A mukluk wearing troll > wrote in message >. ..
> On 18 May 2004 06:22:08 GMT, (Nancree) wrote:
>
> >>Same in New Jersey, and the gas is cheaper than PA to boot. We pay around
> >>ten cents more a gallon and have to pump it.
> >>-Ginny
> >------------------------------
> >I paid $2.60 at a San Diego Costco last week--elsewhere in SanDiego it was
> >worse.
>
> I live in Toronto. Bicycles are used as transportation by a lot of
> people who live in the downtown and inner suburbs. I am both a car
> driver and a hard-core cyclist. I can pack eighty pounds of stuff on
> the bike, in the bike bags and on the rear carrier, no problem.
>
> I'm doing up some T-shirts with a friend of mine that will say on the
> back, in big letters, readable at 30 feet:
>
> 0¢/litre
>
>
>


Here in Honduras, gas has been over two dollars a gallon for several
years. Right now it is at $3.11 cents a gallon (and minimum monthly
wage for Hondurans is 2,200 Lempira or $122). I walk everywhere in
the downtown area where I live. I may take a 75 cent cab ride home if
it is pouring rain or I havea lot of groceries. I ride the schoolbus
into work with the kids in the morning and take it home in the
evening. We don't move our car except to go to the lake. If I need to
go shopping in San Pedro Sula or Tegucigalpa, I take the bus into the
city $10 round trip - much less than I would spend on gas and parking
fees!

Sandi

> What's technically correct doesn't sound right to a lot of
> us and it's not the way we speak. So, there's correct usage
> and there's common usage.

Oh, hogwash. "Common usage" is for common people.

"jimmyz" > wrote in message
> What does this have to do with food and cooking?
> >

I answered a question. What is your excuse?
Ed

On Wed, 19 May 2004 00:59:02 GMT,
> wrote:

> > What's technically correct doesn't sound right to a lot of
> > us and it's not the way we speak. So, there's correct usage
> > and there's common usage.
>
> Oh, hogwash. "Common usage" is for common people.
>
of course.



Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On 18 May 2004 06:22:08 GMT, (Nancree)
wrote:

> >Same in New Jersey, and the gas is cheaper than PA to boot. We pay around
> >ten cents more a gallon and have to pump it.
> >-Ginny
> ------------------------------
> I paid $2.60 at a San Diego Costco last week--elsewhere in SanDiego it was
> worse.
>

True story: tonight the local news highlighted a gas station
on the peninsula where regular gas is $2.33, High Octane
costs "an arm" and the price of Premium is "a leg".

Apparently gas costs an arm and a leg these days.
<drumroll & rimshot>


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

> wrote in message
k.net...
> > What's technically correct doesn't sound right to a lot of
> > us and it's not the way we speak. So, there's correct usage
> > and there's common usage.
>
> Oh, hogwash. "Common usage" is for common people.
>
>

The commonest of people are those who think they are not common.


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

> > Oh, hogwash. "Common usage" is for common people.
>
> The commonest of people are those who think they are not common.

Peter, after having followed your posts for a while, it's clear to me that
you know plenty about "common".

P&S Moore

>"The Moore Common"
>
>> > Oh, hogwash. "Common usage" is for common people.
>>
>> The commonest of people are those who think they are not common.
>
>Peter, after having followed your posts for a while, it's clear to me that
>you know plenty about "common".

"commonest" is Archie Bunker speak for Red *******.



---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
*********
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
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````````````

"The Moores" > wrote in message
k.net...
> > > Oh, hogwash. "Common usage" is for common people.
> >
> > The commonest of people are those who think they are not common.
>
> Peter, after having followed your posts for a while, it's clear to me that
> you know plenty about "common".
>
> P&S Moore
>
>

Was that supposed to be a dig? If so it would have to rise up several levels
to reach "common."

BTW are you one person or two?


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message >. ..
> "jimmyz" > wrote in message
> > What does this have to do with food and cooking?
> > >
>
> I answered a question. What is your excuse?
> Ed


My excuse for what? Your question makes no sense.

