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Is there such a thing as a good beer in a can?
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Bill wrote:
> Is there such a thing as a good beer in a can?


Heineken.

Jill


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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> Bill wrote:
>> Is there such a thing as a good beer in a can?

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> Heineken.
>
> Jill


ANY beer is better from a bottle. Should be poured into a glass, not drunk
from the container.


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Bill wrote:
> Is there such a thing as a good beer in a can?



Yes. There are several. HTH :-)
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On 2005-05-30, Bill > wrote:

> Is there such a thing as a good beer in a can?


The only time beer is better in a can is when I am having my favorite
junkfood combo, a can of Budweiser and a Hostess berrie pie. Something
about the aluminum twang and the rice hulls of the Bud commingling
with the dyes and artificial flavors of the HBP. Just doesn't work
with a longneck. Other than that, no.

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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>> Bill wrote:
>>> Is there such a thing as a good beer in a can?

>>
>> Heineken.
>>
>> Jill

>
> ANY beer is better from a bottle. Should be poured into a glass, not
> drunk from the container.


I haven't been camping in a long time but I can promise you we don't carry
glasses around when we do. Plastic cups, sure We even have some
"swanky" plastic wine glasses <G>

Jill


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"Bill" > wrote in message
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> Is there such a thing as a good beer in a can?



Some of the Brit imports like Guinness and Stoddington's (I think -- it's in
the yellow and black can) have the little rattle-ball that supposedly has
nitrogen or something that makes the beer fresh... or so the advertising
hype says. It's still fun to rattle the can at parties...


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"dwacon" > wrote in message
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> "Bill" > wrote in message
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> > Is there such a thing as a good beer in a can?

>
>
> Some of the Brit imports like Guinness and Stoddington's (I think -- it's

in
> the yellow and black can) have the little rattle-ball that supposedly has
> nitrogen or something that makes the beer fresh... or so the advertising
> hype says. It's still fun to rattle the can at parties...
>


Guinness is Irish Bubba made in Dublin at St. James Gate. I think the other
one you refer to is Boddingtons, "The Cream of Manchester". Guinness in the
can is the Guinness most like that available in Ireland. I am enjoying one
at the moment! The Guinness in the keg, while it can be very good depending
on how it has been treated and served, is not as close to the real Irish
Guinness. The bottled Guinness in the small bottle, is Guinness "Export
Extra Stout" and stands on its own as a separate subspecies of Guinness all
over the world. The new Guinness in the large bottle, while it is not
marketed as such, is a "light" stout and, as such, is an abomination.

Boddingtons can be found in the keg in the U.S. and is quite good and is
near the Manchester quality. Boddingtons in the can is also very good. I
have never seen it in a can.

The thing that makes both of these canned beers outstanding is the
multi-million dollar development of the "widget" (which is a Guinness
trademark) in the can. It does contain nitrogen as do the feed lines of the
Guinness keg. It allows the remarkable freshness of the beer in the cans. As
Guinness expanded, other beers gained the technology. I assume that Guinness
(or its new corporate partners) has licensed the use of the widget as I have
seen it in Murphy's Stout (nasty, unless you are a Corkman), and Beamish
Stout (very nice indeed and also from Cork).

Charlie


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Mi e' parso che jmcquown abbia scritto:

>> Is there such a thing as a good beer in a can?


> Heineken.


I quote!
But don't say it to beer-snobs

Somebody says that Guinnes is a good canned beer, too, but I
don't like black beers.
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Mi e' parso che dwacon abbia scritto:

> Some of the Brit imports like Guinness and Stoddington's
> (I think -- it's in the yellow and black can) have the
> little rattle-ball that supposedly has nitrogen or
> something that makes the beer fresh... or so the
> advertising hype says. It's still fun to rattle the can
> at parties...


Hey, if you shake a beer can and just open it, it should spray
half or more of its contents around, a-la Formula 1 podium
Is Guinnes less sparkling than other beers? Or is this
rattle-ball so well designed to prevent it?
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On Mon 30 May 2005 11:40:10p, Vilco wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Mi e' parso che dwacon abbia scritto:
>
>> Some of the Brit imports like Guinness and Stoddington's
>> (I think -- it's in the yellow and black can) have the
>> little rattle-ball that supposedly has nitrogen or
>> something that makes the beer fresh... or so the
>> advertising hype says. It's still fun to rattle the can at parties...

