Greg hasn't posted here for a while. It seems that he's been banned
from posting via google because someone got their knickers in a twist
about an OT post he made here several months ago. He's asked me to
apologize for his offense. This is it. He's sorry.

Greg's a nice guy. That someone reported him to google for doing once
what a boatload of others continue to do here regularly and frequently
boggles my mind. And he regrets that he wasn't able to address his
transgression on group and apologize in this forum.
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> updated 5/7/04 - Fajita Soup.

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> Greg hasn't posted here for a while. It seems that he's been banned
> from posting via google because someone got their knickers in a twist
> about an OT post he made here several months ago. He's asked me to
> apologize for his offense. This is it. He's sorry.
>
> Greg's a nice guy. That someone reported him to google for doing once
> what a boatload of others continue to do here regularly and frequently
> boggles my mind. And he regrets that he wasn't able to address his
> transgression on group and apologize in this forum.

What the hell? That's ridiculous. And, unless I'm mistaken, I haven't
seen him post anything offensive so this is uncalled for. Tell him
to find a way to get back here. He sure doesn't owe me any apology.

nancy (waving: Hi Greg!)

>Nancy Young writes:
>
>Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>
>> Greg hasn't posted here for a while. It seems that he's been banned
>> from posting via google because someone got their knickers in a twist
>> about an OT post he made here several months ago. He's asked me to
>> apologize for his offense. This is it. He's sorry.
>>
>> Greg's a nice guy. That someone reported him to google for doing once
>> what a boatload of others continue to do here regularly and frequently
>> boggles my mind. And he regrets that he wasn't able to address his
>> transgression on group and apologize in this forum.
>
>What the hell? That's ridiculous. And, unless I'm mistaken, I haven't
>seen him post anything offensive so this is uncalled for. Tell him
>to find a way to get back here. He sure doesn't owe me any apology.
>
>nancy (waving: Hi Greg!)

Sheesh... what could he have said that's worse than anything that I've said at
least a zillion times?




