cathyxyz wrote:
> sf wrote:
>
>
> OTOH... garlic is a "must" for all things meaty.
>
> And most things "fishy"
> Cheers
> Cathy
>
>

IMO, garlic is a must nearly 100% of the time.

--

saerah

"It's not a gimmick, it's an incentive."- asterbark, afca

aware of the manifold possibilities of the future

"I think there's a clause in the Shaman's and Jujumen's Local #57 Union
contract that they have to have reciprocity for each other's shop rules."
-König Prüß

Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Sun 26 Jun 2005 10:02:15p, Damsel wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > Bill > said:
> >
> >> In article >,
> >> Damsel > wrote:
> >>
> >> > What are some foods you've discovered since becoming a grown-up?
> >>
> >> Garlic. We never had garlic at home. I don't think I tasted it until I
> >> was about 20. Can you imagine.
> >
> > Come to think of it, I don't recall ever seeing cloves of garlic at home,
> > either. Maybe that's why I naturally reach for the granulated garlic.
> > Hmmmm.
> >
> > Are you a total garlic freak now?
> >
> > Carol
> >
> Mom had a spice rack containing garlic powder, sage, savory, paprika,
> cinnamon, cloves, nutmeg, and ginger.
> I began cooking while in junior high school and exploring the supermarket
> spice racks. I'd ask for new spices as recipes required. I was in college
> before I actually bout fresh garlic. Never looked back!
> Wayne Boatwright *¿*

There's much to be said for travelling outside your own
neighborhood. We had some pretty weird concoctions
as kids, mostly soups, but since then I've discovered and love:
chile peppers, 'oriental' foods of all kinds, Mexican foods,
Gingerroot, seafood other than fishsticks.
Edrena

"Damsel" > wrote in message
...
> "I-zheet M'drurz" > said:
>
> I forgot ... I never tried red peppers as a kid, either. LOVE them!
>
> > My "story" is a little different - I've discovered things that
> > mom used to cook, but I was too stubborn/spoiled to even try. I
> > was stupid as a kid, when it came to eating good, healthy food.
> >
> > Veggies were my biggest discovery, you couldn't get me near
> > cabbage, peppers, carrots, etc when I was young. OK, so I *still*
> > don't do broccoli or asparagus, but I've come a long way since
> > then.
>
> Things I'll eat now that I wouldn't then, generally because of the
> preparation method:
> Split pea soup (I still can't eat the standard recipe)
> Ribs
> The aforementioned broccoli and asparagus
>
> I still maintain that parsnips are the work of the devil.
>
> Carol, attaching the Good Split Pea Soup Recipe
>
>
> * Exported from MasterCook *
>
> Damsel's Spicy Split Pea Soup
>
> Recipe By amsel in dis Dress
> Serving Size : 8 Preparation Time :0:00
> Categories : legumes soups/chowders
>
> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
> -------- ------------ ------------------------------*--
> 1/4 pound bacon
> 1/2 pound pepperoni -- 1/2" cubes
> 5 medium carrots -- sliced 1/4" thick
> 1 medium onion -- chopped fine
> 1 clove garlic -- smashed and chopped
> 16 ounces split peas
> 5 cups water
> 1/8 teaspoon ground allspice
> 1/8 teaspoon ground cloves
> 1/4 teaspoon ground pepper
> 1/2 teaspoon salt
> 1/2 teaspoon dried thyme
> 1 bay leaf
>
> In a large skillet, fry bacon until crisp. Remove bacon from pan, and set
> aside. Add pepperoni to the drippings, frying until browned; remove to
> large saucepan. Add onions and garlic to the drippings. Saute until
> onions become translucent, then add to the saucepan.
>
> Place dry split peas into the saucepan, along with the water. Add
carrots,
> then stir in the herbs and spices.
>
> Bring to a boil, and reduce heat to low. Cook, covered, for 45 minutes,
or
> until peas just begin to break down. Add more water, if necessary.
Remove
> bay leaf. Garnish each serving with crumbled bacon.


Thank you, this looks loverly!

