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Peter Aitken
 
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> wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Dimitri wrote:
>> "aem" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>> >
>> > Dimitri wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Can we say the Gestapo of the church..
>> >>
>> > One hopes not. He was in the Hitler Youth as a youngster, but

> we're
>> > told he was forced into that involuntarily. And later when he was
>> > inducted into the German army, he deserted -- or escaped, or

> however
>> > you want to view it. -aem

>>
>> Actually the point is the Jesuits - usually highly educated but

> somewhat
>> inflexible. (Rigid)
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> Dimitri

>
>
> That fits - Benedict XVI is known to be ultra-conservative (I'd call
> that rigid).
>
> A friend says, "After John-Paul, why not 'George-Ringo?'" At least a
> George-Ringo might be more liberal (IOW, just conservative, not
> ultra-conservative). (A Pope's name is indicative of his adherence to
> the tenets of the faith. I'm not Catholic, so I was hoping for someone
> more aware of the real world. I guess it won't be this one.)
>
> N.
>


I was discussing this with friends and the general consensus was that Benny
was selected because (1) He will follow essentially the same policies as
JP2, and (2) He is old and will not be pope for that long. In other words, a
relatively brief period with a caretaker pope before electing someone who
might want to put his own mark on church policy.


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Dimitri wrote:
> "The Ranger" > wrote in message
> ...
> > The Pope is here.
> >
> > Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger of Germany was elected the 265th pontiff

today
> > by
> > the College of Cardinals. He was announced as tens of thousands of

people
> > cheered in St. Peter's Square. Ratzinger has chosen the name

Benedict XVI,
> > the Vatican announced. The announcement came shortly after white

smoke
> > rose
> > from the Vatican chimney and bells rang to announce that a new pope

had
> > been
> > selected.
> >
> > The Ranger

>
> Just what we need a German Pope - Lets hope he ain't a Jesuit too.
>
>
> Dimitri


Ach... be thankful he settled on Benedict XVI rather than Eichmann II.

Sheldon

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notbob wrote:

>
> From what I've heard so far, the Catholic church is headed backwards
> instead of forwards. He's against women priests, it's the media's
> fault we hear so much about pedophile priests, and I don't see much
> hope for any kind of realistic birth control for the world's Catholic
> population. It would appear the Church's approach is, if ya' can't
> beat 'em, out breed 'em.
>


How silly of me. I thought the reason we were hearing about pedophile priests is
because there were pedophile priests. The newspapers are just publishing the
studies and reporting on the court cases. We have been hearing rumours about it
for years.


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Rusty wrote:

>
> Who knows how long an individual will live, but, the average age of
> death for a pope in the last 250-years (17 previous popes since 1750)
> is 78 years, 123 days.
>
> Benedict XVI is 78 years and 3 days old on April 19, 2005.


I had to wonder about John Paul I. He only lasted 38 days after becoming
pope. Is there some significance to that? Was that God telling the Catholic
Church that they made a bad choice?


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"Peter Aitken" > wrote

> I was discussing this with friends and the general consensus was that
> Benny was selected because (1) He will follow essentially the same
> policies as JP2, and (2) He is old and will not be pope for that long. In
> other words, a relatively brief period with a caretaker pope before
> electing someone who might want to put his own mark on church policy.


Funny, I read sometime back, I mean at least a year ago, that some
analyst said the next pope will be old. Consensus being John Paul II
had far too much time to put his stamp on the church. But, geez, I
didn't think they'd get someone that old and in that physical condition!

nancy




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"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in
> Ranee Mueller > wrote:
>>
>> Why is it that non-Catholics (and Catholics who don't attend church
>> or actually believe in the doctrines of their church) care so much about
>> the direction of the Roman Catholic church?

>
> Shoot, I don't "care" about its direction; I've just been fascinated
> with all the hubbub. And I would have loved to have been a fly on the
> wall in all the private conversations about who to elect. I love church
> politicking. :-0) And it's been pretty tough to avoid the subject of
> the papacy since April 7 or 8. Newspapers have been full of it. TV.
> Regular programming has been halted "to bring you this bulletin from The
> Vatican." It's been all the rage. God help him.


You can't get away from it. It takes up a whole section of my paper.
It's pre-empting tv shows left and right, it's so annoying. Peter Jennings
must be climbing the wall, this is right up his alley to bore people to
death with repetative commentary about some event like this.

