Ireland and UK are "potato and beer cultures".
Italy is I suppose a wheat and wine culture.
Spain, I cant decide, certainly wine.
France: potato and wine?
Can anyone draw a word map of the dominance of the potato, rice
or wheat through Europe, along with beer and wine?
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The Reids > wrote:

> Ireland and UK are "potato and beer cultures".

Depends whose household!

We almost never have potatoes as the main carbohydrate in a meal. I use
them quite a bit, in stews, curries etc. (yesterday in a Tortilla), also
as accompaniments with rice- but rarely the main thing. I suppose the
potato probably still dominates in the UK, but I wonder if that isn't
changing...


--
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The Reids > wrote in
:

> Ireland and UK are "potato and beer cultures".
Germany too (Austria, Hungary etc. are more wheat-based...)

> Italy is I suppose a wheat and wine culture.
yup, though mostly in the north, corn (and to a lesser degree, rice) have
had, especially in the past, a key role in nutrition. Until the late 1950s
some parts of the north relied on little more than cornmeal for survival.

> Spain, I cant decide, certainly wine.
wheat, definately

> France: potato and wine?
imho, wheat. Think "baguette"

> Can anyone draw a word map of the dominance of the potato, rice
> or wheat through Europe, along with beer and wine?

draw an imaginary and very blurred line mid-height through france and
germany (and Poland, and so on). Below that line, wheat is the main source
for carbs (including countries from northern Africa), Above the line,
potato is.

QQG
--
I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.

Beer: England, Ireland, Germany (except Rhine region), Belgium,
Netherlands, Denmark, Czech Republic

Wine: Spain, Portugal, Italy, France, Romania, Rhine region of Germany,
Austria, Hungary, Greece

Vodka: Russia, Sweden, Finland, Poland

> kirjoitti viestissä
oups.com...
>
> Vodka: Russia, Sweden, Finland, Poland
>
Russians drink vodka.

> Ireland and UK are "potato and beer cultures".
> Italy is I suppose a wheat and wine culture.
> Spain, I cant decide, certainly wine.
> France: potato and wine?
> Can anyone draw a word map of the dominance of the potato, rice
> or wheat through Europe, along with beer and wine?

Look at any decent Italian cookbook, and it is really only the south where
Wheat (Pasta, bread) is the main culture.
Up North it is much more potato/rice that prevails.

The Reids wrote:

> Can anyone draw a word map of the dominance of the potato, rice
> or wheat through Europe, along with beer and wine?

At the risk that this is just a snapshot: Iam sitting in my garden in
the Munich suburbs and just had some wonderful salmon spaghetti with a
glass of buttermilk :-)

My cellar accomodates changing beer specialities as well as some bottles
of red Bordeaux (for myself) and other wines (for guests), even if I
think the old saying

+-------------------------------------------------------+
| Wine is the stuff you drink when the beer is all gone |
+-------------------------------------------------------+

contains some truth for myself.

Je"Southern Bavaria - Beer; Northern Bavaria (Franconia) - Wine"ns
--
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chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn wrote:
> The Reids > wrote:
>
> > Ireland and UK are "potato and beer cultures".
>
> Depends whose household!
Yes, these days I think such "cultures" are becoming less relevant,
what with increased availability of exotic food and changing
agriculture. Loads of Brits eat rice and pasta. Go to a pub for a meal
and you'll get asked "Chips or rice with that?" very often.

>
> We almost never have potatoes as the main carbohydrate in a meal. I
use
> them quite a bit, in stews, curries etc. (yesterday in a Tortilla),

Chips I suppose still keep the potato dominant to some extent. But I
agree it's rare to have them as the only carb (chip butties, lasagne
and chips anyone?).


also
> as accompaniments with rice- but rarely the main thing. I suppose the
> potato probably still dominates in the UK, but I wonder if that isn't
> changing...

