Go to the Iron Bound section in Newark, Jersey. Most of the
Portugese/Spanish restaurants offer Rodizio, the all you can eat BBQ.
Even if you don't try the AYCE BBQ, the paella is far better than
anywhere else you get, certainly far better than Spain or in the UK.

All you can eat restaurants are popular in Japan. I've seen
all-you-can-eat sushi, shabu-shabu, sukiyaki, and yakiniku. These
restaurants are a great bargain for the average American, since
Japanese tend to have small appetites and the prices reflect this.

"You can certainly get poor food in the West End. The down market
food places are still not good enough, but in the West End why
are all the tourists buying it? Go to the restaurant area where
people like me eat (100 metres away) around Charlotte Street and
take some photos there!"

Too many tourists buy into the stereotype of British food being
terrible, and assume there isn't anything beyond pub food, tourist
traps, and downmarket Chinese and Indian. Many people who carefully
plan where they will eat each meal in Paris or Hong Kong are willing to
just go anywhere in London. I think London is one of the better
European cities for restaurants if you have at least a moderate budget
and really know where to go...London is the most international city in
Europe and the restaurants reflect that, and there are also a lot of
options in the way of fusion and contemporary cuisine.

On 4 Apr 2005 20:18:13 -0700, wrote:

>"You can certainly get poor food in the West End. The down market
>food places are still not good enough, but in the West End why
>are all the tourists buying it? Go to the restaurant area where
>people like me eat (100 metres away) around Charlotte Street and
>take some photos there!"
>
>Too many tourists buy into the stereotype of British food being
>terrible, and assume there isn't anything beyond pub food, tourist
>traps, and downmarket Chinese and Indian. Many people who carefully
>plan where they will eat each meal in Paris or Hong Kong are willing to
>just go anywhere in London.

Huh??? That is a bizarre statement!

>I think London is one of the better
>European cities for restaurants if you have at least a moderate budget
>and really know where to go...London is the most international city in
>Europe and the restaurants reflect that, and there are also a lot of
>options in the way of fusion and contemporary cuisine.

Doesn't alter the fact that the produce they use is usually shite. You
can prepare food as carefully as you like, but cheap ingredients will
always shine through in the end result, and few restaurants are
prepared to go to the effort of finding decent produce. It might exist
in London, but is just too hard to come across.
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Following up to Donna Evleth

>> http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/borough.htm"
>
>That looks like a lot of our markets here. Like our local favorite, the
>Marché Saint Germain.

we just need more of them, like the number there are in Spain.
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Following up to Icono Clast

>No, it doesn't. Improper eating leads to obese people. I frequent
>buffets and eat enormous quantities.

for most people eating enormous quantities will lead to obesity,
its simple, calories in v calories out. What is "improper
eating"?
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Following up to Edmund Lewis

>> >Chips I suppose still keep the potato dominant to some extent. But I
>> >agree it's rare to have them as the only carb (chip butties, lasagne
>> >and chips anyone?).
>>
>> Did you type what you meant?
>
>What do you think I meant? I'm confused.

I'll set out what I think for clarity!
In UK potato is dominant carbohydrate and will normally be the
only one, if another carb is used (say rice) the potato
disappears. I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.

Some people might have chips with lasagne, but thats an
aberation. Appreciation of food is fairly new to the UK and like
the US, food has changed drastically over the last 30 years. It
hasnt reached the bottom of the pile yet, hence Jamie Oliver and
his school dinners campaign.
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Following up to yaofeng

> the paella is far better than
>anywhere else you get, certainly far better than Spain

Really? Could you describe it more?
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Following up to Deep Foiled Malls

>>Fatness isn't a particularly UK feature :-)
>
>That photo was a bit cruel. I don't think he was British anyway, as he
>didnt tell me to bugger off.

A Scot would have laid you out, just swearing at tourists with
cameras is for wussies.

>We went to the Trafalgar, and it was reasonable. Not photoworthy, but
>not too bad. I had the fish (not cod, but something else), and it was
>drowned in some mysterious (but tasty) sauce with green flecs in it,

So whats wrong with that? Are you saying they dont do sauces in
France?

>and it had not been filleted properly. The chips on the side were
>ridiculously big and undercooked for my liking.

Big chips are in fashion at the moment and it reduces the fat to
food ratio.

>The beer was excellent though.

