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On 6 May 2005 19:31:42 -0700, "Damsel in dis Dress"
> connected the dots and wrote: ~Goomba38 wrote: ~> ~> Neurosurgeons often tell patients they won't do ~> elective surgeries if the patient is still smoking, as the outcomes ~are ~> much less successful. If one has the time and inclination to quit it ~> will lower their surgical and post op risks. ~ ~I'll pass this along to Crash. Hopefully he's still in touch with ~recent problems and will want to avoid any future complications. It's ~curious that the only doctor who has ever mentioned smoking was the ~surgeon who did my reconstructive surgery. No one has ever counseled ~Crash not to smoke when he has had previous surgeries (we go to all ~medical appointments together, so I know it's not just that Crash ~hasn't 'fessed up). I hope he'll listen. ~ If not, tell him the unpleasantness of quitting for a few weeks will be nothing compared to the downright nastiness of recouperating if he doesn't quit. My friend's gallbladder operation was supposed to be an easy-in-easy-out one, and she ended up in hospital for 3 weeks afterwards. When she started getting pains again, the doctor thought that rather than deal the anesthesia again, he'd break up the stones in her kidneys with the laser. She died 5 months later, with shotgun pellet cancer all over her body, radiating out from her kidneys. maxine in ri ~Carol |
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On Sat, 07 May 2005 14:08:28 GMT, Monsur Fromage du Pollet
> wrote: >Melba's Jammin' wrote on 07 May 2005 in rec.food.cooking > >> In article >, Terry >> Pulliam Burd > wrote: >> >> > On 4 May 2005 20:23:52 -0700, "Damsel in dis Dress" >> > > wrote: >> > >> > <snip> >> > >> > > We have quit-smoking patches, but he won't quit >> > >until after his surgery. >> > >> > OMG, Dams...I have back surgery in my future (putting it off >> > until I can't stand the pain anymore) and my doc said smokers >> > are the hardest hit by major surgery. I don't smoke, but the DH >> > does and he told the DH that when I have to have the spinal >> > fusion, even *he* has to quit smoking long beforehand, even >> > though he never smokes in the house or car. >> >> >> Interesting. I wonder why. The Widow Geraldine is having back >> surgery on Monday and she's a heavy smoker. I wonder if the doc >> told her to quit. Like it would carry any sway with her. :-/ > >Up here there are several Doctors (GPs) who won't treat people who >smoke. They insisted their patents quit and those that didn't needed to >find a new Doctor. I'm guessing these doctors are members of the >smoking Nazis. (Those people who refuse to give smokers even some >rights and persecute smokers to the max). I don't smoke anymore and >feel those that do smoke should have some rights. >-- Although I am puzzled that GPs would refuse to take on smokers as patients, I'm not really sympathetic to smokers. They had it good for a looooong time, with absolutely no regard for non-smokers. None at all. The worm has turned. I can't imagine what kind of rights smokers should have besides the right to foul up their own environment; it's not like smoke stays in one place. And really, if a hostile environment encourages people to quit (or not start), it's better for them as well. The younger smokers who have not grown up with the idea that they have "rights" as smokers are much more accepting of the situation. Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! |
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In article >, blake murphy
> wrote: > well, yes, doctor, i still smoke and drink and sometimes beat my meat. > sorry if this means you can't be bothered with me. why are you still > an asshole? > > your pal, > blake > Well, where have YOU been? You've been missed. -- -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> Sam I Am! 5/3/05 |
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One time on Usenet, "Damsel in dis Dress" > said:
<snip> > He's back to being Crash today. When we woke up this afternoon, I > looked at him and said, "Welcome back!" Those patches were really > doing a number on him. My mother had to use pain patches when she was dying from lung cancer, as did a dear friend with bone cancer. Neither of them were at all like themselves -- the friend is in remission now and off of the patches; she seems ten years younger. > He didn't have burning of the skin, btw. He was literally setting his > pants on fire with lit cigarettes. But his face was drenched with > sweat that came back as fast as we could blot it away. Now all is > well. He's in pain, but he's a person again, and all of us (including > the dogs and cat) are very grateful for that. > > Gotta run and pick up some prescriptions. I hope to have more good > news as the weekend progresses. Glad to hear things are improving, Carol -- keep a good thought, I know everything will be okay in the end... :-) -- Jani in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~ "The ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't" - D. Adams, HGTTG |
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One time on Usenet, Melba's Jammin' > said:
> In article >, blake murphy > > wrote: > > > well, yes, doctor, i still smoke and drink and sometimes beat my meat. > > sorry if this means you can't be bothered with me. why are you still > > an asshole? > > > > your pal, > > blake > > > > Well, where have YOU been? You've been missed. My thought exactly! -- Jani in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~ "The ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't" - D. Adams, HGTTG |
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Monsur Fromage du Pollet wrote:
> Melba's Jammin' wrote on 07 May 2005 in rec.food.cooking > > >>In article >, Terry >>Pulliam Burd > wrote: >> >> >>>On 4 May 2005 20:23:52 -0700, "Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote: >>> >>><snip> >>> >>>>We have quit-smoking patches, but he won't quit >>>>until after his surgery. >>> >>>OMG, Dams...I have back surgery in my future (putting it off >>>until I can't stand the pain anymore) and my doc said smokers >>>are the hardest hit by major surgery. I don't smoke, but the DH >>>does and he told the DH that when I have to have the spinal >>>fusion, even *he* has to quit smoking long beforehand, even >>>though he never smokes in the house or car. >> >> >>Interesting. I wonder why. The Widow Geraldine is having back >>surgery on Monday and she's a heavy smoker. I wonder if the doc >>told her to quit. Like it would carry any sway with her. :-/ > > > Up here there are several Doctors (GPs) who won't treat people who > smoke. They insisted their patents quit and those that didn't needed to > find a new Doctor. I'm guessing these doctors are members of the > smoking Nazis. (Those people who refuse to give smokers even some > rights and persecute smokers to the max). I don't smoke anymore and > feel those that do smoke should have some rights. I've never met a general surgeon or family practice doc who won't treat smokers, but I know a couple of plastic surgeons who turn away smokers. The rationale goes thusly: Cosmetic surgery is optional, and it's all about looks. The end result is the surgeon's bread and butter. Smokers don't heal correctly. Some times they don't heal at all. You don't want people with self-inflicted sub-optimal outcomes out there telling everybody that Dr. So-And-So did their face lift. Which sucks doubly since smokers tend to have worse wrinkles and sags than even sun-worshippers. Kathleen |
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Stan Horwitz > said (in another thread):
>Crash is well enough to go out to eat to Applebee's now? That's great >news! He's well enough, but at this point, the budget doesn't allow for Applebee's right now. We wound up going to Wendy's. He ate half of a baked potato and a spicy chicken sandwich. This was his first meal in two weeks. Hopefully, he'll continue to eat, now that he's done it successfully. We'll probably hit Applebee's a few days before the surgery. He'll have the sirloin steak, and I'll have the babyback ribs. We've fallen into a very pleasant rut. > I hope Crash is getting real relief from his pain. He put the last of the five patches on this morning. He is still lucid. I think the problems occur when the fentynal builds up in your system. He didn't start getting sloppy drunk-like until he'd been on the patch for a week. We're going to keep an eye on things. If he can get through the three day cycle on the patches without getting mooshy-brained, we'll talk to the doctor about putting him on a schedule of three days on and three days off (took 3 days for him to become normal when he stopped using them). The patches offer a lot of pain relief. I'm hoping that this will be a viable option for him. Carol |
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On Sun, 08 May 2005 06:50:45 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote: >In article >, blake murphy > wrote: > >> well, yes, doctor, i still smoke and drink and sometimes beat my meat. >> sorry if this means you can't be bothered with me. why are you still >> an asshole? >> >> your pal, >> blake >> > >Well, where have YOU been? You've been missed. wasting time on other parts of the net. i see most of the cast of characters is intact though. thanks for asking. your pal, blake |
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On Sun, 08 May 2005 12:09:53 GMT, Dog3 > wrote:
>Melba's Jammin' > wrote in news:thisisbogus- : > >> In article >, blake murphy >> > wrote: >> >>> well, yes, doctor, i still smoke and drink and sometimes beat my meat. >>> sorry if this means you can't be bothered with me. why are you still >>> an asshole? >>> >>> your pal, >>> blake >>> >> >> Well, where have YOU been? You've been missed. > >LOL... I think he answered your question in his post. It appears he has >been... preoccupied. i *said* sometimes. more often drinking and smoking. your pal, blake |
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In article .com>,
"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote: > Well, gang, we just got back from seeing the orthopedic surgeon. He > pronounced Crash's Avascular Necrosis to be *severe* in both hips, > necessitating two total hip replacements. The first will take place on > June 8th. Not sure when the second one will be, but if it interferes > with the cook-in, well ... there's always next year. > > We'd appreciate any prayers, vibes, thoughts, candles. Whatever you've > got.  On their way, and continuing. Miche (p and e) -- WWMVD? |