Mention "potato" to me and I think tasteless boiled things beloved of
school caterers. (Love the baked and roasted ones though). Ditto
"cabbage". Certainly in the last 20 years or so there's been a massive
move away from these old staples. Many people in Britain under 40 have
come to view old-style British food (shoe-leather meat; potatoes, peas
and cabbage boiled to death etc) with the same distaste as Continentals
long held. Can't say that's a bad thing.

>
>
> --
> David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
> usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

As far as drinks go, here the old boundaries still more or less exist.
Beer: Britain, Ireland, Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden
plus parts of France near German and Belgian borders.
Wine: Spain, Italy, rest of France, Greece
Also whisky in Scotland and Ireland and cider in a few enclaves (SW
England, parts of N Spain and France).
Switzerland is the one that's hard to call.

Edmund

The Reids wrote:
> Ireland and UK are "potato and beer cultures".
> Italy is I suppose a wheat and wine culture.
> Spain, I cant decide, certainly wine.
> France: potato and wine?
> Can anyone draw a word map of the dominance of the potato, rice
> or wheat through Europe, along with beer and wine?


Potato: http://www.dpw.wageningen-ur.nl/eapr/links.htm

schrieb:
> Beer: England, Ireland, Germany (except Rhine region), Belgium,
> Netherlands, Denmark, Czech Republic
>
> Wine: Spain, Portugal, Italy, France, Romania, Rhine region of Germany,

+ Mosel, Suebia, Franconia and Saale = wine.

> Austria, Hungary, Greece
>
> Vodka: Russia, Sweden, Finland, Poland
>

"The Reids" > wrote in message
...
> Can anyone draw a word map of the dominance of the potato, rice
> or wheat through Europe, along with beer and wine?

I once saw a map of what Americans most frequently call a non-alcoholic
carbonated beverage. It was divided into regions of "Soda", "Pop", "Coke",
and other based on responses from people on the Web.

--
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Jens Arne Maennig wrote:

> [...]
> Je"Southern Bavaria - Beer; Northern Bavaria (Franconia) - Wine"ns

Northern Bavaria - Franconia, that is - has more breweries than southern
Bavaria. The highest density of breweries breweries per square km in
the world is in the Franconian region that centers on Bamberg.

Of course, this is the same Franconia that has Würzburg, a city that
once attempted to ban the brewing of beer in its territory. Beer won
out, eventually, even there.
--
dgs

SeverinBohnheim wrote:

> schrieb:
>
>> Beer: England, Ireland, Germany (except Rhine region), Belgium,
>> Netherlands, Denmark, Czech Republic
>>
>> Wine: Spain, Portugal, Italy, France, Romania, Rhine region of Germany,
>
> + Mosel, Suebia, Franconia and Saale = wine.

Franconia is even more of a beer territory than a wine territory.
--
dgs

Straying a bit from the content but staying with the subject matter
nonetheless, I was thinking about food in different countries the other
day. One thing which strikes me is the unusually large number of "all
you can eat" restaurants in the US. Within a 20 mile radius of where I
live, I think I can easily find 20 all you can eat places. This is
something I didn't find in the UK, France, Spain, etc... (I didn't find
a single all you can eat places in aformentioned countries as a matter
of fact.)

Is it because I am a tourist and didn't know my way around where as in
my own hometown I am familiar with the local environment? This is
beside the fact that virtually all restaurants serve far larger
portions as compared to countries from around the world.

This naturally leads to unusually large number of obese people in the
US, a subject covered and flammed by many on this board.

Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn

>> Ireland and UK are "potato and beer cultures".
>
>Depends whose household!
>
>We almost never have potatoes as the main carbohydrate in a meal. I use
>them quite a bit, in stews, curries etc. (yesterday in a Tortilla), also
>as accompaniments with rice- but rarely the main thing. I suppose the
>potato probably still dominates in the UK, but I wonder if that isn't
>changing...

Certainly, although my mother in law has potatoes with her curry
instead of rice :-)
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Following up to quiqueg

>> Spain, I cant decide, certainly wine.
>wheat, definately

I think that's right, bread is the universal thing in Spain.
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Following up to Edmund Lewis

>Chips I suppose still keep the potato dominant to some extent. But I
>agree it's rare to have them as the only carb (chip butties, lasagne
>and chips anyone?).