>
> Hey, if you shake a beer can and just open it, it should spray
> half or more of its contents around, a-la Formula 1 podium
> Is Guinnes less sparkling than other beers? Or is this
> rattle-ball so well designed to prevent it?


This explains the "rattle-ball" or widget in cans of Guinness and other
European brews in cans...

http://home.howstuffworks.com/question446.htm

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jmcquown wrote:
> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> > .. .
> >> Bill wrote:
> >>> Is there such a thing as a good beer in a can?
> >>
> >> Heineken.
> >>
> >> Jill

> >
> > ANY beer is better from a bottle. Should be poured into a glass, not
> > drunk from the container.

>
> I haven't been camping in a long time but I can promise you we don't carry
> glasses around when we do. Plastic cups, sure We even have some
> "swanky" plastic wine glasses <G>


When you're camping, canned beer in a plastic cup is right up there
with Chanel No. 2 Deep Woods Formula and porta-potties. <G>

Sheldon

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Sheldon wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> .. .
>>>> Bill wrote:
>>>>> Is there such a thing as a good beer in a can?
>>>>
>>>> Heineken.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> ANY beer is better from a bottle. Should be poured into a glass,
>>> not drunk from the container.

>>
>> I haven't been camping in a long time but I can promise you we don't
>> carry glasses around when we do. Plastic cups, sure We even
>> have some "swanky" plastic wine glasses <G>

>
> When you're camping, canned beer in a plastic cup is right up there
> with Chanel No. 2 Deep Woods Formula and porta-potties. <G>
>
> Sheldon


Porta-potties? We dug holes in the ground, dear. Latrines, as it were,
well downwind of the isolated campsite We *did* take toilet paper and
filled the holes back in before we left. The bath was a resevoir in which
we swam and we cooked over wood we'd gathered. Some thoughtful government
agency had carted in some white sand and my dog Sampson had a big time
running up and down the "beach" next to the water. A good time was had by
all.

Jill


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In article . net>, "Charles Gifford" > wrote:
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>Boddingtons can be found in the keg in the U.S. and is quite good and is
>near the Manchester quality. Boddingtons in the can is also very good. I
>have never seen it in a can.


Would you like to rephrase this, or is it really just supposition? ;-)

Cheers, Phred.

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"Bill" > wrote in message
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> Is there such a thing as a good beer in a can?


Guinness, Kilkenny, Boddingtons, etc. With the little widget. Better on
tap, but where that's not an option, I'll take it in a can.

Gabby




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"Vilco" > wrote in message
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> Mi e' parso che jmcquown abbia scritto:
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>>> Is there such a thing as a good beer in a can?

>
>> Heineken.

>
> I quote!
> But don't say it to beer-snobs
>
> Somebody says that Guinnes is a good canned beer, too, but I don't like
> black beers.
>


Philistine!!@!

Gabby


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Bill wrote:
> Is there such a thing as a good beer in a can?


No.

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"Bill" > wrote in message
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> Is there such a thing as a good beer in a can?


Yes

XX

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If the can is really big, say a quarter-barrel, then you have plenty of
choices.

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Dimitri wrote:
> "Bill" > wrote in message
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> > Is there such a thing as a good beer in a can?

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> Yes
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> XX
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> Dimitri


I suppose a duel is out of the question?

Cathy - who is loading her weapons.... i.e empty beer cans



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"Cathyxyz" > wrote in message
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> Dimitri wrote:
>> "Bill" > wrote in message
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>> > Is there such a thing as a good beer in a can?

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>> Yes
>>
>> XX
>>
>> Dimitri

>
> I suppose a duel is out of the question?
>
> Cathy - who is loading her weapons.... i.e empty beer cans


Many of the Mexican beers have a very strong german heritage.

Dimitri


Dos Equis
This famous brand with its double X label was created in 1897 by German
immigrant brewer Wilhelm Hasse. Dos Equis Amber first arrived on these shores in
1973 and the brewery also offers a lighter golden Special Lager, in the German
pilsner style. Sold in 12-ounce bottles, it's one of the few Mexican brews you
may find on tap around here. Find it in many Mexican restaurants.

