Oprah does a lot of good works, but she also has told many versions of
her early pregnancy and giving birth. Today she gave back-flip of her
hand and said, "I don't know, I've never been pregnant". I have heard
her on earlier shows saying that she had a baby at an early age (12 or
13) that was (version #1) "born dead" or (version #2) "died later".
Now, according to her, it never happened at all.
Moral: Don't lie on TV. It will catch up with you.

"nancree" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Oprah does a lot of good works, but she also has told many versions of
> her early pregnancy and giving birth. Today she gave back-flip of her
> hand and said, "I don't know, I've never been pregnant". I have heard
> her on earlier shows saying that she had a baby at an early age (12 or
> 13) that was (version #1) "born dead" or (version #2) "died later".
> Now, according to her, it never happened at all.
> Moral: Don't lie on TV. It will catch up with you.

It sounds as though she has in fact tripped herself up, but what precisely
was she referring to this time? The only version I've ever heard was that
she had a child at a very early age, a child who died very young. If you
say to me "you know what it's like to get up each night for feedings", if
I've never experienced that I might say "I don't know I've never had a
child." without going into all the painful details of my life.

Gabby

"nancree" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Oprah does a lot of good works, but she also has told many versions of
> her early pregnancy and giving birth. Today she gave back-flip of her
> hand and said, "I don't know, I've never been pregnant". I have heard
> her on earlier shows saying that she had a baby at an early age (12 or
> 13) that was (version #1) "born dead" or (version #2) "died later".
> Now, according to her, it never happened at all.
> Moral: Don't lie on TV. It will catch up with you.
>

You know, Oprah has done a lot of good stuff with her money so I can forgive
her a few little fibs and transgressions. Boy, if Paris Hilton had
flip-flopped like this, I'd really be ****ed off. LOL.

What does it matter, really? In the grand scheme of things?

chula

"chula" > wrote in message
>>
>
> You know, Oprah has done a lot of good stuff with her money so I can
> forgive
> her a few little fibs and transgressions.
>
> What does it matter, really? In the grand scheme of things?
>
> chula

Integrity. You either have it or you don't.

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "chula" > wrote in message
> >>
> >
> > You know, Oprah has done a lot of good stuff with her money so I can
> > forgive
> > her a few little fibs and transgressions.
> >
> > What does it matter, really? In the grand scheme of things?
> >
> > chula
>
> Integrity. You either have it or you don't.



EXCELLENT reply Ed!!

itsjoannotjoann wrote:
> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> > "chula" > wrote in message
> > >>
> > >
> > > You know, Oprah has done a lot of good stuff with her money so I can
> > > forgive
> > > her a few little fibs and transgressions.
> > >
> > > What does it matter, really? In the grand scheme of things?
> > >
> > > chula
> >
> > Integrity. You either have it or you don't.
>
>
>
> EXCELLENT reply Ed!!

And, so what has this to do with cooking? Other than Spam. Just a jab
attaack at celebritiesi who earn more than some posters?

"nancree" > wrote in message
oups.com...

> Moral: Don't lie on TV. It will catch up with you.
>
I dunno. My impression was that she kept the pregnancy a secret after being
raped by some uncle, and that when she finally had to tell her father she
was so traumatized she miscarried. I wouldn't classify it as a normal
pregnancy and I don't know the context of her comments. If what I construed
is true, I forgive her.

> wrote in message
>
> And, so what has this to do with cooking? Other than Spam. Just a jab
> attaack at celebritiesi who earn more than some posters?
>

How is it Spam? It isn't, but since you post from and edu account, I
understand.

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> And, so what has this to do with cooking? Other than Spam. Just a jab
> attaack at celebritiesi who earn more than some posters?

It was marked "OT" as in "off-topic". If you didn't want to read it you
didn't have to.

