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Default "KFC" reverting back to "Kentucky Fried Chicken"?

Just saw a commercial where the old generation meets the young generation
eating from a bucket of KFC. The older generation spokesman says "We
called it Kentucky Fried Chicken." And they rotate the bucket and it's
labeled "Kentucky Fried Chicken." The voice-over says Kentucky Fried
Chicken."

They've come full circle.

I remember when they changed the name TO KFC. Jay Leno joked at the time
that "Kentucky Fried Chicken is changing it's name to KFC. Apparently
they didn't want to be associated with the word 'fried.' I think they
didn't want to be associated with the word 'CHICKEN!!!'"

It's Kentucky Fried Crap no matter what it's called, imho,

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"Andy" <Q> wrote in message
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> Just saw a commercial where the old generation meets the young generation
> eating from a bucket of KFC. The older generation spokesman says "We
> called it Kentucky Fried Chicken." And they rotate the bucket and it's
> labeled "Kentucky Fried Chicken." The voice-over says Kentucky Fried
> Chicken."
>
> They've come full circle.
>
> I remember when they changed the name TO KFC. Jay Leno joked at the time
> that "Kentucky Fried Chicken is changing it's name to KFC. Apparently
> they didn't want to be associated with the word 'fried.' I think they
> didn't want to be associated with the word 'CHICKEN!!!'"


ITYWF it was neither - it was the Kentucky bit they were trying to get away
from >',;~P



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Andy wrote:
> Just saw a commercial where the old generation meets the young
> generation eating from a bucket of KFC. The older generation
> spokesman says "We called it Kentucky Fried Chicken." And they rotate
> the bucket and it's labeled "Kentucky Fried Chicken." The voice-over
> says Kentucky Fried Chicken."
>
> They've come full circle.
>
> I remember when they changed the name TO KFC. Jay Leno joked at the
> time that "Kentucky Fried Chicken is changing it's name to KFC.
> Apparently they didn't want to be associated with the word 'fried.' I
> think they didn't want to be associated with the word 'CHICKEN!!!'"
>
> It's Kentucky Fried Crap no matter what it's called, imho,


Your opinion. KFC isn't actually bad, it's just bad for you if eaten
regularly in large quantities, same as any fried food. I remember when
Federal Express changed to FedX. Didn't make it a worse overnight delivery
service, just a change of name. What's in a name? A rose by any other name
would smell as sweet.

Jill


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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 07:21:08 -0500, Andy wrote:

> Just saw a commercial where the old generation meets the young generation
> eating from a bucket of KFC. The older generation spokesman says "We
> called it Kentucky Fried Chicken." And they rotate the bucket and it's
> labeled "Kentucky Fried Chicken." The voice-over says Kentucky Fried
> Chicken."
>
> They've come full circle.
>

They changed their name during a time when acronyms were the popular
thing to do. Every company wanted to be the next IBM.
>
> I remember when they changed the name TO KFC. Jay Leno joked at the time
> that "Kentucky Fried Chicken is changing it's name to KFC. Apparently
> they didn't want to be associated with the word 'fried.' I think they
> didn't want to be associated with the word 'CHICKEN!!!'"


They hit such a low point that the Colonel had to come back and slap
them into shape. I think they managed to improve and sustained the
improvement.
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yeah, but where else can you get 800 calories in a chicken drumstick?

"Andy" <Q> wrote in message
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> Just saw a commercial where the old generation meets the young generation
> eating from a bucket of KFC. The older generation spokesman says "We
> called it Kentucky Fried Chicken." And they rotate the bucket and it's
> labeled "Kentucky Fried Chicken." The voice-over says Kentucky Fried
> Chicken."
>
> They've come full circle.
>
> I remember when they changed the name TO KFC. Jay Leno joked at the time
> that "Kentucky Fried Chicken is changing it's name to KFC. Apparently
> they didn't want to be associated with the word 'fried.' I think they
> didn't want to be associated with the word 'CHICKEN!!!'"
>
> It's Kentucky Fried Crap no matter what it's called, imho,
>
> --
> Andy
> http://tinyurl.com/bczgr