Look, the smoke is white. No, it's not, oh bells are ringing.

Very annoying.

nancy


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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> notbob wrote:
>
>>
>> From what I've heard so far, the Catholic church is headed backwards
>> instead of forwards. He's against women priests, it's the media's
>> fault we hear so much about pedophile priests, and I don't see much
>> hope for any kind of realistic birth control for the world's Catholic
>> population. It would appear the Church's approach is, if ya' can't
>> beat 'em, out breed 'em.
>>

>
> How silly of me. I thought the reason we were hearing about pedophile
> priests is
> because there were pedophile priests. The newspapers are just publishing
> the
> studies and reporting on the court cases. We have been hearing rumours
> about it
> for years.
>
>


C'mon, think. His point was that the Pope claims there is no real problem
with pedophile priests, that the media is blowing it out of proportion.


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"Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
. com...
> I was discussing this with friends and the general consensus was that
> Benny was selected because (snip) He is old and will not be pope for that
> long. In other words, a relatively brief period with a caretaker pope
> before electing someone who might want to put his own mark on church
> policy.


Last time they did that they got John XXIII and we all know how that turned
out.

Gabby


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"Gabby" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
> . com...
>> I was discussing this with friends and the general consensus was that
>> Benny was selected because (snip) He is old and will not be pope for
>> that long. In other words, a relatively brief period with a caretaker
>> pope before electing someone who might want to put his own mark on church
>> policy.

>
> Last time they did that they got John XXIII and we all know how that
> turned out.
>
> Gabby
>


I do not know how it turned out so perhaps you can inform us while
explaining how it relates to the current situation..


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On 2005-04-20, Peter Aitken > wrote:

> C'mon, think. His point was that the Pope claims there is no real problem
> with pedophile priests, that the media is blowing it out of proportion.


That's about the size of it. The new pope maintains there are no more
pedophiles in the church population than the general population (about
1%), it just the press sensationalizing the issue. Unfortunately, he
seems to ignore the institutionalized delivery system (altar boys) and
the centuries old coverup mindset that keeps these creeps below the
radar. ......nevermind. Don't get me started.

nb


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notbob wrote:

> That's about the size of it. The new pope maintains there are no more
> pedophiles in the church population than the general population (about
> 1%), it just the press sensationalizing the issue. Unfortunately, he
> seems to ignore the institutionalized delivery system (altar boys) and
> the centuries old coverup mindset that keeps these creeps below the
> radar. ......nevermind. Don't get me started.


What else can you expect when you recruit only from that segment of the male
population that will take a vow of celibacy. IMO, that virtually guarantees a
higher incidents of perverts because they have already indicated a perverse
attitude toward sex and women.


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sf > wrote:

>I've never heard of St. Malachy, but you made me look...
>http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp
>
>So, after Peter the Roman, it's the end of the world or the end of the
>Church?


This happens to be 2 that someone pointed me to.
The second one refers to the first one, which was written before the
chosing was done.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=43690

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=43887

I guess there's thousands more, but I'm not THAT interested.
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kilikini wrote:
>
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> > On Tue 19 Apr 2005 09:08:23p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:55:39 GMT, kilikini wrote:
> >>
> >>> The Ranger wrote:
> >>> > The Pope is here.
> >>> >
> >>> > Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger of Germany was elected the 265th
> >>> pontiff > today by the College of Cardinals. He was announced as
> >>> tens of > thousands of people cheered in St. Peter's Square.
> >>> Ratzinger has > chosen the name Benedict XVI, the Vatican
> >>> announced. The > announcement came shortly after white smoke rose
> >>> from the Vatican > chimney and bells rang to announce that a new
> >>> pope had been > selected.
> >>> >
> >>> > The Ranger
> >>>
> >>> Only one more predicted pope left; Peter the Roman. I've been
> >>> trying to tell my friends that this one was going to be a Benedict
> >>> from the Benedict sect, but no one believed me. Peter the Roman
> >>> is purportedly the next and last one after this Benedict according
> >>> to St. Malachy who has correctly predicted every pope in the
> >>> Catholic Church history from back around 1138.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I've never heard of St. Malachy, but you made me look...
> >> http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp
> >>
> >> So, after Peter the Roman, it's the end of the world or the end of
> >> the Church?

