Your tips for producing the perfect barbecued steak ?
 

What are your best cooking tips for producing the perfect barbecued
steak, in your opinion ?

Your tips for producing the perfect barbecued steak ?
 

you cant barbeque steak, you can only grill it

true BBQ is pork , and is cooked all day

but well with that cleared up, if you intend to BBQ steak, do you mean you
will slow cook it, what kind of rub or seasoning do you want to use

when i cook steak on the BBQ Grill, i usually use a rub, let it sit in the
fridge fro about 3 hours before it gets cooked. i first cook over a high
flame to sear in the juices, on both sides, and to get theose nice grill
marks, then i move it to the top rack, and let it cook

it really varies on the cooking lenght thought for the cut of meat and
thickness

-S
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> What are your best cooking tips for producing the perfect barbecued
> steak, in your opinion ?

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On 4/28/2004 7:48 AM Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these
great (and sometimes not so great) words of knowledge:

I use Adolph's Meat marinade (not the Steak marinade) and marinade it
for 4 hours - overnight in a plastic ziplock bag (turn every couple of
hours). Grill for about 6 minutes per side on medium heat (1" - 1 1/4"
thick) on a gas grill for medium rare - medium. Everyone who has had
them this way loves them. One BIG benefit of this is, if you "over
cook" the steak, it still comes out moist, not a piece of shoe leather.
(One too many beers while grilling) :)

> What are your best cooking tips for producing the perfect barbecued
> steak, in your opinion ?

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"DB" > wrote in message
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> What are your best cooking tips for producing the perfect barbecued
> steak, in your opinion ?

By BBQ I assume you mean grilled? It's quite simple - the main problem is
getting the fire temperature right and knowing when it's done.

1) Use high quality meat.
2) Use the right cut. My favorites are rib eye and NY strip.
3) Rub meat with S&P and let come to room temp before cooking. Pat dry with
paper towels.
4) Get a good hot charcoal fire going.
5) Preheat grate and rub with oil.
6) Put steak on - do not move for a while.
7) Flip with tongs, not a fork.
8) Let sit for a few minutes after removing from the grill.

I like to use a cut that is about 1.5 inches thick. I know thicker cuts are
prized by some, but I have never mastered the art of cooking them. If the
fire's hot enough to give me a nice crust, then the outside gets
over-charred before the steak is done (medium rare). I expect a more skilled
grill-man could avoid this problem.


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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 11:53:03 GMT, "S" > wrote:

>you cant barbeque steak, you can only grill it
>
>true BBQ is pork , and is cooked all day

Or beef (brisket, ribs) or chicken or sausage or...

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> "Peter Aitken" wrote:
>
>I like to use a cut that is about 1.5 inches thick. I know thicker cuts are
>prized by some, but I have never mastered the art of cooking them. If the
>fire's hot enough to give me a nice crust, then the outside gets
>over-charred before the steak is done (medium rare). I expect a more skilled
>grill-man could avoid this problem.

No real skill involved... grill thick steaks the same as you would pan fry them
indoors... with high heat get a good crust both sides, then instead of placing
the pan in the oven finish your thick steak (which is essentially a roast) by
grilling over medium *indirect* heat with grill lid closed. With experience
one becomes accustomed to interpolating cooking time with accuracy, until then
check occasionally with an instant read thermometer. The only real trick is to
learn your grill. Of course Weber makes this easy, by including an accurate
thermometer and infinitely adjustable flame controls, and that the right side
if a Weber gas grill is always hotter than the left side.


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DB > wrote:
> What are your best cooking tips for producing the perfect barbecued
> steak, in your opinion ?

White hot coals, quality piece of steak, a few minutes per side
until the meat is firm to the touch. That's it for me.

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You mean grilled. Start with a good steak. Or, if you have no so good a
steak, marinate it.

Take the steak out the 'fridge with enough time so that the whole piece of
meat comes to room temp.

Season with salt and pepper just before you place it on the grill.

Grill over high heat. Turn at least once.

When the meat is done to your taste, take it off the grill and let it rest a
couple of minutes, at least until you no longer see wisps of steam coming up
from the meat.

Enjoy with friends and a nice glass of wine.

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> What are your best cooking tips for producing the perfect barbecued
> steak, in your opinion ?

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PENMART01 wrote:

> The only real trick is to learn your grill.