Lisa aka Pagemaster

Damsel > wrote in
:


> Carol, attaching the Good Split Pea Soup Recipe
>
>
> Damsel's Spicy Split Pea Soup


Carol,

That looks great, except where's the celery? Can't wait for colder
weather to try it!!! Food of the Gods stuff!

Thanks,

--
Andy
http://tinyurl.com/bczgr

On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:13:55 -0500, Damsel >
wrote:

>What are some foods you've discovered since becoming a grown-up? Trendy
>stuff doesn't count.
>

I've discovered a lot of things that Mom wouldn't have cooked
(Mexican, Chinese, and other ethnic foods), but that's to be expected.
When and where I was growing up these weren't around. But we had
plenty of other great food to keep us occupied.

As far as what she wouldn't and still won't make, that I like:

Lamb. My mother had a revulsion to it while she was pregnant and it
stayed with her.

Raw spinach. She still won't eat spinach unless it's *cooked*.

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

Bob (this one) wrote:
> Damsel wrote:
>
>>
>> What are some foods you've discovered since becoming a grown-up? Trendy
>> stuff doesn't count.
>


>
> Meats? Lion, hippo, snake, llama, bear, elk, boar...
> Seafood? Barracuda, sea urchin, shark...
> Spices? Cinnabar and cormorant.

Cinnamon and coriander, maybe?
I was with you until this line, but AFAIK, cinnabar is
mercuric sulfide and cormorant is a skinny black diving bird
that frequents our neighborhood lake. That makes me doubt
you have eaten either one.

gloria p

"Damsel" <
,snip,
> Things I'll eat now that I wouldn't then, generally because of the
> preparation method:
> <snip>


Hey Dams,

You left a few things off of your list:
certain types of sushi...chicken feet...

SNORT


Sorry, wicked sense of humor today... guess who is experiencing her 7th cold
since moving here? ARRGGHH!! Enough already!

Cyndi

"Lisa Smith" > said:

> Lisa aka Pagemaster

Blast from the past! Have you been posting all along, and I've just missed
you? Dayam! How've you been?

Carol

--
Coming at you live, from beautiful Lake Woebegon

Andy <Q> said:

> Damsel > wrote in
> :
>
> > Damsel's Spicy Split Pea Soup
>
> Carol,
>
> That looks great, except where's the celery? Can't wait for colder
> weather to try it!!! Food of the Gods stuff!

Feel free to add celery. Never crossed my mind.

Carol

--
Coming at you live, from beautiful Lake Woebegon

Damsel wrote:
>
> I keep discovering new foods that have always been there, but that Mom
> never cooked, and I can't figure out why. I would love to share some of
> these things with her!
>
> Flank steak
> Pork tenderloin
> Ocean fish - except for fish sticks, the only fish we had at home were the
> ones that Dad caught, killed, and filleted (*never* a bone)
> Fresh broccoli - I would have eaten steamed broccoli
> Fresh asparagus - ditto
>
> What are some foods you've discovered since becoming a grown-up? Trendy
> stuff doesn't count.
>
> Carol

Trendy is relative LOL. As is 'grownup'.

Lamb
Chiles
Seaweed
Squid/octopus
Coriander/cilantro leaves
Tripe
Fish sauce
Jicama
Posole
Indian/Thai/Caribbean/Middle Eastern/Japanese etc food

Damsel wrote:
>> I keep discovering new foods that have always been there, but that
>> Mom never cooked, and I can't figure out why. I would love to share
>> some of these things with her!
<snip>
>>
>>
>> What are some foods you've discovered since becoming a grown-up?
>> Trendy stuff doesn't count.
>>


Mom was a basic meat and potato type of cook. Fresh veggies were reserved
for the summer from our garden and in the fall we got a bushel of apples.
Everything else was canned or frozen. (Mom would freeze garden surplus or
pickle for winter months). Any ethnic food was not to be seen. Everything
was well done including veggies which probably explains why I am so anal
about cooking the dang things right! Meat was roasted, potatoes were boiled
and mashed. For a treat she wouldn't mash them! lol It was easier writing
what we ate rather than what I have discovered. The one thing we did have
more of than I have now due to availability mainly is game. Dad was an avid
hunter and fisherman and as a result we had lots of venison, moose, bear,
duck, geese and local fish.

