BOB wrote:
> "Karen AKA Kajikit" > wrote in message
>
> > I know it's a bit early, but better sooner than in a last minute
> > rush
> > with everyone else! I don't think it will hurt the tinned food to
> > sit
> > in our cupboard for an extra month or so! John never bothered with
> > any
> > of this, but I believe in better safe than sorry - he never
expected
> > four hurricanes in a season either!
> >
> > I bought a BIG plastic tub on the weekend to store everything. I
> > plan
> > to fill it with a week's supply of food for two adults, and
whatever
> > else we need for an emergency situation.
> >
> > My thoughts on this a
> > BIG bags of dry catfood and litter (obviously not IN the box but we
> > need it... have to look after the furbabies)
> > Water bottles (how many gallons?)
> > candles and waterproof matches (how many is enough?)
> > couple of torches
> > Batteries (how many packs is reasonable?)
> > battery-powered radio
>
> Water
> A generator capable of powering your refrigerator and freezer (I
> bought one after Charlie visited last year) and computer and
> associated internet connection hardware.

Last year, w/in 2 weeks of moving to Puerto Rico, a tropical storm
knocked out all power and water for a while. Thank GOD we had kept the
laptop battery charged, it was our only source of info for a while as
the tv and radio werent really working. We still had a Compuserve
account and were able to dialup and check the news .

> A supply of gas to power the generator


> That freezer should be full
> A (or several) charcoal BBQ grills (one of mine was used constantly
> for 36 hours by the whole neighborhood)

Everyone here has propane grills with the little stove burner attached,
so yo can cook rice or beans or pancakes or something.

CAUTION---It is unwise to look into the L.E.D.(Light Emitting
Diodes),they are very bright and can damage your eyes.Never,ever let
kids play with them.If you plan to purchase one,get one with at least 7
L.E.D.'s,more is better.

Doug Perkins wrote:
> CAUTION---It is unwise to look into the L.E.D.(Light Emitting
> Diodes),they are very bright and can damage your eyes.Never,ever let
> kids play with them.


I think you've confused LED lights with LASER lights

Wed, Apr 27, 2005 (Karen=A0AKA=A0Kajikit)WROTE:
=A0=A0I know it's a bit early, but better sooner than in a last minute
rush with everyone else! I don't think it will hurt the tinned food to
sit in our cupboard for an extra month or so! John never bothered with
any of this, but I believe in better safe than sorry - he never expected
four hurricanes in a season either!
I bought a BIG plastic tub on the weekend to store everything. I plan to
fill it with a week's supply of food for two adults, and whatever else
we need for an emergency situation.
My thoughts on this a
BIG bags of dry catfood and litter (obviously not IN the box but we need
it... have to look after the furbabies) Water bottles (how many
gallons?)
candles and waterproof matches (how many is enough?) couple of torches
Batteries (how many packs is reasonable?) battery-powered radio
FOOD:
Canned tuna
Canned fruit
Canned beetroot and sweetcorn
Longlife milk
Longlife juice
What else???
~Karen aka Kajikit----------------------------------------------
RESPONSE: If you live near a Mormon church - yes they are down in the
South too- ask to attend their food storage classes.
Very helpful people in that area & most won't try to get you to join the
church upon taking any classes.
My ex b/f's family was mormon & I attended briefly which I did take the
food storage class.

Karen AKA Kajikit wrote:
> I know it's a bit early, but better sooner than in a last minute rush
> with everyone else! I don't think it will hurt the tinned food to sit
> in our cupboard for an extra month or so! John never bothered with
any
> of this, but I believe in better safe than sorry - he never expected
> four hurricanes in a season either!
>
> I bought a BIG plastic tub on the weekend to store everything. I plan
> to fill it with a week's supply of food for two adults, and whatever
> else we need for an emergency situation.
>
> My thoughts on this a
> BIG bags of dry catfood and litter (obviously not IN the box but we
> need it... have to look after the furbabies)
> Water bottles (how many gallons?)
> candles and waterproof matches (how many is enough?)
> couple of torches
> Batteries (how many packs is reasonable?)
> battery-powered radio
>
> FOOD:
> Canned tuna
> Canned fruit
> Canned beetroot and sweetcorn
> Longlife milk
> Longlife juice
>
> What else???