---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
*********
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Sheldon
````````````

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> Greg hasn't posted here for a while. It seems that he's been banned
> from posting via google because someone got their knickers in a twist
> about an OT post he made here several months ago. He's asked me to
> apologize for his offense. This is it. He's sorry.
>
> Greg's a nice guy. That someone reported him to google for doing once
> what a boatload of others continue to do here regularly and frequently
> boggles my mind. And he regrets that he wasn't able to address his
> transgression on group and apologize in this forum.


Have him try news.individual.net.




Brian Rodenborn

Sheldon wrote:

> Sheesh... what could he have said that's worse than anything that I've
said at
> least a zillion times?


That's why Google doesn't archive any of your recent posts, Sheldon....

--
Best
Greg

>
>Greg hasn't posted here for a while. It seems that he's been banned
>from posting via google because someone got their knickers in a twist
>about an OT post he made here several months ago. He's asked me to
>apologize for his offense. This is it. He's sorry.
>
>Greg's a nice guy. That someone reported him to google for doing once
>what a boatload of others continue to do here regularly and frequently
>boggles my mind. And he regrets that he wasn't able to address his
>transgression on group and apologize in this forum.
>--
>-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> updated 5/7/04 - Fajita Soup.
>


This is crazy, I do not remember anything he has said that was so awful. This
newsgroup has had people make comments all the time and not get into trouble.
I think Google is out of line...
Rosie

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> Greg hasn't posted here for a while. It seems that he's been banned
> from posting via google because someone got their knickers in a twist
> about an OT post he made here several months ago. He's asked me to
> apologize for his offense. This is it. He's sorry.

Give us some key words so I can google it and see how my knickers do.
blacksalt
untwisted, for the most part

RMiller wrote:

> This is crazy, I do not remember anything he has said that was so awful. This
> newsgroup has had people make comments all the time and not get into trouble.
> I think Google is out of line...


Since people don't pay to use google, they have a very hardass policy
towards spamming, trolling and off-topic posting in general. They'd
rather can people when complaints come in than deal with it.

It should be noted that most ISPs forbid off-topic posting to usenet
groups. It's just that few will take action for relatively innocuous
instances, because they don't want to get rid of paying customers.
Google doesn't have that problem.




Brian Rodenborn

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
> Greg hasn't posted here for a while. It seems that he's been banned
> from posting via google because someone got their knickers in a twist
> about an OT post he made here several months ago. He's asked me to
> apologize for his offense. This is it. He's sorry.
>
> Greg's a nice guy. That someone reported him to google for doing once
> what a boatload of others continue to do here regularly and frequently
> boggles my mind. And he regrets that he wasn't able to address his
> transgression on group and apologize in this forum.
> --
> -Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> updated 5/7/04 - Fajita Soup.

Nothing against Greg, but the idea that he has been banned from posting for
a single off-topic post really stretches the imagination. And even if he was
it would take about 5 minutes to find another way to post. This story just
does not hold water.


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> Greg hasn't posted here for a while. It seems that he's been banned
> from posting via google because someone got their knickers in a twist
> about an OT post he made here several months ago. He's asked me to
> apologize for his offense. This is it. He's sorry.
>
> Greg's a nice guy. That someone reported him to google for doing once
> what a boatload of others continue to do here regularly and frequently
> boggles my mind. And he regrets that he wasn't able to address his
> transgression on group and apologize in this forum.


You gotta be kidding. The following is the only thing I could find by
Greg that was even off-topic (except when he replied to someone else's
OT bullshit.) BTW, I didn't use Google to search jic they had expunged
his post; a server that I don't use very often still has almost 100000
active messages for r.f.c.

Brace yourselves, this isn't pretty [he said, sarcasticly]:

> Path: sn-us!sn-xit-01!sn-xit-08!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail
> From: (Greg Zywicki)
> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
> Subject: OT - Why Dean Lost
> Date: 20 Jan 2004 11:48:20 -0800
> Organization: http://groups.google.com
> Lines: 10
> Message-ID: >
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.208.160.27
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1074628100 28882 127.0.0.1 (20 Jan 2004 19:48:20 GMT)
> X-Complaints-To:
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:48:20 +0000 (UTC)
> Xref: sn-us rec.food.cooking:1151668
>
> Because he's a freakin' maniac. To whit:
>
> http://www.littletinylies.com/archives/001668.html
>
> Play it again and again - the laughs don't stop.
>
> Greg Zywicki
>
> Oh yeah, search the site for recipes if you really need some obfood.
> Steve Loves him his food.


Best regards,
Bob

>zxcvbob writes:
>
>> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>
>> Greg hasn't posted here for a while. It seems that he's been banned
>> from posting via google because someone got their knickers in a twist
>> about an OT post he made here several months ago. He's asked me to
>> apologize for his offense. This is it. He's sorry.
>>
>> Greg's a nice guy. That someone reported him to google for doing once
>> what a boatload of others continue to do here regularly and frequently
>> boggles my mind. And he regrets that he wasn't able to address his
>> transgression on group and apologize in this forum.
>
>
>You gotta be kidding.

<snip>

There's got to be more to this, something we're not being told. ISPs do not
investigate reports of mere OT posts, especially not to UNmoderated
Newsgroups... if ISPs zapped accounts for mere OT posts there'd be no Usenet...
this in fact is an entirely OT thread and we're all still here. And in fact
ISPs are far more likely to investigate the Newsgroup Police Complaintants,
especially the Serial Complaintants. So Barb, did Greg Zywicki contact you
via email? If he did than he has internet access, and if he has internet
access he can subscribe to Newsgroups. Perhaps he never really had his own
ISP, he could have been using his employer's account, as is true with most
Googlers, Hotmailers, any freebie accounts... perhaps he no longer has access
to his employer's account, that sounds more like the *real* deal. This story
smells funny (fercocktah funny)... kinda like boiled BEETS... now we're back on
topic.


---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
*********
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Sheldon
````````````

Melba's Jammin' > wrote in news:barbschaller-
:

> Greg hasn't posted here for a while. It seems that he's been banned
> from posting via google because someone got their knickers in a twist
> about an OT post he made here several months ago. He's asked me to
> apologize for his offense. This is it. He's sorry.
>
> Greg's a nice guy. That someone reported him to google for doing once
> what a boatload of others continue to do here regularly and frequently
> boggles my mind. And he regrets that he wasn't able to address his
> transgression on group and apologize in this forum.