Yep... even with my roommate's el cheapo walmart special I can take an
otherwise nuclear-charred piece of steak and turn it into a wonderful
masterpiece... the trick is (as Sheldon said) *learning* your grill...
but for me (instead of indirect heat) it's 4 minutes on one side as hot
as the grill will go - followed by 4 minutes on the other side... then
it's a 10 minute rest... then 4 minutes into a 400 degree oven... I know
it sounds like a weird timing combination but it works... I swear to the
god the steak comes out perfect every time... maybe it's the order of
magnitude by four...

~john


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"Louis Cohen" > wrote in message >...
> You mean grilled.

fwiw, the word 'barbequed' is synonymous with 'grilled' in some parts
of the country. You see, barbeque can mean 'outdoor grilling,' when
'grilling' can be indoors or outdoors (such as using the George
Forman's grill, or using a ceramic stovetop grill.)

Karen

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> fwiw, the word 'barbequed' is synonymous with 'grilled' in some parts
> of the country. You see, barbeque can mean 'outdoor grilling,' when
> 'grilling' can be indoors or outdoors (such as using the George
> Forman's grill, or using a ceramic stovetop grill.)
>
> Karen

i agree karen, in lots of places the term barbeque is interpreted as
"cooking outdoors on the grill" but the technical culinary purist around
here will argue semantics with you all day long. some will even insult you
in the process ;)

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"A.C." > wrote in message >...
> i agree karen, in lots of places the term barbeque is interpreted as
> "cooking outdoors on the grill" but the technical culinary purist around
> here will argue semantics with you all day long. some will even insult you
> in the process ;)

Goodness, what's next?

Soda or pop or coke?

Nauseous or nauseated?

"Here! Here!" or "Hear! Hear!"?

The meaning of authentic?....

Slowly we turn, step by step, forever sweet and crunchy, Karen

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"Karen O'Mara" > wrote in message
om...
> "A.C." > wrote in message
>...
> > i agree karen, in lots of places the term barbeque is interpreted as
> > "cooking outdoors on the grill" but the technical culinary purist around
> > here will argue semantics with you all day long. some will even insult
you
> > in the process ;)
>
>
> "Here! Here!" or "Hear! Hear!"?
>

This one does not belong in your list because there is no question that
"here here" is wrong.


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Peter Aitken wrote:
> "Karen O'Mara" > wrote in message
> om...
>
>>"A.C." > wrote in message
>
> >...
>
>>>i agree karen, in lots of places the term barbeque is interpreted as
>>>"cooking outdoors on the grill" but the technical culinary purist around
>>>here will argue semantics with you all day long. some will even insult
>
> you
>
>>>in the process ;)
>>
>>
>>"Here! Here!" or "Hear! Hear!"?
>>
>
>
> This one does not belong in your list because there is no question that
> "here here" is wrong.
>
>

Unless you an enthusiastic primary grade student answering role call.


jim

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In rec.food.cooking, Karen O'Mara > wrote:

> fwiw, the word 'barbequed' is synonymous with 'grilled' in some parts
> of the country.

But does that make the usage correct? Words have meanings, no matter how
many mangled usages exist in the backwater.

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- The Who

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> wrote in message
...
> In rec.food.cooking, Karen O'Mara > wrote:
>
> > fwiw, the word 'barbequed' is synonymous with 'grilled' in some parts
> > of the country.
>
> But does that make the usage correct? Words have meanings, no matter how
> many mangled usages exist in the backwater.
>

Yes it does. The meaning of words derives ultimately from the way people use
them, not from a dictionary. Of course if a few people start using a word in
a new way it does not suddenly become "correct," but if a substantial part
of the population does then it is a different matter. I can't say where
exactly the line should be drawn, but when you have at least 100 million
people in this country using "barbequed" to mean "grilled" it certainly is
over the line. It doesn't mean that the older meaning is suddenly wrong, it
just means there are two correct meanings.