Right now, stick the phone numbers of the two (2) nearest ice houses
that sell dry ice to your fridge... first thing tomorrow learn their
locations.

Sheldon

> What else???



Keep your supplies in containers that float. Tie them together with a good
length of rope, using the excess as a tether to a tree or other immobile
object.

Andy

Andy wrote:
> > What else???
>
>
>
> Keep your supplies in containers that float. Tie them together with a
good
> length of rope, using the excess as a tether to a tree or other
immobile
> object.

Yeah, right... during a hurricane get under a tree... IDIOT! Um, it's
a "hurricane", not white water rafting. Anyone living in low lying
areas had best get their butts to higher ground, and fast... if you
stay where you need to worry about your food washing away you best
worry more about drowning.

Sheldon

"Sheldon" > wrote in news:1115042729.467482.185620
@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:

>
> Andy wrote:
>> > What else???
>>
>>
>>
>> Keep your supplies in containers that float. Tie them together with a
> good
>> length of rope, using the excess as a tether to a tree or other
> immobile
>> object.
>
> Yeah, right... during a hurricane get under a tree... IDIOT! Um, it's
> a "hurricane", not white water rafting. Anyone living in low lying
> areas had best get their butts to higher ground, and fast... if you
> stay where you need to worry about your food washing away you best
> worry more about drowning.
>
> Sheldon


Having a wealth of supplies is great, but the unknowns of a hurricane
dictate that the best hope is knowing where your supplies are, before,
during and after.

Andy


--
"What can possibly go wrong... go wrong... go wrong..."
- Pop

Andy wrote:
> "Sheldon" wrote:
> >
> > Andy wrote:
> >>
> >> Keep your supplies in containers that float. Tie them together
with a
> > good
> >> length of rope, using the excess as a tether to a tree.
> >
> > Yeah, right... during a hurricane get under a tree... IDIOT! Um,
it's
> > a "hurricane", not white water rafting. Anyone living in low lying
> > areas had best get their butts to higher ground, and fast... if you
> > stay where you need to worry about your food washing away you best
> > worry more about drowning.
> >
> > Sheldon
>
>
> Having a wealth of supplies is great, but the unknowns of a hurricane

> dictate that the best hope is knowing where your supplies are,
before,
> during and after.

Your supplies are tied to that friggin' tree that blew down and bashed
your numb skull in... have you ever experienced a hurricane... thought
not.

"Sheldon" > wrote in news:1115054743.765451.289160
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

> Your supplies are tied to that friggin' tree that blew down and bashed
> your numb skull in... have you ever experienced a hurricane... thought
> not.


Moron-ON sheldon.

Sheldon wrote:
> Andy wrote:
>>> What else???
>>
>>
>>
>> Keep your supplies in containers that float. Tie them together with
>> a good
>> length of rope, using the excess as a tether to a tree or other
>> immobile
>> object.
>
> Yeah, right... during a hurricane get under a tree... IDIOT! Um,
> it's
> a "hurricane", not white water rafting. Anyone living in low lying
> areas had best get their butts to higher ground, and fast... if you
> stay where you need to worry about your food washing away you best
> worry more about drowning.
>
> Sheldon

I'm guessing that "Andy" has never been anywhere near any type of
tropical storms.

BOB

Andy wrote:
> > What else???
>
>
>
> Keep your supplies in containers that float. Tie them together with a
good
> length of rope, using the excess as a tether to a tree or other
immobile
> object.
>
> Andy

Trees are NOT immobile in hurricanes.

"nina" > wrote in news:1115073893.758995.241380
@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

>
> Andy wrote:
>> > What else???
>>
>>
>>
>> Keep your supplies in containers that float. Tie them together with a
> good
>> length of rope, using the excess as a tether to a tree or other
> immobile
>> object.
>>
>> Andy
>
> Trees are NOT immobile in hurricanes.


