"Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85. I'll always remember the
episode where he was charged with drinking a Klingon under the table while
his cohorts were off trying to avert some disaster or another. Ran out of
whisky so he grabbed a bottle of something off the shelf... the Klingon
said, "What is it?" Mr. Scott looked at it, shook his head and said, "Et's
green"

Rest in Peace, James Doohan.

Jill
--
I used to have a handle on life...but it broke off.

jmcquown wrote:
> "Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85. I'll always remember the
> episode where he was charged with drinking a Klingon under the table while
> his cohorts were off trying to avert some disaster or another. Ran out of
> whisky so he grabbed a bottle of something off the shelf... the Klingon
> said, "What is it?" Mr. Scott looked at it, shook his head and said, "Et's
> green"
>
> Rest in Peace, James Doohan.


I just turned off the television where I got the news. This is food
related. George Takei was remembering his old friend. He told the
story of how, in the mid 60s when no one in America had heard of sushi,
he invited Doohan out for some and explained that it was raw fish.
Doohan was eager to try and loved it. Many of Takei's memories were of
what a great eater and drinker Doohan was.


--Lia

On 2005-07-21, Julia Altshuler > wrote:

> he invited Doohan out for some and explained that it was raw fish.

Aaaargh!.... Sushi is *NOT* raw fish!! Krikes, I can't believe how
many people still belive this. I bet even Scotty is spinning in his
grave.

nb

On 2005-07-21, jmcquown > wrote:
> "Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85. I'll always remember the

So they finally beamed him up. Good on ya', Scotty.

nb

Julia Altshuler wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> "Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85. I'll always remember
>> the episode where he was charged with drinking a Klingon under the
>> table while his cohorts were off trying to avert some disaster or
>> another. Ran out of whisky so he grabbed a bottle of something off
>> the shelf... the Klingon said, "What is it?" Mr. Scott looked at
>> it, shook his head and said, "Et's green"
>>
>> Rest in Peace, James Doohan.
>
>
> I just turned off the television where I got the news. This is food
> related. George Takei was remembering his old friend. He told the
> story of how, in the mid 60s when no one in America had heard of
> sushi,
> he invited Doohan out for some and explained that it was raw fish.
> Doohan was eager to try and loved it. Many of Takei's memories were
> of
> what a great eater and drinker Doohan was.
>
>
> --Lia

I hate seeing William Shatner these days; he's a bloated, overblown die-hard
drinker if I ever saw one. But if anyone remembers Rod Serling's original
Twilight Zone (later episode re-created in a film with John Lithgow).
Shatner actually did a decent job with the creatures galavanting on the
wings of a plane during a storm. I also remember seeing him on the old
black & white Perry Mason series.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Julia Altshuler wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> "Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85. I'll always remember
>>> the episode where he was charged with drinking a Klingon under the
>>> table while his cohorts were off trying to avert some disaster or
>>> another. Ran out of whisky so he grabbed a bottle of something off
>>> the shelf... the Klingon said, "What is it?" Mr. Scott looked at
>>> it, shook his head and said, "Et's green"
>>>
>>> Rest in Peace, James Doohan.
>>
>>
>> I just turned off the television where I got the news. This is food
>> related. George Takei was remembering his old friend. He told the
>> story of how, in the mid 60s when no one in America had heard of
>> sushi,
>> he invited Doohan out for some and explained that it was raw fish.
>> Doohan was eager to try and loved it. Many of Takei's memories were
>> of
>> what a great eater and drinker Doohan was.
>>
>>
>> --Lia
>
> I hate seeing William Shatner these days; he's a bloated, overblown
> die-hard
> drinker if I ever saw one. But if anyone remembers Rod Serling's original
> Twilight Zone (later episode re-created in a film with John Lithgow).
> Shatner actually did a decent job with the creatures galavanting on the
> wings of a plane during a storm. I also remember seeing him on the old
> black & white Perry Mason series.

I keep trying to picture him doing Shakespeare, since he started off at the
Stratford Festival. Perhaps the stage was a better medium for him.

Doohan is quoted as saying he really liked Capt. Kirk but not William
Shatner whom he described as insecure and always only worried about himself.

Gabby

Jill wrote:

> "Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85. I'll always remember the
> episode where he was charged with drinking a Klingon under the table while
> his cohorts were off trying to avert some disaster or another. Ran out of
> whisky so he grabbed a bottle of something off the shelf... the Klingon
> said, "What is it?" Mr. Scott looked at it, shook his head and said, "Et's
> green"

LOL - if I'm not mistaken, that was an episode of The Next Generation,
the one where they found Scotty in an endless transporter loop.