Did you type what you meant?

> also
>> as accompaniments with rice- but rarely the main thing. I suppose the
>> potato probably still dominates in the UK, but I wonder if that isn't
>> changing...
>
>Mention "potato" to me and I think tasteless boiled things beloved of
>school caterers. (Love the baked and roasted ones though)

but get a quality potato like a pink fir apple and boiled
potatoes are a wonderful thing.
--
Mike Reid
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The Reids > wrote:

> Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn
>
> >> Ireland and UK are "potato and beer cultures".
> >
> >Depends whose household!
> >
> >We almost never have potatoes as the main carbohydrate in a meal. I use
> >them quite a bit, in stews, curries etc. (yesterday in a Tortilla), also
> >as accompaniments with rice- but rarely the main thing. I suppose the
> >potato probably still dominates in the UK, but I wonder if that isn't
> >changing...
>
> Certainly, although my mother in law has potatoes with her curry
> instead of rice :-)

And the ubiquitous curry and chips!

--
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usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

yaofeng wrote:
> "all you can eat" restaurants in the US . . . This is something I
> didn't find in the UK, France, Spain, etc...

I saw one, not so advertised, in London. It was a pizza joint,
probably in West One, with a "buffet". I went in to see very sad
looking slices of "pizza" and, I think, some spaghetti and some
ravioli. No salad, no vegetables, no fruit, no nuttin' but those
three items. I enquired about how it worked to be told to have all I
wanted. It looked so awful that I didn't want any and went elsewhere.
Eating for fun is is certainly a pleasure but doing so absent
nutritional value is, uh, fruitless.

> This naturally leads to unusually large number of obese people in
> the US, a subject covered and flammed by many on this board.

No, it doesn't. Improper eating leads to obese people. I frequent
buffets and eat enormous quantities. I'm old and far from obese. My
Body Mass Index is lower than 25.
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Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn

>> Certainly, although my mother in law has potatoes with her curry
>> instead of rice :-)
>
>And the ubiquitous curry and chips!

and in reverse, chilli con carne with rice.
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dgs schrieb:
> SeverinBohnheim wrote:
>
>> schrieb:
>>
>>> Beer: England, Ireland, Germany (except Rhine region), Belgium,
>>> Netherlands, Denmark, Czech Republic
>>>
>>> Wine: Spain, Portugal, Italy, France, Romania, Rhine region of Germany,
>>
>>
>> + Mosel, Suebia, Franconia and Saale = wine.
>
>
> Franconia is even more of a beer territory than a wine territory.


ok, but Mainfranken / Iffgau and other regions of Franconia are
wineregions, no doubt. One of the best German white wine is produced there.

http://www.wein-abc.de/anbaugebiete/index.php

In other wineregions people are used to drink beer too and have famous
breweries like in Cologne or Freiburg - or Alsace (Kronenburg / Meteor /
Schutzenberger). But no doubt this are wineregions.

> I once saw a map of what Americans most frequently call a non-alcoholic
> carbonated beverage. It was divided into regions of "Soda", "Pop",
> "Coke", and other based on responses from people on the Web.

Did they include "ginger"?

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Yes. Brazil is one country "all you can eat" is alive and well. The
Churiscaria turns my stomach. But it is not nearly as popular as in
the US. Here there are Chinese, Japanese, Spanish, Portugese, you name
it. You can eat all.

Jack Campin - bogus address wrote:
> > I once saw a map of what Americans most frequently call a
non-alcoholic
> > carbonated beverage. It was divided into regions of "Soda", "Pop",
> > "Coke", and other based on responses from people on the Web.
>
> Did they include "ginger"?
>

http://www.popvssoda.com/

>>> I once saw a map of what Americans most frequently call a non-alcoholic
>>> carbonated beverage. It was divided into regions of "Soda", "Pop",
>>> "Coke", and other based on responses from people on the Web.
>> Did they include "ginger"?
> http://www.popvssoda.com/

Could have done with some editing. I looked at Pennsylvania, as you
often get Scotticisms in Pittsburgh dialect, but "ginger" (common in
Glasgow) doesn't seem to have got there.

