On 2005-06-13, jmcquown > wrote:

> Nichole is great! Did you ever see 'Dead Calm'? Creepy film.

One of my all-time favs!

> No one has mentioned Tom Hanks. His ability to morph into different
> characters, whether it's comedy or something as serious as 'Philadelphia' or
> 'The Road to Perdition' puts him right up there as a great actor. IMHO.

I've reach TH saturation, too. He used to be one of my favorite
comedy actors (Busom Buddies, Bachelor Party), but ever since
Philadelphia, his tragic and/or pathos-dripping everyman have left me
cold. I didn't think Tom could do anything worse than Forrest Dumb,
but he managed with the completly ridiculous Perdition and the
eye-rolling Castaway.

nb ...not big on tragedy

On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:38:52 GMT, "Jack Schidt®"
> connected the dots and wrote:

~
~"notbob" > wrote in message
...
~>
~> Just sittin' here drinking Manhattan's, watching Seven Samurai.
~>
~> Bonzai!
~>
~> nb
~
~You woke me up just to tell me THAT? Feh, cabron!
~
~Jack Sominex
~
Welcome back Jack! Y'know that bookstore just off the highway in the
yellow building in Mystic? It moved up my way, and has a whole room
devoted to cookbooks.

maxine in ri

"maxine in ri" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:38:52 GMT, "Jack Schidt®"
> > connected the dots and wrote:
>
> ~
> ~"notbob" > wrote in message
> ...
> ~>
> ~> Just sittin' here drinking Manhattan's, watching Seven Samurai.
> ~>
> ~> Bonzai!
> ~>
> ~> nb
> ~
> ~You woke me up just to tell me THAT? Feh, cabron!
> ~
> ~Jack Sominex
> ~
> Welcome back Jack! Y'know that bookstore just off the highway in the
> yellow building in Mystic? It moved up my way, and has a whole room
> devoted to cookbooks.
>
> maxine in ri

Hiya Maxine and that's good news! I wonder what took its place in Mystic.
Dontellmecasinostuff.

Jack

The Cook wrote:
> Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
> >On Sat 11 Jun 2005 09:56:29a, The Cook wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >>>Most of these films had scenes of elaborate meals and at least one man
> >>>or woman character who had indulged in too much alcohol. Everybody
> >>>drank and smoked, which was considered very cool. Remember The Man
> >>>Who Came To Dinner?
> >>
> >>
> >> We put on The Man Who Came to Dinner as the senior class play a couple
> >> of generations ago.
> >>
> >
> >It's a very funny play.
>
>
> I would probably appreciate it more now than I did then.
> --


We saw it on Broadway as a high school field trip. I thought then it
was hysterical. In middle school we saw Annie Get Your Gun with Ethel
Merman at Lincoln Center.

Sandi

notbob wrote:
> On 2005-06-13, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> Nichole is great! Did you ever see 'Dead Calm'? Creepy film.
>
> One of my all-time favs!
>
>> No one has mentioned Tom Hanks. His ability to morph into different
>> characters, whether it's comedy or something as serious as
>> 'Philadelphia' or 'The Road to Perdition' puts him right up there as
>> a great actor. IMHO.
>
> I've reach TH saturation, too. He used to be one of my favorite
> comedy actors (Busom Buddies, Bachelor Party), but ever since
> Philadelphia, his tragic and/or pathos-dripping everyman have left me
> cold. I didn't think Tom could do anything worse than Forrest Dumb,
> but he managed with the completly ridiculous Perdition and the
> eye-rolling Castaway.
>
> nb ...not big on tragedy

Castaway wasn't his best film, IMO. 'BIG' back in 1988 was fun.

I loved him in 'Forrest Gump', 'Philadelphia', 'The Green Mile' and 'The
Road to Perdition'. You may not be big on tragedy but the "Irish" mafia was
a very real thing back then and for all I know still is. 'The Ladykillers'
was an odd film and I think he only did it to have some fun. It was very
annoying to hear him do that sort of Bugs Bunny suck through his teeth
laugh.