This is a food and cooking message board.

Why would you talk about gasoline here? Do you drink it, eat it, cook with it?

I'm curious.

jimmyz wrote:
>
> "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message

> > "jimmyz" > wrote in message
> > > What does this have to do with food and cooking?

> > I answered a question. What is your excuse?

> My excuse for what? Your question makes no sense.

Sure it does. Your response had zip to do with cooking either.

> This is a food and cooking message board.

It's a newsgroup.

> Why would you talk about gasoline here? Do you drink it, eat it, cook with it?
>
> I'm curious.

We talk about a lot of things, here. That's not going to change.
Just respond to what you're interested in. Or not.

nancy (made sausage and peppers sandwiches for dinner)

In article > ,
(jimmyz) wrote:


> This is a food and cooking message board.


Actually, this group has nothing to do with food or cooking, we just
called it rec.food.cooking to confuse folks like yourself.


> Why would you talk about gasoline here? Do you drink it, eat it, cook with it?


Back in the old days, white gas was a very common fuel for camp stoves.


> I'm curious.

No you're not, you're whining. And your post had nothing to do with food
or cooking.

--
Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS

Nancy Young > wrote in message >...
> jimmyz wrote:
> >
> > "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>
> > > "jimmyz" > wrote in message
> > > > What does this have to do with food and cooking?
>
> > > I answered a question. What is your excuse?
>
> > My excuse for what? Your question makes no sense.
>
> Sure it does. Your response had zip to do with cooking either.
>
> > This is a food and cooking message board.
> > It's a newsgroup.
>
> > Why would you talk about gasoline here? Do you drink it, eat it, cook with it?
> >
> > I'm curious.
>
> We talk about a lot of things, here. That's not going to change.
> Just respond to what you're interested in. Or not.
>
> nancy (made sausage and peppers sandwiches for dinner)



The title of this newsgroup is rec.food.cooking.
Most people would assume that it is concerned with these subjects.


We talk about a lot of things, here. That's not going to change.
> Just respond to what you're interested in. Or not.

Why would you talk about the price of gasoline here?

Shouldn't you find a newsgroup entitled "gas prices", "politics", "oil
companies", etc.

You ignored what I said and simply contradicted me.

(Dan Abel) wrote in message >...
> In article > ,
> (jimmyz) wrote:
>
>
> > This is a food and cooking message board.
>
>
> Actually, this group has nothing to do with food or cooking, we just
> called it rec.food.cooking to confuse folks like yourself.
>
>
> > Why would you talk about gasoline here? Do you drink it, eat it, cook with it?
>
>
> Back in the old days, white gas was a very common fuel for camp stoves.

No you're not, you're whining. And your post had nothing to do with
food
> or cooking.




What was I whining about?
Strange accusation. No explanation.

Actually, this group has nothing to do with food or cooking, we just
> called it rec.food.cooking to confuse folks like yourself.
>
The name of this newsgroup is rec.food.cooking.
A normal person would assume that food and cooking are the subjects.
It's disturbing that you would claim that this newsgroup "has nothing
to do with food or cooking"

You simply ignored what I said about your postings. Can't you find a
newsgroup concerning "oil prices", "gasoline", "politics", etc?


Contradicting doesn't change anything, it just makes you an ignoramus.

"jimmyz" said:
> The title of this newsgroup is rec.food.cooking.
> Most people would assume that it is concerned with these subjects.

Find a newsgroup called rec.food.cooking.only then, and stick with it 'cuz
God knows you must have earned it by now, eh

<then you'll be "cooking with petroleum distillates">

"jimmyz" > wrote in message
m...
> "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>. ..
> > "jimmyz" > wrote in message
> > > What does this have to do with food and cooking?
> > > >
> >
> > I answered a question. What is your excuse?
> > Ed
>
>
> My excuse for what? Your question makes no sense.
>
> This is a food and cooking message board.
>
> Why would you talk about gasoline here? Do you drink it, eat it, cook with
it?
>
> I'm curious.