Also in that episode, he's in Engineering with Geordie, trying to help
solve a problem...Picard asks for a time estimate, Geordie gives
it...Scotty asks how long it's *really* going to take. When Geordie,
perplexed, answers, "Just what I said.", Scotty screams, "Aaaagh! You
*never* tell the captain how long it will really take! How else will
he know how great you are?" (paraphrased).

Another favorite Scotty moment: when TOS goes back to save the whales
in the movie, and he picks up the computer mouse...and says, "Hello,
computer!" in a cajoling voice.

Lisa Ann

Gabby wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julia Altshuler wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> "Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85. I'll always remember
>>>> the episode where he was charged with drinking a Klingon under the
>>>> table while his cohorts were off trying to avert some disaster or
>>>> another. Ran out of whisky so he grabbed a bottle of something off
>>>> the shelf... the Klingon said, "What is it?" Mr. Scott looked at
>>>> it, shook his head and said, "Et's green"
>>>>
>>>> Rest in Peace, James Doohan.
>>>
>>>
>>> I just turned off the television where I got the news. This is food
>>> related. George Takei was remembering his old friend. He told the
>>> story of how, in the mid 60s when no one in America had heard of
>>> sushi,
>>> he invited Doohan out for some and explained that it was raw fish.
>>> Doohan was eager to try and loved it. Many of Takei's memories were
>>> of
>>> what a great eater and drinker Doohan was.
>>>
>>>
>>> --Lia
>>
>> I hate seeing William Shatner these days; he's a bloated, overblown
>> die-hard
>> drinker if I ever saw one. But if anyone remembers Rod Serling's
>> original Twilight Zone (later episode re-created in a film with John
>> Lithgow). Shatner actually did a decent job with the creatures
>> galavanting on the wings of a plane during a storm. I also remember
>> seeing him on the old black & white Perry Mason series.
>
> I keep trying to picture him doing Shakespeare, since he started off
> at the Stratford Festival. Perhaps the stage was a better medium for
> him.
>
> Doohan is quoted as saying he really liked Capt. Kirk but not William
> Shatner whom he described as insecure and always only worried about
> himself.
>
> Gabby

LOL! I can only imagine Shatner's overblown "acting" doing Shakespeare. I
can see him in that gold 'Captain's' shirt holding a skull and saying "Alas,
I knew him, Horatio!" Noooo!

Jill

Lisa Ann wrote:
> Jill wrote:
>
>> "Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85. I'll always remember
>> the episode where he was charged with drinking a Klingon under the
>> table while his cohorts were off trying to avert some disaster or
>> another. Ran out of whisky so he grabbed a bottle of something off
>> the shelf... the Klingon said, "What is it?" Mr. Scott looked at
>> it, shook his head and said, "Et's green"
>
> LOL - if I'm not mistaken, that was an episode of The Next Generation,
> the one where they found Scotty in an endless transporter loop.
>
Nope, that was the original show, IIRC second season, circa 1967. The Next
Generation hadn't been thought of yet. Geordie (Lavar Burton) was probably
a baby (Kunta Kinte in 'Roots' around 1976).

> Another favorite Scotty moment: when TOS goes back to save the whales
> in the movie, and he picks up the computer mouse...and says, "Hello,
> computer!" in a cajoling voice.
>
> Lisa Ann

*That* I remember... it was funny. He expected computers to be voice
activated. Well gee, aren't they?! And how can I order up my meal by
simply speaking? I desperately need a food replicator Speaking to the
microwave... "potato soup, please!" <G> Damn, this thing doesn't work!

Jill

Jill wrote:
>>Lisa Ann wrote:
>> LOL - if I'm not mistaken, that was an episode of The Next Generation,
>> the one where they found Scotty in an endless transporter loop.



>Nope, that was the original show, IIRC second season, circa 1967. The Next
>Generation hadn't been thought of yet. Geordie (Lavar Burton) was probably
>a baby (Kunta Kinte in 'Roots' around 1976).

Hmm....okay, now that I think about it...I'm remembering Scotty in
10-Forward, totally unused to the taste/lack\-of effects of
"synthehol", and Data pulls a bottle of something off the
shelf...Scotty asks what it is, Data looks at it bewildered, and
finally says, "It's green." An inside joke I just now got! LOL
(Turned out the green stuff was from Picard's special stash...)

Thanks for refreshing my memory...

Lisa Ann

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:31:38 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

> "Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85.

Oh my goodness! Scotty is dead? He was certainly a real character.