I'll be interested in seeing him in 'The Da Vinci Code' which is due out in
2006.

Jill

In article >,
Siobhan Perricone > wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:59:44 -0500, Katra >
> wrote:
>
> >Once an actor gets a particular style of acting and sets a habit, some
> >tend to keep it. William Shatner did that, so that's probably why he did
> >not land many jobs after Star Trek.
>
> I don't think Shatner really has the depth of acting ability to stretch
> much. Lucille Ball was a really great dramatic actress earlier in her
> career, and she was also good as a witty foil (like Stage Door) to the
> seriousness of other actresses. I think it's a shame she went with all the
> physical, wacky humour but it worked for her, and from what little I've
> heard she did enjoy it. So good for her she was able to do a job that she
> liked.
>
> >I think, at this point, two of the more versatile actors that I REALLY
> >like are Val Kilmer (Real Genius, Willow, Batman to name three totally
> >different kinds of movies that he starred in) and Dustin Hoffman. His
> >rolls in "Tootsie" and "Hook" were total opposites! He is very flexible.
> >:-)
>
> Nicole Kidman is an AMAZING actress with great ability to stretch. If you
> have any doubt, watch The Hours. I knew she was in it, but I never figured
> out which character she was playing until I saw it go by in the credits,
> and I was astounded.
>
> She's the only reason I'm considering watching "Bewitched" when it becomes
> available on DVD.

I agree! She has surprised me also, but I've not seen The Hours yet.
I'll have to look for it.

I'm cheap. I tend to wait for DVD's to come down to $10.00 or $15.00. <G>
--
K.

Sprout the MungBean to reply

"I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell--you
see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain

In article >,
The Cook > wrote:

> Katra > wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> > notbob > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2005-06-12, Siobhan Perricone > wrote:
> >>
> >> > unwatchable. Lucille Ball was considered a great actress, she was one of
> >> > Hollywood's biggest stars in the late 40s early 50s, but as far as I can
> >> > tell her broad, low humor is an acquired taste, like the Three Stooges.
> >> > She
> >> > doesn't play Mame Dennis with as much of the sophistication that
> >> > Rosiland
> >> > Russel brought to the role....
> >>
> >> By the time she did Mame, LB had shed all her early sophistication
> >> and was left with nothing but cliched Lucy mannerisms. Having already
> >> reached toxic levels of Lucy saturation, I just couldn't take any more.
> >>
> >> nb
> >
> >That's what I was afraid of...
> >
> >Once an actor gets a particular style of acting and sets a habit, some
> >tend to keep it. William Shatner did that, so that's probably why he did
> >not land many jobs after Star Trek.
> >
> >I think, at this point, two of the more versatile actors that I REALLY
> >like are Val Kilmer (Real Genius, Willow, Batman to name three totally
> >different kinds of movies that he starred in) and Dustin Hoffman. His
> >rolls in "Tootsie" and "Hook" were total opposites! He is very flexible.
> >:-)
>
>
> And of course to very different characters for Hoffman are in "The
> Graduate" and "Midnight Cowboy."


I have yet to explore all of his films.

Thanks!
--
K.

Sprout the MungBean to reply

"I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell--you
see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> Siobhan Perricone wrote:
> > On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:59:44 -0500, Katra
> > > wrote:
> >
> > Nicole Kidman is an AMAZING actress with great ability to stretch. If
> > you have any doubt, watch The Hours. I knew she was in it, but I
> > never figured out which character she was playing until I saw it go
> > by in the credits, and I was astounded.
> >
> > She's the only reason I'm considering watching "Bewitched" when it
> > becomes available on DVD.
>
> Nichole is great! Did you ever see 'Dead Calm'? Creepy film.
>
> No one has mentioned Tom Hanks. His ability to morph into different
> characters, whether it's comedy or something as serious as 'Philadelphia' or
> 'The Road to Perdition' puts him right up there as a great actor. IMHO.
>
> Jill
>
>

He is getting better with age IMHO? :-)

I like him too!
--
K.