You can cook with gas. You can use kerosene to start a fire. We used it
all the time when camping. Kerosene is available at many gas stations. It
all fits together.

You asked a question that had nothing to do with cooking either. I wrote
about the price of gas. I felt like it so I did. If you have a problem
with that, plonk me. What did you accomplish aside from wasting bandwidth?
The group here often gets off topic or one subject leads to another, just
like conversation around the dinner table. (see, another food reference)

I do hope you enjoy your visit here. Wish you luck in trying to change the
way people post also.
Ed

jimmyz wrote:
> Nancy Young > wrote in message
> >...
>> jimmyz wrote:
>>>
>>> "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>
>>>> "jimmyz" > wrote in message
>>>>> What does this have to do with food and cooking?
>>
>>>> I answered a question. What is your excuse?
>>
>>> My excuse for what? Your question makes no sense.
>>
>> Sure it does. Your response had zip to do with cooking either.
>>
>>> This is a food and cooking message board.
>>> It's a newsgroup.
>>
>>> Why would you talk about gasoline here? Do you drink it, eat it, cook with
>>> it?
>>>
>>> I'm curious.
>>
>> We talk about a lot of things, here. That's not going to change.
>> Just respond to what you're interested in. Or not.
>>
>> nancy (made sausage and peppers sandwiches for dinner)
>
>
>
> The title of this newsgroup is rec.food.cooking.
> Most people would assume that it is concerned with these subjects.
>
>
> We talk about a lot of things, here. That's not going to change.
>> Just respond to what you're interested in. Or not.
>
> Why would you talk about the price of gasoline here?
>
> Shouldn't you find a newsgroup entitled "gas prices", "politics", "oil
> companies", etc.
>
> You ignored what I said and simply contradicted me.

I usually am concerned about the price of gasoline when I go to buy my food.
Doesn't this count? Or do you just feel like being a net-cop?

BOB

On 2004-05-17 23:50:46 +0100, (Karen O'Mara) said:

> Nancy Young > wrote in message
> >...
>> Thank goodness, yes, in a couple of states. You pull up, Hi, hi, give
>> me 10 of super? Cash, thanks! Then they take my money and I leave.
>
> Heard on the radio this morning, that gas at a full-serve station in
> L.A. is $4/gallon.

I wish! Working out the equivalent price from £ per litre to $ per US
gallon, we're paying upwards of US$5.30 in the UK at the moment.

--
Tony

--

"Tony Walton" > wrote in message
news:c8ndo4$2e2
> >
> > Heard on the radio this morning, that gas at a full-serve station in
> > L.A. is $4/gallon.
>
> I wish! Working out the equivalent price from £ per litre to $ per US
> gallon, we're paying upwards of US$5.30 in the UK at the moment.
>
> --
> Tony
>

Another example of being ON topic. You buy gas with pounds, just like we use
pounds for a measurements in recipes so that keeps this on topic. Along the
same line, how much gas do you get from eating a pounds of beans?

Take that We know what we're doing!
Ed

http://pages.cthome.net/edhome

On 2004-05-14 22:37:51 +0100, "pavane" > said:
>
> The article begins a paragraph with "...when youngsters can't tell an onion
> from arugula..." Interestingly Microsoft's Spellchecker does not recognize
> the word "arugula."

To be honest I'd never heard of aragula (though if presented with an
onion and something that wasn't an onion I'd know which one was the
onion <smile>). It turns out that it's what we in the UK call "rocket".

--
Tony

"Tony Walton" > wrote in message
...
> > Heard on the radio this morning, that gas at a full-serve station in
> > L.A. is $4/gallon.
>
> I wish! Working out the equivalent price from £ per litre to $ per US
> gallon, we're paying upwards of US$5.30 in the UK at the moment.