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In article .com>, "Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote:
>Goomba38 wrote: >> >> Neurosurgeons often tell patients they won't do >> elective surgeries if the patient is still smoking, as the outcomes are >> much less successful. If one has the time and inclination to quit it >> will lower their surgical and post op risks. > >I'll pass this along to Crash. Hopefully he's still in touch with >recent problems and will want to avoid any future complications. It's >curious that the only doctor who has ever mentioned smoking was the >surgeon who did my reconstructive surgery. No one has ever counseled >Crash not to smoke when he has had previous surgeries (we go to all >medical appointments together, so I know it's not just that Crash >hasn't 'fessed up). I hope he'll listen. Interesting. I was smoking 30/day several decades ago when I got pneumonia in Canberra (Oz) -- the max one day was 4 degrees C, and I'm an obligate tropical life form. The Hostel where I was staying called in their "resident" quack. He told me that if I didn't stop smoking he wouldn't treat me! (Wasn't hard to agree with that at the time -- smoking and coughing with pneumonia don't mix too well. :-) Cheers, Phred. -- LID |
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On Mon, 09 May 2005 01:26:47 -0500, Damsel >
wrote: >He put the last of the five patches on this morning. He is still lucid. I >think the problems occur when the fentynal builds up in your system. He >didn't start getting sloppy drunk-like until he'd been on the patch for a >week. We're going to keep an eye on things. Hmmmmmmmm...Fentanyl has a very short half life, which means it doesn't last very long. Like less than a half hour, if I remember correctly. Not sure if it can build up in your system like that.... I never heard of it doing that, but I could be totally wrong on this. Christine |
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"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message ... > On Mon, 09 May 2005 01:26:47 -0500, Damsel > > wrote: > > >>He put the last of the five patches on this morning. He is still lucid. >>I >>think the problems occur when the fentynal builds up in your system. He >>didn't start getting sloppy drunk-like until he'd been on the patch for a >>week. We're going to keep an eye on things. > > Hmmmmmmmm...Fentanyl has a very short half life, which means it > doesn't last very long. Like less than a half hour, if I remember > correctly. > Not sure if it can build up in your system like that.... I never heard > of it doing that, but I could be totally wrong on this. > > Christine I could sure tell when my IV supply ran out. |
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Christine Dabney > said:
>On Mon, 09 May 2005 01:26:47 -0500, Damsel > >wrote: > >>He put the last of the five patches on this morning. He is still lucid. I >>think the problems occur when the fentynal builds up in your system. He >>didn't start getting sloppy drunk-like until he'd been on the patch for a >>week. We're going to keep an eye on things. > >Hmmmmmmmm...Fentanyl has a very short half life, which means it >doesn't last very long. Like less than a half hour, if I remember >correctly. >Not sure if it can build up in your system like that.... I never heard >of it doing that, but I could be totally wrong on this. Dunno, but after he started taking it, he gradually became more and more disoriented, with slurred speech, virtually no depth perception, and was unable to get out of bed or sit upright in a chair. Took a week to get that bad, then it just kept getting worse and worse. We're seeing the doctor in the morning about maybe using patches of a lower dosage, or changing meds altogether. I'm not sure what he has in mind, but he asked us to come in. I'll report back. Carol |
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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> The issue of smoking before surgery was raised on a tv program just last > week. All of the doctors felt that surgical patients should stop smoking > at least 2 weeks prior to their procedure. The anesthesiologists explained > that smoking compromised the lungs' ability to recover from gas type > anesthetics and reduced the effective breathing capacity. They showed a > comparison of patients immediately after surgery as they were beginning to > breath again unassisted. The difference between smokers and non-smokers > was dramatic, with smokers literally gasping for a breath and coughing > enough to tear sutures. > I see this time and again with post op patients. Smokers are often harder to wean off the vents, but healing is also affected by vasoconstricting effects of smoking. Goomba |
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Curly Sue wrote:
> Although I am puzzled that GPs would refuse to take on smokers as > patients, I'm not really sympathetic to smokers. They had it good for > a looooong time, with absolutely no regard for non-smokers. None at > all. The worm has turned. > Consider that even elective neurosurgery entails large risks. Have you seen the cost of malpractice for neurosurgeons lately!? Yowsa!!!! They want the best outcome for the patient. I don't find the expectation that a patient's interest in their own health puzzling, and hope when given time they prepare themselves for surgery and participate in their own recovery. I've seen otherwise too often though. Goomba |
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> Wayne Boatwright wrote: > > > The issue of smoking before surgery was raised on a tv program just last > > week. All of the doctors felt that surgical patients should stop smoking > > at least 2 weeks prior to their procedure. The anesthesiologists explained Quitting smoking is a good thing for *everybody*, but that seems like about the worst time possible, psychologically. -- Dan Abel Sonoma State University AIS |
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On Wed 18 May 2005 02:11:45p, Dan Abel wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >> Wayne Boatwright wrote: >> >> > The issue of smoking before surgery was raised on a tv program just >> > last week. All of the doctors felt that surgical patients should >> > stop smoking at least 2 weeks prior to their procedure. The >> > anesthesiologists explained > > > Quitting smoking is a good thing for *everybody*, but that seems like > about the worst time possible, psychologically. > I would agree, Dan. However, if you knew how much more difficult recovery was because of it, it might make the prospect easier. The other thing is, once you're in the hospital you simply cannot smoke until after you leave. -- Wayne Boatwright ____________________________________________ Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day. Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974 |
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Dan Abel wrote:
> Quitting smoking is a good thing for *everybody*, but that seems like > about the worst time possible, psychologically. > I disagree. I have seen many long-time smokers go cold turkey when they have a compelling "reason": pregnancy, heart attack, some bad disease foist on them: it is as if they "see the light" or they make a bargain: I stop smoking now, and I'll respond to the chemo. Humans often respond to adversity by mustering beliefs and courage didn't know they possessed. I, in my stop smoking pitch, tell the patient about how many people quit after a heart attack, proving quitting is possible and urging them to stop before their first MI. I've had few people quit, and even fewer lose weight and radically bring their sugars down, but each time is so rewarding, I always hope. Once I was begging a lady at the fruit stand for some boysenberries (they were out). She finally looked up at me and squawked my name along with "you saved my life!" Then in a sotto voce she said "come back at five" and she had a whole flat for me. blacksalt ObFood: baby has discovered ketchup, and a mere spot of it on a dish will amke him eat *anything* but green peas. Kiddo (getting a little big for "baby") loves to watch me cook, and stands on a stool shouting HOT, KOOKing, SHARP-OWIE and, when watching me mix anything, "round an round an round an round" |
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kalanamak wrote:
> Dan Abel wrote: > > > Quitting smoking is a good thing for *everybody*, but that seems like > > about the worst time possible, psychologically. > > > I disagree. I have seen many long-time smokers go cold turkey > when they have a compelling "reason": pregnancy, heart attack, some > bad disease foist on them: it is as if they "see the light" or they > make a bargain: I stop smoking now, and I'll respond to the chemo. > Humans often respond to adversity by mustering beliefs and courage > didn't know they possessed. > I, in my stop smoking pitch, tell the patient about how many people > quit after a heart attack, proving quitting is possible > and urging them to stop before their first MI. I've had few people > quit, and even fewer lose weight and radically bring their sugars > down, but each time is so rewarding, I always hope. Once I was begging > a lady at the fruit stand for some boysenberries (they were out). She > finally looked up at me and squawked my name along with "you saved my > life!" Then in a sotto voce she said "come back at five" and she > had a whole flat for me. > blacksalt > ObFood: baby has discovered ketchup, and a mere spot of it on a dish > will amke him eat *anything* but green peas. Kiddo (getting a little > big for "baby") loves to watch me cook, and stands on a stool shouting > HOT, KOOKing, SHARP-OWIE and, when watching me mix anything, "round an > round an round an round" Wish I had some grandbabies. Just as a side note, it took me 10 years and 8 tries before I quit smoking. Been over 6 years now. Finally read where patches best used for about 3 times longer than package recommended. And I got good n' mad at the producers and myself. My GP never did have any faith in me, the bum. Just don't stop trying, never stop asking our smoker loved ones (only infrequently) "Have you thought about quitting?" Wish I was as successful at weight loss, maybe need to get mad at Hershey and them durned elves... Edrena, pickling 60# of asparagus |