Sprout the MungBean to reply

"I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell‹you
see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> notbob wrote:
> > On 2005-06-13, jmcquown > wrote:
> >
> >> Nichole is great! Did you ever see 'Dead Calm'? Creepy film.
> >
> > One of my all-time favs!
> >
> >> No one has mentioned Tom Hanks. His ability to morph into different
> >> characters, whether it's comedy or something as serious as
> >> 'Philadelphia' or 'The Road to Perdition' puts him right up there as
> >> a great actor. IMHO.
> >
> > I've reach TH saturation, too. He used to be one of my favorite
> > comedy actors (Busom Buddies, Bachelor Party), but ever since
> > Philadelphia, his tragic and/or pathos-dripping everyman have left me
> > cold. I didn't think Tom could do anything worse than Forrest Dumb,
> > but he managed with the completly ridiculous Perdition and the
> > eye-rolling Castaway.
> >
> > nb ...not big on tragedy
>
> Castaway wasn't his best film, IMO. 'BIG' back in 1988 was fun.
>
> I loved him in 'Forrest Gump', 'Philadelphia', 'The Green Mile' and 'The
> Road to Perdition'. You may not be big on tragedy but the "Irish" mafia was
> a very real thing back then and for all I know still is. 'The Ladykillers'
> was an odd film and I think he only did it to have some fun. It was very
> annoying to hear him do that sort of Bugs Bunny suck through his teeth
> laugh.
>
> I'll be interested in seeing him in 'The Da Vinci Code' which is due out in
> 2006.
>
> Jill
>
>

Ooh Ooh Ooh! They are making The Da Vinci Code into a movie????

Thanks for the heads up! :-) I was not aware.

I watch almost no TV. At all.
--
K.

Sprout the MungBean to reply

"I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell‹you
see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain

On 2005-06-14, Katra > wrote:
>
> Ooh Ooh Ooh! They are making The Da Vinci Code into a movie????
>

Me either. I wasn't even aware it had a story line. So, just what is
The Da Vinci Code? It's been getting all this media attention and I
still don't know what the deal is, other than something about the
continuing bloodline of Christ. One can only hope it doesn't reach
Michael Jackson or Paris Hilton. :\

nb

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:29:47 -0500, notbob > wrote:

>On 2005-06-14, Katra > wrote:
>>
>> Ooh Ooh Ooh! They are making The Da Vinci Code into a movie????
snip "So, just what is The Da Vinci Code?

Well I think it's "...-..--....----." . I may have a dot or dash in
the wrong spot

Katra wrote:
> In article >,
> The Cook > wrote:
>
>> Katra > wrote:
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> notbob > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2005-06-12, Siobhan Perricone > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> unwatchable. Lucille Ball was considered a great actress, she was
>>>>> one of Hollywood's biggest stars in the late 40s early 50s, but
>>>>> as far as I can tell her broad, low humor is an acquired taste,
>>>>> like the Three Stooges. She
>>>>> doesn't play Mame Dennis with as much of the sophistication that
>>>>> Rosiland
>>>>> Russel brought to the role....
>>>>
>>>> By the time she did Mame, LB had shed all her early sophistication
>>>> and was left with nothing but cliched Lucy mannerisms. Having
>>>> already reached toxic levels of Lucy saturation, I just couldn't
>>>> take any more.
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>>
>>> That's what I was afraid of...
>>>
>>> Once an actor gets a particular style of acting and sets a habit,
>>> some
>>> tend to keep it. William Shatner did that, so that's probably why
>>> he did not land many jobs after Star Trek.
>>>
>>> I think, at this point, two of the more versatile actors that I
>>> REALLY
>>> like are Val Kilmer (Real Genius, Willow, Batman to name three
>>> totally different kinds of movies that he starred in) and Dustin
>>> Hoffman. His
>>> rolls in "Tootsie" and "Hook" were total opposites! He is very
>>> flexible. :-)
>>
>>
>> And of course to very different characters for Hoffman are in "The
>> Graduate" and "Midnight Cowboy."
>
>
> I have yet to explore all of his films.
>
> Thanks!