Glad youre one of the few foreigners able to apppreciate good
beer.
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Following up to

>and assume there isn't anything beyond pub food

and of course quite a few pubs are taking the food upmarket,
although thats not so much a London thing where pubs are not hit
by drink/drive issues.
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Following up to Deep Foiled Malls

>Doesn't alter the fact that the produce they use is usually shite.

That's rubbish. There is nothing wrong with British produce,
enough gets exported to France and Spain, its preparation where
it might fall down.
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The Reids > wrote:

> Following up to yaofeng
>
> > the paella is far better than
> >anywhere else you get, certainly far better than Spain
>
> Really? Could you describe it more?

There is a Spanish restaurant in Cambridge MA (run by a Cuban!) that
served a better paella than I've ever had in Spain. I don't think that
it's on the menu anymore- he said it was too much hassle to make! (My
partner was a waiter at the restaurant a long long time ago.) I've just
never had much luck with paella in Spain. Even in restaurants that
otherwise served very good food IMO, the Paella was disappointing. I've
preferred things like arroz negro when I've had it.

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The Reids > writes:

> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although i'm sure poor
> people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.

I used to, as a student ("poor person"). They're actually very nice!

Des

wrote:
> I think London is one of the better European cities for
> restaurants if you have at least a moderate budget and really know
> where to go...

It is extremely difficult for tourists to "really know where to go".

One night in Italy we decided it was time to eat and entered the
corner restaurant to be given the last two available seats at a table
in company with a couple of Italians and French. They told us it was
the best restaurant in town (I think it was Firenze).

We certainly did have a good meal, the cost was modest and, on
departure, there was a mob outside seeking to gain entry.

What's "a moderate budget"?
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:15:37 +0100, The Reids wrote:

> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.

They're brilliant. Especially when the butter runs down your wrist as you
eat it. On a par, if not better than sausage, bacon and fried-egg butties.
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There is only one word to describe the paella in Spain, atrocious.
This is after having paella's in the iron Bound section of Newrak, New
Jersey.

"yaofeng" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> There is only one word to describe the paella in Spain, atrocious.
> This is after having paella's in the iron Bound section of Newrak, New
> Jersey.

They have terrific Portuguese food there. Very well known for it.

nancy

Check a few ones out in the Ironbound section of Newark, New Jersey.

http://www.iberiarestaurants.com/

http://www.goironbound.com/html/dining/spanish.htm

It has a sizable contingent from Spain, Brazil and Portugal. Most
would agree the paella there is better than what you get in Spain.
I've never had better paella elsewhere.

I even had feijoada in one of the Brazilain restaurant there. You
won't find too many Brazialian restaurants in the US. Out of those
even fewer serve Feijoada. The one I went in Ironbound does it only on
weekends.

"Most would agree the paella there is better than what you get in
Spain."

That's if you don't know where to go in Spain or only go to tourist
restaurants.

I had great food in all parts of Spain, including paella, and I was
travelling on a minimal budget. Not to say that there aren't some very
good Spanish restaurants in the US, but I haven't found anything quite
up to the Spanish level.

"I even had feijoada in one of the Brazilain restaurant there. You
won't find too many Brazialian restaurants in the US. Out of those
even fewer serve Feijoada. The one I went in Ironbound does it only on
weekends."

Most of the Brazilian restaurants in the US specialize in barbecued
meat, and some only serve barbecued meat. I've had more diverse
Brazilian cuisine like moqueca and feijoada, but only in New York and
Miami (I assume you can also get it in Boston and Newark). Bahian
cuisine is almost impossible to find in the US.

I have no complain about food in Spain, actually I agree with you on
good food in Spain in general, with the exception of paella. As for
Bahian food, I am still looking for aracaje in the US. But in my
experience aracaje in Rio doesn't even taste quite like the ones I had
in Salvador, Bahia.

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:15:39 +0100, The Reids
> wrote:

>Following up to Deep Foiled Malls

>>We went to the Trafalgar, and it was reasonable. Not photoworthy, but
>>not too bad. I had the fish (not cod, but something else), and it was
>>drowned in some mysterious (but tasty) sauce with green flecs in it,
>
>So whats wrong with that? Are you saying they dont do sauces in
>France?

Erm... I live in Italy. Similar, but different.

>>and it had not been filleted properly. The chips on the side were
>>ridiculously big and undercooked for my liking.
>
>Big chips are in fashion at the moment and it reduces the fat to
>food ratio.

They need to be cooked at a high temperature to reduce the fat
absorbtion and increase the crispiness. For the best chips, look no
further that Belgium. Somehow they get them just right.

