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Glitter Ninja wrote:
> "jmcquown" > writes: > >> we were >> hopelessly lost in Olathe, tired of driving around and *hungry*. > > How could you get lost in Olathe? > Stacia Very simple to do if you aren't from around there. It's funny, too, how everyone calls all the surrounding towns and burbs "Kansas City" when in reality they are none of the above. At any rate, we know how to get to Olathe and will be back for the Cedar Creek show in mid-September or thereabouts. Jill |
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Tara wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:07:26 GMT, "Dimitri" > > wrote: > >> Good Report - any other chains people like - or will accept as >> decent? > > Maggiano's > P.F. Chang > Moe's Burritos > Waffle House > Original Pancake House > > Tara P.F. Chang's is one place I studiously avoid. Overpriced, never had good service and the food was very mediocre. Jill |
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"jmcquown" > writes:
>Glitter Ninja wrote: >> "jmcquown" > writes: >> >>> hopelessly lost in Olathe, tired of driving around and *hungry*. >> >> How could you get lost in Olathe? >Very simple to do if you aren't from around there. I'm not from Olathe but it was one of the easier towns I'd driven in, when I went on vacation a couple of years ago. I was about to ask if you were really in Kansas City, but you said... >It's funny, too, how >everyone calls all the surrounding towns and burbs "Kansas City" when in >reality they are none of the above. Some of the towns are indeed ones that were absorbed by Kansas City and have a completely different town plan and all. Some of them are 'burbs, or the Kansas/Missouri version of 'burbs. I've been lost in Kansas City. Helpful hint: to get out of town, go north on The Paseo and you'll be free! Free! Stacia |
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Glitter Ninja wrote:
> "jmcquown" > writes: >> Glitter Ninja wrote: >>> "jmcquown" > writes: >>> >>>> hopelessly lost in Olathe, tired of driving around and *hungry*. >>> >>> How could you get lost in Olathe? > >> Very simple to do if you aren't from around there. > > I'm not from Olathe but it was one of the easier towns I'd driven > in, when I went on vacation a couple of years ago. I was about to > ask if you were really in Kansas City, but you said... > >> It's funny, too, how >> everyone calls all the surrounding towns and burbs "Kansas City" >> when in reality they are none of the above. > > Some of the towns are indeed ones that were absorbed by Kansas City > and have a completely different town plan and all. Some of them are > 'burbs, or the Kansas/Missouri version of 'burbs. > I've been lost in Kansas City. Helpful hint: to get out of town, go > north on The Paseo and you'll be free! Free! > > Stacia We were supposed to be in Lenexa. There are detour signs all over the place for I35 but we went too far. Easy enough to get back to Lenexa once we got on Strang Line Road, then hit 35N to the 75th street exit. Lemme tell you we were very grateful to find our hotel and get out of the dang truck! Meanwhile we had a delicious meal at Zio's where the server was kind enough to write down the directions to get us back on track. Jill |
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I pretty much refuse to eat at most chain restaurants. They are alays
way too expensive foe mediocre food. I will not set food in an Applebees, a Chilis, or a TGI Fridays (except maybe for a bar drink). I find PF Changs to be waaaaay overpriced as well, and the food was not nearly as good as most small, independent Chinese places. I do like the Macaroni Grill chain quite a lot. I've had decent meals at Max&Ermas and at Cracker barrel when I'm traveleing. And I really actually LIKE Ruby Tuesday's...mostly becasue of the salad bar. |