Gabby

"chula" > wrote in message
...
>
> "nancree" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > Oprah does a lot of good works, but she also has told many versions of
> > her early pregnancy and giving birth. Today she gave back-flip of her
> > hand and said, "I don't know, I've never been pregnant". I have heard
> > her on earlier shows saying that she had a baby at an early age (12 or
> > 13) that was (version #1) "born dead" or (version #2) "died later".
> > Now, according to her, it never happened at all.
> > Moral: Don't lie on TV. It will catch up with you.
> >
>
> You know, Oprah has done a lot of good stuff with her money so I can
forgive
> her a few little fibs and transgressions. Boy, if Paris Hilton had
> flip-flopped like this, I'd really be ****ed off. LOL.
>
> What does it matter, really? In the grand scheme of things?
>
> chula

And, who TF is 'Oprah'?!?!?



Shaun aRe...

"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "chula" > wrote in message
> >>
> >
> > You know, Oprah has done a lot of good stuff with her money so I can
> > forgive
> > her a few little fibs and transgressions.
> >
> > What does it matter, really? In the grand scheme of things?
> >
> > chula
>
> Integrity. You either have it or you don't.
>
>

I have to disagree with that. I think most(all) of us have told a lie at
some point. Does that mean we are all devoid of integrity?
H

Hairy wrote:
> "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> . ..
>>
>> "chula" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>
>>> You know, Oprah has done a lot of good stuff with her money so I can
>>> forgive
>>> her a few little fibs and transgressions.
>>>
>>> What does it matter, really? In the grand scheme of things?
>>>
>>> chula
>>
>> Integrity. You either have it or you don't.
>>
>>
>
> I have to disagree with that. I think most(all) of us have told a lie
> at some point. Does that mean we are all devoid of integrity?
> H

Most of us aren't on national television. However, I agree with another
assessment that there are different degrees of being a mother. She may
never have had to deal with what was said in the context of the show (and I
don't know, I didn't see it) so her statement may have been true in that
regard. OTOH, I don't watch Oprah and really don't care if she's been a
mother or not.

Jill

" wrote:
>
> And, so what has this to do with cooking? Other than Spam. Just a jab
> attaack at celebritiesi who earn more than some posters?

Don't you mean "celebrities who earn more than all posters
combined"?

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

"Hairy" > wrote in message
Ed wrote
>> Integrity. You either have it or you don't.
>>
>>
>
> I have to disagree with that. I think most(all) of us have told a lie at
> some point. Does that mean we are all devoid of integrity?
> H

Most of us have told a lie or stretched the truth in cases like "Honest
officer, I thought I was doing only 45". OTOH, when you are telling lies to
further your career, make money you could not otherwise, or make others
think you are something you are no for the same reasons, you have no
integrity.

Most of our politician, for instance, have none.

"Edwin Pawlowski" > said:

>Most of us have told a lie or stretched the truth in cases like "Honest
>officer, I thought I was doing only 45".

Honest to God, this is a whimsical question. I don't know how to state it
so it'll come across that way, though. Truly, I was chuckling as I
thought, "It's okay to lie when in assists you in breaking the law?"
Please don't take this as a challenge or a put-down. I'm a little punchy
right now, and I just thought the example was hilarious. I'm sure it won't
be funny if/when I get a good night's sleep.

>OTOH, when you are telling lies to
>further your career, make money you could not otherwise, or make others
>think you are something you are not for the same reasons, you have no
>integrity.

Ask me anything. Anything.

Carol

--
CLICK DAILY TO FEED THE HUNGRY
United States:
http://www.stopthehunger.com/
International:
http://www.thehungersite.com/

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:38:13 -0500, "Hairy" > wrote:

>I have to disagree with that. I think most(all) of us have told a lie at
>some point. Does that mean we are all devoid of integrity?

Harry? Is this Harry D? Where have you been, boy?

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

Shaun aRe wrote:
>
> And, who TF is 'Oprah'?!?!?
>
>
>

American talk show personality.