Good grief.

Glad I don't have to worry about saving you.

Andy

--
"What can possibly go wrong... go wrong... go wrong..."
- Pop

Andy wrote:
> "nina" > wrote in news:1115073893.758995.241380
> @l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
>
>>
>> Andy wrote:
>>>> What else???
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Keep your supplies in containers that float. Tie them together
>>> with a good
>>> length of rope, using the excess as a tether to a tree or other
>>> immobile
>>> object.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>
>> Trees are NOT immobile in hurricanes.
>
>
> Good grief.
>
> Glad I don't have to worry about saving you.
>
> Andy
>

Have you ever been anywhere near a hurricane? Or even a large
tropical storm?

I thought not.

BOB

" BOB" > wrote in news:5Eyde.149599$UW6.38061
@bignews5.bellsouth.net:

> Have you ever been anywhere near a hurricane? Or even a large
> tropical storm?
>
>

Doesx Boynton Beach count?

" BOB" > wrote in news:5Eyde.149599$UW6.38061
@bignews5.bellsouth.net:

>
>
> Andy wrote:
>> "nina" > wrote in news:1115073893.758995.241380
>> @l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>>
>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>> What else???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Keep your supplies in containers that float. Tie them together
>>>> with a good
>>>> length of rope, using the excess as a tether to a tree or other
>>>> immobile
>>>> object.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>
>>> Trees are NOT immobile in hurricanes.
>>
>>
>> Good grief.
>>
>> Glad I don't have to worry about saving you.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>
> Have you ever been anywhere near a hurricane? Or even a large
> tropical storm?
>
> I thought not.
>
> BOB


You know, BOB, and your likes,

Do you really have a hurricane plan??? Fess up. Don't be a moron about a
serious issue. What's your plan?

Andy



--
"What can possibly go wrong... go wrong... go wrong..."
- Pop

Andy wrote:
> " BOB" > wrote in news:5Eyde.149599$UW6.38061
> @bignews5.bellsouth.net:
>
>> Have you ever been anywhere near a hurricane? Or even a large
>> tropical storm?
>>
>>
>
> Doesx Boynton Beach count?

Not if you think trees would offer any protection in a hurricane. You
must have slept through.

BOB

Andy wrote:

> You know, BOB, and your likes,
>
> Do you really have a hurricane plan??? Fess up. Don't be a moron
> about a
> serious issue. What's your plan?
>
> Andy

As a matter of fact, yes I do. It's very flexible, and it worked 4
times last year.
Of course, each of the *FOUR* times last year was completely
different.
Watch the weather for latest updates. Have everything ready to
evacuate just in case. Decide where to go *IF* evacuation is
necessary.

BOB
read my first answer in this thread to the OP

Andy wrote:
> "nina" > wrote in news:1115073893.758995.241380
> @l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
>
> >
> > Andy wrote:
> >> > What else???
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Keep your supplies in containers that float. Tie them together
with a
> > good
> >> length of rope, using the excess as a tether to a tree or other
> > immobile
> >> object.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >
> > Trees are NOT immobile in hurricanes.
>
>
> Good grief.
>
> Glad I don't have to worry about saving you.
>
> Andy

We lost a lot of coconut palms and some mango trees here in the
tropical storm. They were plucked from the ground like dandelions. I
dont even want to imagine an actual hurricane.
>
> --
> "What can possibly go wrong... go wrong... go wrong..."
> - Pop

nina wrote:
> Andy wrote:
> > "nina" > wrote in news:1115073893.758995.241380
> > @l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
> >
> > >
> > > Andy wrote:
> > >> > What else???
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Keep your supplies in containers that float. Tie them together
> with a
> > > good
> > >> length of rope, using the excess as a tether to a tree or other
> > > immobile
> > >> object.
> > >>
> > >> Andy
> > >
> > > Trees are NOT immobile in hurricanes.
> >
> >
> > Good grief.
> >
> > Glad I don't have to worry about saving you.
> >
> > Andy
>
> We lost a lot of coconut palms and some mango trees here in the
> tropical storm. They were plucked from the ground like dandelions. I
> dont even want to imagine an actual hurricane.