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Following up to Icono Clast

>This is something I
>> didn't find in the UK, France, Spain, etc...
>
>I saw one, not so advertised, in London. It was a pizza joint,
>probably in West One, with a "buffet". I went in to see very sad
>looking slices of "pizza"......

You will find a few buffet style places like that, often
downmarket ethnic food at unpopular times. Big hotels also
sometimes have a buffet where you *could* all you wanted, but as
you say they are not promoted as "eat all you can".
--
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On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Jack Campin - bogus address wrote:

>>>> I once saw a map of what Americans most frequently call a non-alcoholic
>>>> carbonated beverage. It was divided into regions of "Soda", "Pop",
>>>> "Coke", and other based on responses from people on the Web.
>>> Did they include "ginger"?
>> http://www.popvssoda.com/
>
> Could have done with some editing. I looked at Pennsylvania, as you
> often get Scotticisms in Pittsburgh dialect, but "ginger" (common in
> Glasgow) doesn't seem to have got there.
>

Elaborate on scotticisms in pgh?

Thanks!

Lena

On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 02:58:20 -0700, Icono Clast >
wrote:

>yaofeng wrote:
>> "all you can eat" restaurants in the US . . . This is something I
>> didn't find in the UK, France, Spain, etc...
>
>I saw one, not so advertised, in London. It was a pizza joint,
>probably in West One, with a "buffet". I went in to see very sad
>looking slices of "pizza" and, I think, some spaghetti and some
>ravioli. No salad, no vegetables, no fruit, no nuttin' but those
>three items. I enquired about how it worked to be told to have all I
>wanted. It looked so awful that I didn't want any and went elsewhere.

(apologise in advance to Mike Reid, but I am about to dump on British
food once again!)

Here are some shots of pizza from the West End. All were taken within
the last week, although some of it looks a lot older than that.

http://deepfriedmars.com/OddPics/LondonPizza1.JPG
http://deepfriedmars.com/OddPics/LondonPizza2.JPG
http://deepfriedmars.com/OddPics/LondonPizza3.JPG

and here's what happens if you eat too much of it:
http://deepfriedmars.com/OddPics/PizzaChampion.JPG

Also seen in Greenwich, these delightful ones:
http://deepfriedmars.com/OddPics/Prawnies1.JPG
http://deepfriedmars.com/OddPics/Prawnies2.JPG

Not actual prawns, but bits of the fish of the day, mashed up,
coloured, flavoured and squeezed into a prawn-ish shape.
--
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On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 11:13:47 +0100, The Reids
> wrote:

>Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn
>
>>> Certainly, although my mother in law has potatoes with her curry
>>> instead of rice :-)
>>
>>And the ubiquitous curry and chips!
>
>and in reverse, chilli con carne with rice.

How about fried rice seasoned with curry powder?
--
---
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---
--

Following up to Deep Foiled Malls

>Here are some shots of pizza from the West End. All were taken within
>the last week, although some of it looks a lot older than that.
>
>http://deepfriedmars.com/OddPics/LondonPizza1.JPG
>http://deepfriedmars.com/OddPics/LondonPizza2.JPG
>http://deepfriedmars.com/OddPics/LondonPizza3.JPG

You can certainly get poor food in the West End. The down market
food places are still not good enough, but in the West End why
are all the tourists buying it? Go to the restaurant area where
people like me eat (100 metres away) around Charlotte Street and
take some photos there!

>and here's what happens if you eat too much of it:
>http://deepfriedmars.com/OddPics/PizzaChampion.JPG

Fatness isn't a particularly UK feature :-)

>Also seen in Greenwich, these delightful ones:
>http://deepfriedmars.com/OddPics/Prawnies1.JPG
>http://deepfriedmars.com/OddPics/Prawnies2.JPG
>
>Not actual prawns, but bits of the fish of the day, mashed up,
>coloured, flavoured and squeezed into a prawn-ish shape.