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Andy wrote:
> Just saw a commercial where the old generation meets the young generation
> eating from a bucket of KFC. The older generation spokesman says "We
> called it Kentucky Fried Chicken." And they rotate the bucket and it's
> labeled "Kentucky Fried Chicken." The voice-over says Kentucky Fried
> Chicken." <snip>
>
> It's Kentucky Fried Crap no matter what it's called, imho


I had a piece of Kentucky Fried Chicken yesterday and it wasn't bad at
all. The flour had been seasoned and wasn't the awful salty mess used
before. The chicken was moist and tasted ok. I didn't eat much of the
skin (thick, fatty skin doesn't appeal much). The taste wasn't up to
the best fried chicken but it was acceptable, IMO, for a convenience
food.

Mac

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"jmcquown" > wrote in
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> Andy wrote:
>> Just saw a commercial where the old generation meets the young
>> generation eating from a bucket of KFC. The older generation
>> spokesman says "We called it Kentucky Fried Chicken." And they rotate
>> the bucket and it's labeled "Kentucky Fried Chicken." The voice-over
>> says Kentucky Fried Chicken."
>>
>> They've come full circle.
>>
>> I remember when they changed the name TO KFC. Jay Leno joked at the
>> time that "Kentucky Fried Chicken is changing it's name to KFC.
>> Apparently they didn't want to be associated with the word 'fried.' I
>> think they didn't want to be associated with the word 'CHICKEN!!!'"
>>
>> It's Kentucky Fried Crap no matter what it's called, imho,

>
> Your opinion. KFC isn't actually bad, it's just bad for you if eaten
> regularly in large quantities, same as any fried food. I remember
> when Federal Express changed to FedX. Didn't make it a worse
> overnight delivery service, just a change of name. What's in a name?
> A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.
>
> Jill



Jill,

You reminded me:

My sister. We used to call her "Federal Express" because everytime she
went to visit one of her boyfriends, she absolutely positively had to be
there overnight.



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Andy wrote:
>
> Just saw a commercial where the old generation meets the young generation
> eating from a bucket of KFC. The older generation spokesman says "We
> called it Kentucky Fried Chicken." And they rotate the bucket and it's
> labeled "Kentucky Fried Chicken." The voice-over says Kentucky Fried
> Chicken."
>
> They've come full circle.
>
> I remember when they changed the name TO KFC. Jay Leno joked at the time
> that "Kentucky Fried Chicken is changing it's name to KFC. Apparently
> they didn't want to be associated with the word 'fried.' I think they
> didn't want to be associated with the word 'CHICKEN!!!'"
>
> It's Kentucky Fried Crap no matter what it's called, imho,
>
> --
> Andy


They used to have an "extra crispy" version that was respectable, but
don't seem to make it any more....Sharon
> http://tinyurl.com/bczgr

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biig wrote:
> Andy wrote:
>>
>> Just saw a commercial where the old generation meets the young
>> generation eating from a bucket of KFC. The older generation
>> spokesman says "We called it Kentucky Fried Chicken." And they
>> rotate the bucket and it's labeled "Kentucky Fried Chicken." The
>> voice-over says Kentucky Fried Chicken."
>>
>> They've come full circle.
>>
>> I remember when they changed the name TO KFC. Jay Leno joked at the
>> time that "Kentucky Fried Chicken is changing it's name to KFC.
>> Apparently they didn't want to be associated with the word 'fried.'
>> I think they didn't want to be associated with the word 'CHICKEN!!!'"
>>
>> It's Kentucky Fried Crap no matter what it's called, imho,
>>
>> --
>> Andy

>
> They used to have an "extra crispy" version that was respectable,
> but don't seem to make it any more....Sharon
>> http://tinyurl.com/bczgr


They still make it down here in the southern U.S. I like it better.

Jill


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biig > wrote in :

> They used to have an "extra crispy" version that was respectable, but
> don't seem to make it any more....Sharon



Sharon,

I was told that the extra crispy was original that they pressure cooked
twice, but I couldn't get that story validated.

