We grow our own chilli's here. (bought a chilli plant a few years back and
still going strong)

The other day we picked them when they were red. My partner put them into a
dinner and they didn't taste very strong. It was a chicken stir fry. They
have been sitting on the kitchen table since. (2 days give or take)
I kinda thought they sucked a little, and I thought that they would have
more taste. Anyway last night hubby thought he would put it into spaghetti
bolanise sauce, And it was mega bitey. They seemed very strong (to strong
that the kids didn't eat dinner and only ate pasta)

Tonight he was thinking about doing a tuna thing which he loves as a kid but
now he is wondering if he should add the chilli or not. Im not sure what
this tuna thing is as I have never had it, but I understand from him it is
mix of things rolled together and then battered and deep fryed (I could be
wrong tho)

Last years chilli's were great, no problems and consistent in taste.
This year, Chilli's cold and tasteless one meal, to hot and bitey the other
meal ?
What gives ?

Nic

"Nic" > wrote in message
. ..
> We grow our own chilli's here. (bought a chilli plant a few years back and
> still going strong)
>
> The other day we picked them when they were red. My partner put them into
a
> dinner and they didn't taste very strong. It was a chicken stir fry.
They
> have been sitting on the kitchen table since. (2 days give or take)
> I kinda thought they sucked a little, and I thought that they would have
> more taste. Anyway last night hubby thought he would put it into
spaghetti
> bolanise sauce, And it was mega bitey. They seemed very strong (to strong
> that the kids didn't eat dinner and only ate pasta)
>
> Tonight he was thinking about doing a tuna thing which he loves as a kid
but
> now he is wondering if he should add the chilli or not. Im not sure what
> this tuna thing is as I have never had it, but I understand from him it
is
> mix of things rolled together and then battered and deep fryed (I could be
> wrong tho)
>
> Last years chilli's were great, no problems and consistent in taste.
> This year, Chilli's cold and tasteless one meal, to hot and bitey the
other
> meal ?
> What gives ?
>

Cutting them open versus adding them whole makes a big difference. Also, the
chemical that provides the "hot" is soluble in oil so more of it might come
out in an oily dish than a non-oily dish. By the way it is chili not chilli.


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Peter Aitken" writes:
>"Nic" > wrote in message
...
>> We grow our own chilli's here. (bought a chilli plant a few years back and
>> still going strong)
>>
>> The other day we picked them when they were red. My partner put them into
>a
>> dinner and they didn't taste very strong. It was a chicken stir fry.
>They
>> have been sitting on the kitchen table since. (2 days give or take)
>> I kinda thought they sucked a little, and I thought that they would have
>> more taste. Anyway last night hubby thought he would put it into
>spaghetti
>> bolanise sauce, And it was mega bitey. They seemed very strong (to strong
>> that the kids didn't eat dinner and only ate pasta)
>>
>> Tonight he was thinking about doing a tuna thing which he loves as a kid
>but
>> now he is wondering if he should add the chilli or not. Im not sure what
>> this tuna thing is as I have never had it, but I understand from him it
>is
>> mix of things rolled together and then battered and deep fryed (I could be
>> wrong tho)
>>
>> Last years chilli's were great, no problems and consistent in taste.
>> This year, Chilli's cold and tasteless one meal, to hot and bitey the
>other
>> meal ?
>> What gives ?
>>
>
>Cutting them open versus adding them whole makes a big difference. Also, the
>chemical that provides the "hot" is soluble in oil so more of it might come
>out in an oily dish than a non-oily dish. By the way it is chili not chilli.

Capsaicin is soluble in both oil and water, and it volatilizes readily as an
aerosol.

I'm guessing that the peppers in question hadn't reach full ripeness/heat at
the first meal.

Best,

Marc

Peter Aitken wrote:

> By the way it is chili not chilli.


It's best not to be pedantic unless you are right. The word is "chile".
"Chili" is a stew made with chiles.