Sandi

nancree wrote:
> Oprah does a lot of good works, but she also has told many versions of
> her early pregnancy and giving birth. Today she gave back-flip of her
> hand and said, "I don't know, I've never been pregnant". I have heard
> her on earlier shows saying that she had a baby at an early age (12 or
> 13) that was (version #1) "born dead" or (version #2) "died later".
> Now, according to her, it never happened at all.

Actually she said that she doesn't have kids, or never had kids.
That's different from saying she's never gave birth. The baby she had
at 14 died, and I doubt she would try to lie about it since she talked
extensively about it in A&E's biography which was the highest rated
show in the history of A&E

"Damsel" > wrote in message
...
> "Edwin Pawlowski" > said:
>
>>Most of us have told a lie or stretched the truth in cases like "Honest
>>officer, I thought I was doing only 45".
>
> Honest to God, this is a whimsical question. I don't know how to state it
> so it'll come across that way, though. Truly, I was chuckling as I
> thought, "It's okay to lie when in assists you in breaking the law?"
> Please don't take this as a challenge or a put-down. I'm a little punchy
> right now, and I just thought the example was hilarious. I'm sure it
> won't
> be funny if/when I get a good night's sleep.

It is sort of funny, but most all of us have done it. Yes, it is breaking
the law, but no, it does not cause anyone else physical or financial harm.

Most of us consider ourselves law abiding citizens, but yet we will drive 5
or 10 mph above the posted limit.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/

"Sandi" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
>
> Shaun aRe wrote:
> >
> > And, who TF is 'Oprah'?!?!?
> >
> >
> >
>
> American talk show personality.

I apologise if my facetiousness missed its mark! ',;~}~

Oh, and I think you accidentally added the word 'personality' to your
description <G!>

Shaun aRe

In article > , "Edwin
Pawlowski" > wrote:
> Most of us have told a lie or stretched the truth in cases like
> "Honest officer, I thought I was doing only 45".

Not me. What I said the other night was, "Oh gosh -- I was going with
the traffic flow." What he really wanted to know was if I was belted in
(I was, as is my habit) -- he SAID so -- but he could only stop me for
a moving violation. Gave me a warning for the speeding and I thanked
him for his consideration. If I'd had a jar of jam in the car, I'd have
given it to him. :-)

> OTOH, when you are telling lies to further your career, make money
> you could not otherwise, or make others think you are something you
> are no for the same reasons, you have no integrity.

> Most of our politician, for instance, have none.

I think Jimmy Carter was the last decent president we had. Didn't get
him very far.


* Exported from MasterCook Mac *

Chokecherry Jelly/Certo

Recipe By : posted to rec.food.cooking by Barb Schaller 6/16/2005
Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Canning, Preserves, Etc.

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
3 cups chokecherry juice
6 1/2 cups sugar
1 bottle liquid fruit pectin (Certo) -- (2 foil pouches)
1/4 tsp. almond extract (optional)

Pour juice into large kettle. Add sugar and stir to mix. Place over
high heat and bring to a boil, stirring constantly. Stir in pectin,
bring to a full rolling boil and boil hard 1 minute, stirring
constantly. Remove from heat and stir and skim for 5 minutes. Add
extract. Seal in hot jars. Makes about 9 half pints. Note: Almond
extract gives a stronger cherry taste.

Note: 9/15/92: Made half a batch using about 1 cup potent chokecherry
juice and 3/4 cup commercial cherry blend juice (Dole) with 3-1/4 cups
sugar and one pouch Certo. Clear and beautiful! Worked fine! Able to
cook it up in 3-quart Farberware saucepan. Made 4 half pint jars.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Per serving (excluding unknown items): 5031 Calories; 0g Fat (0%
calories from fat); 0g Protein; 1299g Carbohydrate; 0mg Cholesterol;
13mg Sodium
Food Exchanges: 84 1/2 Fruit; 87 Other Carbohydrates

NOTES : Source: This one is from Farm Journal Freezing & Canning
Cookbook, page 216. Same recipe from General Foods (makes Certo and
Sure Jell) in about 1986.
_____
--
-Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> 6/6/05 Sam I Am!
June 25, 1945: Me and Carly Simon. I wonder if she makes jam.
(It's not too early to shop -- good chocolate and cheap gin.
Or is it cheap chocolate and good gin? I never
remember. No jam--coal to Newcastle and all that. "-)

In article > , "Edwin
Pawlowski" > wrote:
> Most of us consider ourselves law abiding citizens, but yet we will
> drive 5 or 10 mph above the posted limit.