However, this is yet another thread about dead pseudo celebraties -
which I think is just plain dumb. I've noticed that we don't comment
when people of color who made a real contributions to the arts die,
but we go on and on about insignificant footnotes in history, like
"Scotty" (who was never known by any other name by me).

sf > wrote:

> I've noticed that we don't comment
> when people of color who made a real contributions to the arts die,
> but we go on and on about insignificant footnotes in history, like
> "Scotty" (who was never known by any other name by me).

When Ray Charles died, I cared. Hell, I cried. When James Doohan died,
I didn't. Still, if people remember a character from their childhood,
and that character made them feel something, why shouldn't that person's
passing make them comment? It's the circle of life.

serene

serene wrote:
> sf > wrote:
>
>> I've noticed that we don't comment
>> when people of color who made a real contributions to the arts die,
>> but we go on and on about insignificant footnotes in history, like
>> "Scotty" (who was never known by any other name by me).
>
> When Ray Charles died, I cared. Hell, I cried. When James Doohan
> died, I didn't. Still, if people remember a character from their
> childhood, and that character made them feel something, why shouldn't
> that person's passing make them comment? It's the circle of life.
>
> serene

Funny, I never thought about the colour of James' skin, but I'd have posted
anyway be he black, white, or purple. I liked the character he portrayed
and, like losing members of the Beatles, it's the end of an era.

OB Food: Roasted garlic cloves squeezed onto fresh toasted bread, lightly
drizzled with olive oil and lightly sprinkled with grated Parmesan. (Star
Trek Reference: where's a food replicator when you need one?!)

Jill

jmcquown wrote:

> "Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85. I'll always remember
> the
> episode where he was charged with drinking a Klingon under the table
> while
> his cohorts were off trying to avert some disaster or another. Ran
> out of
> whisky so he grabbed a bottle of something off the shelf... the
> Klingon
> said, "What is it?" Mr. Scott looked at it, shook his head and said,
> "Et's
> green"
>
> Rest in Peace, James Doohan.

Years ago there was a playboy cartoon that showed Mr. Spock and Capt.
Kirk in bed together and Kirk saying into his comunicator "beam me up
Scotty". Took me several years to figure that one out.
---
JL

jmcquown wrote:

> Lisa Ann wrote:
> > Jill wrote:
> >
> >> "Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85. I'll always remember
>
> >> the episode where he was charged with drinking a Klingon under the
> >> table while his cohorts were off trying to avert some disaster or
> >> another. Ran out of whisky so he grabbed a bottle of something off
>
> >> the shelf... the Klingon said, "What is it?" Mr. Scott looked at
> >> it, shook his head and said, "Et's green"
> >
> > LOL - if I'm not mistaken, that was an episode of The Next
> Generation,
> > the one where they found Scotty in an endless transporter loop.
> >
> Nope, that was the original show, IIRC second season, circa 1967. The
> Next
> Generation hadn't been thought of yet. Geordie (Lavar Burton) was
> probably
> a baby (Kunta Kinte in 'Roots' around 1976).

No, it was the next generation, Scotty had crashed into a 'dyson sphere'
on his way to a retirement planet and got into the tranporter for 75
years. One of the best of the next generation episodes. Though Dr. Mc
Coy on the first episode of TNG was a nice touch.---
JL

>
>
> > Another favorite Scotty moment: when TOS goes back to save the
> whales
> > in the movie, and he picks up the computer mouse...and says, "Hello,
>
> > computer!" in a cajoling voice.
> >
> > Lisa Ann
>
> *That* I remember... it was funny. He expected computers to be voice
> activated. Well gee, aren't they?! And how can I order up my meal by
>
> simply speaking? I desperately need a food replicator Speaking to
> the
> microwave... "potato soup, please!" <G> Damn, this thing doesn't
> work!
>
> Jill

sf wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:31:38 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > "Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85.
>
> Oh my goodness! Scotty is dead? He was certainly a real character.
>
> However, this is yet another thread about dead pseudo celebraties -
> which I think is just plain dumb. I've noticed that we don't comment
> when people of color who made a real contributions to the arts die,
> but we go on and on about insignificant footnotes in history, like
> "Scotty" (who was never known by any other name by me).