Anne Bancroft, who died about a week ago, was the adult seductress of young
Dustin Hoffman in 'The Graduate'. Mother of her daughters boyfriend and all
that. A very bold film for its time but one which Bancroft would never live
down. I adored her portrayal of Annie Sullivan in 'The Miracle Worker'
(Patty Duke's first child film role, and which she reprised as Bancroft's
character of Annie Sullivan years later).

Jill

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:29:47 -0500, notbob > wrote:

>On 2005-06-14, Katra > wrote:
>>
>> Ooh Ooh Ooh! They are making The Da Vinci Code into a movie????

>Me either. I wasn't even aware it had a story line. So, just what is
>The Da Vinci Code? It's been getting all this media attention and I
>still don't know what the deal is, other than something about the
>continuing bloodline of Christ. One can only hope it doesn't reach
>Michael Jackson or Paris Hilton. :\

As I read it, I felt it would make a movie along the lines of "Three
Days of the Condor." If you strip away the attention-generating
devices about bloodline and a secret society, it's basically a
fast-paced romp, two people running around over the course of a couple
of days trying to solve a puzzle with others chasing them to kill them
before they find out something. Sound familiar?

I'm sure it will be a fun movie.

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:19:52 GMT, (Curly
Sue) wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:29:47 -0500, notbob > wrote:
>
>>On 2005-06-14, Katra > wrote:
>>>
>>> Ooh Ooh Ooh! They are making The Da Vinci Code into a movie????
>
>>Me either. I wasn't even aware it had a story line. So, just what is
>>The Da Vinci Code? It's been getting all this media attention and I
>>still don't know what the deal is, other than something about the
>>continuing bloodline of Christ. One can only hope it doesn't reach
>>Michael Jackson or Paris Hilton. :\
>
>As I read it, I felt it would make a movie along the lines of "Three
>Days of the Condor." If you strip away the attention-generating
>devices about bloodline and a secret society, it's basically a
>fast-paced romp, two people running around over the course of a couple
>of days trying to solve a puzzle with others chasing them to kill them
>before they find out something. Sound familiar?
>
>I'm sure it will be a fun movie.
>
What chaps me is that Leonardo's last name wasn't da Vinci. He had no
family name. He was illegitimate. The town he came from was called
Vinci. He was the Leonardo with no father from Vinci.

But the movie will surely be fun, as you say.


modom

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:29:47 -0500, notbob > wrote:

>On 2005-06-14, Katra > wrote:
>>
>> Ooh Ooh Ooh! They are making The Da Vinci Code into a movie????
>>
>
>Me either. I wasn't even aware it had a story line. So, just what is
>The Da Vinci Code? It's been getting all this media attention and I
>still don't know what the deal is, other than something about the
>continuing bloodline of Christ. One can only hope it doesn't reach
>Michael Jackson or Paris Hilton. :\
>
>nb


People can find what they want in anything.

Moby Dick fortold the deaths of Lincoln, Kennedy, Martin Luther King,
Yitzhak Rabin and Princess Di. ;-)

http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/moby.html



Rusty

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:41:54 -0500, modom >
connected the dots and wrote:

~On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:19:52 GMT, (Curly
~Sue) wrote:
~
~>On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:29:47 -0500, notbob >
wrote:
~>
~>>On 2005-06-14, Katra > wrote:
~>>>
~>>> Ooh Ooh Ooh! They are making The Da Vinci Code into a movie????
~>
~>>Me either. I wasn't even aware it had a story line. So, just what
is
~>>The Da Vinci Code? It's been getting all this media attention and
I
~>>still don't know what the deal is, other than something about the
~>>continuing bloodline of Christ. One can only hope it doesn't reach
~>>Michael Jackson or Paris Hilton. :\
~>
~>As I read it, I felt it would make a movie along the lines of "Three
~>Days of the Condor." If you strip away the attention-generating
~>devices about bloodline and a secret society, it's basically a
~>fast-paced romp, two people running around over the course of a
couple
~>of days trying to solve a puzzle with others chasing them to kill
them
~>before they find out something. Sound familiar?
~>
~>I'm sure it will be a fun movie.
~>
~What chaps me is that Leonardo's last name wasn't da Vinci. He had
no
~family name. He was illegitimate. The town he came from was called
~Vinci. He was the Leonardo with no father from Vinci.
~
~But the movie will surely be fun, as you say.
~
~
~modom

IIRC, until the 15th or 16th century, only the wealthy or landed folks
had surnames. The rest of us were maxine of ri or michael odomson or
Alton the Brown or Emeril Souschef.