How many litres in a gallon?

ant

"Tony Walton" > wrote in message
...
> On 2004-05-14 22:37:51 +0100, "pavane" > said:
> >
> > The article begins a paragraph with "...when youngsters can't tell an
onion
> > from arugula..." Interestingly Microsoft's Spellchecker does not
recognize
> > the word "arugula."
>
> To be honest I'd never heard of aragula (though if presented with an
> onion and something that wasn't an onion I'd know which one was the
> onion <smile>). It turns out that it's what we in the UK call "rocket".

yeah, we call it Rocket in Australia, too. but we learn other countries'
useage, so recipes aren't too hard. Zucchinis/courgettes, Shallots/spring
onions/scallions, Scones/biscuits, biscuits/cookies, coriander/cilantro and
the list goes on.

ant

"ant" > wrote in :

>
> "Tony Walton" > wrote in message
> ...
>> > Heard on the radio this morning, that gas at a full-serve station in
>> > L.A. is $4/gallon.
>>
>> I wish! Working out the equivalent price from £ per litre to $ per US
>> gallon, we're paying upwards of US$5.30 in the UK at the moment.
>
> How many litres in a gallon?
>
> ant
>
>
>

4.6

--
Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but food
and water.
--------
FIELDS, W. C.

"ant" > wrote in
:

> yeah, we call it Rocket in Australia, too. but we learn other
> countries' useage, so recipes aren't too hard. Zucchinis/courgettes,
> Shallots/spring onions/scallions, Scones/biscuits, biscuits/cookies,
> coriander/cilantro and the list goes on.
>
> ant
>
>

I think you'll find shallots and scallions aren't the same. Scallions are a
white bulbous end with a green upper body...but way smaller than a leek.
And Shallots are small redish/purplish onion shaped balls wrapped in a tan
papery skin, just a little bigger than a pearl onion... about garlic
head/cluster sized. Perhaps using a google image search for them might
explain better.

--
Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but food
and water.
--------
FIELDS, W. C.

(jimmyz) wrote in message om>...
> "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message >. ..
> > "jimmyz" > wrote in message
> > > What does this have to do with food and cooking?
> > > >
> >
> > I answered a question. What is your excuse?
> > Ed
>
>
> My excuse for what? Your question makes no sense.
>
> This is a food and cooking message board.
>
> Why would you talk about gasoline here? Do you drink it, eat it, cook with it?
>
> I'm curious.

No...but I put it in my car so I can drive to the market to buy the
food to cook and eat.

Go be a net nanny someplace else.

Sandi

jimmyz wrote:
>
> Nancy Young > wrote in message

> > We talk about a lot of things, here. That's not going to change.
> > Just respond to what you're interested in. Or not.
> >
> > nancy (made sausage and peppers sandwiches for dinner)

> The title of this newsgroup is rec.food.cooking.
> Most people would assume that it is concerned with these subjects.

And it is. Other subjects come up as well. Like it or lump it.

>
> We talk about a lot of things, here. That's not going to change.
> > Just respond to what you're interested in. Or not.
>
> Why would you talk about the price of gasoline here?

Because people wanted to. They for sure don't need your permission,
no offense.

> Shouldn't you find a newsgroup entitled "gas prices", "politics", "oil
> companies", etc.

No.

> You ignored what I said and simply contradicted me.

Okay, I answered you, how is that ignoring you? Don't answer,
rhetorical question. Contradict you? I just told it like it is.
If you don't like the off topic stuff, ignore it because it's not
going away.

Now, since OT posting annoys you, why don't you stop doing it?

nancy

hahabogus wrote:

> I think you'll find shallots and scallions aren't the same. Scallions are a
> white bulbous end with a green upper body but way smaller than a leek.
> And shallots are small redish/purplish onion shaped balls wrapped in a tan
> papery skin just a little bigger than a pearl onion, about garlic
> head/cluster sized. Perhaps using a google image search for them might
> explain better.


It never hurts to google, but you'll still find that this one of those
things that depends on what part of the country (or world) you're in.
There are places where what I call a shallot, they call a scallion. Or
the other way round. It always takes a few minutes to untangle the
confusion and figure out what we're talking about.

--Lia

In article >, hahabogus
> wrote:

> "ant" > wrote in :

> > How many litres in a gallon?

> 4.6


I think you got it backwards. I get 3.7852 using google. I just call it
4 and to heck with it!