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![]() "Jude" > wrote in message oups.com... >I pretty much refuse to eat at most chain restaurants. They are alays > way too expensive foe mediocre food. I will not set food in an > Applebees, a Chilis, or a TGI Fridays (except maybe for a bar drink). > > I find PF Changs to be waaaaay overpriced as well, and the food was not > nearly as good as most small, independent Chinese places. > > I do like the Macaroni Grill chain quite a lot. Not me - The last time I was at our local Macaroni Grill 4 of us were just back from the jack Klugman 1 man show. We got in about 9:00 PM after the rush and they were admittedly short handed. I have a test of Italian joints and restaurants - the test is Spaghetti and meatball(s). If the spaghetti is reasonably chewy (Al dente) the place gets a pass, I can understand shorthanded - it happens. After way too long to order and then to get our food (delivered not by our waiter) I discovered the inside of the (both) meatballs were still frozen. Well that could happen, net pleasing to now their meatballs were frozen but well se la guerre. By the time I could get anyone's attention every one else at the table was finished. So I let him know the bill was adjusted and I went home and had a sandwich. Dimitri |
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:36:44 -0500, "jmcquown"
> wrote: > >P.F. Chang's is one place I studiously avoid. Overpriced, never had good >service and the food was very mediocre. I love the lettuce wraps at P.F. Chang's! We always had great service at the P.F. Chang's restaurant in Birmingham. Tara |
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"Dimitri" > wrote in message
om... > > Good Report - any other chains people like - or will accept as decent? There are a gazillion (yes, gazillion) chains in the Houston area--local, regional, and national. Just to name a few that I like (in general, I like the local/regional ones much more than the national ones)... Local/regional chains: most of the Pappas restaurants (Pappasitos, Pappadeux, Pappa's Steakhouse, Pappas Seafood); Cafe Express, Zio's, Wings 'n Things, Berryhill Hot Tamales, Jason's Deli, Murphy's Deli, Rockfish Seafood, Brio Tuscan Grille, Chuy's, Guadalajara Grille, Brothers Pizza, La Madeleine National chains: Cheesecake Factory, Macaroni Grill, IHOP, Jersey Mike's Subs, Buca di Beppo, Ruth's Chris Steakhouse, Rainforest Cafe Mary |
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I've never gotten a bad tip from Jane and Michael Stern or
roadfood.com. This goes back to the original Roadfood (pre 1980) and the web site - also their column in Gourmet (which is why I subscribe) and their weekly "appearance" on public radio's The Splendid Table. They even managed to find good roadfood here in North Dakota! Lynn from Fargo Best restaurant within 10 miles = Willy's Bar & Grill in Dilworth, Minnesota Salad is lettuce (iceberg) in a bowl - but they have a killer homemade French dressing! |
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![]() Peter Aitken wrote: > > > > "Dimitri" > wrote in message > > om... > > > > I have never understood this infatuation with Cracker Barrel. We have tried > it a few times while on the road and find the food mediocre at best and > downright poor at times. The ambience, if you can call it that, is > unbearably cornball country. The shop is full of uninteresting overpriced > junk. They are usually very crowded. What's the attraction? > > > -- > Peter Aitken The headquarters for Cracker Barrel are located in Lebanon, TN which about 30 miles east of Nashville. I will tell you why so many people like to eat at Cracker Barrel is for one - you can have as many homemade biscuits, butter, and jelly as you could possibly stuff yourself with. You'd be surprised at the number of people who can't make decent biscuits or some just don't have the time. Same goes for the number of corn muffins you could possible chow down on. To many people, biscuits and cornbread is a treat. We take them for granted here. Yes, the ambience may be cornball country, but to many senior citizens it brings back memories of when they were children/young adults. I've eaten there more times than I have fingers and toes and have yet to not overhear "Mom used one in the kitchen just like that and I haven't thought of it in years!" or "I remember Dad using that same tool when I was a kid." Another is "Wish I had kept that, it would be worth a small fortune now." The list of rememberances goes on and on. |
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MareCat wrote:
> There are a gazillion (yes, gazillion) chains in the Houston > area--local, regional, and national. > I recall a tasty chain based in Houston called "Two Pesos" many years ago. Open 24 hours a day and had great fresh food.I went to the one in Houston a few times and I used to go to one in Virginia years ago, but for some reason I think they closed? Do they still exist in Houston? Goomba |
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When you go back, try their bushman 'shrooms. They are awesome fried
