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John Gaughan
 
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Tomorrow I am giving a speech to test out of one of my college classes.
It can be on anything I want, so I chose food, specifically, cakes. I am
going to talk about what makes a cake a cake, basic types of cakes
(white/yellow, foam, cupcakes) and the differences between them, an
overview on the types of pans and cooking methods, and give example cake
types for each (pound cake, carrot cake, angel food, etc).

Does it sound like I am missing anything? The speech is 5-7 minutes
long, and so far I am more toward the short end. Usually my speeches are
almost too long. Anyway, I have to get an A on the speech to test out of
the course.

Are there any interesting nuggets of information I should include? I am
graded on the presentation, not the content, but any content that peaks
interest helps the presentation.

--
John Gaughan
http://www.johngaughan.net/

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You might also include Marie Antoinette's "let them eat cake" quote.
Also, tell them about the man who was married to two women, Edith and
Kate. For years neither found out about the other, but when they did
find out, there was hell to pay. In the middle of all the fighting, the
man said "look, when you didn't know about each other, you were both
happy. What was wrong with that arrangement." The two consulted and
finally told him that he couldn't have his Kate and Edith too.


--Lia

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Julia Altshuler wrote:

> You might also include Marie Antoinette's "let them eat cake" quote.


Actually, she said "Let them eat brioche." True. "Qu'ils mangeant de
la brioche."

Perhaps talk about the kind of cakes that aren't baked. Johnnycakes.
Pancakes. English "puddings" that are steamed cakes, like suet cake
and plum pudding. Why are there cakes at weddings? How did the custom
of birthday cakes begin?

Pat-a-cake, pat-a-cake baker man
bake me a cake as fast as you can...

Mention Marcel Proust's reveries when confronted with that haunting
tea cake called a "madelaine."

Pastorio


> Also, tell them about the man who was married to two women, Edith and
> Kate. For years neither found out about the other, but when they did
> find out, there was hell to pay. In the middle of all the fighting, the
> man said "look, when you didn't know about each other, you were both
> happy. What was wrong with that arrangement." The two consulted and
> finally told him that he couldn't have his Kate and Edith too.
>
> --Lia


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"John Gaughan" > wrote in message
...
> Tomorrow I am giving a speech to test out of one of my college classes.
> It can be on anything I want, so I chose food, specifically, cakes. I am
> going to talk about what makes a cake a cake, basic types of cakes
> (white/yellow, foam, cupcakes) and the differences between them, an
> overview on the types of pans and cooking methods, and give example cake
> types for each (pound cake, carrot cake, angel food, etc).
>
> Does it sound like I am missing anything? The speech is 5-7 minutes
> long, and so far I am more toward the short end. Usually my speeches are
> almost too long. Anyway, I have to get an A on the speech to test out of
> the course.
>
> Are there any interesting nuggets of information I should include? I am
> graded on the presentation, not the content, but any content that peaks
> interest helps the presentation.
>
> --
> John Gaughan
> http://www.johngaughan.net/
>


Yes,

How cakes are used for different traditions in different cultures.

King Cake

http://whatscookingamerica.net/Bread/KingCake.htm

Wedding cake
http://www.cakesbysam.com/Wedding_Cake_History.htm

Overview
http://whatscookingamerica.net/Q-A/CakeHistory.htm

Google "cake history"

Dimitri


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John Gaughan wrote:

> Are there any interesting nuggets of information I should include? I am
> graded on the presentation, not the content, but any content that peaks
> interest helps the presentation.


Well then you must bring cake to share...feeding hungry graders is
customary, right? Don't students feed their thesis committee folks as they
defend their thesis? Consider it a "visual aid"
Goomba



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"Goomba38" > wrote in message
...
> John Gaughan wrote:
>
> > Are there any interesting nuggets of information I should include? I am
> > graded on the presentation, not the content, but any content that peaks
> > interest helps the presentation.

>
> Well then you must bring cake to share...feeding hungry graders is
> customary, right? Don't students feed their thesis committee folks as they
> defend their thesis? Consider it a "visual aid"
> Goomba


Whoops. Not any more - contrary to the opinion of Bill Cosby (Himself) cake
is now considered by many school boards as Junk Food and is therefore banned
on many school grounds.