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kalanamak wrote on 18 May 2005 in rec.food.cooking
> I've had few people > quit, and even fewer lose weight and radically bring their sugars > down, but each time is so rewarding, It took the onset of LDS(mild emphysema) to make me quit Smoking. It took the onset of Type 2 Diabetes to make me lose weight. -- No Bread Crumbs were hurt in the making of this Meal. Type 2 Diabetic Since Aug 2004 1AC- 7.2, 7.3, 5.5, 5.6 mmol Weight from 265 down to 219 lbs. and dropping. Continuing to be Manitoban |
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kalanamak > said:
>ObFood: baby has discovered ketchup, and a mere spot of it on a dish >will amke him eat *anything* but green peas. Kiddo (getting a little >big for "baby") loves to watch me cook, and stands on a stool shouting >HOT, KOOKing, SHARP-OWIE and, when watching me mix anything, "round an >round an round an round" How old is he now? Carol -- CLICK DAILY TO FEED THE HUNGRY United States: http://www.stopthehunger.com/ International: http://www.thehungersite.com/ |
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Dan Abel wrote:
>>Wayne Boatwright wrote: >> >> >>>The issue of smoking before surgery was raised on a tv program just last >>>week. All of the doctors felt that surgical patients should stop smoking >>>at least 2 weeks prior to their procedure. The anesthesiologists explained > > > > Quitting smoking is a good thing for *everybody*, but that seems like > about the worst time possible, psychologically. > There's NEVER a right time, but upcoming surgery and the possibility of a bad outcome should serve as some strong motivator. I quit when my mother was dying of cancer. (Two packs a day, 34 years ago. No, it wasn't easy.) gloria p |
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Goomba38 wrote: > I see this time and again with post op patients. Smokers are often > harder to wean off the vents, but healing is also affected by > vasoconstricting effects of smoking. > Goomba They had a heckofa time getting my Mom off her vent after triple bypass. She smoked 40-some years. Seeing her go through that ordeal was enough to make me hate the damn things. After surgery shwe quit for 2 years and then started again. The lure was just too strong. -L. |
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kalanamak > wrote:
>Dan Abel wrote: > >> Quitting smoking is a good thing for *everybody*, but that seems like >> about the worst time possible, psychologically. >> >I disagree. I have seen many long-time smokers go cold turkey >when they have a compelling "reason": pregnancy, heart attack, some >bad disease foist on them: it is as if they "see the light" or they >make a bargain: I stop smoking now, and I'll respond to the chemo. >Humans often respond to adversity by mustering beliefs and courage >didn't know they possessed. >I, in my stop smoking pitch, tell the patient about how many people >quit after a heart attack, proving quitting is possible >and urging them to stop before their first MI. I've had few people >quit, and even fewer lose weight and radically bring their sugars >down, but each time is so rewarding, I always hope. Once I was begging >a lady at the fruit stand for some boysenberries (they were out). She >finally looked up at me and squawked my name along with "you saved my >life!" Then in a sotto voce she said "come back at five" and she >had a whole flat for me. >blacksalt >ObFood: baby has discovered ketchup, and a mere spot of it on a dish >will amke him eat *anything* but green peas. Kiddo (getting a little >big for "baby") loves to watch me cook, and stands on a stool shouting >HOT, KOOKing, SHARP-OWIE and, when watching me mix anything, "round an >round an round an round" Don't stop telling all of your smoking patients to stop. I remember that my former GP said that she never wanted it said about her that "The doctor never said I should stop smoking." When I noticed on my record "nicotine addiction" I decided I did not like being an addict. Quit smoking 13 years ago. -- Susan N. "Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral, 48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy." Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974) |
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"Damsel" > wrote in message ... > kalanamak > said: > >>ObFood: baby has discovered ketchup, and a mere spot of it on a dish >>will amke him eat *anything* but green peas. Kiddo (getting a little >>big for "baby") loves to watch me cook, and stands on a stool shouting >>HOT, KOOKing, SHARP-OWIE and, when watching me mix anything, "round an >>round an round an round" > > How old is he now? > > Carol > -- > CLICK DAILY TO FEED THE HUNGRY > United States: > http://www.stopthehunger.com/ > International: > http://www.thehungersite.com/ My husband Gary still does it and he's 35! Sarah |
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-L. wrote:
> Goomba38 wrote: > >>I see this time and again with post op patients. Smokers are often >>harder to wean off the vents, but healing is also affected by >>vasoconstricting effects of smoking. >>Goomba > > > They had a heckofa time getting my Mom off her vent after triple > bypass. She smoked 40-some years. Seeing her go through that ordeal > was enough to make me hate the damn things. After surgery shwe quit > for 2 years and then started again. The lure was just too strong. > > -L. I'm sorry to hear that  Her repaired vessels sure don't need that. Goomba |