> >
> > I vote for the church.

>
> I do too. Supposedly the church breaks down into groups that "supervise"
> various worldwide divisions instead of a dominant heirarchy.


Ah! The completion of the Protestant Reformation!

About time.

Priscilla
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"Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
. com...
> "Gabby" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
>> . com...
>>> I was discussing this with friends and the general consensus was that
>>> Benny was selected because (snip) He is old and will not be pope for
>>> that long. In other words, a relatively brief period with a caretaker
>>> pope before electing someone who might want to put his own mark on
>>> church policy.

>>
>> Last time they did that they got John XXIII and we all know how that
>> turned out.
>>
>> Gabby
>>

>
> I do not know how it turned out so perhaps you can inform us while
> explaining how it relates to the current situation..


When John XXIII was elected in October 1958, he was 76. They elected him
because the man they really wanted had not yet been made a cardinal. They
pretty much expected Pope John to keep the Seat of Peter warm and then die,
leaving the way clear for the man they had really wanted -- a bishop that
Pope John soon made a cardinal. But, to everyone's surprise, rather than
dying early without accomplishing anything, Pope John summoned the Second
Vatican Council, resulting in the most massive changes in the Church than
the world had known in centuries.

So if an 'interim papacy' was the idea behind the election of Ratzinger to
the Papal office, the college of cardinals might be in for a rude awakening.

Gabby


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Peter Aitken wrote:
> "Gabby" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>"Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
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>>
>>>I was discussing this with friends and the general consensus was that
>>>Benny was selected because (snip) He is old and will not be pope for
>>>that long. In other words, a relatively brief period with a caretaker
>>>pope before electing someone who might want to put his own mark on church
>>>policy.

>>
>>Last time they did that they got John XXIII and we all know how that
>>turned out.
>>
>>Gabby
>>

>
>
> I do not know how it turned out so perhaps you can inform us while
> explaining how it relates to the current situation..
>



Look up "Vatican II" or "Second Vatican Council"

Best regards,
Bob


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"Gabby" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
> . com...
>> "Gabby" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
>>> . com...
>>>> I was discussing this with friends and the general consensus was that
>>>> Benny was selected because (snip) He is old and will not be pope for
>>>> that long. In other words, a relatively brief period with a caretaker
>>>> pope before electing someone who might want to put his own mark on
>>>> church policy.
>>>
>>> Last time they did that they got John XXIII and we all know how that
>>> turned out.
>>>
>>> Gabby
>>>

>>
>> I do not know how it turned out so perhaps you can inform us while
>> explaining how it relates to the current situation..

>
> When John XXIII was elected in October 1958, he was 76. They elected him
> because the man they really wanted had not yet been made a cardinal. They
> pretty much expected Pope John to keep the Seat of Peter warm and then
> die, leaving the way clear for the man they had really wanted -- a bishop
> that Pope John soon made a cardinal. But, to everyone's surprise, rather
> than dying early without accomplishing anything, Pope John summoned the
> Second Vatican Council, resulting in the most massive changes in the
> Church than the world had known in centuries.
>
> So if an 'interim papacy' was the idea behind the election of Ratzinger to
> the Papal office, the college of cardinals might be in for a rude
> awakening.
>
> Gabby



Thanks - i vaguely recall that now.
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I bet Bennedict X got a lot of kidding over his name at brunch.

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"karen" > wrote in message
ups.com...
Forgive me, I'm having a hard time posting with the new computer. I
wanted to quote Dimitri's and Nancy's posts.

I was raised Catholic but lost the faith at maybe around age thirteen.
The last mass I attended was last June, and I still didn't get
anything back from the past. And, I would actually prefer the Latin
mass, rather than some of these lame songs that are sung at mass now.

Somehow, I ended up working at a Jesuit college and got free tuition
there, so had sorted of lived in that milieu from work and classes for
some years. I would never call the Jesuits rigid. The ones I knew
were well-traveled, well-read and all had a sense of humor. I got the
impression that the Jesuits were of a more intellectual branch of the
church.

<snip>

Let me explain a little further their well deserved reputation is that they
are quite strict in the classroom and that is carried over into other areas.
As far as being well read and traveled and highly intelligent I agree
wholeheartedly. IMHO the education they impart is second to none.