mushrooms and they come with some of Outback's spicy ranch dressing. YUM! |
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"Goomba38" > wrote in message
... > MareCat wrote: > >> There are a gazillion (yes, gazillion) chains in the Houston >> area--local, regional, and national. >> > I recall a tasty chain based in Houston called "Two Pesos" many years > ago. Open 24 hours a day and had great fresh food.I went to the one in > Houston a few times and I used to go to one in Virginia years ago, but > for some reason I think they closed? Do they still exist in Houston? I think all of the Two Pesos (Mexican fast food) restaurants in Houston changed over to become Taco Cabana locations. I don't know if there are any Two Pesos left. Mary |
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"jmcquown" > writes:
>We were supposed to be in Lenexa. There are detour signs all over the place >for I35 but we went too far. Easy enough to get back to Lenexa once we got >on Strang Line Road, then hit 35N to the 75th street exit. Lemme tell you >we were very grateful to find our hotel and get out of the dang truck! Oh, construction. Nevermind everything I said. Kansas roads are impossible during construction, which is one of the 8,000 reasons to not be in Kansas during the summer. I've never been to Zio's but I might check it out sometime, I'm itching to find someplace new to go. If you're ever in Manhattan, try "Four Olives". Best place in town. I love to go and just stare at the wine bottles. Stacia |
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On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:49:50 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
> When you coming back in the rfc channel, sf? I like talking with you! I've tried twice since Alan posted the url for me *again*.... Unfortunately, nobody seems to be home when I'm in the mood to chat! <sniffle> When is a good time to look for you? |
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![]() Craig Welch wrote: > On 10 Jun 2005 20:24:42 -0700, "itsjoannotjoann" > > wrote: > > >I will tell you why so many people like to eat at Cracker Barrel is for > >one - you can have as many homemade biscuits, butter, and jelly as you > >could possibly stuff yourself with. > > And that's a *good* thing? > > -- > Craig I didn't necessarily mean it was a *good* thing, but to people who are biscuit deprived, it's heaven. |
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sf wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:49:50 -0500, jmcquown wrote: > >> When you coming back in the rfc channel, sf? I like talking with >> you! > > > I've tried twice since Alan posted the url for me *again*.... > Unfortunately, nobody seems to be home when I'm in the mood to chat! > <sniffle> > > When is a good time to look for you? Hard to say. Drop me an email when you're in the mood to chat and if I'm online I'll join you there! |
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Craig Welch wrote:
> On 10 Jun 2005 20:24:42 -0700, "itsjoannotjoann" > > wrote: > > >>I will tell you why so many people like to eat at Cracker Barrel is for >>one - you can have as many homemade biscuits, butter, and jelly as you >>could possibly stuff yourself with. > > > And that's a *good* thing? > Of course it is, well, maybe not for you, but for most of the rest of us, it is. jim |
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JimLane wrote:
> Craig Welch wrote: >> On 10 Jun 2005 20:24:42 -0700, "itsjoannotjoann" >> > wrote: >> >> >>> I will tell you why so many people like to eat at Cracker Barrel is >>> for one - you can have as many homemade biscuits, butter, and jelly >>> as you could possibly stuff yourself with. >> >> >> And that's a *good* thing? >> > > Of course it is, well, maybe not for you, but for most of the rest of > us, it is. > > > jim And they get to heat up their kitchen for the biscuits and corn muffins, which I don't like to do in the summer ![]() Jill |