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On Tue 05 Jul 2005 12:53:44p, jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> biig wrote:
>> Andy wrote:
>>>
>>> Just saw a commercial where the old generation meets the young
>>> generation eating from a bucket of KFC. The older generation
>>> spokesman says "We called it Kentucky Fried Chicken." And they
>>> rotate the bucket and it's labeled "Kentucky Fried Chicken." The
>>> voice-over says Kentucky Fried Chicken."
>>>
>>> They've come full circle.
>>>
>>> I remember when they changed the name TO KFC. Jay Leno joked at the
>>> time that "Kentucky Fried Chicken is changing it's name to KFC.
>>> Apparently they didn't want to be associated with the word 'fried.'
>>> I think they didn't want to be associated with the word 'CHICKEN!!!'"
>>>
>>> It's Kentucky Fried Crap no matter what it's called, imho,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andy

>>
>> They used to have an "extra crispy" version that was respectable,
>> but don't seem to make it any more....Sharon
>>> http://tinyurl.com/bczgr

>
> They still make it down here in the southern U.S. I like it better.
>
> Jill


They still have it here in AZ, too. On the infrequent occasions I stop at
KFC, that's the only one I'll order.

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
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> On Tue 05 Jul 2005 12:53:44p, jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > biig wrote:
> >> Andy wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Just saw a commercial where the old generation meets the young
> >>> generation eating from a bucket of KFC. The older generation
> >>> spokesman says "We called it Kentucky Fried Chicken." And they
> >>> rotate the bucket and it's labeled "Kentucky Fried Chicken." The
> >>> voice-over says Kentucky Fried Chicken."
> >>>
> >>> They've come full circle.
> >>>
> >>> I remember when they changed the name TO KFC. Jay Leno joked at the
> >>> time that "Kentucky Fried Chicken is changing it's name to KFC.
> >>> Apparently they didn't want to be associated with the word 'fried.'
> >>> I think they didn't want to be associated with the word 'CHICKEN!!!'"
> >>>
> >>> It's Kentucky Fried Crap no matter what it's called, imho,
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Andy
> >>
> >> They used to have an "extra crispy" version that was respectable,
> >> but don't seem to make it any more....Sharon
> >>> http://tinyurl.com/bczgr

> >
> > They still make it down here in the southern U.S. I like it better.
> >
> > Jill

>
> They still have it here in AZ, too. On the infrequent occasions I stop at
> KFC, that's the only one I'll order.


I'm in SW Ontario Canada and have tried a couple of times this
summer when travelling and had no luck.....Sharon
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Andy wrote:

> biig > wrote in :
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> They used to have an "extra crispy" version that was respectable, but
>>don't seem to make it any more....Sharon


Sure they do.

> I was told that the extra crispy was original that they pressure cooked
> twice, but I couldn't get that story validated.


Not true. Different coating formulation. Fried only once.

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"Bob (this one)" > wrote in
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> Not true. Different coating formulation. Fried only once.
>
> Pastorio



Bob,

You'll have to validate your info.

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"Bob (this one)" > wrote

> Not true. Different coating formulation. Fried only once.


Of course, how else would there be massively more breading
on the extra crispy than the original? Spontaneous generation?

It's not at all like the original. One reason I don't get that
(well, didn't get that when I used to buy Kentucky Fried) ...
all that money for most breading batter.

nancy





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"jmcquown" > said:

> biig wrote:
> >
> > They used to have an "extra crispy" version that was respectable,
> > but don't seem to make it any more....Sharon

>
> They still make it down here in the southern U.S. I like it better.


It's available here in Minnesota, as well.