>>The beer was excellent though.
>
>Glad youre one of the few foreigners able to apppreciate good
>beer.

Somehow I learnt the art of enjoying what the rest of the world laughs
at. Only in England.
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:15:40 +0100, The Reids
> wrote:

>Following up to Deep Foiled Malls
>
>>Doesn't alter the fact that the produce they use is usually shite.
>
>That's rubbish. There is nothing wrong with British produce,
>enough gets exported to France and Spain, its preparation where
>it might fall down.

How can the British afford to export any primary produce with the
value of the pound?
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The Reids wrote:
>
> Following up to Icono Clast
>
> >No, it doesn't. Improper eating leads to obese people. I frequent
> >buffets and eat enormous quantities.
>
> for most people eating enormous quantities will lead to obesity,
> its simple, calories in v calories out. What is "improper
> eating"?
> --
> Mike Reid

To put it mathematically:

calories in >> calories out = improper eating

"quiqueg" > wrote in message
...

>> Spain, I cant decide, certainly wine.
> wheat, definately

what about the cheeses, and jamon serrano????

"The Reids" > wrote in message
...
> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.

You are joking?! Chip butties are gorgeous! I always make sure I have some
bread whenever having chips :-)

"yaofeng" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Straying a bit from the content but staying with the subject matter
> nonetheless, I was thinking about food in different countries the other
> day. One thing which strikes me is the unusually large number of "all
> you can eat" restaurants in the US. Within a 20 mile radius of where I
> live, I think I can easily find 20 all you can eat places. This is
> something I didn't find in the UK, France, Spain, etc... (I didn't find
> a single all you can eat places in aformentioned countries as a matter
> of fact.)

Where I live in Newcastle I can think of at least two within walking
distance, a Chineese and an Indian. However they certainly aren't the most
prevalent type, I can think of dozens of 'standard' resaurants.

I've also visited the Spaghetti Factory in Edinburgh, The Big Wok in
Birmingham, and Red Hot Shack, in Nottingham. Based on that I'd say you'd
find at least one all you can eat in most cities in the UK.

I like the idea of them myself but I'm put off going to them as the price is
quite high and therefore you feel you have to eat until you are absolutely
bursting to justify it! So I always leave feeling quite ill really. Which
isn't the best way to remember your night out!

"Mark Hewitt" > wrote in message
...
>
> "The Reids" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
>> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
>
> You are joking?! Chip butties are gorgeous! I always make sure I have some
> bread whenever having chips :-)

So does my better half. I think he is incapable of eating chips without
bread
>
>

Following up to Tim Challenger

>> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
>> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
>
>They're brilliant. Especially when the butter runs down your wrist as you
>eat it. On a par, if not better than sausage, bacon and fried-egg butties.

nothings better than a fry up in a sandwich!
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Following up to yaofeng

>There is only one word to describe the paella in Spain, atrocious.

In a tourist restaurant away from the part of Spain it belongs,
sometimes less than perfect. A Spanish restaurateur said the
same. But I have rarely had *any* "atrocious" food in Spain.
My most enjoyable arroz was in a little locals bar in the paddy
fields of the Ebro delta, a simple abanda. If they cant cook
rice, who can? Outside Spain people often stir the rice, making
it more like Rissotto.
In my experience "foreign" restaurants (include parts of Spain in
that) only do a paella de mariscos, does this NY place do other
types?
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Following up to Deep Foiled Malls

>>So whats wrong with that? Are you saying they dont do sauces in
>>France?
>
>Erm... I live in Italy. Similar, but different.

Sorry, misremembered, but France is rated quite well for food.

>They need to be cooked at a high temperature to reduce the fat
>absorbtion and increase the crispiness. For the best chips, look no
>further that Belgium. Somehow they get them just right.

lots of practice.

>>>The beer was excellent though.
>>
>>Glad youre one of the few foreigners able to apppreciate good
>>beer.
>
>Somehow I learnt the art of enjoying what the rest of the world laughs
>at. Only in England.

Why the rest of the world thinks fizzy, freezing sweet lager is
good, I cannot understand, except that the beer matches a cool
climate and lager a hot one, maybe).
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Following up to Deep Foiled Malls

>>That's rubbish. There is nothing wrong with British produce,
>>enough gets exported to France and Spain, its preparation where
>>it might fall down.
>
>How can the British afford to export any primary produce with the
>value of the pound?

because the French and spanish think the seafood is worth paying
for? You see Spanish lorries loading at the keyside in the
Hebrides, given the prices in Spain, how does it work for them?
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Following up to Icono Clast

>> I think London is one of the better European cities for
>> restaurants if you have at least a moderate budget and really know
>> where to go...
>
>It is extremely difficult for tourists to "really know where to go".