I have walked past those a couple of times, hadn't realised they
were not prawns. In the market proper there is plenty of quality
food, but you didn't photo that? There's also an (overpriced)
French style restaurant 100 metres away and at least a couple of
pubs with perfectly reasonable food. The Yacht, The Trafalgar or
The Greenwich Union (I have not tried the Union, but its supposed
to be good, sourcing its food from the specialist food outlets in
the immediate area.
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Following up to Deep Foiled Malls

>(apologise in advance to Mike Reid, but I am about to dump on British
>food once again!)

Heres some more favourable market photos, looking for the best
not the worst! :-)
http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/borough.htm"
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The Reids > wrote:

[]
> You will find a few buffet style places like that, often
> downmarket ethnic food at unpopular times.

Depends where. If you like Thai food, the Pacific Restaurant in
Manchester's Chinatown does an excellent buffet on weekend afternoons
for around 7 or 8 UKP. I'm not usually a fan of buffets, but this one is
excellent and deservedly popular. It's best to book- and there two
'sittings'- one at 12.00, and one another at 1.45.

--
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usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

> From: "yaofeng" >
> Organization: http://groups.google.com
> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe,rec.food.cooking
> Date: 3 Apr 2005 20:57:41 -0700
> Subject: European food cultures
>
> Straying a bit from the content but staying with the subject matter
> nonetheless, I was thinking about food in different countries the other
> day. One thing which strikes me is the unusually large number of "all
> you can eat" restaurants in the US. Within a 20 mile radius of where I
> live, I think I can easily find 20 all you can eat places. This is
> something I didn't find in the UK, France, Spain, etc... (I didn't find
> a single all you can eat places in aformentioned countries as a matter
> of fact.)
>
> Is it because I am a tourist and didn't know my way around where as in
> my own hometown I am familiar with the local environment? This is
> beside the fact that virtually all restaurants serve far larger
> portions as compared to countries from around the world.
>
> This naturally leads to unusually large number of obese people in the
> US, a subject covered and flammed by many on this board.

I am sad to report that there seem to be more and more restaurants (usually
the cheap ones) here in France that advertise "buffet à volonté" (all you
can eat from the buffet). However, in real life, I have not yet seen people
go back to the buffet more than seconds.

Donna Evleth
>

> From: Icono Clast >
> Organization: IClast at SFbay net
> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe,rec.food.cooking
> Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 02:58:20 -0700
> Subject: European food cultures
>
> No, it doesn't. Improper eating leads to obese people. I frequent
> buffets and eat enormous quantities. I'm old and far from obese. My
> Body Mass Index is lower than 25.

I, too, frequent buffets (the Campanile motels have these in their
restaurants, and sometimes after a day on the highway we are too tired to do
otherwise, and we now go to Caen every other weekend, where we eat at such
places at noon because we need to be close by the prison for the Saturday
afternoon visit, and the only restaurants anywhere close are all this type).
However, I practice moderation. I will be 70 my next birthday (July) and my
Body Mass Index is 18.5.

Moderation is the key word, I believe. I once read something written by a
Bordeaux nutritionist, who said, "Eat everything, but in moderation." I
think he's right.

Donna Evleth

> From: The Reids >
> Organization: Gillard-Reid
> Reply-To:
> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe,rec.food.cooking
> Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 17:48:44 +0100
> Subject: European food cultures
>
> Following up to Deep Foiled Malls
>
>> (apologise in advance to Mike Reid, but I am about to dump on British
>> food once again!)
>
> Heres some more favourable market photos, looking for the best
> not the worst! :-)
> http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/borough.htm"

That looks like a lot of our markets here. Like our local favorite, the
Marché Saint Germain.

Donna Evleth
> --
> Mike Reid
> Wasdale-Thames path-London-Photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can
> email us@ this site
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> spamtrap

The Reids wrote:
> Following up to Edmund Lewis
>
> >Chips I suppose still keep the potato dominant to some extent. But I
> >agree it's rare to have them as the only carb (chip butties, lasagne
> >and chips anyone?).
>
> Did you type what you meant?