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On Wed 20 Apr 2005 02:38:37p, Dimitri wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "karen" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> Forgive me, I'm having a hard time posting with the new computer. I
> wanted to quote Dimitri's and Nancy's posts.
>
> I was raised Catholic but lost the faith at maybe around age thirteen.
> The last mass I attended was last June, and I still didn't get
> anything back from the past. And, I would actually prefer the Latin
> mass, rather than some of these lame songs that are sung at mass now.
>
> Somehow, I ended up working at a Jesuit college and got free tuition
> there, so had sorted of lived in that milieu from work and classes for
> some years. I would never call the Jesuits rigid. The ones I knew
> were well-traveled, well-read and all had a sense of humor. I got the
> impression that the Jesuits were of a more intellectual branch of the
> church.
>
> <snip>
>
> Let me explain a little further their well deserved reputation is that
> they are quite strict in the classroom and that is carried over into
> other areas. As far as being well read and traveled and highly
> intelligent I agree wholeheartedly. IMHO the education they impart is
> second to none.


Having done all my undergraduate and graduate studies at Georgetown U., I
second that in every way.

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Wayne Boatwright
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aem wrote:
> 3. It might actually matter who the Pope is and what he tells his
> followers to believe.


He says "jump" they (or at least many) say "how high?". It affects
people's attitudes, their lifestyles and most importantly (to the
outsider) their votes.

-L.



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Gabby wrote:
> "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
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Interesting discourse that has nothing to do with r.f.c So, tell me,
does he eat Kosher? What is a typical papal breakfast? Do they only
serve Italian wines, or do the wines mostly represent the areas they
grew up in?

How do they fell about chili-cheese dogs? Plain bun of poppyseed?

Of course, you could take it to e-mail.


jim
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Sheldon wrote:
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> Ach... be thankful he settled on Benedict XVI rather than Eichmann

II.
>
> Sheldon





BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!! You are soooo b-a-a-a-a-d!!!

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On Wed 20 Apr 2005 11:47:47p, JimLane wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Gabby wrote:
>> "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
>> . com...

>
>
> Interesting discourse that has nothing to do with r.f.c So, tell me,
> does he eat Kosher? What is a typical papal breakfast? Do they only
> serve Italian wines, or do the wines mostly represent the areas they
> grew up in?
>
> How do they fell about chili-cheese dogs? Plain bun of poppyseed?
>
> Of course, you could take it to e-mail.
>
>
> jim
> ;->


Most people in rfc know that I'm usually opposed to off topic posts here,
but this thread seems to be of general interest to quite a few regular
rfc'ers.

The subject of the thread couldn't be more clear. It would be easy for
anyone to avoid the subject if they had no interest.

Of course, you could just read another group!

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In article >, Dave Smith > wrote:
>Rusty wrote:
>
>> Who knows how long an individual will live, but, the average age of
>> death for a pope in the last 250-years (17 previous popes since 1750)
>> is 78 years, 123 days.
>>
>> Benedict XVI is 78 years and 3 days old on April 19, 2005.

>
>I had to wonder about John Paul I. He only lasted 38 days after becoming
>pope. Is there some significance to that? Was that God telling the Catholic
>Church that they made a bad choice?


Nope. According to the conspiracy theorists around here, he got
pushed off the twig because he'd stumbled on the "other" set of books
of Vatican finances.

Cheers, Phred.

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>Dimitri wrote:
>>
>> Just what we need a German Pope - Lets hope he ain't a Jesuit too.

>
>Ach... be thankful he settled on Benedict XVI rather than Eichmann II.


Around here it's being seen as the start of the Fourth Reich. ;-)


Cheers, Phred.

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JimLane > wrote:

> Interesting discourse that has nothing to do with r.f.c So, tell me,
> does he eat Kosher? What is a typical papal breakfast? Do they only
> serve Italian wines, or do the wines mostly represent the areas they
> grew up in?


*chuckle*

>
> How do they fell about chili-cheese dogs? Plain bun of poppyseed?


"Wieners, in buns, no condiments. It's Hank's way. Anything else is
wrong."