Dimitri


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"Dimitri" > wrote in message
. com...
>
> "Goomba38" > wrote in message
> ...
> > John Gaughan wrote:
> >
> > > Are there any interesting nuggets of information I should include? I

am
> > > graded on the presentation, not the content, but any content that

peaks
> > > interest helps the presentation.

> >
> > Well then you must bring cake to share...feeding hungry graders is
> > customary, right? Don't students feed their thesis committee folks as

they
> > defend their thesis? Consider it a "visual aid"
> > Goomba

>
> Whoops. Not any more - contrary to the opinion of Bill Cosby (Himself)

cake
> is now considered by many school boards as Junk Food and is therefore

banned
> on many school grounds.
>
> Dimitri
>
>


WHAT? You're not serious, are you? Especially since I believe if this
particular person is giving a speech, I would assume that they would be at
college level.
kili


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John Gaughan wrote:

> Are there any interesting nuggets of information I should include? I am
> graded on the presentation, not the content, but any content that peaks
> interest helps the presentation.



Well if your primarily concerned with "peaking the interest" of the
presentation and your not graded on content then I can only recommend
the solution that will in fact give you 100% interest from your
professor. And that is to give a presentation on the art of
presentations... As of now your banking on your professor's interest in
cooking... which may not be in your favor..

~john

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kilikini > asked incredulously in message
after Dimitri"
> wrote:
> > > Well then you must bring cake to share...


> > Not any more - contrary to the opinion of Bill Cosby (Himself)
> > cake is now considered by many school boards as Junk Food and
> > is therefore banned on many school grounds.
> >

> WHAT? You're not serious, are you? Especially since I believe if
> this particular person is giving a speech, I would assume that they
> would be at college level.


There's nothing quite like an April Fool...

The Ranger


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"The Ranger" > wrote in message
...
> kilikini > asked incredulously in message
> after Dimitri"
> > wrote:
> > > > Well then you must bring cake to share...

>
> > > Not any more - contrary to the opinion of Bill Cosby (Himself)
> > > cake is now considered by many school boards as Junk Food and
> > > is therefore banned on many school grounds.
> > >

> > WHAT? You're not serious, are you? Especially since I believe if
> > this particular person is giving a speech, I would assume that they
> > would be at college level.

>
> There's nothing quite like an April Fool...
>
> The Ranger
>
>


Oh, thanks alot! <VBG>
kili




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"kilikini" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
> . com...
> >
> > "Goomba38" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > John Gaughan wrote:
> > >
> > > > Are there any interesting nuggets of information I should include? I

> am
> > > > graded on the presentation, not the content, but any content that

> peaks
> > > > interest helps the presentation.
> > >
> > > Well then you must bring cake to share...feeding hungry graders is
> > > customary, right? Don't students feed their thesis committee folks as

> they
> > > defend their thesis? Consider it a "visual aid"
> > > Goomba

> >
> > Whoops. Not any more - contrary to the opinion of Bill Cosby (Himself)

> cake
> > is now considered by many school boards as Junk Food and is therefore

> banned
> > on many school grounds.
> >
> > Dimitri
> >
> >

>
> WHAT? You're not serious, are you? Especially since I believe if this
> particular person is giving a speech, I would assume that they would be at
> college level.
> kili


The Better Nutrition for School Children Act of 2001

C) OPTIONS- In promulgating regulations under subparagraph (B)(ii), the
Secretary shall establish such requirements as the Secretary determines are
appropriate, which may include--
`(i) prohibiting the sale, donation, or service without charge of foods of
minimal nutritional value during the covered period on all or part of school
grounds; or
`(ii) permitting States and local school authorities to prohibit the sale,
donation, or service without charge of foods of minimal nutritional value
during the covered period on all or part of school grounds.

Dimitri


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"Dimitri" > wrote in message
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>
> "kilikini" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Dimitri" > wrote in message
> > . com...
> > >
> > > "Goomba38" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > John Gaughan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Are there any interesting nuggets of information I should include?