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"jmcquown" > wrote: > Charlene Charette wrote: > >> Yup, Outback Steakhouse is a restaurant chain in the United States > >> that features an Australian theme. Their web site is > >> http://www.outbacksteakhouse.com/ and the food there is fairly good > >> for a chain even though their faux Australian theme is a bit silly. > > > > Though, interestingly, there are two locations in Australia. The mind > > boggles. > > > > http://www.outbacksteakhouse.com.au/home.htm > > > > > > --Charlene > > That's hiliarious!!! Wonder if they do a good business there? > > Jill Those Outback restaurants probably appeal mostly to tourists. Its the same in my area. I live near South Philadelphia where some of the countries finest Italian restaurants are located, but an Olive Garden opened up in that area a few years ago and it does a thriving business. These theme restaurant chains tend to appeal appeal to business travelers who want a known quantity when they dine out. |
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Stan Horwitz wrote:
> Those Outback restaurants probably appeal mostly to tourists. Its the > same in my area. I live near South Philadelphia where some of the > countries finest Italian restaurants are located, but an Olive Garden > opened up in that area a few years ago and it does a thriving business. > These theme restaurant chains tend to appeal appeal to business > travelers who want a known quantity when they dine out. My husband travels almost every week and he's just the opposite. He goes out of his way to find non-chain restaurants. --Charlene -- Signs that you're a Reenactor: No one will attend a historical film with you. -- http://www.gwerin.org.uk/silly/signs_that_you.htm email perronnelle at earthlink . net |
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![]() jmcquown wrote: > Zywicki wrote: > > Jill - have you checked out Chowhound.com or roadfood.com? They've > > got decent > > regional eating info. My favorite pre-travel planning is to figure > > out where I'm going to eat. > > > > Greg Zywicki > > Yep, Greg, I have. I don't often find things of interest on either of those > sites. One man's hamburger is another man's lobster so to speak. We > usually manage to find nice places to eat just by driving around. However, > I do Google for restaurants in a given area where we will be and print out > lists of things for reference. Luckily his next trip is in Memphis and I'm > definitely familiar with places to eat there ![]() > > Jill That begs for a report. mmmmm - Q. Greg Zywicki |
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![]() Dimitri wrote: > Not me - The last time I was at our local Macaroni Grill 4 of us were just back > from the jack Klugman 1 man show. > > Dimitri That is going to be the weirdest thing I'll read all week. Jack Klugman 1 man show. Huh. huh. Greg Zywicki Nothing wrong with it, per se. It just sounds sort of like, "I just got Sharon Gless' lateset CD." |
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![]() Peter Aitken wrote: > I have never understood this infatuation with Cracker Barrel. We have tried > it a few times while on the road and find the food mediocre at best and > downright poor at times. The ambience, if you can call it that, is > unbearably cornball country. The shop is full of uninteresting overpriced > junk. They are usually very crowded. What's the attraction? > > > -- > Peter Aitken Just a guess, but perhaps many people just don't agree with your assesment. It's one place I'll willingly go when on the road. The price and quality are well matched; the food is basically "good enough." It's one of the few chains were you can get food without some stupid badly flavored spice mix or sauce or trend ingredient wedged in sideways. You can order a plate of food that kids will eat without french fries or ketchup. Every town has a better restaurant than cracker barrel, as well as two or three that are worse. I can never tell by looking, and they're further in off the freeway. For example; in Frankenmuth, Michigan, there's a CB right off the highway and several restaurants as good or better (although some would argue overated) 1.5 to 2 miles further in to town. The uninformed or cynical traveller wouldn't bother with the extra drive. (And if you wish to be informed, if you ever go through, go to either Zhenders or Bavarian Inn and have a chicken dinner. It's not the world's best, but it's a local landmark sort of thing. Sort of like going to Paris and eating at a cafe or London and a Pub. After that, check out The Frankenmuth Brewery, if you like brewpub food.) Greg Zywicki |
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:04:52 -0500, "Hairy" > wrote:
>We have a hard time passing a Cracker Barrel, without stopping. I appreciate Cracker Barrel's books on tape rentals when I am on the road. You buy a book on tape at one Cracker Barrel then return it at any other Cracker Barrel. They keep three dollars per week as the rental fee. Tara |