What do you think I meant? I'm confused.

> > also
> >> as accompaniments with rice- but rarely the main thing. I suppose
the
> >> potato probably still dominates in the UK, but I wonder if that
isn't
> >> changing...
> >
> >Mention "potato" to me and I think tasteless boiled things beloved
of
> >school caterers. (Love the baked and roasted ones though)
>
> but get a quality potato like a pink fir apple and boiled
> potatoes are a wonderful thing.


Edmund

On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 17:41:23 +0100, The Reids
> wrote:

>Following up to Deep Foiled Malls
>

>>and here's what happens if you eat too much of it:
>>http://deepfriedmars.com/OddPics/PizzaChampion.JPG
>
>Fatness isn't a particularly UK feature :-)

That photo was a bit cruel. I don't think he was British anyway, as he
didnt tell me to bugger off.

>>Also seen in Greenwich, these delightful ones:
>>http://deepfriedmars.com/OddPics/Prawnies1.JPG
>>http://deepfriedmars.com/OddPics/Prawnies2.JPG
>>
>>Not actual prawns, but bits of the fish of the day, mashed up,
>>coloured, flavoured and squeezed into a prawn-ish shape.
>
>I have walked past those a couple of times, hadn't realised they
>were not prawns.

I suspect few do until it's too late.

>In the market proper there is plenty of quality
>food, but you didn't photo that? There's also an (overpriced)
>French style restaurant 100 metres away and at least a couple of
>pubs with perfectly reasonable food. The Yacht, The Trafalgar or
>The Greenwich Union (I have not tried the Union, but its supposed
>to be good, sourcing its food from the specialist food outlets in
>the immediate area.

We went to the Trafalgar, and it was reasonable. Not photoworthy, but
not too bad. I had the fish (not cod, but something else), and it was
drowned in some mysterious (but tasty) sauce with green flecs in it,
and it had not been filleted properly. The chips on the side were
ridiculously big and undercooked for my liking.

The beer was excellent though.
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--

I am 52 and my BMI is 26. Of course a BMI of 24 is my goal but have
been trying to get there for a few years without sucess. I believe
metabolism and heredity play important part in your BMI in addition to
diet. My sons and duaghter are all thin no matter how much they eat.
I was the same way in my younger days. I don't go "all you can eat"
anymore because I have no will power and felt sick afterward, everytime.

On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:39:26 +0200, Donna Evleth >
wrote:

|I am sad to report that there seem to be more and more restaurants (usually
|the cheap ones) here in France that advertise "buffet à volonté" (all you
|can eat from the buffet). However, in real life, I have not yet seen people
|go back to the buffet more than seconds.
|
|Donna Evleth
|>

When you are both on diets, and are used to sharing a single main
course for that reason anyway, "all you can eat" buffets become
extravagantly expensive - in health terms as well as cash.


Cheers, Alan, Australia

yaofeng wrote:

> Yes. Brazil is one country "all you can eat" is alive and well. The
> Churiscaria turns my stomach.

Don't know why. They can be good places if you know how to maintain
control, just like any place with all-you-care-to-eat food.

> But it is not nearly as popular as in
> the US.

It's starting to catch on though. There are churrascarias in some
of the bigger American cities; I've been to the Plataforma in New York.
There are others scattered around the country.

> Here there are Chinese, Japanese, Spanish, Portugese, you name
> it. You can eat all.

Haven't yet found a Portuguese "AYCE" place yet. Nor Spanish. Mexican,
yes; avoid like the plague. Chinese and Indian "AYCE" are quite common
in the USA. But I've also had Indian "AYCE" buffets in the UK.

Another spin on "AYCE" would be the Heurigen in Vienna. Food is taken
from a buffet table, to go with the young wine. You eat, you drink,
you get full, you get drunk. Then you go for a nice walk afterwards to
clear your head.
--
dgs