Debbie

"Rick & Cyndi" > said:

> "Damsel"
> ,snip,
> > Things I'll eat now that I wouldn't then, generally because of the
> > preparation method:
> > <snip>
>
> Hey Dams,
>
> You left a few things off of your list:
> certain types of sushi...chicken feet...
>
> SNORT

Bitch.

I still say that chicken feet look like the hands of baby aliens. I know
this to be true because when I was abducted, they made me babysit their
young.

> Sorry, wicked sense of humor today... guess who is experiencing her 7th cold
> since moving here? ARRGGHH!! Enough already!

No kidding! Sorry to hear you're sick.

Carol

--
Coming at you live, from beautiful Lake Woebegon

Restaurant meals.....

Other than the occasional wedding reception,
all meals were "home cooked".

I think my first restaurant meal was on prom night.


<rj>

I almost forgot the home cooking that
I DIDN'T look forward to;

boiled Boiled BOILED cabbage.
Cauliflower boiled 'til it was mush.
canned ( gray-green ) peas
slimey canned asparagus

mutton that you could smell cooking....on the front porch.

<rj>

"Damsel" > wrote in message
...
> "Lisa Smith" > said:
>
> > Lisa aka Pagemaster
>
> Blast from the past! Have you been posting all along, and I've just
missed
> you? Dayam! How've you been?
>
> Carol
>
> --
> Coming at you live, from beautiful Lake Woebegon


I'm good! don't post but once in a blue moon but I read all the time. DD is
19 and out of the house (but home for dinner ALL the time, nothin' like
mom's cookin!) DH and I started a new business this past November. No more
seasonal tourist stuff for us anymore. If you remember we owned a airbrush
shop in Lake Ozarks MO for about 20 years. Now we do signs. we work 9:30 to
5 and we live two minutes away instead of 45 minutes away Which is just
perfect for this 41 year old aging body. Those 13-14 hour days at the lake
were gettin' kinda hard. And thats about it! More info than ya needed, hunh?
;0)

And here's something about food to make this on-topic: Mom never, ever fried
anything. If she did it was "get out the haz-mat suit, we're going in!" I
fry food (fish, chicken etc.)about every two weeks for DH cause he likes it.
I like it too but not as much. Otherwise I don't think there's anything that
mom wouldn't fix.

Lisa aka Pagemaster

sf wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:13:55 -0500, Damsel wrote:
>
> > What are some foods you've discovered since becoming a grown-up? Trendy
> > stuff doesn't count.
>
> Mom was a picky eater all grown up, so if she didn't lke it - we
> didn't eat it.
>

My father didn't like lamb of Brussels sprouts, so we never got them, and
because he grew up on a rabbit ranch and ate rabbit a lot during the
Depression, that was another thing we never had at home. He also had an
aversion to anything served with eyes.

On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:13:55 -0500, Damsel >
wrote:

>I keep discovering new foods that have always been there, but that Mom
>never cooked, and I can't figure out why. I would love to share some of
>these things with her!
>
>Flank steak
>Pork tenderloin
>Ocean fish - except for fish sticks, the only fish we had at home were the
> ones that Dad caught, killed, and filleted (*never* a bone)
>Fresh broccoli - I would have eaten steamed broccoli
>Fresh asparagus - ditto
>
>What are some foods you've discovered since becoming a grown-up? Trendy
>stuff doesn't count.
>
What if you're the guy the trends start with? Ahem...

American food has changed a buttload since I was a kid. We have fire
now for instance. But my circumstances are so very different from
those of my parents that much of my food choices have to be different.
Well, they don't have to, but they do differ.

When I was a kid, I had three sisters and a stay-at-home mom. My dad
made decent money as an engineer at TI, but it still had to stretch
farther than the parents probably wanted. That said, my mom was and
still is a fine cook. Raised in Baton Rouge, she was well acquainted
with creole and cajun cooking, and with the influence of general
southern US cooking behind her she was able to cook up some fine
dishes even after we all moved to Dallas.