That's too bad, and he's missed here by me and, I'm sure, by many others.
Obviously there must be a reason why he must post via google, but AFAIC
google is one of the worst posting methods there is. Hope he finds a way!

--
Wayne

Big on natural foods?? 82.38% of people die of "natural" causes.

Steve Wertz wrote:

> Sheldon is one of only 9 people in the whole *world* that
> Deja-Google has singled out and censored like that. I think
> that's hilarious

I tried telling him that a while back but he didn't seem to
understand... they haven't been archiving his posts for about 2 years now...

~john


--
"Black holes are where God divided by Zero." - Steven Wright

Wayne > wrote in
:

> Melba's Jammin' > wrote in
> news:barbschaller- :
>
>> Greg hasn't posted here for a while. It seems that he's been banned
>> from posting via google because someone got their knickers in a twist
>> about an OT post he made here several months ago. He's asked me to
>> apologize for his offense. This is it. He's sorry.
>>
>> Greg's a nice guy. That someone reported him to google for doing
>> once what a boatload of others continue to do here regularly and
>> frequently boggles my mind. And he regrets that he wasn't able to
>> address his transgression on group and apologize in this forum.
>
> That's too bad, and he's missed here by me and, I'm sure, by many
> others. Obviously there must be a reason why he must post via google,
> but AFAIC google is one of the worst posting methods there is. Hope
> he finds a way!
>

Wasn't greg kind of stalking Sheryl? Perhaps that's the reason.

--
Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but food
and water.
--------
FIELDS, W. C.

hahabogus wrote:
> Wayne > wrote in
> :
>
>
>>Melba's Jammin' > wrote in
>>news:barbschaller- :
>>
>>
>>>Greg hasn't posted here for a while. It seems that he's been banned
>>>from posting via google because someone got their knickers in a twist
>>>about an OT post he made here several months ago. He's asked me to
>>>apologize for his offense. This is it. He's sorry.
>>>
>>>Greg's a nice guy. That someone reported him to google for doing
>>>once what a boatload of others continue to do here regularly and
>>>frequently boggles my mind. And he regrets that he wasn't able to
>>>address his transgression on group and apologize in this forum.
>>
>>That's too bad, and he's missed here by me and, I'm sure, by many
>>others. Obviously there must be a reason why he must post via google,
>>but AFAIC google is one of the worst posting methods there is. Hope
>>he finds a way!
>>
>
>
> Wasn't greg kind of stalking Sheryl? Perhaps that's the reason.
>

Different Greg.

Best regards,
Bob

>hahabogus sed:
>
>Wasn't greg kind of stalking Sheryl? Perhaps that's the reason.

Different Greg.