Bob

"zxcvbob" > wrote in message
...
> Peter Aitken wrote:
>
> > By the way it is chili not chilli.
>
>
> It's best not to be pedantic unless you are right. The word is "chile".
> "Chili" is a stew made with chiles.
>
> Bob

I am right. The dictionary has "chili" as meaning peppers and "chile" as a
synonym. Diana Kennedy uses the two spellings interchageably. You may now
wipe that egg off your face.


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Peter Aitken wrote:
>
> "zxcvbob" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Peter Aitken wrote:
> >
> > > By the way it is chili not chilli.
> >
> >
> > It's best not to be pedantic unless you are right. The word is "chile".
> > "Chili" is a stew made with chiles.
> >
> > Bob
>
> I am right. The dictionary has "chili" as meaning peppers and "chile" as a
> synonym. Diana Kennedy uses the two spellings interchageably. You may now
> wipe that egg off your face.


Everybody's right.


One entry found for chili.
Main Entry: chili
Variant(s): or chile or chil·li /'chi-lE/
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural chil·ies or chil·es or chil·lies
Etymology: Spanish chile, from Nahuatl chIlli
1 a : HOT PEPPER b usually chilli, chiefly British : a pepper whether
hot or sweet
2 a : a thick sauce of meat and chilies b : CHILI CON CARNE



Brian Rodenborn

In article >, zxcvbob
> wrote:

> Peter Aitken wrote:
>
> > By the way it is chili not chilli.
>
>
> It's best not to be pedantic unless you are right. The word is "chile".
> "Chili" is a stew made with chiles.
>
> Bob

Chile is the name of a country in South America. Chili is a pepper.
My Spanish teachers said so. (And chilli might be an Aussie variation
of it; I've seen it before.)
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> updated 5/7/04 - Fajita Soup.

In article > ,
says...
> By the way it is chili not chilli
>
Actually, it's 'chile'
--
Donna
A pessimist believes all women are bad. An optimist hopes they are.

>paitken says...
>>By the way it is chili not chilli
>>
>Actually, it's 'chile'
>-
>Donna

Obviously none of you know how to use a dictionary, because actually all three
are acceptible.

Merriam Webster

chili
Variant(s): or chile or chil.li /'chi-lE/
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural chil·ies or chil·es or chil·lies
Etymology: Spanish chile, from Nahuatl chIlli
Date: 1604
1 a : HOT PEPPER b : usually chilli chiefly British : a pepper whether hot or
sweet
2 a : a thick sauce of meat and chilies b : CHILI CON CARNE
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On Tue, 11 May 2004 17:24:27 +1000, "Nic" >
wrote:

>
>Last years chilli's were great, no problems and consistent in taste.
>This year, Chilli's cold and tasteless one meal, to hot and bitey the other
>meal ?
>What gives ?


We have been getting our chilis from the Union Square Greenmarket for
perhaps 15 years. At first Blew Farm was the only source, and they had
an immense variety, even extending to three distinct strengths of
jalapeno. At that time, they were predictably as labeled.

Now we have more suppliers, and more varieties, including such things
as "Granadan Seasoning Peppers," which looked and tasted like scotch
bonnets, but with much gentler heat.

Unfortunately, bees intervene at pollenation time (at least I suppose
that is happening) and cross these strains in ways not planned for.

Now I can't predict what heat anything will contain. When I put a
chili in something, I start tasting it very soon, and yank the chili
before I think it is as hot as I want it.


Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a


Ask not with whom the buck stops . . .

On Tue, 11 May 2004 09:28:10 -0500, zxcvbob >
wrote:

>Peter Aitken wrote:
>
>> By the way it is chili not chilli.
>
>
>It's best not to be pedantic unless you are right. The word is "chile".
> "Chili" is a stew made with chiles.
>

From the Random House unabridged, 2nd ed.:

Chili, n Pl chilies, also called chili pepper, the pungent pod ofany
of several species of Capsicum, esp C. annuum longum used in cooking
for its pungent flavor. {2,3} Also, chile, chilli


So everyone is ok, but chili is preferred.


Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a


Ask not with whom the buck stops . . .

"Donna Rose" > wrote in message
k.net...
> In article > ,
> says...
> > By the way it is chili not chilli
> >
> Actually, it's 'chile'
> --

Nope - both chile and chili are correct. See my other post.