My house in Shoreham, Lung Guyland was attacked by Hurricane Gloria,
the little hollow of homes where I lived I learned later was ground
zero for Gloria.. I lost 15 massive oaks and locust (by massive I mean
trees near a hundred feet tall with trunks 4-5 feet in diameter),
snapped off near ground level like so many toothpics, was such a mass
of splintered hardwood couldn't see the house from the road. One
slammed right across my driveway, took out a brand new Honda Accord,
poor thing was squished to half it's height, all four tires were blow
outs. Fortunately the house only suffered a few damamged shingles and
the front gutter was torn from the eaves. But no power, no phone, and
no water for two full weeks. Since I knew she was coming the day
before I made a run to the ice house in Riverhead and stocked up on
blocks of dry ice (kept the food in both fridges perfect for a full
week, even the freezer sections stayed frozen solid. I had a humongous
brick grill in my backyard, which turned into the neighborhood
kitchen... everyone brought food and charcoal... there was so much food
that rather than waste it the neighborhood dogs and cats were eating
grilled steaks, shrimp, and lobster tails. I survived many Lung Guyland
hurricanes but Gloria was the worst. Tying containers of food to trees
during a hurricane is the stupidest thing.

Sheldon

> Sheldon

BORING.


PEOPLE... what part of "or other immobile object" didn't you understand?
Where would you anchor your supplies?

Andy

--
"What can possibly go wrong... go wrong... go wrong..."
- Pop

Andy wrote:
> > Sheldon
>
> BORING.
>
>
> PEOPLE... what part of "or other immobile object" didn't you
understand?
> Where would you anchor your supplies?
>
> Andy
The wording makes it seem that you consider a tree to be immobile
object also.
I was saying a tree isnt immoble. In a hurricane, what is?

Andy wrote:

> Where would you anchor your supplies?
In the trunk of a car that you drive AWAY from the storm area.

nina wrote:
> Andy wrote:
>>
>> PEOPLE... what part of "or other immobile object" didn't you
>> understand? Where would you anchor your supplies?
>>
>> Andy
>
> The wording makes it seem that you consider a tree to be immobile
> object also. I was saying a tree isnt immoble. In a hurricane, what
> is?



A concrete block building is immobile -- but it can still flood or have
the roof blown off. HTH :-)

Bob

zxcvbob wrote:
> nina wrote:
> > Andy wrote:
> >>
> >> PEOPLE... what part of "or other immobile object" didn't you
> >> understand? Where would you anchor your supplies?
> >>
> >> Andy
> >
> > The wording makes it seem that you consider a tree to be immobile
> > object also. I was saying a tree isnt immoble. In a hurricane, what

> > is?
>
>
>
> A concrete block building is immobile -- but it can still flood or
have
> the roof blown off. HTH :-)
>
> Bob

Not true. I've seen hurricanes turn many masonary block buildings into
a pile of rubble like so many Leggos... in fact the more ridgid the
structure the more likely it will be blown away.

With surviving hurricanes there are too many variables, each instance
requires decisons based on many different factors... but if there is
any chance your structure will get blown away or become flooded then
the best thing is to depart inland to higher ground... and in the US
the very last thing you need to take with you is food. Tying your food
to a tree is something only a deranged mental midget would conjure
up... because if you are going to remain on the premises then the best
place for food (and everything else) is exactly where you normally keep
it... there is far more chance you will become blown away or drown well
before anything happens to your fridge. Really, if remaining at home
the only thing you need to concern yourself with is having a supply of
water... both potable and for flushing toilets... at the first warning
fill your bathtubs, buckets, and large cook pots. And have your
vehicles fully gassed. Like I said, food is the very last thing to be
concerned with... there is nowhere in the US within a two hour drive of
hurricane areas where one can't find all the food they could possibly
want... anyone who can't last two hours without stuffing their face has
much bigger problems than surviving a little wind. "Andy" is the
second most common name for institutionalized psychotics, Albert is
first.