Bohemia
With a name like that, some might expect a German brew. And while this beer is
Mexican in heritage (first made in the early 20th century), the pilsner style
certainly traces its roots to old Europe. Many German or Austrian brewers found
their way to Mexico in the 19th or 20th centuries, leaving a legacy that we
still enjoy today.


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Bill wrote:
> Is there such a thing as a good beer in a can?


NO!

I remember before there was canned beer... in those days bottled beer
was considered crap. The mechchanics of the actual can has evolved far
more positively than what it contains, and not just beer, most
everything. Ever since the wooden barrel was replaced with metal there
has been no decent beer anywhere on the planet... very few have ever
tasted good beer, they're much too young... any beer from a stainless
steel vat is crap, ANY BEER. These days folks guzzle beer soley to
emulate/exploit delusional brand hype and to get drunk, quality/flavor
doesn't enter into the equation. Taste is always accquired, but yoose
can only accquire what you're exposed to... hasn't been any decent beer
now for some 50 years, unless you make your own, and in wood.

Sheldon

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"Phred" > wrote in message
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> In article . net>,

"Charles Gifford" > wrote:
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> >Boddingtons can be found in the keg in the U.S. and is quite good and is
> >near the Manchester quality. Boddingtons in the can is also very good. I
> >have never seen it in a can.

>
> Would you like to rephrase this, or is it really just supposition? ;-)
>
> Cheers, Phred.


Hee, hee! Well, I did say I was drinking beer at the time. That should have
been "I have never seen it in a bottle." Cor!

Charlie


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"Charles Gifford" > wrote in message
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> The thing that makes both of these canned beers outstanding is the
> multi-million dollar development of the "widget" (which is a Guinness
> trademark) in the can. It does contain nitrogen as do the feed lines of
> the
> Guinness keg. It allows the remarkable freshness of the beer in the cans.
> As
> Guinness expanded, other beers gained the technology. I assume that
> Guinness
> (or its new corporate partners) has licensed the use of the widget as I
> have
> seen it in Murphy's Stout (nasty, unless you are a Corkman), and Beamish
> Stout (very nice indeed and also from Cork).



I am a big fan of Beamish -- there is a place in Wilmington DE called
"liquor world" -- a supermarket with nothing but beer, wine and spirits.
Worth a shopping excursion... and fun explaining to the state troopers on
the way home.

BTW... I tried cooking some Ox Tails in Guinness -- I had to use a ton of it
as it boiled down continuously... but the flavor of the final product was
awesome!

My dad always used a pressure cooker, but I dare not put any beer into that
device. I like having a roof on my house too much!


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"Vilco" > wrote in message
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> black beers.



Oh, superstitious, eh?

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"Vilco" > wrote in message
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> Mi e' parso che dwacon abbia scritto:
>
> > Some of the Brit imports like Guinness and Stoddington's
> > (I think -- it's in the yellow and black can) have the
> > little rattle-ball that supposedly has nitrogen or
> > something that makes the beer fresh... or so the
> > advertising hype says. It's still fun to rattle the can
> > at parties...

>
> Hey, if you shake a beer can and just open it, it should spray
> half or more of its contents around, a-la Formula 1 podium
> Is Guinnes less sparkling than other beers? Or is this
> rattle-ball so well designed to prevent it?


You don't shake the beer, but the empty can rattles - it contains a hollow
ball filled with nitrogen, that has one or two tiny perforations in it. When
you open the can (or relatively 'flat') beer, the escaping nitrogen give a
fine beaded creamy head, quite unlike the large bubbled one produced by
carbonated beers.


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> "Vilco" > wrote in message
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> > Mi e' parso che dwacon abbia scritto:
> >
> > > Some of the Brit imports like Guinness and Stoddington's
> > > (I think -- it's in the yellow and black can) have the
> > > little rattle-ball that supposedly has nitrogen or
> > > something that makes the beer fresh... or so the
> > > advertising hype says. It's still fun to rattle the can
> > > at parties...

> >
> > Hey, if you shake a beer can and just open it, it should spray
> > half or more of its contents around, a-la Formula 1 podium
> > Is Guinnes less sparkling than other beers? Or is this
> > rattle-ball so well designed to prevent it?