Johh Belushi and Ayn Rand died in the same week, guess who merited the
cover of time magazine dresssed as a bumble bee with a 6 page bio in the
mag and who got 2 inches on the back page.
---
Joseph Littleshoes

Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
> sf wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:31:38 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> "Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85.
>>
>> Oh my goodness! Scotty is dead? He was certainly a real character.
>>
>> However, this is yet another thread about dead pseudo celebraties -
>> which I think is just plain dumb. I've noticed that we don't comment
>> when people of color who made a real contributions to the arts die,
>> but we go on and on about insignificant footnotes in history, like
>> "Scotty" (who was never known by any other name by me).
>
> Johh Belushi and Ayn Rand died in the same week, guess who merited the
> cover of time magazine dresssed as a bumble bee with a 6 page bio in
> the mag and who got 2 inches on the back page.
> ---
> Joseph Littleshoes

Well, which person was more well known? I don't think it has a thing to do
with race, colour or creed. It has to do with who has the best publicity
agent. Belushi got more attention not because he was white but because he
died in a rather spectacular (cringe) manner at the age of 32. If he'd
lived to be 100 I doubt he'd have gotten all that publicity. But, he was
also very funny. Ayn Rand wasn't funny. Her books were rather depressing.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> "Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85. I'll always remember the
> episode where he was charged with drinking a Klingon under the table while
> his cohorts were off trying to avert some disaster or another. Ran out of
> whisky so he grabbed a bottle of something off the shelf... the Klingon
> said, "What is it?" Mr. Scott looked at it, shook his head and said,
"Et's
> green"
>
> Rest in Peace, James Doohan.
>
> Jill

*O*M*G*! I loved that guy! He was even the coolest character to ever appear
in TNG, FFS! What a shame...

;-(

Shaun aRe

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2005-07-21, Julia Altshuler > wrote:
>
> > he invited Doohan out for some and explained that it was raw fish.
>
> Aaaargh!.... Sushi is *NOT* raw fish!! Krikes, I can't believe how
> many people still belive this. I bet even Scotty is spinning in his
> grave.
>
> nb

Sashimi?




Shaun aRe

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Julia Altshuler wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >> "Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85. I'll always remember
> >> the episode where he was charged with drinking a Klingon under the
> >> table while his cohorts were off trying to avert some disaster or
> >> another. Ran out of whisky so he grabbed a bottle of something off
> >> the shelf... the Klingon said, "What is it?" Mr. Scott looked at
> >> it, shook his head and said, "Et's green"
> >>
> >> Rest in Peace, James Doohan.
> >
> >
> > I just turned off the television where I got the news. This is food
> > related. George Takei was remembering his old friend. He told the
> > story of how, in the mid 60s when no one in America had heard of
> > sushi,
> > he invited Doohan out for some and explained that it was raw fish.
> > Doohan was eager to try and loved it. Many of Takei's memories were
> > of
> > what a great eater and drinker Doohan was.
> >
> >
> > --Lia
>
> I hate seeing William Shatner these days; he's a bloated, overblown
die-hard
> drinker if I ever saw one. But if anyone remembers Rod Serling's original
> Twilight Zone (later episode re-created in a film with John Lithgow).
> Shatner actually did a decent job with the creatures galavanting on the
> wings of a plane during a storm. I also remember seeing him on the old
> black & white Perry Mason series.

I *love* seeing Shatner these days, to me his sense of humour has grown
faster than his gut has! He makes me LMFAO, heh...

He was great in Third Rock from the Sun IMO.


Shaun aRe

Groucho Marx and Elvis Presley died the same week in August of 1977.
Time Magazine did a huge spread on Elvis. Groucho got a slight mention.
Woody Allen, a huge admirer of Groucho and one vastly influenced by
his comedy, wrote to Time complaining of the disparity by saying that
surely Time didn't mean to suggest that Groucho's timing was off.


Mother Theresa and Lady Diana died within days of each other at the end
of August and beginning of September of 1997. The news media was filled
with reports of Lady Diana. Mother Theresa's passing was noted but with
nothing like the same fanfare. When the disparity was questioned,
someone in the media (long forgotten who) noted that Mother Theresa's
contributions were greater, but her passing was not a surprise. Her
affairs were in order; she was old and sick. Lady Diana's death was
spectacular and therefore more newsworthy.