Do what I do, as a local, read guides to supplement local
knowledge.

>One night in Italy we decided it was time to eat and entered the
>corner restaurant to be given the last two available seats at a table
>in company with a couple of Italians and French. They told us it was
>the best restaurant in town (I think it was Firenze).
>
>We certainly did have a good meal, the cost was modest and, on
>departure, there was a mob outside seeking to gain entry.

I don't think anyone is claiming the average restro in Italy
isn't better than the average in UK. Italy is possibly world
best.
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Following up to Mark Hewitt

>> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
>> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
>
>You are joking?!

no, never seen one.
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Arri London wrote:
> The Reids wrote:
>> Icono Clast said:
>>> Improper eating leads to obese people. I frequent buffets and
>>> eat enormous quantities.
>>
>> for most people eating enormous quantities will lead to obesity,
>> its simple, calories in v calories out. What is "improper
>> eating"?
>
> To put it mathematically:
>
> calories in >> calories out = improper eating

Improper eating isn't what I really mean by "improper eating" as it
might cause obesity but it can also be eating that fails to provide
proper nutrition. One can eat foods that don't cause weight-gain
while also failing to provide proper nutrition.

I'll strive for greater clarity in future.

The formula should really read:
calories in >> calories out = excess weight (fat or obesity, etc.)


>> What is "improper eating"?

12/28/2004 02:34
[Bruno's] <http://www.brunoslive.com/> used to have
good food (now it's all deep fried and, therefore, inedible for any
but the narrow-arteried obese) but it has good music.


1/21/2005 03:57
[The restaurant has been at the same location for a very long time]

Cajun cuisine so good that it qualifies as a fair value but just barely.

We had an excellent appetizer of Asparagus; I had the Sole Stuffed
with Crab, she the Blackened Salmon. We shared a glass of wine; she
had a cuppa coffee.

The reason we had the asparagus appetizer was because when I asked
"what comes with that?" vegetables were not included. This is a
matter that bothers me as restaurants should provide the basics of a
balanced and healthful meal especially when the tab with toke is $80.

Vegetable-free meals are becoming so common that I often have some
for a pre-bed snack or as part of the next day's breakfast. This is
not a good thing.
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11/15/2004 01:45
Sarah Banick wrote:
> [Cola producers use] different formulas around the world, modified
> to the market. If you ever make it to the . . . Museum in Atlanta
> (don't make a special trip), they have a tasting room with
> concoctions from all their different countries.

I doubt that I've ever had a full portion of the stuff at one sitting
in my life. I consider it, and other cola drinks, to be vile,
unhealthful, swill that ought not be available to any non-adult.
Nevertheless, at the advertisement for which you have to pay in
Atlanta, there are probably more than a dozen versions of the stuff.
I tasted many, if not most, of them and was astonished at the
differences. Some, to US taste, are undrinkable.

Pete nospam wrote:
> And if you want to have some fun with them, ask when they started
> to remove cocaine from [their soda]. When [it] first was created,
> it had a measurable amount of cocaine remaining in it. Not
> enough to do much, but it was measurable.

I did ask and the answer was unblinkingly instantaneous. I think it
was 1902 but am not sure.
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3/15/2005 03:46
Mxsmanic wrote:
> if you live alone and have to work for a living, you don't always
> have a lot of time to spend on food preparation.

Doesn't have t'take "a lot of time".

A few weeks ago I prepared about a litre (I guess) of lentils with
rice and froze the lot in portion-size containers. Warms up nicely
and is one of the best sources of protein on the planet.

I believe tofu is a good source of protein that can probably be
enhanced by combining it with something complementary.

[Tofo is a complete protein that doesn't need a complement.]

My corner grocery sells hot-off-the-spit chicken for about U$4.50 and
throws in shredded cabbage, green and red hot sauces, tomato slices,
carrots, and chiles jalapeños. I always tell myself to "save half for
tomorrow" but I always devour the whole thing at one sitting, maybe
two or three of 'em a month.

There are many inexpensive cuts of meat that are good sources of
protein. I particularly like chuck steak.

Also in the freezer is a whole buncha patties I made of ground turkey
that fry nicely to become tasty burgers.