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biig wrote:
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue 05 Jul 2005 12:53:44p, jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>> biig wrote:
>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just saw a commercial where the old generation meets the young
>>>>>> generation eating from a bucket of KFC. The older generation
>>>>>> spokesman says "We called it Kentucky Fried Chicken." And they
>>>>>> rotate the bucket and it's labeled "Kentucky Fried Chicken." The
>>>>>> voice-over says Kentucky Fried Chicken."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They've come full circle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I remember when they changed the name TO KFC. Jay Leno joked at
>>>>>> the time that "Kentucky Fried Chicken is changing it's name to
>>>>>> KFC. Apparently they didn't want to be associated with the word
>>>>>> 'fried.' I think they didn't want to be associated with the word
>>>>>> 'CHICKEN!!!'"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's Kentucky Fried Crap no matter what it's called, imho,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>
>>>>> They used to have an "extra crispy" version that was
>>>>> respectable, but don't seem to make it any more....Sharon
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/bczgr
>>>>
>>>> They still make it down here in the southern U.S. I like it
>>>> better.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> They still have it here in AZ, too. On the infrequent occasions I
>>> stop at KFC, that's the only one I'll order.

>>
>> I'm in SW Ontario Canada and have tried a couple of times this
>> summer when travelling and had no luck.....Sharon
>>>

hmm..I am in southeastern Ontario and I was sure they had it here. Now you
got me questioning it... Fast forward a couple of minutes.. I just called
them.. all they have is original here now as well.

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Nancy Young wrote:
> "Bob (this one)" > wrote
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>> Not true. Different coating formulation. Fried only once.

>
> Of course, how else would there be massively more breading
> on the extra crispy than the original? Spontaneous generation?
>
> It's not at all like the original. One reason I don't get that
> (well, didn't get that when I used to buy Kentucky Fried) ...
> all that money for most breading batter.
>
> nancy


I'm a nut; I admit it. I prefer the breading to the chicken. Wish I could
just order that crispy, crunchy stuff, please! LOL

Chicken just doesn't "do it" for me. On the rare occasions when I prepare
chicken, it's chicken thighs, not breasts. Grilled or broiled or even (yes,
folks) simmered in a sauce in a crock pot, or chicken stew or a pot pie.
Gotta have some kind of sauce or gravy, otherwise chicken, to me, is boring
in the extreme.

Jill


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"Nancy Young" > wrote in news:daev97$dfe$1
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> "Bob (this one)" > wrote
>
>> Not true. Different coating formulation. Fried only once.

>
> Of course, how else would there be massively more breading
> on the extra crispy than the original? Spontaneous generation?



Actually the story as it was told to me was that the extra crispy was
originally a way for them to resell yesterday's leftover chicken to the
public the next day by rebattering it and cooking it again. Maybe it was
only fried "once" and then baked the second time. I don't know for sure.

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Andy wrote:
> "Bob (this one)" > wrote
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>>Not true. Different coating formulation. Fried only once.
>>
>>Pastorio

>
> Bob,
>
> You'll have to validate your info.


Easy enough. My ex-wife worked at a KFC when they were still called
"Kentucky Fried Chicken" and the Colonel was active (read "alive").
While we were talking about The Kid spending time with her 1/2 siblings
in New Jersey, I asked her to be sure that what I thought I knew was
correct.

She said they dipped and coated "original" once, and dipped and coated
"extra-crispy" twice before frying. Different coating formulation.

Or you can call your friendly neighborhood KFC and ask them. In either
case, I like pressure-fried chicken. My coatings have less salt than
KFC's, but chacun a son gout and they say in Kentucky.

Pastorio


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Nancy Young wrote:

> "Bob (this one)" > wrote
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>>Not true. Different coating formulation. Fried only once.

>
> Of course, how else would there be massively more breading
> on the extra crispy than the original? Spontaneous generation?


No. That spontaneous germination thing is how sprouts happen.

No, seriously...

> It's not at all like the original. One reason I don't get that
> (well, didn't get that when I used to buy Kentucky Fried) ...
> all that money for most breading batter.


Um, Nancy, they sell the chicken by the piece, not by weight. <LOL> No
extra charge for the extra fat and extra carbs. Extra Maalox later.

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"Bob (this one)" > wrote
> Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> It's not at all like the original. One reason I don't get that
>> (well, didn't get that when I used to buy Kentucky Fried) ...
>> all that money for most breading batter.

>
> Um, Nancy, they sell the chicken by the piece, not by weight. <LOL> No
> extra charge for the extra fat and extra carbs. Extra Maalox later.