>
> You don't shake the beer, but the empty can rattles - it contains a hollow
> ball filled with nitrogen, that has one or two tiny perforations in it. When
> you open the can (or relatively 'flat') beer, the escaping nitrogen give a
> fine beaded creamy head, quite unlike the large bubbled one produced by
> carbonated beers.


What a pro... and not just sweaty monkey balls. hehe

Sheldon

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> Shaun aRe wrote:
> > "Vilco" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Mi e' parso che dwacon abbia scritto:
> > >
> > > > Some of the Brit imports like Guinness and Stoddington's
> > > > (I think -- it's in the yellow and black can) have the
> > > > little rattle-ball that supposedly has nitrogen or
> > > > something that makes the beer fresh... or so the
> > > > advertising hype says. It's still fun to rattle the can
> > > > at parties...
> > >
> > > Hey, if you shake a beer can and just open it, it should spray
> > > half or more of its contents around, a-la Formula 1 podium
> > > Is Guinnes less sparkling than other beers? Or is this
> > > rattle-ball so well designed to prevent it?

> >
> > You don't shake the beer, but the empty can rattles - it contains a

hollow
> > ball filled with nitrogen, that has one or two tiny perforations in it.

When
> > you open the can (or relatively 'flat') beer, the escaping nitrogen give

a
> > fine beaded creamy head, quite unlike the large bubbled one produced by
> > carbonated beers.

>
> What a pro... and not just sweaty monkey balls. hehe
>
> Sheldon


But I turned down your offer of free lessons...


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: You don't shake the beer, but the empty can rattles - it contains a hollow
: ball filled with nitrogen, that has one or two tiny perforations in it. When
: you open the can (or relatively 'flat') beer, the escaping nitrogen give a
: fine beaded creamy head, quite unlike the large bubbled one produced by
: carbonated beers.

It's not a ball. It's a round disk.


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> wrote in message
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> : You don't shake the beer, but the empty can rattles - it contains a

hollow
> : ball filled with nitrogen, that has one or two tiny perforations in it.

When
> : you open the can (or relatively 'flat') beer, the escaping nitrogen give

a
> : fine beaded creamy head, quite unlike the large bubbled one produced by
> : carbonated beers.
>
> It's not a ball. It's a round disk.


It used to be a disk; it's a ball in the Guinness cans now.

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> wrote in message
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> Shaun aRe wrote:
> : You don't shake the beer, but the empty can rattles - it contains a

hollow
> : ball filled with nitrogen, that has one or two tiny perforations in it.

When
> : you open the can (or relatively 'flat') beer, the escaping nitrogen give

a
> : fine beaded creamy head, quite unlike the large bubbled one produced by
> : carbonated beers.
>
> It's not a ball. It's a round disk.


There are several variations on the theme, but the majority I have seen
lately are indeed a *ball* - looks like a miniature table tennis ball, with
some little indentations at one point near the seam. IIRC the indents are
staggered and that where the tiny pin holes are, pointing in the same
direction at different points, possibly with the idea that the ball will
spin as the nitrogen is ejected, scattering the tiny, creamy bubbles
throughout the beer. Others are indeed discs (first few I saw) about 4 or so
mm thick, indeed. Maybe you're still getting our early, old versions over
there? ',;~P'''


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"kilikini" > wrote in message
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>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > : You don't shake the beer, but the empty can rattles - it contains a

> hollow
> > : ball filled with nitrogen, that has one or two tiny perforations in

it.
> When
> > : you open the can (or relatively 'flat') beer, the escaping nitrogen

give
> a
> > : fine beaded creamy head, quite unlike the large bubbled one produced

by
> > : carbonated beers.
> >
> > It's not a ball. It's a round disk.

>
> It used to be a disk; it's a ball in the Guinness cans now.
>
> kili


Indeed. Like I said, he must be getting really old stock over there still
LOL! ',;~}~


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I'm not much of a beer drinker but when I do, I like:

Some home brews (Oktoberfest ROCKS)
Lemon Hooch (does this even count as a beer? LOL)
Heineken
Grolsch (sp?) I just had some for the first time... YUMMM!
and I really like canned Pabst - but for use in my Beer Bread.

Cyndi Barley&hops


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