I avoid prepared packaged foods (haven't bought any in memory) as
they're usually high in salt, sugar, and/or fat and aren't very
healthful. They also contain preservatives and other chemicals that
might not be good to ingest in considerable quantity.

My life-long diet has consisted mostly of healthful foods properly
prepared. Of course I eat junk food and stuff that contains a lot of
unhealthful stuff but it's rare. The advantage of rarely having such
foods is that they're an extremely enjoyable treat.

I'm not a food freak; I believe that eating a wide variety of foods
provides all the nutrition one needs. I'm an old man. I do not have
any problems with weight (my Body Mass Index is lower than 25), I
take no pills, have no ills (in spite of smoking for longer than
fifty years have lung capacity measured to be equivalent to a man
aged 21) have blood pressure well below any reported danger level, a
cholesterol count at the maximum of OK, and often hear young dancers
say they "hope I'm as energetic as you when I'm your age".

I attribute it all to how I eat. My only eating "problem" is that I
consume enormous quantities -- buffets lose money when I visit. I'll
probably die tomorrow.
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On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 04:26:52 -0700, Icono Clast wrote:

>> calories in >> calories out = improper eating
>
> Improper eating isn't what I really mean by "improper eating" as it
> might cause obesity but it can also be eating that fails to provide
> proper nutrition. One can eat foods that don't cause weight-gain
> while also failing to provide proper nutrition.
>
> I'll strive for greater clarity in future.

But don't go as far as Mixi, please! ;-)
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"The Reids" > wrote in message
news
> Following up to Mark Hewitt
>
>>> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
>>> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
>>
>>You are joking?!
>
> no, never seen one.

Put that right today. Get some chips, and some bread!

"Tim Challenger" > wrote in message
news:1112699065.d84774e73fa7185d4fc921bde88a5266@t eranews...
> On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:15:37 +0100, The Reids wrote:
>
>> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
>> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
>
> They're brilliant. Especially when the butter runs down your wrist as you
> eat it. On a par, if not better than sausage, bacon and fried-egg butties.
> --
> Tim C.
*
I've only heard the term from perhaps the best source of British pop
culture --reruns of "Keeping Up Appearances."

A typical utterance from Onslow during his breakfast beer: I could murder a
bacon butty right about now!

Pablo
(Basking in the merits of educational television )
; )

Mark Hewitt > wrote:

> "The Reids" > wrote in message
> news
> > Following up to Mark Hewitt
> >
> >>> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
> >>> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
> >>
> >>You are joking?!
> >
> > no, never seen one.
>
> Put that right today. Get some chips, and some bread!

Wot, no sauce?!

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>
> I'll set out what I think for clarity!
> In UK potato is dominant carbohydrate and will normally be the
> only one, if another carb is used (say rice) the potato
> disappears. I have never actually seen a chip buttie,

Crikey! How can you live in the UK for umpteen years and not......

although
> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
> Some people might have chips with lasagne, but thats an
> aberation.
Why? I'm pretty sure I've seen rice with shepherd's pie too. Even
"non-traditional" food gets in on the act, eg curry with rice AND naan
bread.
Appreciation of food is fairly new to the UK

I think it was appreciated to some extent pre-industrial Revolution, at
least among the more well-to-do. However I think what we are seeing is
a re-emergence of that appreciation.

and like
> the US, food has changed drastically over the last 30 years. It
> hasnt reached the bottom of the pile yet, hence Jamie Oliver and
> his school dinners campaign.

Came 25 years too late for me :-)

Edmund

Pablo wrote:

> "Tim Challenger" > wrote in message
> news:1112699065.d84774e73fa7185d4fc921bde88a5266@t eranews...
> > On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:15:37 +0100, The Reids wrote:
> >
> >> I have never actually seen a chip buttie, although
> >> i'm sure poor people eat them to fill up, at least in the past.
> >
> > They're brilliant. Especially when the butter runs down your wrist
> as you
> > eat it. On a par, if not better than sausage, bacon and fried-egg
> butties.
> > --
> > Tim C.
> *
> I've only heard the term from perhaps the best source of British pop
> culture --reruns of "Keeping Up Appearances."
>
> A typical utterance from Onslow during his breakfast beer: I could
> murder a
> bacon butty right about now!

I actually had to have the "nice bit o' crumpet" comment from "Are you
being served?" explained to me.
---
JL

>
>
> Pablo
> (Basking in the merits of educational television )
> ; )