--
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Remove the crap from my email address before using.

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, zxcvbob
> > wrote:
>
> > Peter Aitken wrote:
> >
> > > By the way it is chili not chilli.
> >
> >
> > It's best not to be pedantic unless you are right. The word is "chile".
> > "Chili" is a stew made with chiles.
> >
> > Bob
>
> Chile is the name of a country in South America. Chili is a pepper.
> My Spanish teachers said so. (And chilli might be an Aussie variation
> of it; I've seen it before.)
> --

Jeez, some teachers! Chile is the Spanish word for peppers. You may be right
about chilli being used in Australia and other British-speaking countries,
something I did not realize before.


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

>Rodney Myrvaagnes writes
>
>>zxcvbob wrote:
>>>Peter Aitken wrote:
>>>
>>> By the way it is chili not chilli.
>>
>>
>>It's best not to be pedantic unless you are right. The word is "chile".
>> "Chili" is a stew made with chiles.
>>
>
>From the Random House unabridged, 2nd ed.:
>
>Chili, n Pl chilies, also called chili pepper, the pungent pod ofany
>of several species of Capsicum, esp C. annuum longum used in cooking
>for its pungent flavor. {2,3} Also, chile, chilli
>
>
>So everyone is ok, but chili is preferred.

Actually they are all *equally* acceptible... but which variant is more
commonly used is mostly a matter of geographics... no one form is generally
preferred. This is one of those cases that is ultimately dependant on context,
ie. the country Chile is always written with an upper case "C". One of the
major communications problems with the internet, where preciseness is demanded,
is that so many morons don't capitalize.


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Peter Aitken wrote:
>
> "Donna Rose" > wrote in message
> k.net...
> > In article > ,
> > says...
> > > By the way it is chili not chilli
> > >
> > Actually, it's 'chile'
> > --
>
> Nope - both chile and chili are correct. See my other post.


And chilli, see my other post.




Brian Rodenborn

PENMART01 wrote:
>>Rodney Myrvaagnes writes
>>
>>
>>>zxcvbob wrote:
>>>
>>>>Peter Aitken wrote:
>>>>
>>>>By the way it is chili not chilli.
>>>
>>>
>>>It's best not to be pedantic unless you are right. The word is "chile".
>>> "Chili" is a stew made with chiles.
>>>
>>
>>From the Random House unabridged, 2nd ed.:
>
>>Chili, n Pl chilies, also called chili pepper, the pungent pod ofany
>>of several species of Capsicum, esp C. annuum longum used in cooking
>>for its pungent flavor. {2,3} Also, chile, chilli
>>
>>
>>So everyone is ok, but chili is preferred.
>
>
> Actually they are all *equally* acceptible... but which variant is more
> commonly used is mostly a matter of geographics... no one form is generally
> preferred. This is one of those cases that is ultimately dependant on context,
> ie. the country Chile is always written with an upper case "C". One of the
> major communications problems with the internet, where preciseness is demanded,
> is that so many morons don't capitalize.

And then there's My Chile...

http://home.pacbell.net/macknet/mychile.html

>Rich
>
>PENMART01 wrote:
>>>Rodney Myrvaagnes writes
>>>>zxcvbob wrote:
>>>>>Peter Aitken wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>By the way it is chili not chilli.
>>>>
>>>>It's best not to be pedantic unless you are right. The word is "chile".
>>>> "Chili" is a stew made with chiles.
>>>
>>>From the Random House unabridged, 2nd ed.:
>>
>>>Chili, n Pl chilies, also called chili pepper, the pungent pod ofany
>>>of several species of Capsicum, esp C. annuum longum used in cooking
>>>for its pungent flavor. {2,3} Also, chile, chilli
>>>
>>>So everyone is ok, but chili is preferred.
>>
>>
>> Actually they are all *equally* acceptible... but which variant is more
>> commonly used is mostly a matter of geographics... no one form is generally
>> preferred. This is one of those cases that is ultimately dependant on
>context,
>> ie. the country Chile is always written with an upper case "C". One of the
>> major communications problems with the internet, where preciseness is
>demanded,
>> is that so many morons don't capitalize.
>
>And then there's My Chile...
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/macknet/mychile.html

Reads more like a story about taking a Dump... what a shit recipe.. about as
remarkable as a can of Hormel.