--Lia


jmcquown wrote:

> Well, which person was more well known? I don't think it has a thing to do
> with race, colour or creed. It has to do with who has the best publicity
> agent. Belushi got more attention not because he was white but because he
> died in a rather spectacular (cringe) manner at the age of 32. If he'd
> lived to be 100 I doubt he'd have gotten all that publicity. But, he was
> also very funny. Ayn Rand wasn't funny. Her books were rather depressing.
>
> Jill
>
>

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:20:48 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:31:38 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> "Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85.
>
>Oh my goodness! Scotty is dead? He was certainly a real character.
>
>However, this is yet another thread about dead pseudo celebraties -
>which I think is just plain dumb. I've noticed that we don't comment
>when people of color who made a real contributions to the arts die,
>but we go on and on about insignificant footnotes in history, like
>"Scotty" (who was never known by any other name by me).
>
Guess you'll have to get Jessie "that ain't my Love child" Jackson and
Al "I aint never paid income taxes" Sharpton to setup a boycott of
something or other. Now that statement was made to highlight absurdity
by being absurb ,the absurdity was your infering that unless you are
"a person of color", (was James Duhan transparent), you're only a
pseudo this or that and make no real contributions. People that see
race in everything should seek professional help and as you want to
make a race thing out of it, that means you. Don't expect me to be PC
in this, but I feel you owe the good people in this newsgroup( even
Sheldon) an apology for infering that they are some kind of "closet
racist".

Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
> sf wrote:
>
>
>>On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:31:38 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85.
>>
>>Oh my goodness! Scotty is dead? He was certainly a real character.
>>
>>However, this is yet another thread about dead pseudo celebraties -
>>which I think is just plain dumb. I've noticed that we don't comment
>>when people of color who made a real contributions to the arts die,
>>but we go on and on about insignificant footnotes in history, like
>>"Scotty" (who was never known by any other name by me).
>
>
> Johh Belushi and Ayn Rand died in the same week, guess who merited the
> cover of time magazine dresssed as a bumble bee with a 6 page bio in the
> mag and who got 2 inches on the back page.
> ---
> Joseph Littleshoes
>

i thought ayn rand was from russia?


--

saerah

"It's not a gimmick, it's an incentive."- asterbark, afca

aware of the manifold possibilities of the future

"I think there's a clause in the Shaman's and Jujumen's Local #57 Union
contract that they have to have reciprocity for each other's shop rules."
-König Prüß

jmcquown wrote:
>
> "Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85. I'll always remember the
> episode where he was charged with drinking a Klingon under the table while
> his cohorts were off trying to avert some disaster or another. Ran out of
> whisky so he grabbed a bottle of something off the shelf... the Klingon
> said, "What is it?" Mr. Scott looked at it, shook his head and said, "Et's
> green"
>
> Rest in Peace, James Doohan.

I used to have a bumper sticker that read "Beam me up, Scotty".
(No, I'm not a "trekkie" - at least not the wacko kind who
eat, breathe, and sleep Star Trek, but I was a big fan.) I guess
I would be afraid to have that same bumper sticker now - who know
where I might get beamed to. ;-)

Kate

Kate Connally wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> "Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85. I'll always remember
>> the episode where he was charged with drinking a Klingon under the
>> table while his cohorts were off trying to avert some disaster or
>> another. Ran out of whisky so he grabbed a bottle of something off
>> the shelf... the Klingon said, "What is it?" Mr. Scott looked at
>> it, shook his head and said, "Et's green"
>>
>> Rest in Peace, James Doohan.
>
> I used to have a bumper sticker that read "Beam me up, Scotty".
> (No, I'm not a "trekkie" - at least not the wacko kind who
> eat, breathe, and sleep Star Trek, but I was a big fan.) I guess
> I would be afraid to have that same bumper sticker now - who know
> where I might get beamed to. ;-)
>
> Kate

But wouldn't it be handy if you could get beamed out of a traffic jam?

Jill

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:20:48 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:31:38 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> "Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85.
>
>Oh my goodness! Scotty is dead? He was certainly a real character.
>
>However, this is yet another thread about dead pseudo celebraties -
>which I think is just plain dumb. I've noticed that we don't comment
>when people of color who made a real contributions to the arts die,
>but we go on and on about insignificant footnotes in history, like
>"Scotty" (who was never known by any other name by me).
>
Look at all the publicity that Michael Jackson got/gets
and he's not even dead !

I'm reminded of a recent headline event;
When most people arrive at a store after hours,
they can accept that the store is closed.

When OPRAH arrives at a closed store, it's "Racism" ( weep weep )

<rj>

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:17:15 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

> I hate seeing William Shatner these days; he's a bloated, overblown die-hard
> drinker if I ever saw one. But if anyone remembers Rod Serling's original
> Twilight Zone (later episode re-created in a film with John Lithgow).
> Shatner actually did a decent job with the creatures galavanting on the
> wings of a plane during a storm. I also remember seeing him on the old
> black & white Perry Mason series.

Pick up his last album, "Has Been", and be *amazed* at how good it really
is. Seriously. Check out the reviews on Amazon.com if you think I'm
kidding: <http://shrinkster.com/6t2>.