Slow down if you're in MN. We've been put on notice that until July 6,
the law is on the hunt for speeders. Fair enough.

* Exported from MasterCook Mac *

Rhubarb-Ginger Jam

Recipe By : Pulled from net 5-27-03; posted to rfc by Barb Schaller
6-16-2005
Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Canning, Preserves, Etc.

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
3 pounds rhubarb
3 Tablespoons minced fresh ginger
4 drops red food color
1 package pectin
5 cups sugar

Chop rhubarb into 1/2-inch chunks. (The fresher the rhubarb, the better
the taste of the jam. I try for a 15-minute maximum.) Place in large
stock pot with 1/4 cup water and cook until rhubarb is soft. Add ginger
and pectin; cook over high heat, stirring constantly until mixture
reaches a full rolling boil (can not be stirred down). Add sugar all at
once, and bring back to a full rolling boil. Cook, stirring constantly,
for 2 full minutes. Remove from heat and add food color. Jar and process.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Per serving (excluding unknown items): 4278 Calories; 2g Fat (0%
calories from fat); 9g Protein; 1099g Carbohydrate; 0mg Cholesterol;
170mg Sodium
Food Exchanges: 68 Fruit; 70 1/2 Other Carbohydrates

NOTES : Old Town Bed and Breakfast Inn Eureka, California
http://www.virtualcities.com/ons/ca/n/can26035.htm

_____
--
-Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> 6/6/05 Sam I Am!
June 25, 1945: Me and Carly Simon. I wonder if she makes jam.
(It's not too early to shop -- good chocolate and cheap gin.
Or is it cheap chocolate and good gin? I never
remember. No jam--coal to Newcastle and all that. "-)

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article > , "Edwin
> Pawlowski" > wrote:
>
>>Most of us have told a lie or stretched the truth in cases like
>>"Honest officer, I thought I was doing only 45".
>
>
> Not me. What I said the other night was, "Oh gosh -- I was going with
> the traffic flow." What he really wanted to know was if I was belted in
> (I was, as is my habit) -- he SAID so -- but he could only stop me for
> a moving violation. Gave me a warning for the speeding and I thanked
> him for his consideration. If I'd had a jar of jam in the car, I'd have
> given it to him. :-)
>

Only one jar? how mean of you

Try this excuse on one of those "Officers":
"Ossifer, I am not as drank as many thinkle peep.... I've only had tee
martoonies and I am as jober as a sudge.... <hic>" (this is where they
bring out the handcuffs)...
Cathy

Sandi wrote:
> Shaun aRe wrote:
> >
> > And, who TF is 'Oprah'?!?!?
> >
> >
> >
>
> American talk show personality.
>
> Sandi

And NOW, she's a Zulu. Right. I wish she'd move to Zulu country and
give this country a break.

N.

Shaun aRe wrote:
> "chula" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "nancree" > wrote in message
> > oups.com...
> > > Oprah does a lot of good works, but she also has told many versions of
> > > her early pregnancy and giving birth. Today she gave back-flip of her
> > > hand and said, "I don't know, I've never been pregnant". I have heard
> > > her on earlier shows saying that she had a baby at an early age (12 or
> > > 13) that was (version #1) "born dead" or (version #2) "died later".
> > > Now, according to her, it never happened at all.
> > > Moral: Don't lie on TV. It will catch up with you.
> > >
> >
> > You know, Oprah has done a lot of good stuff with her money so I can
> forgive
> > her a few little fibs and transgressions. Boy, if Paris Hilton had
> > flip-flopped like this, I'd really be ****ed off. LOL.
> >
> > What does it matter, really? In the grand scheme of things?
> >
> > chula
>
> And, who TF is 'Oprah'?!?!?