--
Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS

"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, hahabogus
> > wrote:
>
> > "ant" > wrote in
:
>
> > > How many litres in a gallon?
>
> > 4.6
>
>
> I think you got it backwards. I get 3.7852 using google. I just call it
> 4 and to heck with it!

That depends on whether you're talking about a US gallon or an imperial
gallon. 3.7L in a US gallon but 4.54 L in an imperial gallon.

Gabby

On 2004-05-22 13:19:34 +0100, "ant" > said:
> yeah, we call it Rocket in Australia, too. but we learn other countries'
> useage, so recipes aren't too hard. Zucchinis/courgettes, Shallots/spring
> onions/scallions,

Not here (Up Over?)? Spring Onions (known as scallions in the US and
Northern England, but not Standard English English) are not the same as
shallots. I believe that "shallots" *is* an Australian usage for spring
onions, though.

There was recently a fashion in UK supermarkets for calling them
"salad onions", on some specious grounds of them being available
year-round, not just in the Spring. They seem to have stopped that now.


> Scones/biscuits, biscuits/cookies,

True. The things I've seen in the US as "biscuits" are nowhere near
what I (in the UK) would call biscuits. Interesting, the way words
differ...

--
Tony

On 2004-05-22 21:11:19 +0100, (Dan Abel) said:

> In article >, hahabogus
> > wrote:
>
>> "ant" > wrote in :
>
>>> How many litres in a gallon?
>
>> 4.6
>
>
> I think you got it backwards. I get 3.7852 using google.

Depends what sort of gallon. A US gallon is 3.785-ish litres, a UK
(Imperial) gallon is 4.546-ish litres.

It comes from the differing pints. A US pint is 16 fluid ounces (so a
US pint of water weighs 1lb), a UK pint is 20 fluid ounces (so a UK
gallon of water weighs 10lb). Yes, to be pedantic the fluid ounces also
differ a little.

--
Tony

In article >,
"ant" > wrote:

> "Tony Walton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 2004-05-14 22:37:51 +0100, "pavane" > said:
> > >
> > > The article begins a paragraph with "...when youngsters can't tell an
> onion
> > > from arugula..." Interestingly Microsoft's Spellchecker does not
> recognize
> > > the word "arugula."
> >
> > To be honest I'd never heard of aragula (though if presented with an
> > onion and something that wasn't an onion I'd know which one was the
> > onion <smile>). It turns out that it's what we in the UK call "rocket".
>
> yeah, we call it Rocket in Australia, too. but we learn other countries'
> useage, so recipes aren't too hard. Zucchinis/courgettes, Shallots/spring
> onions/scallions, Scones/biscuits, biscuits/cookies, coriander/cilantro and
> the list goes on.

Um, um...

Shallots are not the same things as spring onions/scallions.

Miche

--
If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud.
-- Arlo Guthrie, "Alice's Restaurant"

"hahabogus" > wrote in message
...

> I think you'll find shallots and scallions aren't the same. Scallions are
a
> white bulbous end with a green upper body...but way smaller than a leek.
> And Shallots are small redish/purplish onion shaped balls wrapped in a tan
> papery skin, just a little bigger than a pearl onion... about garlic
> head/cluster sized. Perhaps using a google image search for them might
> explain better.

Yes, but in australia, shallots are spring onions...long straight things.
Then it gets confusing though because sometimes spring onions are the ones
with a distinct bulb. Sometimes they are scallions.

ant

"Tony Walton" > wrote in message
...
> > Scones/biscuits, biscuits/cookies,
>
> True. The things I've seen in the US as "biscuits" are nowhere near
> what I (in the UK) would call biscuits. Interesting, the way words
> differ...

the Americans use the word biscuits to describe things that are very like
scones.

ant

On 2004-05-22 13:17:45 +0100, "ant" > said:

>
> "Tony Walton" > wrote in message
> ...
>>> Heard on the radio this morning, that gas at a full-serve station in
>>> L.A. is $4/gallon.
>>
>> I wish! Working out the equivalent price from £ per litre to $ per US
>> gallon, we're paying upwards of US$5.30 in the UK at the moment.
>
> How many litres in a gallon?