I was reading a political blog and the author commented on how good the
first song was (a cover of "Common People") and made an mp3 available for
download. I thought he was just joking and downloaded the song to get in
on the laughs with everyone else. Three listens later and I was on Amazon
ordering the CD, hoping the rest of the tracks were that good. They are.

This is a CD you wouldn't be embarrassed to have in your collection.

--

-Jeff B.
zoomie at fastmail dot fm

Yeff wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:17:15 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I hate seeing William Shatner these days; he's a bloated, overblown
>> die-hard drinker if I ever saw one. But if anyone remembers Rod
>> Serling's original Twilight Zone (later episode re-created in a film
>> with John Lithgow). Shatner actually did a decent job with the
>> creatures galavanting on the wings of a plane during a storm. I
>> also remember seeing him on the old black & white Perry Mason series.
>
> Pick up his last album, "Has Been", and be *amazed* at how good it
> really
> is. Seriously. Check out the reviews on Amazon.com if you think I'm
> kidding: <http://shrinkster.com/6t2>.
>
> I was reading a political blog and the author commented on how good
> the
> first song was (a cover of "Common People") and made an mp3 available
> for download. I thought he was just joking and downloaded the song
> to get in
> on the laughs with everyone else. Three listens later and I was on
> Amazon ordering the CD, hoping the rest of the tracks were that good.
> They are.
>
> This is a CD you wouldn't be embarrassed to have in your collection.

You've got to be joking! I've heard him attempt to sing. I should be the
next American Idol if his voice has anything to say about talent! I'd
rather listen to the Jerry Goldsmith scores from the films, but thanks

Jill

<RJ> wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:20:48 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:31:38 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> "Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85.
>>
>> Oh my goodness! Scotty is dead? He was certainly a real character.
>>
>> However, this is yet another thread about dead pseudo celebraties -
>> which I think is just plain dumb. I've noticed that we don't comment
>> when people of color who made a real contributions to the arts die,
>> but we go on and on about insignificant footnotes in history, like
>> "Scotty" (who was never known by any other name by me).
>>
> Look at all the publicity that Michael Jackson got/gets
> and he's not even dead !
>
> I'm reminded of a recent headline event;
> When most people arrive at a store after hours,
> they can accept that the store is closed.
>
> When OPRAH arrives at a closed store, it's "Racism" ( weep weep )
>
> <rj>

I've told this story before but what the heck, I'll tell it again. Went to
lunch with a black co-worker. We went to Target because she needed a new
alarm clock. Ate at the lunch counter in the store. The black woman behind
the counter took Clarissa's order and then blatently ignored me. Clarissa
looked at me and then said to the woman, "Excuse me, aren't you going to
take my sister's order?" Go Clarissa! <G> Racism exists in many forms; you
don't have to be "people of color" to experience it. This is in *no way*
meant to demean or give credit to the horrific actions of some of our
ancestors with regards to slavery, etc. But hey, it's history; no matter
what you do you can't rewrite history.

OB Food: I'm going to make some cornbread using the renderings from the
extra fatty bacon I mistakenly bought. If it doesn't rain, I might even
bake it on the grill next to the chicken thighs I'm thawing. I use a Lodge
cast iron sectioned cornbread pan and it cooks up real nice on the grill.
Cooking outside doesn't heat up the house, either, but I'm not a die-hard
griller; I won't stand out in the rain to cook

Jill

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:53:47 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

> You've got to be joking! I've heard him attempt to sing. I should be the
> next American Idol if his voice has anything to say about talent! I'd
> rather listen to the Jerry Goldsmith scores from the films, but thanks

To be clear he doesn't sing, he talks (emotes?) with the music. Other
people on the album do the singing like Joe Jackson, Aimee Mann, Adrian
Belew and Brad Paisley.

Shatner does an Angry Rant(tm) with Henry Rollins called "I Can't Get
Behind That" that's hilarious! One of the lines is,

I can't get behind so-called singers that can't carry a tune,
get paid for talking, how easy is that?

Well, maybe I could get behind that.

-----

One of the tracks ("What Have You Done") isn't musical at all. Instead
it's an intensely personal poem describing his discovering his third wife's
body after her suicide:

My love was supposed to protect her
It didn't
My love was supposed to heal her
It didn't
You had said don't leave me
And I begged you not to leave me
We did.