The first time D came over to meet the folks, mom served appetizers of
crab-stuffed mushroom caps in an herbed wine and butter sauce. D was
stunned. If it didn't come out of a can an get fried, it wasn't food
at her house.

I guess it's my grilling techniques -- largely self taught -- that
don't show up in my childhood foods. Tonight, for example, I grilled
chicken thighs which had been marinated in fish sauce, tamarind
nectar, garlic, lemon juice and a little jalapeno. The marinade was
strained and reduced to make a sauce for the chicken.

The grilled tomatoes stuffed with crab salad that I made were mostly
mom, however.


modom

Carol wrote:
>What are some foods you've discovered since becoming a grown-up? Trendy
>stuff doesn't count.

Hmm...Salmon, definitely. I mean, Gramma used to make Salmon patties,
but I had no idea what just salmon tasted like until I was an adult.
Ditto with most other ocean fish.

Other than that, my folks were pretty adventurous with food. No, wait,
it's not that they were adventurous, it's that Daddy kept killing
things and bringing them home for us to eat! Do you have any idea how
long it takes to eat an entire black bear? The deer and moose always
went fast, but those bears lasted *forever*!

Daddy introduced me to lobster when I was 14, and to escargot when I
was 16...I fell in love with both. (Especially escargot - anything
that requires *that* much garlic is heaven!)

Lisa Ann

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:34:15 GMT, Puester wrote:

> cinnabar is mercuric sulfide

I thought it was used to dye wood... silly me.

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 01:18:24 -0400, "Bob (this one)" >
wrote:


>Spices? Cinnabar and cormorant.

Cinnabar? You're sure? I once tried to season my food with a
cormorant but couldn't catch one... (yer being funny, right?)

Hope

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:38:10 -0500, Andy wrote:

> Mom never cooked any Southern dishes.
> Mom never cooked any Mexican dishes.
> Mom never cooked any Asian dishes.
> Mom never cooked anything "spicy-hot."

Did your friends parents commonly make those types of things if it
wasn't their heritage? If not, she wasn't unusual for your area.

Hope wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 01:18:24 -0400, "Bob (this one)" >
> wrote:
>
>>Spices? Cinnabar and cormorant.
>
> Cinnabar? You're sure? I once tried to season my food with a
> cormorant but couldn't catch one... (yer being funny, right?)

Funny? Me? Not a bit of it. When have I ever been funny?

No, seriously...

Pastorio

Puester wrote:
> Bob (this one) wrote:
>
>> Damsel wrote:
>>
>>> What are some foods you've discovered since becoming a grown-up? Trendy
>>> stuff doesn't count.
>>
>> Meats? Lion, hippo, snake, llama, bear, elk, boar...
>> Seafood? Barracuda, sea urchin, shark...
>> Spices? Cinnabar and cormorant.
>
> Cinnamon and coriander, maybe?
> I was with you until this line, but AFAIK, cinnabar is
> mercuric sulfide and cormorant is a skinny black diving bird
> that frequents our neighborhood lake. That makes me doubt
> you have eaten either one.

I was wondering when someone would pick up on my puckish sense of humor.
Neither is edible. Oh, you can eat a cormorant is you want to eat bird
flesh that tastes like fish, but once will be more than enough. It was a
joke. Cinnabar will kill you.

But aside from those minor quibbles, I'm sure they'd both enhance any
dinner.

No, seriously...

Pastorio

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:41:32 GMT, Curly Sue wrote:

> As far as what she wouldn't and still won't make, that I like:
>
> Lamb. My mother had a revulsion to it while she was pregnant and it
> stayed with her.
>
I don't know why, but my mother made leg of lamb (no other part of the
carcass) several times a year. So, I love lamb, but it has to be
American lamb. I get an off taste from NZ lamb 98% of the time...
can't say I've ever eaten Austrailian lamb, so I have no opinion about
it.

> Raw spinach. She still won't eat spinach unless it's *cooked*.

LOL! I can't remember eating spinach (as a kid) unless it was cooked
too... raw just wasn't part of our vernacular. However, the idea of
eating "baby spinach" wasn't entertained either (it just wasn't
something people did at that time), so it stands to reason.

