
> strafe each other if we crossed to the other's side of I-5. I live 7
> miles from his house, and even met St Mavis there, once, and he'd been
> to my house, too.
> blacksalt


I always enjoyed reading his comments about St
Mavis. I always got the impression she had her
hands full with him (in a nice way!)
Goomba

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Goomba38 wrote:

> I always enjoyed reading his comments about St Mavis. I always got the
> impression she had her hands full with him (in a nice way!)
> Goomba


Remember his tale about driving Mavis to Dairy Queen for a Peanut Buster
Parfait? He made me laugh, I will miss him.

Someone mentioned his limericks, I will miss those too.

Becca

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"kalanamak" > wrote in message
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> Curly Sue wrote:
>
>> What does that mean? I'm lost...

>
> Moosie and I had a "pretend feud", and one of the ruses was that we'd
> strafe each other if we crossed to the other's side of I-5. I live 7 miles
> from his house, and even met St Mavis there, once, and he'd been to my
> house, too.
> blacksalt


Did I see a picture of you and moosemeat at a cookin at Raleana's
house?

nancy


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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
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<snip>
> I'm really sorry about that, I saw the same thing with my inlaws. They
> had
> terrific insurance, so any time the hospital got ahold of them, we'd have
> to
> pry them out of the place. I can't imagine how much they would have owed.
>
> Sorry about your fil. I'm happy he's at peace.


Yep

> nancy


It's staggering how much they owed and to a ton of doctors most of whom we
never saw. It seems like every day a new doctor with a different specialty
"looked in on him" or read the chart or was on call on the 7th green and
sent a bill for several hundred dollars. It was staggering no wonder
Medicare is in trouble (raising rates). I don't want to get started but the
medical system here is broken.

Dimitri


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"Curly Sue" > wrote in message
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> Ed passed away yesterday. I am going to miss him so much.
>
>


: ( RIP

From a long time lurker of RFC

Wendy




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While I have been unpacking my kitchen (just moved from Boston to MN),
I have been reminiscing about conversations in rec.food.cooking when I
was a frequent poster (mid nineties up till 2000 or so, I guess). Just
yesterday, I found a special place to store the enormous lead-filled
meat mallet that Moosie made for me in his woodshop after hearing me
complain about the lightweight pounders in the supermarket. He also
sent two salad forks with roosters on them, along with a note reminding
me to study hard and that he knew I was a "good girl." I loved those
forks so much, I was afraid to use them. I think I've only set them on
the table once or twice in ten years, but I do rub mineral oil on them
to keep the wood supple.

Anyway, I remember the chicken leg story, and also his proclamation on
grape jelly: "I learned that it is best not to try every thing one
reads about here like grape jelly in meatballs." I am deeply saddened
to hear about his passing. I hate to ask, but is St. Mavis... still
around? Sue (or anyone), is there an address or something that I could
send a card?

June

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"Curly Sue" > wrote in message
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> Ed passed away yesterday. I am going to miss him so much.
>
> Sue(tm)
> Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!


My condolenses to the family


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Charles Gifford wrote:
> "Curly Sue" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>Ed passed away yesterday. I am going to miss him so much.
>
>Sue(tm)



That's sad. He hadn't posted much lately
but he always made me laugh.

My sympathy to his family and friends.

gloria p


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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> Curly Sue wrote:
>> Ed passed away yesterday. I am going to miss him so much.
>>
>> Sue(tm)
>> Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

>
> Oh man! I knew he'd been missing for a long while but had no idea it was
> this bad. Please give my condolences to his family and friends.
>
> Jill
>
>====================


Hug, kiss; he will be missed.

Cyndi


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"BOB" > wrote in message
. ..
> "Jeff Bienstadt" > wrote in message
>
> > Curly Sue wrote:
> >
> >> Ed passed away yesterday. I am going to miss him so much.
> >>

> >
> > Good-bye Moosie.
> >
> > Although I can't bring myself to boil ribs in your honor, I'll raise
> > a
> > glass.

>
> Come on. Just two ribs. This Sunday, I'm going to BBQ 6 racks of
> ribs, but for Moosie, I'll trim off 2 ribs from the largest rack and
> boil them. I just might post pictures on alt.binaries.food if I
> remember to take some.
>
> >
> > You'll be missed.
> >

> Yes!
>
> BOB
>
>

I've been lying low due to computer problems....damn trojan horses......this
is a complete shock.....I second the request for where to send condolences.