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![]() "Zywicki" > wrote in message oups.com... > > > Dimitri wrote: >> Not me - The last time I was at our local Macaroni Grill 4 of us were just >> back >> from the jack Klugman 1 man show. >> >> Dimitri > > That is going to be the weirdest thing I'll read all week. Jack > Klugman 1 man show. Huh. > > huh. > > Greg Zywicki A few years ago at a small theater in Burbank - There was a lot of stuff about the Odd Couple TV series. There were quite a few of the out-takes and a bio of how he got started in the theater he was part of the original "12 Angry Men". And you he was able to speak after the cancer surgery - a very "gruff" but not a painful voice. Dimitri |
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On 10 Jun 2005 08:11:28 -0700, in rec.food.cooking, -L. wrote:
>jmcquown wrote: >> >> Hmmm, I'm not quite sure what they would put MSG in/on. We had prime rib, >> baked potatoes, steamed broccoli. Never heard of MSG being used on any of >> those food items. Sorry you had a bad reaction. > >I think it is in the marinade they use for the >steaks/chicken/mushrooms. Those are the things I ate that I could >relate it to. > >They may say they "add no MSG" or "don't add MSG" but then use a >pre-prepared marinade that does. One of the "DIY restaurant food" >websites cited MSG as a main ingredient to get your steaks to taste >like Outback's... So? That doesn't mean they use it. Look he http://recipes.robbiehaf.com/O/260.htm 1/4 tsp. monosodium glutamate (MSG) OR un-flavored meat tenderizer Doug -- Doug Weller -- exorcise the demon to reply Doug & Helen's Dogs http://www.dougandhelen.com A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk |
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:30:37 GMT, in rec.food.cooking, Tara wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:07:26 GMT, "Dimitri" > >wrote: > >>Good Report - any other chains people like - or will accept as decent? > >Maggiano's >P.F. Chang >Moe's Burritos >Waffle House >Original Pancake House Oh yeah, Original Pancake House is great! I don't get back to the US very often. I like Cracker Barrel because I like their biscuits and pancakes and yeah, I enjoy their shops. Probably reminds me of my childhood. I like Chic-Fil-A also. And Popeyes. I can eat in Michelin star restaurants at home, in the US I go for junk food! Doug -- Doug Weller -- exorcise the demon to reply Doug & Helen's Dogs http://www.dougandhelen.com A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk |
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Doug Weller wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:30:37 GMT, in rec.food.cooking, Tara wrote: > > >>On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:07:26 GMT, "Dimitri" > >>wrote: >> >> >>>Good Report - any other chains people like - or will accept as decent? >> >>Maggiano's >>P.F. Chang >>Moe's Burritos >>Waffle House >>Original Pancake House > > > Oh yeah, Original Pancake House is great! > > I don't get back to the US very often. I like Cracker Barrel because I > like their biscuits and pancakes and yeah, I enjoy their shops. Probably > reminds me of my childhood. > > I like Chic-Fil-A also. And Popeyes. I can eat in Michelin star > restaurants at home, in the US I go for junk food! > > Doug Pollo Loco makes great grilled chicken and decent sides, mostly good for you, and it's cheap. -- ================================================== ============= Regards Louis Cohen "Yes, yes, I will desalinate you, you grande morue!" Émile Zola, Assommoir 1877 |
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![]() "Louis Cohen" > wrote in message ... > Doug Weller wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:30:37 GMT, in rec.food.cooking, Tara wrote: > > > > > >>On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:07:26 GMT, "Dimitri" > > >>wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Good Report - any other chains people like - or will accept as decent? > >> > >>Maggiano's > >>P.F. Chang > >>Moe's Burritos > >>Waffle House > >>Original Pancake House > > > > > > Oh yeah, Original Pancake House is great! > > > > I don't get back to the US very often. I like Cracker Barrel because I > > like their biscuits and pancakes and yeah, I enjoy their shops. Probably > > reminds me of my childhood. > > > > I like Chic-Fil-A also. And Popeyes. I can eat in Michelin star > > restaurants at home, in the US I go for junk food! > > > > Doug > Pollo Loco makes great grilled chicken and decent sides, mostly good for > you, and it's cheap. > I used to LOVE El Pollo Loco when I lived in California. Don't they do a broasted chicken? It was wonderfully juicy and tender and had lots of flavor. And, yes, they had good sides, although I remember it being sort of pricey. Maybe that's changed with the invention of the $.99 hamburger. kili |