I
> > am
> > > > > graded on the presentation, not the content, but any content that

> > peaks
> > > > > interest helps the presentation.
> > > >
> > > > Well then you must bring cake to share...feeding hungry graders is
> > > > customary, right? Don't students feed their thesis committee folks

as
> > they
> > > > defend their thesis? Consider it a "visual aid"
> > > > Goomba
> > >
> > > Whoops. Not any more - contrary to the opinion of Bill Cosby

(Himself)
> > cake
> > > is now considered by many school boards as Junk Food and is therefore

> > banned
> > > on many school grounds.
> > >
> > > Dimitri
> > >
> > >

> >
> > WHAT? You're not serious, are you? Especially since I believe if this
> > particular person is giving a speech, I would assume that they would be

at
> > college level.
> > kili

>
> The Better Nutrition for School Children Act of 2001
>
> C) OPTIONS- In promulgating regulations under subparagraph (B)(ii), the
> Secretary shall establish such requirements as the Secretary determines

are
> appropriate, which may include--
> `(i) prohibiting the sale, donation, or service without charge of foods of
> minimal nutritional value during the covered period on all or part of

school
> grounds; or
> `(ii) permitting States and local school authorities to prohibit the sale,
> donation, or service without charge of foods of minimal nutritional value
> during the covered period on all or part of school grounds.
>
> Dimitri
>
>


God, that's amazing! No more Key Club chocolate sales - how about school
lunches? Do they provide cakes or desserts anymore?
kili


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"kilikini" > wrote in message
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> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "kilikini" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "Dimitri" > wrote in message
> > > . com...
> > > >
> > > > "Goomba38" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > John Gaughan wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Are there any interesting nuggets of information I should

include?
> I
> > > am
> > > > > > graded on the presentation, not the content, but any content

that
> > > peaks
> > > > > > interest helps the presentation.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well then you must bring cake to share...feeding hungry graders is
> > > > > customary, right? Don't students feed their thesis committee folks

> as
> > > they
> > > > > defend their thesis? Consider it a "visual aid"
> > > > > Goomba
> > > >
> > > > Whoops. Not any more - contrary to the opinion of Bill Cosby

> (Himself)
> > > cake
> > > > is now considered by many school boards as Junk Food and is

therefore
> > > banned
> > > > on many school grounds.
> > > >
> > > > Dimitri
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > WHAT? You're not serious, are you? Especially since I believe if

this
> > > particular person is giving a speech, I would assume that they would

be
> at
> > > college level.
> > > kili

> >
> > The Better Nutrition for School Children Act of 2001
> >
> > C) OPTIONS- In promulgating regulations under subparagraph (B)(ii), the
> > Secretary shall establish such requirements as the Secretary determines

> are
> > appropriate, which may include--
> > `(i) prohibiting the sale, donation, or service without charge of foods

of
> > minimal nutritional value during the covered period on all or part of

> school
> > grounds; or
> > `(ii) permitting States and local school authorities to prohibit the

sale,
> > donation, or service without charge of foods of minimal nutritional

value
> > during the covered period on all or part of school grounds.
> >
> > Dimitri
> >
> >

>
> God, that's amazing! No more Key Club chocolate sales - how about school
> lunches? Do they provide cakes or desserts anymore?


In many areas no. They are also thinking about banning the PTA/O candy
fundraisers as well.

Many schools funded extracurricular activities wigh the soda machine
profits. Do a google search for "junk food schools"

You will be flabbergasted. Here's another case wher the government believes
they need to, well, replace the parent?

Dimitri


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Dimitri wrote:
> Whoops. Not any more - contrary to the opinion of Bill Cosby
> (Himself) cake is now considered by many school boards as Junk Food
> and is therefore banned on many school grounds.


Except this is not "school grounds," it is a university.

--
John Gaughan
http://www.johngaughan.net/

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Dimitri wrote:

> In many areas no. They are also thinking about banning the PTA/O candy
> fundraisers as well.


That might have started in my area ... perhaps thirty miles away,
some poor kid knocked on the door selling stuff for school ... well,
only one home was some disturbed teenager. Found the younger one
in a suitcase, dead. Made people think, is sending kids knocking
on stranger's door such a great idea?

nancy


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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
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> Dimitri wrote:
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> > In many areas no. They are also thinking about banning the PTA/O candy
> > fundraisers as well.