Yeah, but, as I recall, the pieces were the same size either way,
Something's gotta give. Since it's not the breading, I'm betting
on the size of the chicken pieces.

nancy


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Back in high school in the 80's, I could get a family box of fries with a
half cup of seasoned gravy. I would pour the gravy into the box and that
would be my meal. Mmmm. Why can't I get that anymore?

KFC's chicken is horrible. Soggy and greasy. In my area, I like Brown's
Chicken--very crispy.

I liked the rumor that the US government forced Kentucky Fried Chicken to
change their name because they didn't actually serve chicken. It obviously
isn't true but I still think it is funny. Snopes.com talks about it.


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"Andy" <Q> wrote in message
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> biig > wrote in :
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>> They used to have an "extra crispy" version that was respectable, but
>> don't seem to make it any more....Sharon

>
>
> Sharon,
>
> I was told that the extra crispy was original that they pressure cooked
> twice, but I couldn't get that story validated.
>
> --
> Andy
> http://tinyurl.com/bczgr


Having worked in a KFC in High School (20 years ago) I can tell you that the
original recipe is pressure cooked with the 13 herbs and spices while the
extra crispy is rolled in a different flour and seasoning mix and then just
deep fried. Two totally separate cooking processes and seasonings. They
both used the same chicken pieces though.

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"Andy" <Q> wrote in message
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> Just saw a commercial where the old generation meets the young generation
> eating from a bucket of KFC. The older generation spokesman says "We
> called it Kentucky Fried Chicken." And they rotate the bucket and it's
> labeled "Kentucky Fried Chicken." The voice-over says Kentucky Fried
> Chicken."
>
> They've come full circle.
>
> I remember when they changed the name TO KFC. Jay Leno joked at the time
> that "Kentucky Fried Chicken is changing it's name to KFC. Apparently
> they didn't want to be associated with the word 'fried.' I think they
> didn't want to be associated with the word 'CHICKEN!!!'"
>
> It's Kentucky Fried Crap no matter what it's called, imho,
>
> --
> Andy
> http://tinyurl.com/bczgr


I find with KFC or any other fast food place the quality of your order
depends on luck. Sometimes you get a great meal but I'd more often you
don't.

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Andy wrote:

> "Nancy Young" > wrote
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>>"Bob (this one)" > wrote
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>>>Not true. Different coating formulation. Fried only once.

>>
>>Of course, how else would there be massively more breading
>>on the extra crispy than the original? Spontaneous generation?

>
> Actually the story as it was told to me was that the extra crispy was
> originally a way for them to resell yesterday's leftover chicken to the
> public the next day by rebattering it and cooking it again. Maybe it was
> only fried "once" and then baked the second time. I don't know for sure.


Not even remotely true. KFC operations manual specifically say to
discard leftover chicken at the end of the night. There won't be much.
Remember that these are people who forecast their chicken usage almost
to the piece because they have so much experience with it and are linked
to corporate HQ computers with all the historical records. Being careful
with a buck doesn't mean that they'll be foolish in dealing with their
customers. Re-coated and re-fried (or baked or whatever) would taste bad
and have a bad mouthfeel.

Think about what would happen to the first (now soggy) coating the next
day if it were re-cooked. It would have a very different texture than
the new stuff. And the chicken would be ghastly dry.

30 or so years ago, before computerization of records, they tried to
recycle leftovers by putting leftover fried chicken into a barbecue
sauce and reheating it that way. It bombed; people bought it once. Since
then, KFC learned a lesson and leftovers are trashed.

The very simple fact is that you've been given bad information.

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"Bob (this one)" > wrote in news:11cmpitolsr7785
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> The very simple fact is that you've been given bad information.



And it isn't the first time!