The bloodlines the book's talking about are Jesus', and who is his
descendant today. IIRC, the Church gave this book a huge boost by
condemning it.

maxine in ri

On Tue 14 Jun 2005 11:29:47a, notbob wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 2005-06-14, Katra > wrote:
>>
>> Ooh Ooh Ooh! They are making The Da Vinci Code into a movie????
>>
>
> Me either. I wasn't even aware it had a story line. So, just what is
> The Da Vinci Code? It's been getting all this media attention and I
> still don't know what the deal is, other than something about the
> continuing bloodline of Christ. One can only hope it doesn't reach
> Michael Jackson or Paris Hilton. :\

Now on that we agree 100%!


--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

jmcquown wrote:
> notbob wrote:
> > On 2005-06-13, jmcquown > wrote:
> >
> >> Nichole is great! Did you ever see 'Dead Calm'? Creepy film.
> >
> >> No one has mentioned Tom Hanks. His ability to morph into different
> >> characters, whether it's comedy or something as serious as
> >> 'Philadelphia' or 'The Road to Perdition' puts him right up there as
> >> a great actor. IMHO.

The movie didn't get good reviews, but his recent "The Terminal" was
one I really enjoyed. But I enjoy everything he does.
> >
>
> I'll be interested in seeing him in 'The Da Vinci Code' which is due out in
> 2006.
>
> Jill

Go to apple.com/trailers to watch a mini-trailer of DVC - I think
summer of '06. I've got to tackle the book before then, although the
subject matter really doesn't interest me at all.

N.

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:41:54 -0500, modom > wrote:

>On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:19:52 GMT, (Curly
>Sue) wrote:
<snip>

The DaVinci Code
>>As I read it, I felt it would make a movie along the lines of "Three
>>Days of the Condor." If you strip away the attention-generating
>>devices about bloodline and a secret society, it's basically a
>>fast-paced romp, two people running around over the course of a couple
>>of days trying to solve a puzzle with others chasing them to kill them
>>before they find out something. Sound familiar?
>>
>>I'm sure it will be a fun movie.
>>
>What chaps me is that Leonardo's last name wasn't da Vinci. He had no
>family name. He was illegitimate. The town he came from was called
>Vinci. He was the Leonardo with no father from Vinci.
>
>But the movie will surely be fun, as you say.

Coincidentally, today there was a column in the NY Times on illusion
of facts, opening with the example of The DaVinci Code.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/15/op...schiff.html?hp

Aside from agreeing with her basic thesis, I was amused to read that
she also felt that it read like a movie:
"I have nothing against a fine thriller, especially one that claims
the highest of literary honors: it's a movie on the page."

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

"Siobhan Perricone" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:59:44 -0500, Katra >
> wrote:
>
>>Once an actor gets a particular style of acting and sets a habit, some
>>tend to keep it. William Shatner did that, so that's probably why he did
>>not land many jobs after Star Trek.
>
> I don't think Shatner really has the depth of acting ability to stretch
> much.

I wish I'd seen him on stage. He started at "The Stratford Shakespearean
Festival" when it was in its infancy and after 3 years went on to Broadway.

Gabby

> wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Go to apple.com/trailers to watch a mini-trailer of DVC - I think
> summer of '06. I've got to tackle the book before then, although the
> subject matter really doesn't interest me at all.

It was a good thriller if you didn't get caught up in the all the made-up
stuff. It had plot holes that you could drive a truck through. When little
old me looks at a code and breaks it in 1 nanosecond but a cryptographer for
the FBI can't there's either a lack of research by the author or need for
suspension of disbelief far greater than I can muster.

Gabby