OTOH, I ate cooked carrots at my best friends house, but they were
never on the menu at home.

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:36:04 -0600, Arri London wrote:
>
> Trendy is relative LOL. As is 'grownup'.
>
> Lamb
> Chiles
> Seaweed
> Squid/octopus
> Coriander/cilantro leaves
> Tripe
> Fish sauce
> Jicama
> Posole
> Indian/Thai/Caribbean/Middle Eastern/Japanese etc food

"Yeahbut" what did you never have the opportunity to eat? If you were
presented with all those things at home, you were blessed.

Of the entire list your presented, the only thing I was given the
opportunity to eat at home was lamb and only one "cut"... leg.

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:48:52 -0700, <RJ> wrote:

> canned ( gray-green ) peas

Oh, gawd.... I can relate to that! I didn't like peas (and my
grandfather had a garden, so he grew them) until I was an adult. I
finally figured out that it was a combination of "mature pea" and over
cooking that turned me off. Of course, Mom just opened a can so you
know what she did to it. After I moved to California, I discovered
frozen petit peas and I've liked them ever since. In fact they are a
staple in my freezer to date.

On 27 Jun 2005 11:01:45 -0700, Dean G. wrote:

> I would have eaten more
> asparagus if it were...grilled.

<it was/they were>

I love asparagus! I like it steamed and I like it grilled, too...
IMO: roasted (with EVOO & garlic) is absolutely sublime.

"Bob (this one)" > wrote in message
...
> I was wondering when someone would pick up on my puckish sense of
> humor. Neither is edible. Oh, you can eat a cormorant is you want to
> eat bird flesh that tastes like fish, but once will be more than
> enough. It was a joke. Cinnabar will kill you.

I just thought you were having a bad day!

Ophelia

sf > wrote in news:mgj1c15bc3tblgegvrcbq61mj861rp4lof@
4ax.com:

> On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:38:10 -0500, Andy wrote:
>
>> Mom never cooked any Southern dishes.
>> Mom never cooked any Mexican dishes.
>> Mom never cooked any Asian dishes.
>> Mom never cooked anything "spicy-hot."
>
> Did your friends parents commonly make those types of things if it
> wasn't their heritage? If not, she wasn't unusual for your area.


Don't know what others ate because we never discussed it. The only issue
growing up was who was taller amongst us, on any given day, perpetuated
by the birthday pencil tickmarks in the kitchen doorway.

I only ate bread and butter and wouldn't have known what I was missing
anyway.

--
Andy
http://tinyurl.com/bczgr

sf wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:48:52 -0700, <RJ> wrote:
>
> > canned ( gray-green ) peas
>
> Oh, gawd.... I can relate to that! I didn't like peas (and my
> grandfather had a garden, so he grew them) until I was an adult. I
> finally figured out that it was a combination of "mature pea" and over
> cooking that turned me off. Of course, Mom just opened a can so you
> know what she did to it. After I moved to California, I discovered
> frozen petit peas and I've liked them ever since. In fact they are a
> staple in my freezer to date.

Try nibbling on the frozen ones.
Edrena

"Dean G." wrote:

>
> We had fresh fruits and veggies, but like you, I would have eaten more
> asparagus if it were...grilled.
>

I would have eaten more if it were offered. I like it grilled as a
variation, but there is nothing wrong with boiled or steamed asparagus. It
is one vegetable that I think always goes better with lots of butter and
lots of salt.

sf wrote:

>
> Oh, gawd.... I can relate to that! I didn't like peas (and my
> grandfather had a garden, so he grew them) until I was an adult. I
> finally figured out that it was a combination of "mature pea" and over
> cooking that turned me off. Of course, Mom just opened a can so you
> know what she did to it. After I moved to California, I discovered
> frozen petit peas and I've liked them ever since. In fact they are a
> staple in my freezer to date.