She's the world's ONLY black billionaire.

> wrote in message
oups.com...
>
>
> Shaun aRe wrote:
> > "chula" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "nancree" > wrote in message
> > > oups.com...
> > > > Oprah does a lot of good works, but she also has told many versions
of
> > > > her early pregnancy and giving birth. Today she gave back-flip of
her
> > > > hand and said, "I don't know, I've never been pregnant". I have
heard
> > > > her on earlier shows saying that she had a baby at an early age (12
or
> > > > 13) that was (version #1) "born dead" or (version #2) "died later".
> > > > Now, according to her, it never happened at all.
> > > > Moral: Don't lie on TV. It will catch up with you.
> > > >
> > >
> > > You know, Oprah has done a lot of good stuff with her money so I can
> > forgive
> > > her a few little fibs and transgressions. Boy, if Paris Hilton had
> > > flip-flopped like this, I'd really be ****ed off. LOL.
> > >
> > > What does it matter, really? In the grand scheme of things?
> > >
> > > chula
> >
> > And, who TF is 'Oprah'?!?!?
>
>
> She's the world's ONLY black billionaire.

Nice to know she has at least *something* going for her then ',;~}~



Shaun aRe - Sorry folks, knew who she was, just can't stand those kinds of
shows, or the hosts either...

>> She's the world's ONLY black billionaire.

That is not correct. There are many a few examples:

Bob Johnson founder Black Entertainment Television- $3 billion

Michael Lee-Chin(yes he's black) owner AIC Mutual Fund Investment
Company

Oprah

Do a search under "black billionaires".

rmg wrote:
> "nancree" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>
> > Moral: Don't lie on TV. It will catch up with you.
> >
> I dunno. My impression was that she kept the pregnancy a secret after being
> raped by some uncle, and that when she finally had to tell her father she
> was so traumatized she miscarried. I wouldn't classify it as a normal
> pregnancy and I don't know the context of her comments. If what I construed
> is true, I forgive her.

I never gave much credence to her abuse claims - who's to know, after
all - I thought it was just a play for more attention and sympathy.
But then, I can't stand to watch/hear/see the woman, myself.
Regardless of the "good works," I think she's basically an egotistical
self-centered you-know-what. And that's just for starters.

N.

Shaun aRe wrote:
> Nice to know she has at least *something* going for her then ',;~}~
>
>
>
> Shaun aRe - Sorry folks, knew who she was, just can't stand those kinds of
> shows, or the hosts either...

Someone should clue her in on what being descended from a "Zulu" really
means, given their history in Africa.

N.

> wrote in message
oups.com...
>
>
> rmg wrote:
>> "nancree" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>>
>> > Moral: Don't lie on TV. It will catch up with you.
>> >
>> I dunno. My impression was that she kept the pregnancy a secret after
>> being
>> raped by some uncle, and that when she finally had to tell her father she
>> was so traumatized she miscarried. I wouldn't classify it as a normal
>> pregnancy and I don't know the context of her comments. If what I
>> construed
>> is true, I forgive her.
>
> I never gave much credence to her abuse claims - who's to know, after
> all - I thought it was just a play for more attention and sympathy.
> But then, I can't stand to watch/hear/see the woman, myself.
> Regardless of the "good works," I think she's basically an egotistical
> self-centered you-know-what. And that's just for starters.
>
> N.
>

Attitudes like yours are a big reason that so much abuse is never reported.

kimberly

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:14:01 -0700, "Nexis" > wrote:

>
> wrote in message
roups.com...
>>
>>
>> rmg wrote:
>>> "nancree" > wrote in message
>>> oups.com...
>>>

>>
>
>Attitudes like yours are a big reason that so much abuse is never
reported.
>
>kimberly
>
Thank you Kimberly. I agree with you.

aloha,
Thunder




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