( http://www.jhuger.com/kisshank.php )

serene
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Gabby wrote:


>
> When John XXIII was elected in October 1958, he was 76. They elected him
> because the man they really wanted had not yet been made a cardinal. They



I was suprised to read a few weeks ago that a Pope does not have to be
chosen from among the cardinals. There was a procedure specified for
cases where that might happen. Apparantly the last time it happened was
~600 years ago.




> pretty much expected Pope John to keep the Seat of Peter warm and then die,
> leaving the way clear for the man they had really wanted -- a bishop that
> Pope John soon made a cardinal. But, to everyone's surprise, rather than
> dying early without accomplishing anything, Pope John summoned the Second
> Vatican Council, resulting in the most massive changes in the Church than
> the world had known in centuries.
>
> So if an 'interim papacy' was the idea behind the election of Ratzinger to
> the Papal office, the college of cardinals might be in for a rude awakening.
>
> Gabby
>
>

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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
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> Funny, I read sometime back, I mean at least a year ago, that some
> analyst said the next pope will be old.


What's old? None of the cardinals are in their 30's are they? 40's? OTOH,
you do NOT have to be a cardinal to be elected pope. I was sort of hoping
myself, but I'm told my name never came up in the voting.


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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
>
>>Funny, I read sometime back, I mean at least a year ago, that some
>>analyst said the next pope will be old.

>
>
> What's old? None of the cardinals are in their 30's are they? 40's? OTOH,
> you do NOT have to be a cardinal to be elected pope. I was sort of hoping
> myself, but I'm told my name never came up in the voting.
>
>



Really? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I voted for you.

gloria p
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"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
m...
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
>>
>> Funny, I read sometime back, I mean at least a year ago, that some
>> analyst said the next pope will be old.

>
> What's old? None of the cardinals are in their 30's are they? 40's?
> OTOH, you do NOT have to be a cardinal to be elected pope. I was sort of
> hoping myself, but I'm told my name never came up in the voting.


I thought I saw it, but they might have been saying, Ed's too old.

Just goofing around, I just thought it was amusing that I had read
that and sure enough, he's on his last legs. He even calls himself
an interim pope.

nancy




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"Puester" > wrote in message .
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>>

>
>
> Really? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I voted for you.
>
> gloria p


Thanks, but I guess you were the only one. Figured if I got the job I could
modernize the church and bring it up to the 18th century. Besides. I like
Italian food.


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On Fri 22 Apr 2005 07:41:49p, Edwin Pawlowski wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "Puester" > wrote in message .
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> Really? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I voted for you.
>>
>> gloria p

>
> Thanks, but I guess you were the only one. Figured if I got the job I
> could modernize the church and bring it up to the 18th century.
> Besides. I like Italian food.


Then you certainly had all the prerequisites, Ed! What name would you have
picked?

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Fri 22 Apr 2005 07:41:49p, Edwin Pawlowski wrote in

rec.food.cooking:
>
> >
> > "Puester" > wrote in message .
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Really? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I voted for you.
> >>
> >> gloria p

> >
> > Thanks, but I guess you were the only one. Figured if I got the

job I
> > could modernize the church and bring it up to the 18th century.
> > Besides. I like Italian food.

>
> Then you certainly had all the prerequisites, Ed! What name would

you have
> picked?
>




I kinda like "Pope Pawl" and "Pope Pawli" ain't bad either. Yuk, yuk,
yuk.

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On Fri 22 Apr 2005 09:34:09p, itsjoannotjoann wrote in rec.food.cooking:

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> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Fri 22 Apr 2005 07:41:49p, Edwin Pawlowski wrote in
>> rec.food.cooking:
>>
>> >
>> > "Puester" > wrote in message .
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Really? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I voted for you.
>> >>
>> >> gloria p
>> >
>> > Thanks, but I guess you were the only one. Figured if I got the job
>> > I could modernize the church and bring it up to the 18th century.
>> > Besides. I like Italian food.

>>
>> Then you certainly had all the prerequisites, Ed! What name would you
>> have picked?
>>

>
>
>
> I kinda like "Pope Pawl" and "Pope Pawli" ain't bad either. Yuk, yuk,
> yuk.


I kinda prefer "Pope Pawli" myself. Sounds a little more down to earth.
<g> That would be "Pope Pawli I", right?

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itsjoannotjoann wrote:

> I kinda like "Pope Pawl" and "Pope Pawli" ain't bad either. Yuk, yuk,
> yuk.