What is it about peas. I have two brothers and a sister in law who
absolutely hate peas. I don't understand it. I like them fresh, frozen,
even canned. I can't figure out what it is about peas that so many people
dislike. My only problem with fresh peas is the cost and the work
involved. My wife brought home a small basket of fresh peas on the
weekend. She spent close to a half hour to shell half the basket and we
had enough for 3 or 4 forks full each.

sf wrote:

> I don't know why, but my mother made leg of lamb (no other part of the
> carcass) several times a year. So, I love lamb, but it has to be
> American lamb. I get an off taste from NZ lamb 98% of the time...
> can't say I've ever eaten Austrailian lamb, so I have no opinion about
> it.

It may be that it is the only part of a lamb that you can cook and feed any
number of people that is affordable.

I have no problem with NZ lamb. It used to be a little stronger tasting
than our local lamb, but either I got used to it or it got milder. It is
also considerably cheaper than domestic lamb. One of our local stores
sells boneless lamb legs. I sometimes cut them into cubes and marinate for
kebobs.


>
>
> > Raw spinach. She still won't eat spinach unless it's *cooked*.
>
> LOL! I can't remember eating spinach (as a kid) unless it was cooked
> too... raw just wasn't part of our vernacular. However, the idea of
> eating "baby spinach" wasn't entertained either (it just wasn't
> something people did at that time), so it stands to reason.

I prefer raw spinach to cooked, and if cooked, it should be cooked for less
than a minute. Otherwise it develops a horrible taste. The same with
Brussels sprouts. They are delicious if served with a slight crunch, but
horrible when cooked until soft.

> OTOH, I ate cooked carrots at my best friends house, but they were
> never on the menu at home.

I will eat cooked carrots if they are served to me, but I never cook them
for myself. I prefer them raw. They are tasty when roasted.

sf wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:38:10 -0500, Andy wrote:
>
> > Mom never cooked any Southern dishes.
> > Mom never cooked any Mexican dishes.
> > Mom never cooked any Asian dishes.
> > Mom never cooked anything "spicy-hot."
>
> Did your friends parents commonly make those types of things if it
> wasn't their heritage? If not, she wasn't unusual for your area.

They were totally unknown to us in the 50s. Grocery stores were
smaller and carried basic stock only. The produce section was tiny
because we had only seasonal things most of the time, no exotic fruits
and vegetables, no herbs, except dill at pickling time. Kiwis,
mangoes, papayas, nectarines, did not exist.

Dave Smith wrote:
> sf wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:38:10 -0500, Andy wrote:
> >
> > > Mom never cooked any Southern dishes.
> > > Mom never cooked any Mexican dishes.
> > > Mom never cooked any Asian dishes.
> > > Mom never cooked anything "spicy-hot."
> >
> > Did your friends parents commonly make those types of things if it
> > wasn't their heritage? If not, she wasn't unusual for your area.
>
> They were totally unknown to us in the 50s. Grocery stores were
> smaller and carried basic stock only. The produce section was tiny
> because we had only seasonal things most of the time, no exotic fruits
> and vegetables, no herbs, except dill at pickling time. Kiwis,
> mangoes, papayas, nectarines, did not exist.

I think you must have lived in an isolated area ... when I take a look
at some of my late 50s-60s cookbooks, there are Mexican, Asian and
"other" ethnic recipes all over ... hummus comes to mind, as one. They
may not have been perfectly authentic, but they were in the books. I
remember we had mangoes at the supermarket because we had just moved
back to the midwest from Florida, where they were regular fare. We
also had nectarines and a lot more easily-found Key limes then, than
today. ;-)

N.

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:26:02 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:

> He also had an aversion to anything served with eyes.

AGREE! It's kinda creepy when your dinner looks back at you.

LOL

On 28 Jun 2005 07:28:02 -0700, wrote:

>
>
> Dave Smith wrote:
> > sf wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:38:10 -0500, Andy wrote:
> > >
> > > > Mom never cooked any Southern dishes.
> > > > Mom never cooked any Mexican dishes.
> > > > Mom never cooked any Asian dishes.
> > > > Mom never cooked anything "spicy-hot."
> > >
> > > Did your friends parents commonly make those types of things if it
> > > wasn't their heritage? If not, she wasn't unusual for your area.
> >
> > They were totally unknown to us in the 50s. Grocery stores were
> > smaller and carried basic stock only. The produce section was tiny
> > because we had only seasonal things most of the time, no exotic fruits
> > and vegetables, no herbs, except dill at pickling time. Kiwis,
> > mangoes, papayas, nectarines, did not exist.
>
> I think you must have lived in an isolated area ...