All I can think of when you mentioned the bbq is Cuchlain waiting for him
and showing him how they do ribs 'up here'.
-Ginny




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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:22:31 -0500, "Nancy Young"
> connected the dots and wrote:

~
~"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
.. .
~> On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:51:27 GMT, "Dimitri" >
~> wrote:
~
~>>"Curly Sue" > wrote in message
...
~
~>>> He had open heart surgery a couple of weeks ago and never really
~>>> recovered.
~
~>>Not as uncommon as one would be led to believe.
~>
~> Yes, that is what happened with my mother. She had open heart
surgery
~> and she never really recovered either. A week later, she died.
~
~Anesthesia (sp) in older people is a BAD THING. Rapid decline tends
~to follow.
~
~nancy

It helps when the doctors do all the testing first before digging into
one. My Mom, in her 90's, had hip surgery last year. Took her 3
months to get home, and the anesthesia does cause some short-term
memory loss (she thought she still lived in the house where she grew
up!), but she eventually was fine.

I'm glad afterwards that I had gotten her to write down a lot of her
standard recipes. She's forgotten some of them, and a few I'm finding
there are still a few questions about things that don't come out the
way her's did.

She's coming home this week after another little "vaction" fine-tuning
her pill collection.

maxine in ri
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"maxine in ri" > ha scritto nel messaggio
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> On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:22:31 -0500, "Nancy Young"
> > connected the dots and wrote:
>
> ~
> ~"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
> .. .
> ~> On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:51:27 GMT, "Dimitri" >
> ~> wrote:
> ~
> ~>>"Curly Sue" > wrote in message
> ...
> ~
> ~>>> He had open heart surgery a couple of weeks ago and never really
> ~>>> recovered.
> ~
> ~>>Not as uncommon as one would be led to believe.
> ~>
> ~> Yes, that is what happened with my mother. She had open heart
> surgery
> ~> and she never really recovered either. A week later, she died.
> ~
> ~Anesthesia (sp) in older people is a BAD THING. Rapid decline tends
> ~to follow.
> ~
> ~nancy
>

Depends upon what the alternative is. Some procedures are more elective than
others, and some really are not.

Kyle


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"maxine in ri" > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:22:31 -0500, "Nancy Young"
> > connected the dots and wrote:


> ~Anesthesia (sp) in older people is a BAD THING. Rapid decline tends
> ~to follow.
> ~
> ~nancy
>
> Took her 3
> months to get home, and the anesthesia does cause some short-term
> memory loss (she thought she still lived in the house where she grew
> up!), but she eventually was fine.


That's very good to hear. My fil went from ... not great, but he
could still talk to a confused guy who continually said Yeah yeah
yeah ... this for a pacemaker. Great, now his heart will keep him
alive as long as possible. It was mercy when he passed away
last year.

> I'm glad afterwards that I had gotten her to write down a lot of her
> standard recipes. She's forgotten some of them, and a few I'm finding
> there are still a few questions about things that don't come out the
> way her's did.
>
> She's coming home this week after another little "vaction" fine-tuning
> her pill collection.


Getting old is not for sissies.

nancy


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Bubbabob wrote:
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> The anesthetic that causes the worst problem in old people is Versed
> (Midazolam HCl). It often results in permanent senility or dementia.


Often? If that were so, why would it be permitted? Are there
citations for this, or is it just anecdotal? -aem



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"aem" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Bubbabob wrote:
>>
>> The anesthetic that causes the worst problem in old people is Versed
>> (Midazolam HCl). It often results in permanent senility or dementia.

>
> Often? If that were so, why would it be permitted? Are there
> citations for this, or is it just anecdotal? -aem


I seriously cannot speak for a specific anesthetic. I do know
a) what I saw first hand and b) even a recent study showing
people over 69 show a bad reaction to anasthesia.

nancy


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Nancy Young wrote:
> "aem" > wrote in message
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> >
> > Bubbabob wrote:
> >>
> >> The anesthetic that causes the worst problem in old people is

Versed
> >> (Midazolam HCl). It often results in permanent senility or

dementia.
> >
> > Often? If that were so, why would it be permitted? Are there
> > citations for this, or is it just anecdotal? -aem

>
> I seriously cannot speak for a specific anesthetic. I do know
> a) what I saw first hand and b) even a recent study showing
> people over 69 show a bad reaction to anasthesia.
>

I don't doubt for a minute that older people react worse to strong
drugs. That's why I'm interested when a particular one is singled out.
So I can avoid it, if it's warranted. -aem

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In article >,
Bubbabob > wrote:
>The anesthetic that causes the worst problem in old people is Versed
>(Midazolam HCl). It often results in permanent senility or dementia.
>Surgeons love it and use it for damned near every operation because it will
>make you completely forget that you woke up screaming in agony in the
>middle of your surgery. Tends to keep the malpractice suits down.


