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Dog3 wrote:
> I wonder who gets to eat all the tomatoes that are not tossed? Wish I was
> there with some salt and pepper.
>
> Michael
>
>
> Calif. Town Pulls Plug on Tomato Toss 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
>
> FAIRFIELD, Calif. - The first Great Tomato Toss has gone to seed. Appliance
> manufacturer Maytag pulled its support for the Aug. 13 event, which was to
> feature hundreds of Fairfield residents hurling tomatoes at each other.
> Maytag planned to film the event to advertise a new washing machine.
>
> Organizers had hoped the 15-minute event would juice up the annual Tomato
> Festival in this town about an hour south of Sacramento. The festival will
> go on, but probably without any tossed fruit.



The whole concept is disgusting--people throwing healthy food around
while others may be starving.

gloria p
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In article >,
Puester > wrote:

> The whole concept is disgusting--people throwing healthy food around
> while others may be starving.


I agree. It's one thing to spill food on yourself, another thing to
throw it at people, with no intention of eating it at all. People make
a lot of talk about feeding the poor, but all the food used for these
kinds of "entertainment" could be given to the poor quite easily.

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On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 15:46:39 GMT, Puester >
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>Dog3 wrote:
>> I wonder who gets to eat all the tomatoes that are not tossed? Wish I was
>> there with some salt and pepper.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> Calif. Town Pulls Plug on Tomato Toss 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
>>
>> FAIRFIELD, Calif. - The first Great Tomato Toss has gone to seed. Appliance
>> manufacturer Maytag pulled its support for the Aug. 13 event, which was to
>> feature hundreds of Fairfield residents hurling tomatoes at each other.
>> Maytag planned to film the event to advertise a new washing machine.
>>
>> Organizers had hoped the 15-minute event would juice up the annual Tomato
>> Festival in this town about an hour south of Sacramento. The festival will
>> go on, but probably without any tossed fruit.

>
>
>The whole concept is disgusting--people throwing healthy food around
>while others may be starving.
>
>gloria p



I disagree. This is no different from spending an amount of money on
any other silly stunt, that is used in turn to benefit the locals by
gathering crowds to an event.

I am all in favor of charitable works, but I see no problem with this.

I work in an for a company that often has unused, sealed and
shelf-stable foodstuffs that we offer to food-oriented charities. It
is not easy to give it away. I'd be hard pressed to get rid of a
truckload of overripe tomatoes that would splat decently at a tomato
throw.

Boron
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On 2005-07-29, Ranee Mueller > wrote:

> kinds of "entertainment" could be given to the poor quite easily.


Let 'em eat dirty laundry!

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On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:01:47 -0700, Ranee Mueller
> wrote:

>In article >,
> Puester > wrote:
>
>> The whole concept is disgusting--people throwing healthy food around
>> while others may be starving.

>
> I agree. It's one thing to spill food on yourself, another thing to
>throw it at people, with no intention of eating it at all. People make
>a lot of talk about feeding the poor, but all the food used for these
>kinds of "entertainment" could be given to the poor quite easily.
>



Stuff and nonsense.

Let's stop all the pie and hot dog eating contests, too, while you're
at it. And end state fair submissions, and close all the other
entertainment venues, too. Why make movies that cost so much or allow
people to subscribe to satellite TV or radio when all that money could
feed the poor.

There is no reason why anyone should have go to bed hungry in this
wealthy country of ours. You want money to feed the poor? Start
bitching about Iraq, not some overripe tomatoes.

Boron


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Puester wrote:
>
> The whole concept is disgusting--people throwing healthy food around
> while others may be starving.
>

It would be disgusting if in fact the alternative to the tomato tossing
event were to provide those tomatoes to the needy. That is not the
case. The developed world can produce plenty of food for the entire
world. What it lacks is the desire to build a distribution system.
The political will for it isn't there because the people of the
developed world have not shown any strong desire to share their wealth.
That's what is disgusting, not a tomato festival. -aem

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Dog3 wrote:

> Maytag declined to say why the event was called off.


Probably declined to say on the advice of their lawyers,
who probably were the ones who called it off in the first place.

"What if someone gets hit in the eye, and sues us?"