Probably... but we also relied more on seasonal, regional produce in
those days. For instance, we always had butter lettuce in our
salads... but we lived just up the road from the farm that produced it
for fancy Chicago restaurants and specialty grocery stores - so we
bought it from the farmer. I also ate lots of nectarines in season,
probably because my state produced them (and they were my
grandfather's favorite fruit).

> when I take a look
> at some of my late 50s-60s cookbooks, there are Mexican, Asian and
> "other" ethnic recipes all over ... hummus comes to mind, as one. They
> may not have been perfectly authentic, but they were in the books.

They may have been in the books, but that doesn't mean anyone made
those recipes especially if they lived in the sticks. Cookbooks were
made for people who tried to keep up with the Jones.

> I
> remember we had mangoes at the supermarket because we had just moved
> back to the midwest from Florida, where they were regular fare.

Never even saw a mango until I moved to the big city mid-'60s and they
weren't common there either.

> We also had nectarines

If you lived where they grew peaches, you had nectarines too... I
always did.

> and a lot more easily-found Key limes then, than today. ;-)

I didn't find key limes outside of a bottle in those days and only
"fancy" stores carry fresh key limes even today where I live now (not
Florida).

On Tue 28 Jun 2005 06:36:42a, The Joneses wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> sf wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:48:52 -0700, <RJ> wrote:
>>
>> > canned ( gray-green ) peas
>>
>> Oh, gawd.... I can relate to that! I didn't like peas (and my
>> grandfather had a garden, so he grew them) until I was an adult. I
>> finally figured out that it was a combination of "mature pea" and over
>> cooking that turned me off. Of course, Mom just opened a can so you
>> know what she did to it. After I moved to California, I discovered
>> frozen petit peas and I've liked them ever since. In fact they are a
>> staple in my freezer to date.
>
> Try nibbling on the frozen ones.
> Edrena

Why? You work for a dentist?

--
Wayne Boatwright Õ¿Õ¬
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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue 28 Jun 2005 06:36:42a, The Joneses wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:48:52 -0700, <RJ> wrote:
>>>
>>> > canned ( gray-green ) peas
>>>
>>> Oh, gawd.... I can relate to that! I didn't like peas (and my
>>> grandfather had a garden, so he grew them) until I was an adult. I
>>> finally figured out that it was a combination of "mature pea" and over
>>> cooking that turned me off. Of course, Mom just opened a can so you
>>> know what she did to it. After I moved to California, I discovered
>>> frozen petit peas and I've liked them ever since. In fact they are a
>>> staple in my freezer to date.
>>
>> Try nibbling on the frozen ones.
>> Edrena
>
> Why? You work for a dentist?
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright Õ¿Õ¬
> ========

Frozen peas are wonderful!!!!!!!!! Nathan, our dog and I can't get enough
of them. Nathan says they taste a little bit like vanilla ice cream. I'm
not sure if I can attest to tasting the same thing - but I do like them.
The dog... oh my, she goes nuts when she sees me with a bag of frozen peas.
Yep, Maxi-dog adores them.

Cyndi

sf wrote:
>
> On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:36:04 -0600, Arri London wrote:
> >
> > Trendy is relative LOL. As is 'grownup'.
> >
> > Lamb
> > Chiles
> > Seaweed
> > Squid/octopus
> > Coriander/cilantro leaves
> > Tripe
> > Fish sauce
> > Jicama
> > Posole
> > Indian/Thai/Caribbean/Middle Eastern/Japanese etc food
>
> "Yeahbut" what did you never have the opportunity to eat? If you were
> presented with all those things at home, you were blessed.
>
> Of the entire list your presented, the only thing I was given the
> opportunity to eat at home was lamb and only one "cut"... leg.

I never had the opportunity to eat any of those until I left home at 17.
The title said 'Mom never made'. My parents didn't eat those things. My
mother still won't eat any of those things which makes for boring
cooking LOL.