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Monsur Fromage du Pollet > said:
>It took the onset of LDS(mild emphysema) to make me quit Smoking. Crash has (unfortunately) decided to smoke right up until his surgery. I've done everything I could to try to convince him to stop. Forwarded everyone's messages about smoking to him. No go. I can't worry about it anymore. He's a big boy, and he has to live with the consequences of that decision. Last week, the doctor doubled Crash's oral pain pills and added a muscle relaxer. Today, Crash got more pain patches that are half the strength of the ones he had before. I'm gonna have to monitor him pretty closely until we find out what they'll do for/to him. He gave them to me and asked me to hide them. Good thinking on his part! >It took the onset of Type 2 Diabetes to make me lose weight. I'm seeing my doc tomorrow about my diabetes. I've gotta tell her that my previous, perfect readings were because I was only eating 10-15 grams of carbs per day. She already knows this, but I'm going to remind her. I can't live like that. I want more freedom as far as what I eat. I haven't been acting like a good little diabetic lately, but I've gotten better than I was for a long while. I anticipate a medication change. Whether that will involve insulin, I just don't know yet. Carol -- CLICK DAILY TO FEED THE HUNGRY United States: http://www.stopthehunger.com/ International: http://www.thehungersite.com/ |
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"Damsel" > wrote in message ... > Monsur Fromage du Pollet > said: > >>It took the onset of LDS(mild emphysema) to make me quit Smoking. > > Crash has (unfortunately) decided to smoke right up until his surgery. > I've done everything I could to try to convince him to stop. > Forwarded > everyone's messages about smoking to him. No go. I can't worry about > it > anymore. He's a big boy, and he has to live with the consequences of > that > decision. > > Last week, the doctor doubled Crash's oral pain pills and added a > muscle > relaxer. Today, Crash got more pain patches that are half the > strength of > the ones he had before. I'm gonna have to monitor him pretty closely > until > we find out what they'll do for/to him. He gave them to me and asked > me to > hide them. Good thinking on his part! > >>It took the onset of Type 2 Diabetes to make me lose weight. > > I'm seeing my doc tomorrow about my diabetes. I've gotta tell her > that my > previous, perfect readings were because I was only eating 10-15 grams > of > carbs per day. She already knows this, but I'm going to remind her. > > I can't live like that. I want more freedom as far as what I eat. I > haven't been acting like a good little diabetic lately, but I've > gotten > better than I was for a long while. I anticipate a medication change. > Whether that will involve insulin, I just don't know yet. All the best to Crash and a lot of love to you, you are going to need it! Be strong O |
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"Damsel" > wrote in message ... > Monsur Fromage du Pollet > said: > > >It took the onset of LDS(mild emphysema) to make me quit Smoking. > > Crash has (unfortunately) decided to smoke right up until his surgery. > I've done everything I could to try to convince him to stop. Forwarded > everyone's messages about smoking to him. No go. I can't worry about it > anymore. He's a big boy, and he has to live with the consequences of that > decision. > > Last week, the doctor doubled Crash's oral pain pills and added a muscle > relaxer. Today, Crash got more pain patches that are half the strength of > the ones he had before. I'm gonna have to monitor him pretty closely until > we find out what they'll do for/to him. He gave them to me and asked me to > hide them. Good thinking on his part! > > >It took the onset of Type 2 Diabetes to make me lose weight. > > I'm seeing my doc tomorrow about my diabetes. I've gotta tell her that my > previous, perfect readings were because I was only eating 10-15 grams of > carbs per day. She already knows this, but I'm going to remind her. > > I can't live like that. I want more freedom as far as what I eat. I > haven't been acting like a good little diabetic lately, but I've gotten > better than I was for a long while. I anticipate a medication change. > Whether that will involve insulin, I just don't know yet. > > Carol > -- > CLICK DAILY TO FEED THE HUNGRY > United States: > http://www.stopthehunger.com/ > International: > http://www.thehungersite.com/ Well, Dams, if it's any consolation, I smoked right up to and after, and I healed up damned nicely after my fusion. (Not that I don't need to quit, mind you!) It's not a guarantee of problems, but it does increase the possibility. As you say, he's all growd up<G> and has to make his own decisions. Re the Dr-you'd better keep me posted on what she says! Crossing my fingers that you miss on the needle! Lynne A |