I don't know about any bad side effects (maybe I forgot) but
they gave me this stuff when I had my kidney and associated
tumor removed.

It is a very effective memory-wiper.

It was the weirdest thing. I was waiting in pre-op for them to
take me to surgery, and then *blink*, just like that, the lights
changed, I was in a different room (post-op) with various tubes
attached and minus a kidney. No memories at all of being
wheeled down the hall, talking to my wife, etc.

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"Nancy Young" wrote in message
>
> I seriously cannot speak for a specific anesthetic. I do know
> a) what I saw first hand and b) even a recent study showing
> people over 69 show a bad reaction to anasthesia.
>
> nancy


The big problem is - if you're elderly and need surgery there's no
alternative to using an anesthetic, is there. Frightening. I suppose I
fall into that category and all I know is that after having surgery last
year I have strange memory problems. I think the medical profession knows
this happens.

Dora




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"Mike Van Pelt" > wrote in message
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> In article >,
> Bubbabob > wrote:
> >The anesthetic that causes the worst problem in old people is Versed
> >(Midazolam HCl). It often results in permanent senility or dementia.
> >Surgeons love it and use it for damned near every operation because it

will
> >make you completely forget that you woke up screaming in agony in the
> >middle of your surgery. Tends to keep the malpractice suits down.

>
> I don't know about any bad side effects (maybe I forgot) but
> they gave me this stuff when I had my kidney and associated
> tumor removed.
>
> It is a very effective memory-wiper.
>
> It was the weirdest thing. I was waiting in pre-op for them to
> take me to surgery, and then *blink*, just like that, the lights
> changed, I was in a different room (post-op) with various tubes
> attached and minus a kidney. No memories at all of being
> wheeled down the hall, talking to my wife, etc.
>


I love Versed! I've had it three times now. One nice thing about it is that
you do not have to be completely unconscious --- you can be awake, but just
not care what they are doing to you. You can listen to the surgeons and
nurses for the "Oops!" word. That makes for a very quick recovery. With-in a
half hour after the surgeries, I was able to walk to the car and go home. I
had a spinal block once and had to wait almost 2 hours until I could walk to
the car and go home. Spinal blocks are much more frightening. BTW, I don't
do hospital stays. Don't like 'em.

Charlie


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Charles Gifford wrote:

> I love Versed! I've had it three times now. One nice thing about it
> is that you do not have to be completely unconscious --- you can be
> awake, but just not care what they are doing to you.


A few years ago I had medical tests (and surgery) in another country and
they used Versed. Afterwards, I walked up the sidewalk and I had lunch
in a restaurant. I ordered in Portuguese and I enjoyed whatever it was
they brought me. Later, I do not remember how I got to the restaurant,
but I was OK other than that.

Becca
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Since my computer died, I haven't been watching RFC much and the sad
news. Got an email from his son today informing me about his death,
which sent me looking for this thread.

Moosemeat was a good hearted, funny and mischevious person who loved to
stir the pot in rfc. He and his antics will be missed, that's for
sure!

sf

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> Curly Sue wrote:
> > Ed passed away yesterday. I am going to miss him so much.
> >
> > Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

>
>
> 'Twas a sad day, and now I know why. Goodbye Moosemeat.
>
>


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Steve Kramer wrote:
> Six years, six months, three weeks, one day, 10 hours, 49 minutes and

45
> seconds. 71953 cigarettes not smoked, saving $19,787.22. Time used

for a
> better purpose: 35 weeks, 4 days, 20 hours, 5 minutes.
>

Has it really been 6 years? I remember when you started the count!
Glad to see you're sticking to it, buddy. Soon, you will have saved
enough on those cigarettes to buy your wife a verrrry nice trinket.

LOL
sf
always thinking these things
<except I buy them for myself>

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How about posting that recipe in memory of Moosie?

I'm posting via google until my new computer arrives and am not reading
rfc like I usually do, so I would appreciate it if you emailed it
directly to me.

TIA
sf
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>
> I emailed the guy a while back after finding the fantastic flank

steak
> recipe he posted years ago (we have had it once a week since), but
> never heard back. Guess I know why now..


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