-----

My favorite track on the entire CD is "That's Me Trying", another intensely
personal one describing him trying to reconcile with his estranged 40yo
daughter. The story he tells is of a man who realizes he was never a good
father but, in the end, does want to have a relationship with the person he
realizes he's hurt. Amiee Mann and Ben Fold's tie Shatner's pleading,
almost wheedling delivery together by plaintively singing the lyrics that
name the song:

Years of silence, not enough
Who could blame us giving up?
Above the quiet there's a buzz
That's me trying

-----

Again, read the reviews on the Amazon link I gave before if you think I'm
kidding. Better yet, listen to samples provided on the same link. This
isn't camp of his first album that everyone, including Shatner, makes fun
of. This is actually good music that includes tracks of Shatner showing
his ability to make fun of himself as well as the all-to-serious people who
make fun of him, prime example being the title track, "Has Been":

What are you afraid of?
Failure?
So am I
Has been implies failure
Not so
Has been is history
Has been was
Has been might again.

--

-Jeff B.
zoomie at fastmail dot fm

sf wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:31:38 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>
>> "Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85.
>
>
> Oh my goodness! Scotty is dead? He was certainly a real character.
>
> However, this is yet another thread about dead pseudo celebraties -
> which I think is just plain dumb. I've noticed that we don't comment
> when people of color who made a real contributions to the arts die,
> but we go on and on about insignificant footnotes in history, like
> "Scotty" (who was never known by any other name by me).
>
>

Pardon your ignorance, but it has been done and if you feel that you
need to mention anyone, then, please, chime in instead of bitching.


jim

Amen

Bob Myers wrote:
> "Joseph Littleshoes" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>>>LOL - if I'm not mistaken, that was an episode of The Next
>>>
>>>Generation,
>>>
>>>>the one where they found Scotty in an endless transporter loop.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Nope, that was the original show, IIRC second season, circa 1967. The
>>>Next
>>>Generation hadn't been thought of yet. Geordie (Lavar Burton) was
>>>probably
>>>a baby (Kunta Kinte in 'Roots' around 1976).
>>
>>No, it was the next generation, Scotty had crashed into a 'dyson sphere'
>>on his way to a retirement planet and got into the tranporter for 75
>>years. One of the best of the next generation episodes. Though Dr. Mc
>>Coy on the first episode of TNG was a nice touch.---
>
>
> Hold on, kids! You're BOTH right! It's a floor wax AND a dessert
> topping! (Bonus points for correctly IDing THAT one, too....)
>

isn't that from an old SNL bit? I'm thinking Gilda Radner...


> The original "It's green" did, in fact, come from the second season of
> the original series, as Scotty attempted to drink the Alien Menace of
> the Week under the table, as noted earlier. And when Scotty showed
> up in TNG, this was repeated (as an in-joke) with Data and Scotty
> in 10-Forward (Brent Spiner's delivery of the line "It is green" was
> perfect!).
>
> Obligatory cooking item: Anyone have a good recipe for tribble
> stew? The pantry's getting a bit crowded...
>
>
> Bob M.
>
>


--

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"Joseph Littleshoes" > wrote in message
...
> > > LOL - if I'm not mistaken, that was an episode of The Next
> > Generation,
> > > the one where they found Scotty in an endless transporter loop.
> > >
> > Nope, that was the original show, IIRC second season, circa 1967. The
> > Next
> > Generation hadn't been thought of yet. Geordie (Lavar Burton) was
> > probably
> > a baby (Kunta Kinte in 'Roots' around 1976).
>
> No, it was the next generation, Scotty had crashed into a 'dyson sphere'
> on his way to a retirement planet and got into the tranporter for 75
> years. One of the best of the next generation episodes. Though Dr. Mc
> Coy on the first episode of TNG was a nice touch.---

Hold on, kids! You're BOTH right! It's a floor wax AND a dessert
topping! (Bonus points for correctly IDing THAT one, too....)

The original "It's green" did, in fact, come from the second season of
the original series, as Scotty attempted to drink the Alien Menace of
the Week under the table, as noted earlier. And when Scotty showed
up in TNG, this was repeated (as an in-joke) with Data and Scotty
in 10-Forward (Brent Spiner's delivery of the line "It is green" was
perfect!).

Obligatory cooking item: Anyone have a good recipe for tribble
stew? The pantry's getting a bit crowded...


Bob M.

"Joseph Littleshoes" > wrote in message
...
> Johh Belushi and Ayn Rand died in the same week, guess who merited the
> cover of time magazine dresssed as a bumble bee with a 6 page bio in the
> mag and who got 2 inches on the back page.

Yes, and where they found that photo of Ayn Rand in a bumblebee
costume, I'll never know...

Bob M.