---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
*********
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Sheldon
````````````

zxcvbob wrote:

> > Wasn't greg kind of stalking Sheryl? Perhaps that's the reason.
> >
>
> Different Greg.


Who? Me?

--
Best
Greg ;---)

Sheldon wrote:

> There's got to be more to this, something we're not being told. ISPs do
not
> investigate reports of mere OT posts, especially not to UNmoderated
> Newsgroups... if ISPs zapped accounts for mere OT posts there'd be no
Usenet...
> this in fact is an entirely OT thread and we're all still here. And in
fact
> ISPs are far more likely to investigate the Newsgroup Police
Complaintants,
> especially the Serial Complaintants.


These Serial NetKKKoppers are the *lowest* form of scum - and in the long
run their devious ways *always* come back to haunt them....sometimes with
*real life* repurcussions....

A few years back one of these Serial NetKKKoppers (on a travel group) got
hers and but *good*. Several folks got tired of her scumbaggery ways (phony
compaints to their ISP's, etc.) and it eventually led to her being fired
from her job....

--
Best
Greg

Steve Wertz wrote:

> Sheldon is one of only 9 people in the whole *world* that
> Deja-Google has singled out and censored like that. I think
> that's hilarious


Which is why as a Usenet "archive" Google sux...AFAIK Deja (and also Remarq)
*never* engaged in censoring of anyone's posts....

A coupla years ago I happened to question someone's veracity on a travel
group and as a result of her complaints Google completely erased about nine
months of my postings on *every* group I had posted on. Doesn't matter to
me <shrug/>, but as a policy it's a pretty lame SOP.

*All* Usenet posts (including Sheldon's) should be permanently archived. I
like Google and it's many useful utilities but their half - azzed and hare -
brained Usenet "policies" are really something of a laffin' stock....

Boy do I really miss Deja and Remarq....

--
Best
Greg

On Fri, 14 May 2004 21:12:15 -0400, Levelwave©
> wrote:

> Steve Wertz wrote:
>
> > Sheldon is one of only 9 people in the whole *world* that
> > Deja-Google has singled out and censored like that. I think
> > that's hilarious
>
> I tried telling him that a while back but he didn't seem to
> understand... they haven't been archiving his posts for about 2 years now...
>
Obviously, he doesn't care and it's no big deal to anyone -
except those who want to google him.



Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Fri, 14 May 2004 14:30:36 -0500, Steve Wertz
> wrote:

> On Fri, 14 May 2004 12:59:08 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> > wrote:
>
> >Greg hasn't posted here for a while. It seems that he's been banned
> >from posting via google because someone got their knickers in a twist
> >about an OT post he made here several months ago. He's asked me to
> >apologize for his offense. This is it. He's sorry.
>
> All he has to do is create another account. They're free.
>
Why wouldn't he use a real news reader and a real ISP?
Google isn't the easiest way to read your ngs on a regular
basis.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Fri, 14 May 2004 12:59:08 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

> Greg hasn't posted here for a while. It seems that he's been banned
> from posting via google because someone got their knickers in a twist
> about an OT post he made here several months ago. He's asked me to
> apologize for his offense. This is it. He's sorry.
>
> Greg's a nice guy. That someone reported him to google for doing once
> what a boatload of others continue to do here regularly and frequently
> boggles my mind. And he regrets that he wasn't able to address his
> transgression on group and apologize in this forum.

How does he know that google banned him and it's not just a
glitch in the system? Why doesn't he post through his ISP
using a real news reader? I'd never consider using Google
as my main news source.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

I cannot imagine what could be said that could _possibly_cut him outta
the herd. This is nuts.

~~~Gina~~~

In article >,
wrote:
> How does he know that google banned him and it's not just a
> glitch in the system?

They told him.

>Why doesn't he post through his ISP using a real news reader?

Beats me. You can look him up via google, get his mail address from a
post, and ask him.
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> updated 5/7/04 - Fajita Soup.

In article >, hahabogus
> wrote:

> Wasn't greg kind of stalking Sheryl? Perhaps that's the reason.

Wrong Greg.
Gregory Morrow harrasses her occasionally, but not Greg Zywicki (AFAIK).
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> updated 5/7/04 - Fajita Soup.

In article >,
(PENMART01) wrote:

> >zxcvbob writes:
> >
> >> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> >>
> >> Greg hasn't posted here for a while. It seems that he's been
> >> banned from posting via google because someone got their knickers
> >> in a twist about an OT post he made here several months ago. He's
> >> asked me to apologize for his offense. This is it. He's sorry.
> >>
> >> Greg's a nice guy. That someone reported him to google for doing
> >> once what a boatload of others continue to do here regularly and
> >> frequently boggles my mind. And he regrets that he wasn't able
> >> to address his transgression on group and apologize in this forum.
> >
> >
> >You gotta be kidding.
>
> <snip>
>
> There's got to be more to this, something we're not being told. ISPs
> do not investigate reports of mere OT posts, especially not to
> UNmoderated Newsgroups... if ISPs zapped accounts

His ISP didn't zap him. He posted to news via Google and Google zapped
his ability to do so.