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> Craig Welch whistles:

>>(PENMART01) wrote:
>>
One of the
>>major communications problems with the internet, where preciseness is
>>demanded
>
>'Preciseness'? Ah, you mean precision.

"Merriam Webster"

syn·o·nym

noun

1 : one of two or more words or expressions of the same language that have the
same or nearly the same meaning in some or all senses
---

"Oxford"

precise

adjective

marked by exactness and accuracy of expression or detail: precise directions |
I want as precise a time of death as I can get.

n (of a person) exact, accurate, and careful about details: the director was
precise with his camera positions. n [ATTRIB.] used to emphasize that one is
referring to an exact and particular thing: at that precise moment the car
stopped.
€” PHRASES

to be precise used to indicate that one is now giving more exact or detailed
information: there were not many€”five, to be precise.

€”DERIVATIVES

preciseness noun.
---

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/preciseness

http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/preciseness

"Merriam Webster Thesaurus"

preciseness
Function: noun
Text:
<STRONG>Synonyms:</STRONG> PRECISION, accuracy, correctness, definiteness,
definitiveness, definitude, exactitude, exactness
Antonyms: <U>impreciseness</U>
---

*DUH*



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Craig Welch wrote:
>
> On 11 May 2004 21:49:21 GMT, (PENMART01) wrote:
>
> >Actually they are all *equally* acceptible... but which variant is more
> >commonly used is mostly a matter of geographics... no one form is generally
> >preferred. This is one of those cases that is ultimately dependant on context,
> >ie. the country Chile is always written with an upper case "C". One of the
> >major communications problems with the internet, where preciseness is demanded,
> >is that so many morons don't capitalize.
>
> 'Preciseness'? Ah, you mean precision.


I hate to stick up for the windbag, but:


One entry found for precise.
Main Entry: pre·cise
Pronunciation: pri-'sIs
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French precis, from Latin
praecisus, past participle of praecidere to cut off, from prae- +
caedere to cut
1 : exactly or sharply defined or stated
2 : minutely exact
3 : strictly conforming to a pattern, standard, or convention
4 : distinguished from every other <at just that precise moment>
synonym see CORRECT
- pre·cise·ness noun



Brian Rodenborn

PENMART01 wrote:
>>Rich

>>And then there's My Chile...
>>
>> http://home.pacbell.net/macknet/mychile.html
>
>
> Reads more like a story about taking a Dump... what a shit recipe.. about as
> remarkable as a can of Hormel.

Did I offend you in some way?

Rich McCormack wrote:
>
> PENMART01 wrote:
>
>>> Rich
>
>
>>> And then there's My Chile...
>>>
>>> http://home.pacbell.net/macknet/mychile.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Reads more like a story about taking a Dump... what a shit recipe..
>> about as
>> remarkable as a can of Hormel.
>
>
> Did I offend you in some way?
>

Probably - by being intelligent, something he cannot define, let alone
possess.


jim

In the American Southwest and in the Chile-Heads (people who love
hot peppers) community, the accepted spellings have become
"chile" for the pepper, and "chili" for the soup or stew. "chilli"
isn't used at all. Dictionaries aren't the definitive answer, as
their meanings and spellings are derived from common usage.

Bob in New Mexico


: Peter Aitken wrote:
:>
:> "Donna Rose" > wrote in message
:> k.net...
:> > In article > ,
:> > says...
:> > > By the way it is chili not chilli
:> > >
:> > Actually, it's 'chile'
:> > --
:>
:> Nope - both chile and chili are correct. See my other post.


: And chilli, see my other post.




: Brian Rodenborn

> wrote in message
...
> In the American Southwest and in the Chile-Heads (people who love
> hot peppers) community, the accepted spellings have become
> "chile" for the pepper, and "chili" for the soup or stew. "chilli"
> isn't used at all. Dictionaries aren't the definitive answer, as
> their meanings and spellings are derived from common usage.
>
> Bob in New Mexico
>
>

Agreed - but the usage of a small group of enthusiasts in a limited
geographical area hardly constitutes "common usage."