I stand corrected. Thanks,

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Andy wrote:
> Just saw a commercial where the old generation meets the young generation
> eating from a bucket of KFC. The older generation spokesman says "We
> called it Kentucky Fried Chicken." And they rotate the bucket and it's
> labeled "Kentucky Fried Chicken." The voice-over says Kentucky Fried
> Chicken."
>
> They've come full circle.
>
> I remember when they changed the name TO KFC. Jay Leno joked at the time
> that "Kentucky Fried Chicken is changing it's name to KFC. Apparently
> they didn't want to be associated with the word 'fried.' I think they
> didn't want to be associated with the word 'CHICKEN!!!'"
>
> It's Kentucky Fried Crap no matter what it's called, imho,


I work in London and just round the corner from the Tower of London
is(was?) a KFC. Jokes were abound that KFC should have been KFW
(Kentucky Fried Watervole).
I do like onw or two pieces but it's the coating that does it. Often
the chicken itself has no flavour whatsoever. Give me a hot wing or
seven any day.

Doc

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A friend of my son who worked as a night manager at the local KFC maybe two
years ago - he said that every hour they threw out any chicken that was over
one hour old.
(I don't know if that was corporate or local policy.)

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> "Nancy Young" > wrote in news:daev97$dfe$1
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>
> > "Bob (this one)" > wrote
> >
> >> Not true. Different coating formulation. Fried only once.

> >
> > Of course, how else would there be massively more breading
> > on the extra crispy than the original? Spontaneous generation?

>
>
> Actually the story as it was told to me was that the extra crispy was
> originally a way for them to resell yesterday's leftover chicken to the
> public the next day by rebattering it and cooking it again. Maybe it was
> only fried "once" and then baked the second time. I don't know for sure.
>
> --
> Andy
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> Andy wrote:
> >
> > Just saw a commercial where the old generation meets the young generation
> > eating from a bucket of KFC. The older generation spokesman says "We
> > called it Kentucky Fried Chicken." And they rotate the bucket and it's
> > labeled "Kentucky Fried Chicken." The voice-over says Kentucky Fried
> > Chicken."
> >
> > They've come full circle.
> >
> > I remember when they changed the name TO KFC. Jay Leno joked at the time
> > that "Kentucky Fried Chicken is changing it's name to KFC. Apparently
> > they didn't want to be associated with the word 'fried.' I think they
> > didn't want to be associated with the word 'CHICKEN!!!'"
> >
> > It's Kentucky Fried Crap no matter what it's called, imho,
> >
> > --
> > Andy

>
> They used to have an "extra crispy" version that was respectable, but
> don't seem to make it any more....Sharon


Welll, in the old days I loved KFC, the original recipe -
not of the crispy crap. (Okay, with other fried chicken
it has to be crispy, but KFC is a whole nother animal.)
Then about 15-20 years ago they started expanding their
menu and offering the rotisserie chicken and all kinds
of other stuff. That's when they started to suck. The
quality really fell off. After I got really crappy,
way undercooked chicken at a couple of different stores
(in different states, even!) I swore off them. I really
missed the original recipe KFC. Every once in a while
I would be tempted to go back and try it again but I
always resisted that urge. I haven't been to a KFC in
at least 7 years.

Kate


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> Every once in a while
> I would be tempted to go back and try it again but I
> always resisted that urge. I haven't been to a KFC in
> at least 7 years.
>
> Kate



Kate,

For a short time, I used to order the "center breast" for the three piece
white meat lunch box. It was the most meat and the easiest to eat with
only the small center cartilage piece. But they charged me extra for the
luxury so I gave up on them about 20 years ago.

My folks never let us eat fast food unless we were on a family roadtrip
vacation.

I also get a flavor flashback urge but pay it no mind, since I've started
learning to cook.

The unfried chicken recipes posted here and on other websites are
delicious and too easy, if you don't mind a little cleanup, naturally!

Imho,

Andy
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> The
> quality really fell off. After I got really crappy,
> way undercooked chicken at a couple of different stores
> (in different states, even!)


What were the indicators of the chicken being undercooked?

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> What were the indicators of the chicken being undercooked?
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> Pastorio



They were running out the doors, the same as the customers!??

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>>What were the indicators of the chicken being undercooked?
>>
>>Pastorio

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> They were running out the doors, the same as the customers!??


I'd accept that as a good indicator. <LOL>

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"Bob (this one)" wrote:
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> Kate Connally wrote:
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> > The
> > quality really fell off. After I got really crappy,
> > way undercooked chicken at a couple of different stores
> > (in different states, even!)