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:30:37 GMT, Tara > wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:07:26 GMT, "Dimitri" > >wrote: > >>Good Report - any other chains people like - or will accept as decent? One more favorite -- Mellow Mushroom Pizza. Sooooo good. Tara |
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On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 07:36:55 -0700, in rec.food.cooking, Louis Cohen
wrote: >Doug Weller wrote: >> On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:30:37 GMT, in rec.food.cooking, Tara wrote: >> >> >>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:07:26 GMT, "Dimitri" > >>>wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Good Report - any other chains people like - or will accept as decent? >>> >>>Maggiano's >>>P.F. Chang >>>Moe's Burritos >>>Waffle House >>>Original Pancake House >> >> >> Oh yeah, Original Pancake House is great! >> >> I don't get back to the US very often. I like Cracker Barrel because I >> like their biscuits and pancakes and yeah, I enjoy their shops. Probably >> reminds me of my childhood. >> >> I like Chic-Fil-A also. And Popeyes. I can eat in Michelin star >> restaurants at home, in the US I go for junk food! >> >> Doug >Pollo Loco makes great grilled chicken and decent sides, mostly good for >you, and it's cheap. Sounds good, but I don't get much west of Indiana. Doug -- Doug Weller -- exorcise the demon to reply Doug & Helen's Dogs http://www.dougandhelen.com A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk |
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Doug Weller wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 07:36:55 -0700, in rec.food.cooking, Louis Cohen > wrote: > > >>Doug Weller wrote: >> >>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:30:37 GMT, in rec.food.cooking, Tara wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:07:26 GMT, "Dimitri" > >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Good Report - any other chains people like - or will accept as decent? >>>> >>>>Maggiano's >>>>P.F. Chang >>>>Moe's Burritos >>>>Waffle House >>>>Original Pancake House >>> Original Pancake House is terrific. Il Fornaio is wonderful. Another of my favorites is Carabbas. Good calamari, wonderful mussels, mezzaluna (chicken/spinach ravioli), and very good veal and salmon. It is about impossible to get a reservation any day of the week before 9PM. at the newer Denver-area Maggiano's (I-25 @ Dry Creek, south of the Tech Center.) Pappadeaux (cajun-style seafood) is another favorite but I'm not sure they have enough "links" to be considered a chain. Yes, a good local restuarant can trump any of those but as quickly as many locals come and go, these chains are more dependable. gloria p |
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"Puester" > wrote in message
... > > Another of my favorites is Carabbas. Good calamari, wonderful > mussels, mezzaluna (chicken/spinach ravioli), and very good veal and > salmon. A Houston-based chain. The best location, IMO, is the original location on Kirby, in Houston. All the other locations (at least in the Houston area) fall short. > It is about impossible to get a reservation any day of the week before > 9PM. at the newer Denver-area Maggiano's (I-25 @ Dry Creek, south of > the Tech Center.) I've eaten at the Maggiano's in Houston a couple of times. Pretty decent food and huge portions. > > Pappadeaux (cajun-style seafood) is another favorite but I'm > not sure they have enough "links" to be considered a chain. The Pappas restaurants (Pappadeaux, Pappasitos, Pappas Seafood, Pappas BBQ, etc.) are all over the Houston area, as they're based in Houston. > Yes, a good local restuarant can trump any of those but as quickly > as many locals come and go, these chains are more dependable. I agree with that. Mary |
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