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>Rich writes:
>
>PENMART01 wrote:
>>>Rich wrote:
>
>>>And then there's My Chile...
>>
>> No one gives a **** about you or your friggin' shit chili.
>> Reads more like a story about taking a Dump... what a shit recipe.. about
>> as remarkable as a can of Hormel.
>
>Did I offend you in some way?

With that fercocktah recipe you offend yourself.


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wrote:
>
> In the American Southwest and in the Chile-Heads (people who love
> hot peppers) community, the accepted spellings have become
> "chile" for the pepper, and "chili" for the soup or stew. "chilli"
> isn't used at all. Dictionaries aren't the definitive answer, as
> their meanings and spellings are derived from common usage.

That'd be great, except that a general cooking group *is* common usage.

I personally go along with what you say in how I use the words. I
differentiate between chile powder (ground up dried chiles of a
particular variety) and chili powder (a mixture of ground chiles and
other spices).

However, I'm not going to tell other people that their way of using the
words is wrong. It's not.



Brian Rodenborn

"Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
. com...
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > In the American Southwest and in the Chile-Heads (people who love
> > hot peppers) community, the accepted spellings have become
> > "chile" for the pepper, and "chili" for the soup or stew. "chilli"
> > isn't used at all. Dictionaries aren't the definitive answer, as
> > their meanings and spellings are derived from common usage.
> >
> > Bob in New Mexico
>
> Agreed - but the usage of a small group of enthusiasts in a limited
> geographical area hardly constitutes "common usage."
>

> --
> Peter Aitken

I'd hardly call the Chile-Heads a "small group of enthusiasts". They are
found all over the world and they travel all over the world to find chilies
that are hotter and hotter. I do not profess to understand them. How much
flavor is there when its melting the enamel off your teeth?

And, as for New Mexico, they grow the best green (aneheim) chilies there is
so I think their voice counts quite a bit. But, admittedly, I'm biased. My
wife is from NM and being in NM in September will definitely let you know
Chile is in the air. Very fragrant when everyone is outside roasting them.

But, that's just my opinion. Your mileage may vary. ;->

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Maverick wrote:
>
> "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
> . com...
> > > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > In the American Southwest and in the Chile-Heads (people who love
> > > hot peppers) community, the accepted spellings have become
> > > "chile" for the pepper, and "chili" for the soup or stew. "chilli"
> > > isn't used at all. Dictionaries aren't the definitive answer, as
> > > their meanings and spellings are derived from common usage.
> > >
> > > Bob in New Mexico
> >
> > Agreed - but the usage of a small group of enthusiasts in a limited
> > geographical area hardly constitutes "common usage."
> >
>
> > --
> > Peter Aitken
>
> I'd hardly call the Chile-Heads a "small group of enthusiasts". They are
> found all over the world and they travel all over the world to find chilies
> that are hotter and hotter. I do not profess to understand them. How much
> flavor is there when its melting the enamel off your teeth?


LOL! No, consumers of chiles (who aren't all chile heads) are hardly a
small group of enthusiasts.

>
> And, as for New Mexico, they grow the best green (aneheim) chilies there is
> so I think their voice counts quite a bit. But, admittedly, I'm biased. My
> wife is from NM and being in NM in September will definitely let you know
> Chile is in the air. Very fragrant when everyone is outside roasting them.
>
> But, that's just my opinion. Your mileage may vary. ;->
>
> Bret


Anaheims are a mild travesty LOL! But NM does produce mild chiles for
export. But there are a lot of other varieties of long green chiles that
are not mild in the slightest, although of course not as hot as
habaneros etc.