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Damsel wrote:
> Monsur Fromage du Pollet > said: > >It took the onset of LDS(mild emphysema) to make me quit Smoking. > > Crash has (unfortunately) decided to smoke right up until his surgery. > I've done everything I could to try to convince him to stop. Forwarded > everyone's messages about smoking to him. No go. I can't worry about it > anymore. He's a big boy, and he has to live with the consequences of that > decision. > Last week, the doctor doubled Crash's oral pain pills and added a muscle > relaxer. Today, Crash got more pain patches that are half the strength of > the ones he had before. I'm gonna have to monitor him pretty closely until > we find out what they'll do for/to him. He gave them to me and asked me to > hide them. Good thinking on his part! > > >It took the onset of Type 2 Diabetes to make me lose weight. > I'm seeing my doc tomorrow about my diabetes. I've gotta tell her that my > previous, perfect readings were because I was only eating 10-15 grams of > carbs per day. She already knows this, but I'm going to remind her. > I can't live like that. I want more freedom as far as what I eat. I > haven't been acting like a good little diabetic lately, but I've gotten > better than I was for a long while. I anticipate a medication change. > Whether that will involve insulin, I just don't know yet. > Carol I tell Ol'Whiskerface from time to time what girly color I'm going to paint his garage and which wicker & potted plants I'll put where. Then the discussion on flowery curtains... and that's all *groan* up if you please. Good luck on the diabetes thing, that is ever a sword over my neck. Edrena |
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On 18 May 2005 22:20:29 -0700, "-L." > wrote:
>They had a heckofa time getting my Mom off her vent after triple >bypass. She smoked 40-some years. Seeing her go through that ordeal >was enough to make me hate the damn things. After surgery shwe quit >for 2 years and then started again. The lure was just too strong. I can relate. The dear aulde dad, in the last stages of lung cancer, would take the oxygen cannula out of his nose to smoke. My mother quit far, far too late after her emphysema diagnosis. I wouldn't wish either death on anyone. I quit as soon as the second diagnosis was made. Toughest thing I've ever done. Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA "If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner." -- Duncan Hines To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox" |
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Damsel wrote:
> > > Crash has (unfortunately) decided to smoke right up until his surgery. > I've done everything I could to try to convince him to stop. Forwarded > everyone's messages about smoking to him. No go. I can't worry about it > anymore. He's a big boy, and he has to live with the consequences of that > decision. > Sorry to hear that. Pity we smokers can be so stubborn. > Last week, the doctor doubled Crash's oral pain pills and added a muscle > relaxer. Today, Crash got more pain patches that are half the strength of > the ones he had before. I'm gonna have to monitor him pretty closely until > we find out what they'll do for/to him. He gave them to me and asked me to > hide them. Good thinking on his part! > > >>It took the onset of Type 2 Diabetes to make me lose weight. > > > I'm seeing my doc tomorrow about my diabetes. I've gotta tell her that my > previous, perfect readings were because I was only eating 10-15 grams of > carbs per day. She already knows this, but I'm going to remind her. > > I can't live like that. I want more freedom as far as what I eat. I > haven't been acting like a good little diabetic lately, but I've gotten > better than I was for a long while. I anticipate a medication change. > Whether that will involve insulin, I just don't know yet. > > Carol Shame Carol, that's not nice either. I hope everything goes okay for you guys. Chin-up and all that rot... Cathy -- I don't suffer from insanity - I enjoy every minute of it |
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In article >, Terry Pulliam
Burd > wrote: (snip) > > One thing that annoys me about smokers is that my employer gets more > work out of me than a smoker, as I don't leave the building for 10 > mins. every hour. > Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd Rob heard this on the radio: Guy notices his smoking co-workers are outside for their smoke break. He decides he wants a break, too. Goes outside with them. Gets written up by boss because "you don't smoke." Guy continues to go outside with smoking guys, but holds a lit cigarette in his hand. Doesn't puff. Citations stop. OB Food: * Exported from MasterCook Mac * Lemonade Concentrate Recipe By : posted to rec.food.cooking by Barb Schaller 5/20/05 Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00 Categories : Beverages Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ -------------------------------- 1/2 cup boiling water 1 1/2 cups sugar 1 Tbsp. fresh grated lemon peel 1 1/2 cups fresh lemon juice Pour boiling water over sugar, stir until dissolved. Add lemon peel and lemon juice. Store in refrigerator. To use, pour 1/3 cup syrup over ice in glass; add cold water. For 2 quarts lemonade, use 2-2/3 cup syrup and 5 cups water. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - NOTES : Joyce Lamont, WCCO Radio, Spring, 1984. ______ -- -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> 5/8/05. "Are we going to measure, or are we going to cook?" -Food Critic Mimi Sheraton |