>for mere OT posts there'd be no Usenet... this in fact is an entirely
>OT thread and we're all still here. And in fact ISPs are far more
>likely to investigate the Newsgroup Police Complaintants, especially
>the Serial Complaintants. So Barb, did Greg Zywicki contact you via
>email?

He did.

>If he did than he has internet access, and if he has internet access
>he can subscribe to Newsgroups. Perhaps he never really had his own
>ISP, he could have been using his employer's account, as is true with
>most Googlers, Hotmailers, any freebie accounts... perhaps he no
>longer has access to his employer's account, that sounds more like the
>*real* deal. This story smells funny (fercocktah funny)... kinda
>like boiled BEETS... now we're back on topic.

I think you're wrong. I believe that the cs.com in his mail address
stands for compuserve. I also think your speculation about using a free
mail account is hooey. I don't know why he chose to use google for
posting to groups. zxcvbob posted the post that got him bounced and it
includes his mail address.
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> updated 5/7/04 - Fajita Soup.

In article >, kalanamak
> wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> >
> > Greg hasn't posted here for a while. It seems that he's been banned
> > from posting via google because someone got their knickers in a twist
> > about an OT post he made here several months ago. He's asked me to
> > apologize for his offense. This is it. He's sorry.
>
> Give us some key words so I can google it and see how my knickers do.
> blacksalt
> untwisted, for the most part

Zxcvbob posted it last night. Subject was marked OT and referenced a
former Democratic presidential candidate wannabe.
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> updated 5/7/04 - Fajita Soup.

"Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
om...
> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Greg hasn't posted here for a while. It seems that he's been banned
> > from posting via google because someone got their knickers in a twist
> > about an OT post he made here several months ago. He's asked me to
> > apologize for his offense. This is it. He's sorry.
> >
> > Greg's a nice guy. That someone reported him to google for doing once
> > what a boatload of others continue to do here regularly and frequently
> > boggles my mind. And he regrets that he wasn't able to address his
> > transgression on group and apologize in this forum.
> > --
> > -Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> updated 5/7/04 - Fajita Soup.
>
> Nothing against Greg, but the idea that he has been banned from posting
for
> a single off-topic post really stretches the imagination. And even if he
was
> it would take about 5 minutes to find another way to post. This story just
> does not hold water.
>
He was very critical of Howard Dean and you will have
people after your head trying to "Shut you up!" if you don't
toe the PC line.
>

>Melba's Jammin' writes:
>

>(PENMART01) wrote:
>> >zxcvbob writes:
>> >> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Greg hasn't posted here for a while. It seems that he's been
>> >> banned from posting via google because someone got their knickers
>> >> in a twist about an OT post he made here several months ago. He's
>> >> asked me to apologize for his offense. This is it. He's sorry.
>> >>
>> >> Greg's a nice guy. That someone reported him to google for doing
>> >> once what a boatload of others continue to do here regularly and
>> >> frequently boggles my mind. And he regrets that he wasn't able
>> >> to address his transgression on group and apologize in this forum.
>> >
>> >
>> >You gotta be kidding.
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> There's got to be more to this, something we're not being told. ISPs
>> do not investigate reports of mere OT posts, especially not to
>> UNmoderated Newsgroups... if ISPs zapped accounts
>
>His ISP didn't zap him. He posted to news via Google and Google zapped
>his ability to do so.
>
>>for mere OT posts there'd be no Usenet... this in fact is an entirely
>>OT thread and we're all still here. And in fact ISPs are far more
>>likely to investigate the Newsgroup Police Complaintants, especially
>>the Serial Complaintants. So Barb, did Greg Zywicki contact you via
>>email?
>
>He did.
>
>>If he did than he has internet access, and if he has internet access
>>he can subscribe to Newsgroups. Perhaps he never really had his own
>>ISP, he could have been using his employer's account, as is true with
>>most Googlers, Hotmailers, any freebie accounts... perhaps he no
>>longer has access to his employer's account, that sounds more like the
>>*real* deal. This story smells funny (fercocktah funny)... kinda
>>like boiled BEETS... now we're back on topic.
>
>I think you're wrong. I believe that the cs.com in his mail address
>stands for compuserve. I also think your speculation about using a free
>mail account is hooey.