Or to bring it into the cooking realm, "Pope Piah".

Bob




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"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in
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> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
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>> Funny, I read sometime back, I mean at least a year ago, that
>> some analyst said the next pope will be old.

>
> What's old? None of the cardinals are in their 30's are they?
> 40's? OTOH, you do NOT have to be a cardinal to be elected pope.


In fact, you don't even have to be a priest. Also you don't need to
be a priest to be a cardinal or a bishop. Bishops were lords of
ecclesiastical counties, essentially counts, and their authority,
until rcently, rerived from the monarchy, not the papacy. Same with
cardinals. The most famous cardinal, Richelieu, was not a priest,
although his successor, Mazarin, was. And how many popes were not
priests? Quite a few, starting with Peter and going up to the
Borgias :-)

Keep in mind that the status of the Pope was not defined as dogma
until Vatican I (1869-1870). And until then, the doctrine of
infallibility was not even hinted at.

Does anyone remember Donovan Leitch's song, Take a Poke at the Pope?

Have you ever seen a picture of Pope Paul?
Have you ever asked yourself this question:
would you trust this man with your soul now?
Would you trust this man, ask yourself now.
His eyes are sunken, his cheeks are hollow
While you poor the poor of the world, they follow
He hoarded up their gold in the Vatican.
Would you trust this man, ask yourself now.

A poke at the pope, that's what we're having
A poke at the pope, that's what we're having
Ave Maria, Ave Maria

*sigh* Good times...

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How amazingly unlikely is your birth
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down 'ere on Earth!

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Wayne Boatwright wrote on 22 Apr 2005 in rec.food.cooking

> On Fri 22 Apr 2005 09:34:09p, itsjoannotjoann wrote in
> rec.food.cooking:
>
> >
> > Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> >> On Fri 22 Apr 2005 07:41:49p, Edwin Pawlowski wrote in
> >> rec.food.cooking:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > "Puester" > wrote in message .
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Really? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I voted for you.
> >> >>
> >> >> gloria p
> >> >
> >> > Thanks, but I guess you were the only one. Figured if I got
> >> > the job I could modernize the church and bring it up to the
> >> > 18th century. Besides. I like Italian food.
> >>
> >> Then you certainly had all the prerequisites, Ed! What name
> >> would you have picked?
> >>

> >
> >
> >
> > I kinda like "Pope Pawl" and "Pope Pawli" ain't bad either.
> > Yuk, yuk, yuk.

>
> I kinda prefer "Pope Pawli" myself. Sounds a little more down to
> earth. <g> That would be "Pope Pawli I", right?
>


If you're gonna modernize anyways...try Guido.

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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
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>> I kinda like "Pope Pawl" and "Pope Pawli" ain't bad either. Yuk, yuk,
>> yuk.

>
> I kinda prefer "Pope Pawli" myself. Sounds a little more down to earth.
> <g> That would be "Pope Pawli I", right?
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright *¿*


I like the name suggestions.

My first plan was to change communion from that tiny wafer to something more
substantial. I'm thing Foccocia (with some cheese and herbs) and a glass of
Chianti.

New Popemobile will be a yellow Lamborghini.


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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
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>>> I kinda like "Pope Pawl" and "Pope Pawli" ain't bad either. Yuk,
>>> yuk, yuk.

>>
>> I kinda prefer "Pope Pawli" myself. Sounds a little more down to
>> earth. <g> That would be "Pope Pawli I", right?
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright *¿*

>
> I like the name suggestions.
>
> My first plan was to change communion from that tiny wafer to
> something more substantial. I'm thing Foccocia (with some cheese and
> herbs) and a glass of Chianti.
>
> New Popemobile will be a yellow Lamborghini.


ROFL. oh god, that's too funny. LOL

kili


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"kilikini" > wrote in message
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>> New Popemobile will be a yellow Lamborghini.

>
> ROFL. oh god, that's too funny. LOL
>
> kili


No funny Kili, lots of serious work to do. Did you see all those old
buildings over there? Some aluminum siding would certainly spruce up the
neighborhood. Not to mentions some fresh asphalt over those old uneven
bricks in the square.

Al the burning candles are sooting up the walls and ceilings in the church.
They all need a couple of coats of good latex paint. Semi-gloss washes
better IMO.


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