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"Karen O'Mara" > wrote in message
om...
> wrote in message
>...
> > But does that make the usage correct? Words have meanings, no matter
how
> > many mangled usages exist in the backwater.
>
> Heavens, yes.
>
> Take the word, "nauseous," for example.
>
> A lot of people say, "I'm nauseous." This actually means, "I make you
> sick." The correct term is, "I feel nauseated."
>
> However, this is changing as more people are using the word,
> "nauseous" incorrectly. Few people say, "I'm nauseous," meaning that
> they make someone else sick, rather that they feel sick themselves.
> Few people say, "I'm nauseated," even though this is the correct way
> to relay the message that they're not feeling well.
>

"Nauseous" has had the primary meaning of "feeling nauseated" for a long
time. The OED from 80 years ago lists this meaning as "obsolete" - in other
words this meaning had been in common use previously but was going out of
favor when the dictonary was published. This meaning has been back in favor
for quite a while - my 12 year old Websters lists it as the preferred
meaning of the word. The preferred word for "causing nausea" is
nauseate/nauseating.


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On Mon, 03 May 2004 18:16:43 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
> arranged random neurons, so they looked like
this:

>"Karen O'Mara" > wrote in message
. com...
>> wrote in message
>...
>> > But does that make the usage correct? Words have meanings, no matter
>how
>> > many mangled usages exist in the backwater.
>>
>> Heavens, yes.
>>
>> Take the word, "nauseous," for example.
>>
>> A lot of people say, "I'm nauseous." This actually means, "I make you
>> sick." The correct term is, "I feel nauseated."
>>
>> However, this is changing as more people are using the word,
>> "nauseous" incorrectly. Few people say, "I'm nauseous," meaning that
>> they make someone else sick, rather that they feel sick themselves.
>> Few people say, "I'm nauseated," even though this is the correct way
>> to relay the message that they're not feeling well.
>>
>
>"Nauseous" has had the primary meaning of "feeling nauseated" for a long
>time. The OED from 80 years ago lists this meaning as "obsolete" - in other
>words this meaning had been in common use previously but was going out of
>favor when the dictonary was published. This meaning has been back in favor
>for quite a while - my 12 year old Websters lists it as the preferred
>meaning of the word. The preferred word for "causing nausea" is
>nauseate/nauseating.

Googling in support...

Merriam-Webster Online:

Main Entry: nau·seous
Pronunciation: 'no-sh&s, 'no-zE-&s
Function: adjective
1 : causing nausea or disgust : NAUSEATING
2 : affected with nausea or disgust
- nau·seous·ly adverb
- nau·seous·ness noun
usage Those who insist that nauseous can properly be used only in
sense 1 and that in sense 2 it is an error for nauseated are mistaken.
Current evidence shows these facts: nauseous is most frequently used
to mean physically affected with nausea, usually after a linking verb
such as feel or become; figurative use is quite a bit less frequent.
Use of nauseous in sense 1 is much more often figurative than literal,
and this use appears to be losing ground to nauseating. Nauseated is
used more widely than nauseous in sense 2.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret
had been as old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had
been as full as the waitress', it would have been a very
good dinner." Anonymous.

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"Terry Pulliam Burd" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 03 May 2004 18:16:43 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
> > arranged random neurons, so they looked like
> this:
>
> >"Karen O'Mara" > wrote in message
> . com...
> >> wrote in message
> >...
> >> > But does that make the usage correct? Words have meanings, no matter
> >how
> >> > many mangled usages exist in the backwater.
> >>
> >> Heavens, yes.
> >>
> >> Take the word, "nauseous," for example.
> >>
> >> A lot of people say, "I'm nauseous." This actually means, "I make you
> >> sick." The correct term is, "I feel nauseated."
> >>
> >> However, this is changing as more people are using the word,
> >> "nauseous" incorrectly. Few people say, "I'm nauseous," meaning that
> >> they make someone else sick, rather that they feel sick themselves.
> >> Few people say, "I'm nauseated," even though this is the correct way
> >> to relay the message that they're not feeling well.
> >>
> >
> >"Nauseous" has had the primary meaning of "feeling nauseated" for a long
> >time. The OED from 80 years ago lists this meaning as "obsolete" - in
other
> >words this meaning had been in common use previously but was going out of
> >favor when the dictonary was published. This meaning has been back in
favor
> >for quite a while - my 12 year old Websters lists it as the preferred
> >meaning of the word. The preferred word for "causing nausea" is
> >nauseate/nauseating.
>
> Googling in support...
>

<dictionary definition snipped>

In support of what? I never denied that one meaning of nauseous is "causing
nausea." I did deny that the other meaning "feeling nauseated" is a new or
incorrect meaning as you had claimed.