I said PERHAPS, you do know the definition of PERHAPS... speculation is not
hooey, it's speculation... what's hooey is YOUR posting soap operish
DRIVEL... as if it were important... NOT!

I seriously doubt a single soul gives a flying F if Greg can post to google or
not. IT'S NOT IMPORTANT... certainly not important enough that you would
choose to abash folks for replying to YOUR fercocktah post... hey, you don't
like replys, DO NOT POST!!!

>I don't know why he chose to use google for
>posting to groups. zxcvbob posted the post that got him bounced and it
>includes his mail address.

So, he has an ISP (Compuserve) and can send email (COULD HAVE POSTED HIS OWN
HOGWASH HIMSELF) and post to any Newsgroup at will and can tell us his
GRATUITOUS problems himself... which is essentially what I had said
previously... so then why do we need to know about his personal Google episode
through a third party... this thread is pure sillyness...must be a pickle hat
stroke.

Ahahahahaha. . . .






---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
*********
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Sheldon
````````````

Barb wrote:

> In article >,
> wrote:
> > How does he know that google banned him and it's not just a
> > glitch in the system?
>
> They told him.


I don't know about that....

AFAIK when Google puts the kibbosh on your Usenet posting capability, they
don't do anything to indicate that you've been banned....you get no
correspondence about the situation. You seemingly post as before, but your
posts simply don't show up. There is no "posting privileges rescinded" or
whatever message that pops up when you try to post....which is sloppy
practice and is still another reason why Google falls far short of the mark
when it comes to Usenet....

--
Best
Greg

"Dog3" <dognospam@adjfkdla;not> wrote in message
4...
> "Mr. Wizard" >
> . com:
>
> > He was very critical of Howard Dean and you will have
> > people after your head trying to "Shut you up!" if you don't
> > toe the PC line.
>
> Says who? I've been slamming the Bush family for decades. Especially the
> one that lives a mile down the road from me. Never had a problem being
> bounced from anywhere and I've been scathing in some of my posts.
>
Criticize a Democrat and you would be.
It's the socialists who can't stand dissent.
If they could cook good Barbecue they would take over the world.

Dog3 wrote:

> "Gregory Morrow" >
> ink.net:
>
>
>>
>>I don't know about that....
>>
>>AFAIK when Google puts the kibbosh on your Usenet posting capability,
>>they don't do anything to indicate that you've been banned....you get
>>no correspondence about the situation. You seemingly post as before,
>>but your posts simply don't show up. There is no "posting privileges
>>rescinded" or whatever message that pops up when you try to
>>post....which is sloppy practice and is still another reason why
>>Google falls far short of the mark when it comes to Usenet....
>
>
> Google is a free service so how can one say it falls far shor of the mark
> when it comes to Usenet? No, they do not offer the same services to Usenet
> posters that most pay ISPs and news services but what they do offer is
> adequate. They do not owe explanations to anyone.
>
> Michael
>

They don't have to let anyone use their service, but they have set
themselves up as *the* defacto archive of usenet, and they have some
responsibility to keep the archives accurate. They are way too quick to
purge messages from the archives that were *not* posted using their
posting service.

The archivist of a public forum has a responsibility to keep an accurate
history -- warts and all.

Best regards,
Bob

zxcvbob wrote:

> They don't have to let anyone use their service, but they have set
> themselves up as *the* defacto archive of usenet, and they have some
> responsibility to keep the archives accurate. They are way too quick to
> purge messages from the archives that were *not* posted using their
> posting service.
>
> The archivist of a public forum has a responsibility to keep an accurate
> history -- warts and all.


Thank you :-)

--
Best
Greg

In article >,
(PENMART01) wrote:

> >Melba's Jammin' writes:
> >
>
> >(PENMART01) wrote:
> >> >zxcvbob writes:
> >> >> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Greg hasn't posted here for a while. It seems that he's been
> >> >> banned from posting via google because someone got their knickers
> >> >> in a twist about an OT post he made here several months ago. He's
> >> >> asked me to apologize for his offense. This is it. He's sorry.
> >> >>
> >> >> Greg's a nice guy. That someone reported him to google for doing
> >> >> once what a boatload of others continue to do here regularly and
> >> >> frequently boggles my mind. And he regrets that he wasn't able
> >> >> to address his transgression on group and apologize in this forum.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >You gotta be kidding.
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >> There's got to be more to this, something we're not being told. ISPs
> >> do not investigate reports of mere OT posts, especially not to
> >> UNmoderated Newsgroups... if ISPs zapped accounts
> >
> >His ISP didn't zap him. He posted to news via Google and Google zapped
> >his ability to do so.
> >
> >>for mere OT posts there'd be no Usenet... this in fact is an entirely
> >>OT thread and we're all still here. And in fact ISPs are far more
> >>likely to investigate the Newsgroup Police Complaintants, especially
> >>the Serial Complaintants. So Barb, did Greg Zywicki contact you via
> >>email?
> >
> >He did.
> >
> >>If he did than he has internet access, and if he has internet access
> >>he can subscribe to Newsgroups. Perhaps he never really had his own
> >>ISP, he could have been using his employer's account, as is true with
> >>most Googlers, Hotmailers, any freebie accounts... perhaps he no
> >>longer has access to his employer's account, that sounds more like the
> >>*real* deal. This story smells funny (fercocktah funny)... kinda
> >>like boiled BEETS... now we're back on topic.
> >
> >I think you're wrong. I believe that the cs.com in his mail address
> >stands for compuserve. I also think your speculation about using a free
> >mail account is hooey.
>
> I said PERHAPS, you do know the definition of PERHAPS... speculation
> is not hooey, it's speculation...

You're right. I thought perhaps you were being sarcastic in your use
of the word. "-) My bad.

> what's hooey is YOUR posting soap operish DRIVEL... as if it were
> important... NOT!

Sweetie, it's no more drivel than some of the stuff you post. As to its
importance, it rang your bell enough that you chose to remark on it
rather than ignore it.

> I seriously doubt a single soul gives a flying F if Greg can post to
> google or not. IT'S NOT IMPORTANT... certainly not important enough
> that you would choose to abash

Abash?
"a·bash vt
to make somebody feel ashamed, embarrassed, or uncomfortable"

Sheldon, I can't imagine ANYONE making you feel ashamed, embarrassed, or
uncomfortable. <grin>

>folks for replying to YOUR fercocktah
> post... hey, you don't like replys, DO NOT POST!!!

The word is "replies". "-)
(snip)
> this thread is pure sillyness...must be a pickle hat stroke.

Hey, I'm not stroking any pickle hats -- that was Kramer who took those
pictures!


> Ahahahahaha. . . .
> Sheldon
> ````````````
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> updated 5/7/04 - Fajita Soup.

"Peter Aitken" > wrote in message . com>...
> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Greg hasn't posted here for a while. It seems that he's been banned
> > from posting via google because someone got their knickers in a twist
> > about an OT post he made here several months ago. He's asked me to
> > apologize for his offense. This is it. He's sorry.
> >
> > Greg's a nice guy. That someone reported him to google for doing once
> > what a boatload of others continue to do here regularly and frequently
> > boggles my mind. And he regrets that he wasn't able to address his
> > transgression on group and apologize in this forum.
> > --
> > -Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> updated 5/7/04 - Fajita Soup.
>
> Nothing against Greg, but the idea that he has been banned from posting for
> a single off-topic post really stretches the imagination. And even if he was
> it would take about 5 minutes to find another way to post. This story just
> does not hold water.

Sorry to be coy - I've been busy for a few days and couldn't respond.