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On Fri, 20 May 2005 07:01:52 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote: >In article >, Terry Pulliam >Burd > wrote: >(snip) >> >> One thing that annoys me about smokers is that my employer gets more >> work out of me than a smoker, as I don't leave the building for 10 >> mins. every hour. > >> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd > >Rob heard this on the radio: Guy notices his smoking co-workers are >outside for their smoke break. He decides he wants a break, too. Goes >outside with them. Gets written up by boss because "you don't smoke." >Guy continues to go outside with smoking guys, but holds a lit cigarette >in his hand. Doesn't puff. Citations stop. I can't imagine anyone having a smoke except on certified breaks. That is ridiculous and sickening. That should not be allowed.I have only had a smoke at a job on specified breaks and lunch break. Why would any business allow people to take breaks like that? GQ > >OB Food: >* Exported from MasterCook Mac * > > Lemonade Concentrate > >Recipe By : posted to rec.food.cooking by Barb Schaller 5/20/05 >Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00 >Categories : Beverages > > Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method >-------- ------------ -------------------------------- > 1/2 cup boiling water > 1 1/2 cups sugar > 1 Tbsp. fresh grated lemon peel > 1 1/2 cups fresh lemon juice > >Pour boiling water over sugar, stir until dissolved. Add lemon peel and >lemon juice. Store in refrigerator. To use, pour 1/3 cup syrup over >ice in glass; add cold water. For 2 quarts lemonade, use 2-2/3 cup >syrup and 5 cups water. > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >NOTES : Joyce Lamont, WCCO Radio, Spring, 1984. >______ |
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On Fri 20 May 2005 06:25:02a, Graphic Queen wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On Fri, 20 May 2005 07:01:52 -0500, Melba's Jammin' > > wrote: >>Rob heard this on the radio: Guy notices his smoking co-workers are >>outside for their smoke break. He decides he wants a break, too. Goes >>outside with them. Gets written up by boss because "you don't smoke." >>Guy continues to go outside with smoking guys, but holds a lit cigarette >>in his hand. Doesn't puff. Citations stop. > > I can't imagine anyone having a smoke except on certified breaks. That > is ridiculous and sickening. That should not be allowed.I have only > had a smoke at a job on specified breaks and lunch break. Why would > any business allow people to take breaks like that? > > GQ Were you non-management? Were you paid hourly? Many companies, including most I've worked for, do not have scheduled breaks or even "official" breaks, at least not for management employees and others who are salaried. Workers take breaks as needed and/or desired as long as the privilege isn't abused and demands of the job are met. This isn't at all uncommon. -- Wayne Boatwright ____________________________________________ Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day. Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974 |
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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message ... > On Fri 20 May 2005 06:25:02a, Graphic Queen wrote in rec.food.cooking: > > > On Fri, 20 May 2005 07:01:52 -0500, Melba's Jammin' > > > wrote: > > >>Rob heard this on the radio: Guy notices his smoking co-workers are > >>outside for their smoke break. He decides he wants a break, too. Goes > >>outside with them. Gets written up by boss because "you don't smoke." > >>Guy continues to go outside with smoking guys, but holds a lit cigarette > >>in his hand. Doesn't puff. Citations stop. > > > > I can't imagine anyone having a smoke except on certified breaks. That > > is ridiculous and sickening. That should not be allowed.I have only > > had a smoke at a job on specified breaks and lunch break. Why would > > any business allow people to take breaks like that? > > > > GQ > > Were you non-management? Were you paid hourly? > > Many companies, including most I've worked for, do not have scheduled > breaks or even "official" breaks, at least not for management employees and > others who are salaried. Workers take breaks as needed and/or desired as > long as the privilege isn't abused and demands of the job are met. This > isn't at all uncommon. > > -- > Wayne Boatwright > ____________________________________________ > > Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day. > Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974 Exactly-try working night shift in a nursing home. No one much cares WHEN you break, and we seldom took a standard 15 min. break because that's too long to leave only one aide on the floor. Step out for a quick 3-4 puffs, and back in! Lynne A |
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