"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:31:38 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > "Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85.
>
> Oh my goodness! Scotty is dead? He was certainly a real character.
>
> However, this is yet another thread about dead pseudo celebraties -
> which I think is just plain dumb. I've noticed that we don't comment
> when people of color who made a real contributions to the arts die,
> but we go on and on about insignificant footnotes in history, like
> "Scotty" (who was never known by any other name by me).

So who's stopping you from posting a note when people YOU think
have made "real contributions" die? And why the qualifier "people of
color"? I don't care if someone is white, black, brown, purple, or
paisley-print; if they touched my life in some way, I for one will take a
moment out and think about what they meant to me, and note their
passing with respect.

If we need to note a passing more food-related, for this group,
note that Gerry Thomas, inventor of the "TV dinner," died Monday
at the age of 83:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/21/bu.../21thomas.html

Bob M.

"Gabby" > wrote in message
...
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julia Altshuler wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> "Mr. Scott" of Star Trek fame died at age 85. I'll always remember
>>>> the episode where he was charged with drinking a Klingon under the
>>>> table while his cohorts were off trying to avert some disaster or
>>>> another. Ran out of whisky so he grabbed a bottle of something off
>>>> the shelf... the Klingon said, "What is it?" Mr. Scott looked at
>>>> it, shook his head and said, "Et's green"
>>>>
>>>> Rest in Peace, James Doohan.
>>>
>>>
>>> I just turned off the television where I got the news. This is food
>>> related. George Takei was remembering his old friend. He told the
>>> story of how, in the mid 60s when no one in America had heard of
>>> sushi,
>>> he invited Doohan out for some and explained that it was raw fish.
>>> Doohan was eager to try and loved it. Many of Takei's memories were
>>> of
>>> what a great eater and drinker Doohan was.
>>>
>>>
>>> --Lia
>>
>> I hate seeing William Shatner these days; he's a bloated, overblown
>> die-hard
>> drinker if I ever saw one. But if anyone remembers Rod Serling's
>> original
>> Twilight Zone (later episode re-created in a film with John Lithgow).
>> Shatner actually did a decent job with the creatures galavanting on the
>> wings of a plane during a storm. I also remember seeing him on the old
>> black & white Perry Mason series.
>
> I keep trying to picture him doing Shakespeare, since he started off at
> the Stratford Festival. Perhaps the stage was a better medium for him.
>
> Doohan is quoted as saying he really liked Capt. Kirk but not William
> Shatner whom he described as insecure and always only worried about
> himself.
>
> Gabby
>

It has always been amazing that of all the original cast, Shatner is the one
with the biggest ego and the least talent.
Doohan was a decent man, as was Kelly. Shatner however....

Lisa Ann wrote:

> Jill wrote:
>>>Lisa Ann wrote:
>>> LOL - if I'm not mistaken, that was an episode of The Next Generation,
>>> the one where they found Scotty in an endless transporter loop.
>
>
>
>>Nope, that was the original show, IIRC second season, circa 1967. The
>>Next
>>Generation hadn't been thought of yet. Geordie (Lavar Burton) was
>>probably a baby (Kunta Kinte in 'Roots' around 1976).
>
> Hmm....okay, now that I think about it...I'm remembering Scotty in
> 10-Forward, totally unused to the taste/lack\-of effects of
> "synthehol", and Data pulls a bottle of something off the
> shelf...Scotty asks what it is, Data looks at it bewildered, and
> finally says, "It's green." An inside joke I just now got! LOL
> (Turned out the green stuff was from Picard's special stash...)
>
> Thanks for refreshing my memory...
>
> Lisa Ann

Actually, you were right the first time. It was in the original episode "By
Any Other Name". The line was reused later in the Next Generation episode.

---jkb

--
"The kitchen staff is complaining of rats in the kitchen.
I'd like to hire a new staff."
-- Lunchlady Doris

Bob Myers wrote:

[snippage]
> Hold on, kids! You're BOTH right! It's a floor wax AND a dessert
> topping! (Bonus points for correctly IDing THAT one, too....)
>

"Shimmer", from Saturday Night Live...

---jkb

--
"Moose burger or caribou dog?"
-- Ed Chigliak

"Jeff Bienstadt" > wrote in message
...
> Bob Myers wrote:
>
> [snippage]
> > Hold on, kids! You're BOTH right! It's a floor wax AND a dessert
> > topping! (Bonus points for correctly IDing THAT one, too....)
> >
>
> "Shimmer", from Saturday Night Live...

We have a winner! Your prize, of course, is one slightly
used Bass-O-Matic...

Bob M.