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"Peter Aitken" > wrote in message > ...
> In support of what? I never denied that one meaning of nauseous is "causing
> nausea." I did deny that the other meaning "feeling nauseated" is a new or
> incorrect meaning as you had claimed.

To get back to grilling/bbq'ing... my sister told me that she was
going to grill a tri-tip at her barbeque. The barbeque was the event.
The grilling was the method.

I thought this was interesting. She acquired the 'grilling' term while
living in Denver, and still uses the 'bbq' term that she grew up with
in Sacramento. When I asked her about it, she said grilling and
barbequeing were synonymous to her. She's no help.

Karen

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In rec.food.cooking, Karen O'Mara > wrote:

> The barbeque was the event. The grilling was the method.

Even to a purist in the fron****er, that is a correct formulation.

Except for the spelling, of course :)

--
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- The Who

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In rec.food.cooking, BubbaBob > wrote:
> (DB) wrote:

> > What are your best cooking tips for producing the perfect
> > barbecued steak, in your opinion ?
> >

> Steak is NEVER barbecued. It's grilled. Preferably at the highest
> temperature possible. Barbecuing would tune steak into shoe leather.


Hey - as long as we're already argueing about the fine points, that
"highest temperature possible" stuff is not correct. It depends on the
thickness of the steak, the degree of doneness, and other factors.

Try cooking a THICK steak to medium rare on a 1200 degree grill. If you
like 1/4 inch of black char on the outside, then you'll be in heaven.

The "highest temperature possible" applies only to low temperature
equipment, like a gas grill. Those little puppies can barely break 700
degrees. But if you are using other types of grills, you need to match
the temp to the job at hand.

Personally, I like to use a fairly hot fire to char the outside. But
I usually have a hot and a cool side to the grill, so if the inside is
not yet done, I move the steak over to the cool side to finish it off,
usually with the cover on.

I use a Weber Kettle, so I use "fairly hot" in a manner which differs
from those who use Kamados and Eggs. Those damn cookers can melt glass
if you use a lot of lump charcoal and a lot of airflow. And they can
turn a porterhouse into charcoal in no time, if you use the highest
temperature possible.

But I know what you meant. I just wanted to argue. And to see if
Shelly-boy would jump in to defend his beloved gas grill. :)

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- The Who

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On Tue, 04 May 2004 13:03:50 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
> arranged random neurons, so they looked like
this:

>"Terry Pulliam Burd" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 03 May 2004 18:16:43 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
>> > arranged random neurons, so they looked like
>> this:
>>
>> >"Karen O'Mara" > wrote in message
>> . com...
>> >> wrote in message
>> >...
>> >> > But does that make the usage correct? Words have meanings, no matter
>> >how
>> >> > many mangled usages exist in the backwater.
>> >>
>> >> Heavens, yes.
>> >>
>> >> Take the word, "nauseous," for example.
>> >>
>> >> A lot of people say, "I'm nauseous." This actually means, "I make you
>> >> sick." The correct term is, "I feel nauseated."
>> >>
>> >> However, this is changing as more people are using the word,
>> >> "nauseous" incorrectly. Few people say, "I'm nauseous," meaning that
>> >> they make someone else sick, rather that they feel sick themselves.
>> >> Few people say, "I'm nauseated," even though this is the correct way
>> >> to relay the message that they're not feeling well.
>> >>
>> >
>> >"Nauseous" has had the primary meaning of "feeling nauseated" for a long
>> >time. The OED from 80 years ago lists this meaning as "obsolete" - in
>other
>> >words this meaning had been in common use previously but was going out of
>> >favor when the dictonary was published. This meaning has been back in
>favor
>> >for quite a while - my 12 year old Websters lists it as the preferred
>> >meaning of the word. The preferred word for "causing nausea" is
>> >nauseate/nauseating.
>>
>> Googling in support...
>>
>
><dictionary definition snipped>
>
>In support of what? I never denied that one meaning of nauseous is "causing
>nausea." I did deny that the other meaning "feeling nauseated" is a new or
>incorrect meaning as you had claimed.

Huh? I didn't claim anything. I merely posted the dictionary
definition and I was posting in support of *your* claim. I haven't
snipped so you can eyeball the attributes. Jeez Louise.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret
had been as old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had
been as full as the waitress', it would have been a very
good dinner." Anonymous.

To reply, remove replace "spaminator" with "cox"