>
> That might have started in my area ... perhaps thirty miles away,
> some poor kid knocked on the door selling stuff for school ... well,
> only one home was some disturbed teenager. Found the younger one
> in a suitcase, dead. Made people think, is sending kids knocking
> on stranger's door such a great idea?
>
> nancy


Most Kids now stand in front of stores with a parent nearby. The door to
door days are almost over unless a parent is on the sidewalk.

What a sad comment on society........

Dimitri


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First, for practice, God created the jackass. When he had perfected
that, he created the school board.

Mark Twain

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John Gaughan had something important to tell us on Thu, 01 Apr 2004
17:58:44 -0600:

>Dimitri wrote:
>> Whoops. Not any more - contrary to the opinion of Bill Cosby
>> (Himself) cake is now considered by many school boards as Junk Food
>> and is therefore banned on many school grounds.

>
>Except this is not "school grounds," it is a university.


Pass around samples! That adds visual interest because you can explain
the differences between say an angelfood cake and a carrot cake and
then people can eat them

--
~Karen AKA Kajikit
Lover of shiny things...

Made as of 2 April 2004 - 61 cards, 28 SB pages (plus 2 small giftbooks), 52 decos & more!

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"John Gaughan" > wrote in message
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> Tomorrow I am giving a speech to test out of one of my college classes.
> It can be on anything I want, so I chose food, specifically, cakes. I am
> going to talk about what makes a cake a cake, basic types of cakes
> (white/yellow, foam, cupcakes) and the differences between them, an
> overview on the types of pans and cooking methods, and give example cake
> types for each (pound cake, carrot cake, angel food, etc).
>
> Does it sound like I am missing anything? The speech is 5-7 minutes
> long, and so far I am more toward the short end. Usually my speeches are
> almost too long. Anyway, I have to get an A on the speech to test out of
> the course.
>
> Are there any interesting nuggets of information I should include? I am
> graded on the presentation, not the content, but any content that peaks
> interest helps the presentation.
>



Bake a cake and bring it with you, for that added 'zing'.

Jack Baker


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On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 23:23:06 GMT, "kilikini"
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>
>God, that's amazing! No more Key Club chocolate sales - how about school
>lunches? Do they provide cakes or desserts anymore?
>kili
>

yes, but they're made of tofu.

your pal,
blake


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Kajikit wrote:
> Pass around samples! That adds visual interest because you can
> explain the differences between say an angelfood cake and a carrot
> cake and then people can eat them


I did not want to look like I was bribing the professor... but it turns
out I did not need to anyway. I scored 100, and I needed 90 to challenge
out of the course. Not only was my presentation superior, everyone loved
the subject material.

--
John Gaughan
http://www.johngaughan.net/

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Dimitri wrote:
> Wedding cake
> http://www.cakesbysam.com/Wedding_Cake_History.htm


Thank you. I did not think of wedding cakes until I saw this link. I
used a few things from that page.

--
John Gaughan
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Dan Levy wrote:
> He found it was a piece of cake.


Someone had to say it...

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"Dimitri" > wrote in message om>...
>> In many areas no. They are also thinking about banning the PTA/O

candy
> fundraisers as well.
>
> Many schools funded extracurricular activities wigh the soda machine
> profits. Do a google search for "junk food schools"
>
> You will be flabbergasted. Here's another case wher the government believes
> they need to, well, replace the parent?
>
> Dimitri


The school my daughter went to before moving to central america was
kind or interesting in the soda machine aspect. The school was making
money off the soda machine but the kids voted to have it removed. The
students asked that is be replaced with a machine that sold bottled
water and PowerAde! The school actually made more money with that
machine then with the soda machine.

Fundraisers were car washes. Very little sales of anything - the one
thing the kids did sell was flower and vegetable seeds for your
garden!

Sandi
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"S.Dunlap" wrote:

> Fundraisers were car washes. Very little sales of anything - the one
> thing the kids did sell was flower and vegetable seeds for your
> garden!


(laughing) I was the budding entreprenuer (not) ... I opened the
package of seeds and tried to sell them indiviually. Get this, the
seeds they gave me to sell (one packet) was for cabbage. Yeah, a
real big seller, especially by the seed.

nancy


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Duck eggs give a yellow cake a brighter yellow color.






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