Here are the experts: http://www.chilepepperinstitute.org/

BubbaBob wrote:
>
> "Maverick" > wrote:
>
> > And, as for New Mexico, they grow the best green (aneheim)
> > chilies there is so I think their voice counts quite a bit.
> > But, admittedly, I'm biased. My wife is from NM and being in NM
> > in September will definitely let you know Chile is in the air.
> > Very fragrant when everyone is outside roasting them.
> >
> > But, that's just my opinion. Your mileage may vary. ;->
> >
> > Bret
> >
>
> We don't grow Anaheim chiles in New Mexico. The Anaheim is a weak-
> flavored deheated mutated New Mexican chile cultivar that is usually
> grown in California. Its ancestry is definitely New Mexican, though.


True, but according to the Chile Pepper Institute, NM does grow 'mild'
green chiles. But mild is relative of course.

On Thu, 13 May 2004 21:02:52 +0000 (UTC), wrote:

>In the American Southwest and in the Chile-Heads (people who love
>hot peppers) community, the accepted spellings have become
>"chile" for the pepper, and "chili" for the soup or stew. "chilli"
>isn't used at all. Dictionaries aren't the definitive answer, as
>their meanings and spellings are derived from common usage.
>
Bob is correct in that dictionaries are necessarily historical. The
spelling 'chile' for anything but a country in South America has
bloomed very recently, but seems to be outgrowing the others.

I think the dictionary I quoted reflected dominate usage 30 or 40
years ago.

I admit I never saw 'chilli' until this discussion.


However, The OED (1928) has chilli, and chilly as English forms,
referrs to spanish chile, chili, and Mexican 16th c native chilli.

Of course the latter assumes Mayan written in a Roman alphabet. I am
not sure how that can be independent of Spanish, but I am not a
linguist.

Southwestern US usage probably has a lot of Spanish influence.

Old habits die hard, especially for old geezers. I will probably
continue to use "chili" automatically for both soup and the pepper.


Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a


Ask not with whom the buck stops . . .

In article >, Rodney Myrvaagnes
> wrote:


> I admit I never saw 'chilli' until this discussion.
>
>
> However, The OED (1928) has chilli, and chilly as English forms,


Yes, whenever I see "chilli" on this group, I look for a "uk" in the address.

--
Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS

Dan Abel wrote:
>
> In article >, Rodney Myrvaagnes
> > wrote:
>
> > I admit I never saw 'chilli' until this discussion.
> >
> >
> > However, The OED (1928) has chilli, and chilly as English forms,
>
> Yes, whenever I see "chilli" on this group, I look for a "uk" in the address.


One of the popular brands of canned chili in the US is Chilli Man.
According to the original owner, that's how they spell it around
Springfield Illinois.




Brian Rodenborn

Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote:
>
> On Thu, 13 May 2004 21:02:52 +0000 (UTC), wrote:
>
> >In the American Southwest and in the Chile-Heads (people who love
> >hot peppers) community, the accepted spellings have become
> >"chile" for the pepper, and "chili" for the soup or stew. "chilli"
> >isn't used at all. Dictionaries aren't the definitive answer, as
> >their meanings and spellings are derived from common usage.
> >
> Bob is correct in that dictionaries are necessarily historical. The
> spelling 'chile' for anything but a country in South America has
> bloomed very recently, but seems to be outgrowing the others.

It's more common in the Southwest I think, but not a recent usage there.
>
> I think the dictionary I quoted reflected dominate usage 30 or 40
> years ago.
>
> I admit I never saw 'chilli' until this discussion.

That's more a British or Anglo-Indian spelling.

>
> However, The OED (1928) has chilli, and chilly as English forms,
> referrs to spanish chile, chili, and Mexican 16th c native chilli.
>
> Of course the latter assumes Mayan written in a Roman alphabet. I am
> not sure how that can be independent of Spanish, but I am not a
> linguist.
>
> Southwestern US usage probably has a lot of Spanish influence.

Of course.
>
> Old habits die hard, especially for old geezers. I will probably
> continue to use "chili" automatically for both soup and the pepper.
>
> Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a
>
>
LOL that's fine. Here in NM, 'chile' is the official spelling. But as
you don't live here, it doesn't matter.

Peter Aitken > wrote:
>Cutting them open versus adding them whole makes a big difference. Also, the
>chemical that provides the "hot" is soluble in oil so more of it might come
>out in an oily dish than a non-oily dish. By the way it is chili not chilli.