3.7-odd. I was careful to specify that I'd converted to *US* gallons.

--
Tony

In article >,
"ant" > wrote:

> "hahabogus" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > I think you'll find shallots and scallions aren't the same. Scallions are
> a
> > white bulbous end with a green upper body...but way smaller than a leek.
> > And Shallots are small redish/purplish onion shaped balls wrapped in a tan
> > papery skin, just a little bigger than a pearl onion... about garlic
> > head/cluster sized. Perhaps using a google image search for them might
> > explain better.
>
> Yes, but in australia, shallots are spring onions...long straight things.
> Then it gets confusing though because sometimes spring onions are the ones
> with a distinct bulb. Sometimes they are scallions.

You buggers always have to be different. First the 20ml tablespoon, now
this.

Miche (in New Zealand)

--
If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud.
-- Arlo Guthrie, "Alice's Restaurant"

On Sat, 22 May 2004 21:25:25 +0000 (UTC), Tony Walton
> wrote:
>
> Not here (Up Over?)? Spring Onions (known as scallions in the US and
> Northern England, but not Standard English English)

I haven't ever called them scallions. My grandfather called
them spring onions, but they are just plain "green onions"
to me.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

Michael Odom wrote:
>
> On Sun, 23 May 2004 10:09:06 +1200, Miche >

> >Shallots are not the same things as spring onions/scallions.

> Some of the old timers in south Louisiana use the word shallot to
> refer to green onions.

So what do they call actual shallots, being as they are nothing like
scallions or green onions?

nancy

On Sun, 23 May 2004 10:09:06 +1200, Miche >
wrote:

>In article >,
> "ant" > wrote:
>
>> "Tony Walton" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 2004-05-14 22:37:51 +0100, "pavane" > said:
>> > >
>> > > The article begins a paragraph with "...when youngsters can't tell an
>> onion
>> > > from arugula..." Interestingly Microsoft's Spellchecker does not
>> recognize
>> > > the word "arugula."
>> >
>> > To be honest I'd never heard of aragula (though if presented with an
>> > onion and something that wasn't an onion I'd know which one was the
>> > onion <smile>). It turns out that it's what we in the UK call "rocket".
>>
>> yeah, we call it Rocket in Australia, too. but we learn other countries'
>> useage, so recipes aren't too hard. Zucchinis/courgettes, Shallots/spring
>> onions/scallions, Scones/biscuits, biscuits/cookies, coriander/cilantro and
>> the list goes on.
>
>Um, um...
>
>Shallots are not the same things as spring onions/scallions.
>
>Miche

Some of the old timers in south Louisiana use the word shallot to
refer to green onions. It's not as bad as the Hoosiers I know who
call bell peppers mangoes, I suppose.

modom

"Tony Walton" > wrote in message
...
> On 2004-05-22 21:11:19 +0100, (Dan Abel) said:
>
> > In article >, hahabogus
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> "ant" > wrote in
:
> >
> >>> How many litres in a gallon?
> >
> >> 4.6
> >
> >
> > I think you got it backwards. I get 3.7852 using google.
>
> Depends what sort of gallon. A US gallon is 3.785-ish litres, a UK
> (Imperial) gallon is 4.546-ish litres.
>
> It comes from the differing pints. A US pint is 16 fluid ounces (so a
> US pint of water weighs 1lb), a UK pint is 20 fluid ounces (so a UK
> gallon of water weighs 10lb). Yes, to be pedantic the fluid ounces also
> differ a little.

How do the ounces differ?
I remember having a real problem in school when they taught us:
8 oz = 1 cup
2 cups = 1 pint
2 pints = 1 quart
4 quarts = 1 gallon
But then they told us that our gallon in Canada was bigger than the gallon
in the US. I remember asking why that was but my teachers never explained.
It was only in the past few years that I learned that the British pint isn't
2 cups but 4 gills with a gill=5 ounces. Finally, the question my grade
school teachers had ignored was explained.

Gabby