>
> What were the indicators of the chicken being undercooked?
>
> Pastorio


Well, it was bloody at the center. BTW it was leg
and thigh meat. I always got all dark meat as I hate
white meat.

Kate


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> "Bob (this one)" > wrote in
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> > What were the indicators of the chicken being undercooked?
> >
> > Pastorio

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> They were running out the doors, the same as the customers!??


Tee hee hee!

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Andy wrote:
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> Kate Connally > wrote in news:42CBF1F2.7D867A28
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> > Every once in a while
> > I would be tempted to go back and try it again but I
> > always resisted that urge. I haven't been to a KFC in
> > at least 7 years.
> >
> > Kate

>
> Kate,
>
> For a short time, I used to order the "center breast" for the three piece
> white meat lunch box. It was the most meat and the easiest to eat with
> only the small center cartilage piece. But they charged me extra for the
> luxury so I gave up on them about 20 years ago.


What I could never figure out was why they charged extra
for either all white or all dark. The vast majority who
order one or the other order all white, so it seems to me
that all dark should have been discounted!!!!! Damn!
I always got all dark as I detest white meat. It really
used to bug me to be charged more for something no one
else wanted.

> My folks never let us eat fast food unless we were on a family roadtrip
> vacation.
>
> I also get a flavor flashback urge but pay it no mind, since I've started
> learning to cook.
>
> The unfried chicken recipes posted here and on other websites are
> delicious and too easy, if you don't mind a little cleanup, naturally!


Yes, I do mind cleanup! But that's not really the issue.
I like good fast food when I'm on the road or whatever.
So then it's not about cooking or cleaning up.

KFC always reminded me of the way my great aunt cooked
chicken. She would bread it and fry it and then she would
cook it in the pressure cooker. It had the same texture as
the original recipe KFC, only KFC was more flavorful due to
more spices. My great aunt didn't use anything except
salt and pepper. Anyway, I think that's one of the reasons
I liked original better than crispy.

And even if I wanted to I wouldn't make it at home because
I refuse to use a pressure cooker. Hate those things!

Kate
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> And even if I wanted to I wouldn't make it at home because
> I refuse to use a pressure cooker. Hate those things!
>
> Kate



Kate,

I remember Mom using a pressure cooker for stuff, when we were just old
enough to wonder how it worked. She warned us that if we touched it while
it was on the stove, it would explode and we'd all be dead before dinner
was served!!!

We waited in our rooms or the basement for the dinner bell. Scared us
pretty good. But we definitely admired Mom's bravery!!!

Andy
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In article >, Kate Connally >
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> I always got all dark as I detest white meat. It really
> used to bug me to be charged more for something no one
> else wanted.



My brother married a Chinese woman. He said that in China the chicken
piece prices are backwards from the US. The breasts are cheapest,
followed by the dark meat, followed by the wings. The most expensive are
the feet. I don't think most places in the US even try to sell the feet.

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Kate Connally wrote:
> "Bob (this one)" wrote:
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>> Kate Connally wrote:
>>
>>> The quality really fell off. After I got really crappy, way
>>> undercooked chicken at a couple of different stores (in different
>>> states, even!)

>>
>> What were the indicators of the chicken being undercooked?
>>
>> Pastorio

>
> Well, it was bloody at the center. BTW it was leg and thigh meat. I
> always got all dark meat as I hate white meat.


Me, too.

But this ain't grandma's chicken any more. Get used to the red at the
bone. It's not bloody in the sense you mean it. It's cooked to a safe
point, just violates what we "know" is an indicator of undercooked
chicken. It's the heme from inside the bone. It's unavoidable, and
unless you cook it to death, it'll be with us from now on because of the
age of the chickens at slaughter and the way they're being handled.

This page has a lot of good food science about sanitation and the like
<http://www.hi-tm.com/html/pubs_reports.html>

Here's about bloody chicken:
<http://www.hi-tm.com/Documents/Bloody-chik.html>

Pastorio
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