He

Chile: a pepper
Chilli: alternate for chile
Chili: meat and chile spice
Chilly: colder than cool

--Blair
"This has been a Public-Service Announcement."

Peter Aitken > wrote:
>The dictionary

"The" dictionary?

--Blair
"The definite article."

Blair P. Houghton > wrote:

> Chile: a pepper
> Chilli: alternate for chile
> Chili: meat and chile spice
> Chilly: colder than cool

So, does anyone know the derivation of the term? I mean,
I'm curious, did somebody ask, "Are those hot peppers?"
and just get a smartass answer that stuck, or is there
some other origin for the name? Is it an Anglicized version
of some word from another language? My dictionary suggests
it may come from Nahuatl.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

wrote:
>
> Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
>
> > Chile: a pepper
> > Chilli: alternate for chile
> > Chili: meat and chile spice
> > Chilly: colder than cool
>
> So, does anyone know the derivation of the term? I mean,
> I'm curious, did somebody ask, "Are those hot peppers?"
> and just get a smartass answer that stuck, or is there
> some other origin for the name? Is it an Anglicized version
> of some word from another language? My dictionary suggests
> it may come from Nahuatl.


It was probably Incan for, "Gotcha!"




Brian Rodenborn

Rodney Myrvaagnes > wrote in message >. ..
> On Tue, 11 May 2004 09:28:10 -0500, zxcvbob >
> wrote:
>
> >Peter Aitken wrote:
> >
> >> By the way it is chili not chilli.
> >
> >
> >It's best not to be pedantic unless you are right. The word is "chile".
> > "Chili" is a stew made with chiles.
> >
>
> From the Random House unabridged, 2nd ed.:
>
> Chili, n Pl chilies, also called chili pepper, the pungent pod ofany
> of several species of Capsicum, esp C. annuum longum used in cooking
> for its pungent flavor. {2,3} Also, chile, chilli
>
>
> So everyone is ok, but chili is preferred.

Not around here (Southern California, where a lot of chiles are
consumed). Always "chile" for the vegetable, and the strain usually
(but not always) follows: "chile pasilla"; "pasilla chile" looks
weird. (Also, the "pasilla" chiles in California are more likely
"ancho", but nobody seems to be too concerned with this.)

Also "chile" for dishes made with chiles: "chile verde", "chile
colorado", etc. I've seen both "chile con carne" and "chili con
carne", with the latter occurring more often on Americanized versions
of this dish.

--
Chris Green

BubbaBob wrote:
>
> Arri London > wrote:
>
> >
> > True, but according to the Chile Pepper Institute, NM does grow
> > 'mild' green chiles. But mild is relative of course.
> >
>
> The mildest NM-grown green is probably 5 times the Scoville rating of
> a California-grown Anaheim.


That's likely to be true of course.
A few years ago my mother bought some chile plants labelled as
'Anaheim'; she is a chile wimp.
She showed me the photos of what grew: habaneros LOL! Fortunately she
didn't try to eat them....

Arri London wrote:

> That's likely to be true of course.
> A few years ago my mother bought some chile plants labelled as
> 'Anaheim'; she is a chile wimp.
> She showed me the photos of what grew: habaneros LOL! Fortunately she
> didn't try to eat them....

That's hysterical. It's like ordering a beer and getting served liquid LSD.

--
Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot) com

Reg wrote:
>
> Arri London wrote:
>
> > That's likely to be true of course.
> > A few years ago my mother bought some chile plants labelled as
> > 'Anaheim'; she is a chile wimp.
> > She showed me the photos of what grew: habaneros LOL! Fortunately she
> > didn't try to eat them....
>
> That's hysterical. It's like ordering a beer and getting served liquid LSD.
>
>

Of course, most young chile plants look identical. We've had mislabelled
plants before. Until the fruit starts to form, not easy to tell which is
which.
We now have a 'mystery' chile plant that wasn't labelled at all. However
the chiles now forming are one of the elongated sorts, so I know they
aren't habaneros or scotch bonnets or any of the spherical chiles. Needs
a little while more to see just what they are.