Sheldon

zxcvbob wrote:
> nina wrote:
> > Andy wrote:
> >>
> >> PEOPLE... what part of "or other immobile object" didn't you
> >> understand? Where would you anchor your supplies?
> >>
> >> Andy
> >
> > The wording makes it seem that you consider a tree to be immobile
> > object also. I was saying a tree isnt immoble. In a hurricane, what

> > is?
>
>
>
> A concrete block building is immobile -- but it can still flood or
have
> the roof blown off. HTH :-)
>
> Bob


I live in a house like that. It looks like a white square igloo. Hope
its sturdy.
OTOH, I have seen a few houses here that got abused. Not by the winds
so much as the water and falling coconut trees. First the trees SMASH
the house, then the water WASHES the rubble away.
Why am I scaring myself?? Sheesh.

Sheldon wrote:
> zxcvbob wrote:
> > nina wrote:
> > > Andy wrote:
> > >>
> > >> PEOPLE... what part of "or other immobile object" didn't you
> > >> understand? Where would you anchor your supplies?
> > >>
> > >> Andy
> > >
> > > The wording makes it seem that you consider a tree to be immobile
> > > object also. I was saying a tree isnt immoble. In a hurricane,
what
>
> > > is?
> >
> >
> >
> > A concrete block building is immobile -- but it can still flood or
> have
> > the roof blown off. HTH :-)
> >
> > Bob
>
> Not true. I've seen hurricanes turn many masonary block buildings
into
> a pile of rubble like so many Leggos... in fact the more ridgid the
> structure the more likely it will be blown away.
>

I read something from the South Pacific, the locals lived in houses of
what looked like bamboo and palm leaf cylinders on stilts. They said
those lasted way better than brick houses.
Drat. I cant remember if its hurricane or earthquakes they withstand.

> With surviving hurricanes there are too many variables, each instance
> requires decisons based on many different factors... but if there is
> any chance your structure will get blown away or become flooded then
> the best thing is to depart inland to higher ground... and in the US
> the very last thing you need to take with you is food. Tying your
food
> to a tree is something only a deranged mental midget would conjure
> up... because if you are going to remain on the premises then the
best
> place for food (and everything else) is exactly where you normally
keep
> it... there is far more chance you will become blown away or drown
well
> before anything happens to your fridge. Really, if remaining at home
> the only thing you need to concern yourself with is having a supply
of
> water... both potable and for flushing toilets... at the first
warning
> fill your bathtubs, buckets, and large cook pots. And have your
> vehicles fully gassed. Like I said, food is the very last thing to
be
> concerned with... there is nowhere in the US within a two hour drive
of
> hurricane areas where one can't find all the food they could possibly
> want... anyone who can't last two hours without stuffing their face
has
> much bigger problems than surviving a little wind. "Andy" is the
> second most common name for institutionalized psychotics, Albert is
> first.
>
> Sheldon

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:21:05 -0400, Karen AKA Kajikit
> wrote:

> I know it's a bit early, but better sooner than in a last minute rush
>with everyone else! I don't think it will hurt the tinned food to sit
>in our cupboard for an extra month or so! John never bothered with any
>of this, but I believe in better safe than sorry - he never expected
>four hurricanes in a season either!
>
>I bought a BIG plastic tub on the weekend to store everything. I plan
>to fill it with a week's supply of food for two adults, and whatever
>else we need for an emergency situation.
>
>My thoughts on this a
>BIG bags of dry catfood and litter (obviously not IN the box but we
>need it... have to look after the furbabies)
>Water bottles (how many gallons?)
>candles and waterproof matches (how many is enough?)
>couple of torches
>Batteries (how many packs is reasonable?)
>battery-powered radio
>
>FOOD:
>Canned tuna
>Canned fruit
>Canned beetroot and sweetcorn
>Longlife milk
>Longlife juice
>
>What else???
>
>~Karen aka Kajikit
>Crafts, cats, and chocolate - the three essentials of life
>http://www.kajikitscorner.com
>*remove 'nospam' to reply


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