First off, Praise be to Google for their service, and for benevolently
removing the "hold" on my account.

Yeah, I'm piling it on a bit thick. But seriously, it's their ball,
and they're letting me play again. I'm not going to complain. They
were within their rights.

All I know is that they put a hold on me due to excessive complaints
about OT posting. They only reffed the Dean post, and gave no info as
to whether Many people put in one complaint or one person put in many
complaints. Or one person masqueraded as many. Or if trilaterallist
deaniacs ran code from a WIFI network in their black helicopters to
spam google.

I'll have to leave you unsatisfied as to why I use a crappy free
service instead of the compuserve that I pay for (although, I gotta
say Compuserve has a pretty lame newsreader, and I vaguely recall it
being a pain to use popmail type set up. Thanks in advance for the
tips I'll get on this, but there's no need. I'll keep up this way.)

So, thanks for all the goodwill, and remember folks - if someone
tweeks you the wrong way, call them on it publicly first. Some people
(like me) might actually respect your complaint. You can always move
on to other methods later.

Greg Zywicki

(Greg Zywicki) wrote in
om:

> So, thanks for all the goodwill, and remember folks - if someone
> tweeks you the wrong way, call them on it publicly first. Some people
> (like me) might actually respect your complaint. You can always move
> on to other methods later.
>
> Greg Zywicki
>
>

OK Greg I don't like the way you're sitting in your chair...Straighten up
or I'm tellin'.

--
Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but food
and water.
--------
FIELDS, W. C.

On Sun, 16 May 2004 14:01:44 GMT, "Mr. Wizard" >
wrote:

>
>"Dog3" <dognospam@adjfkdla;not> wrote in message
. 44...
>> "Mr. Wizard" >
>> . com:
>>
>> > He was very critical of Howard Dean and you will have
>> > people after your head trying to "Shut you up!" if you don't
>> > toe the PC line.
>>
>> Says who? I've been slamming the Bush family for decades. Especially the
>> one that lives a mile down the road from me. Never had a problem being
>> bounced from anywhere and I've been scathing in some of my posts.
>>
>Criticize a Democrat and you would be.
>It's the socialists who can't stand dissent.
>If they could cook good Barbecue they would take over the world.
>

Socialist? Admitting I'm a little late to the -- erm -- Party, I
gotta say that your use of our language is rather too fast and loose
to lead to useful political discussion. (Here I'm assuming that
anything of the kind is your desire)

If you think that Dean is a socialist, then it's unlikely you'd
recognize a real socialist were he in your pants, braiding your pubic
hair.

OBFood: I'm thinking of some sort of South Beach version of smoked
ribs for tomorrow or the next day. Is this possible? (Yup, I cook
barbecue, too.)
modom

On Fri, 14 May 2004 12:59:08 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>Greg hasn't posted here for a while. It seems that he's been banned
>from posting via google because someone got their knickers in a twist
>about an OT post he made here several months ago. He's asked me to
>apologize for his offense. This is it. He's sorry.
>
>Greg's a nice guy. That someone reported him to google for doing once
>what a boatload of others continue to do here regularly and frequently
>boggles my mind. And he regrets that he wasn't able to address his
>transgression on group and apologize in this forum.

what, was he accused of biting heads from live chickens? is there a
web site where we can learn of his 'offenses'?

your puritan pal,
blake

On Sat, 15 May 2004 14:24:00 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:

>
>Steve Wertz wrote:
>
>> Sheldon is one of only 9 people in the whole *world* that
>> Deja-Google has singled out and censored like that. I think
>> that's hilarious
>
i thought you could choose whether to have your stuff archived or not.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 15 May 2004 16:31:35 GMT, sf > wrote:

>Why wouldn't he use a real news reader and a real ISP?
>Google isn't the easiest way to read your ngs on a regular
>basis.
>
um, because he's not too smart.

your pal,
blake