Ever wonder what happened to all those neat little toys
in the Cracker Jack boxes? Now, all we get are stickers.



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Mark Thorazine wrote:
>
> Ever wonder what happened to all those neat little toys
> in the Cracker Jack boxes? Now, all we get are stickers.


Many years ago those "toys" were deemed choking hazards.

Sheldon

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"aem" > wrote in message
ps.com...
> Puester wrote:
> >
> > The whole concept is disgusting--people throwing healthy food around
> > while others may be starving.
> >

> It would be disgusting if in fact the alternative to the tomato tossing
> event were to provide those tomatoes to the needy. That is not the
> case. The developed world can produce plenty of food for the entire
> world. What it lacks is the desire to build a distribution system.
> The political will for it isn't there because the people of the
> developed world have not shown any strong desire to share their wealth.
> That's what is disgusting, not a tomato festival. -aem


oh silly.

there is hardly a "starving" country in the world such that, if the
"developed world" were to bring enough truckloads or shiploads or planeloads
of food to its very capital city to feed everybody in the land to bursting,
it wouldn't still starve almost as much as before.

unless "the people of the developed world" came and conquered it (which
seems to be a rather unpopular thing to do, viz iraq), the high mucky mucks
would continue to hog and waste, and the peasants would keep starving.

this is not something the "developed world" can do squat about unless you
want a worldful of iraqs.


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Boron Elgar wrote:


> I work in an for a company that often has unused, sealed and
> shelf-stable foodstuffs that we offer to food-oriented charities. It
> is not easy to give it away.


Really? That's a shame.

We have a soup-kitchen here to whom we quite often donate a LOT of
"leftover" foodstuffs. Fex, at the end of the school year, we
generally have a school-wide cookout, and inevitably we end up with too
many bags of chips, cookies, hot dog buns, and (quite often) hot dogs.
At the end of the day two or three teachers load up their cars with all
the leftovers and head over to Bean's. I've never known them to turn
down *any* food donation. According to their website,
(http://www.beans.ak.org/) over 50% of their food products come from
individual donations (with most of the remainder coming from USDA
surplus items). Additionally, shelf-stable, unused, sealed items are
almost always welcome at our local foodbank or at any number of
shelters and transitional housing organizations.

It's a crying shame that you should ever have trouble donating
foodstuff.

Alexis



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On 29 Jul 2005 17:53:08 -0700, "Alexis" >
wrote:

>
>Boron Elgar wrote:
>
>
>> I work in an for a company that often has unused, sealed and
>> shelf-stable foodstuffs that we offer to food-oriented charities. It
>> is not easy to give it away.

>
>Really? That's a shame.
>
>We have a soup-kitchen here to whom we quite often donate a LOT of
>"leftover" foodstuffs. Fex, at the end of the school year, we
>generally have a school-wide cookout, and inevitably we end up with too
>many bags of chips, cookies, hot dog buns, and (quite often) hot dogs.
>At the end of the day two or three teachers load up their cars with all
>the leftovers and head over to Bean's. I've never known them to turn
>down *any* food donation. According to their website,
>(http://www.beans.ak.org/) over 50% of their food products come from
>individual donations (with most of the remainder coming from USDA
>surplus items). Additionally, shelf-stable, unused, sealed items are
>almost always welcome at our local foodbank or at any number of
>shelters and transitional housing organizations.
>
>It's a crying shame that you should ever have trouble donating
>foodstuff.
>
>Alexis



Oh, I agree. We had a 50 cases of baby food once. It was sealed, in
packing boxes and we had a helluva time. Then there was about 100 lbs
of dried and sealed pasta in 1lb pkgs and a few cases of jarred pasta
sauce. I could go on....

Granted, this was Manhattan and the goods had to be picked up, we
could not deliver them, but because we were not food distributors or
suppliers, we had to jump through hoops to be allowed to donate.

Boron
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Boron Elgar wrote:
> On 29 Jul 2005 17:53:08 -0700, "Alexis" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Boron Elgar wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I work in an for a company that often has unused, sealed and
> >> shelf-stable foodstuffs that we offer to food-oriented charities. It
> >> is not easy to give it away.

> >
> >Really? That's a shame.
> >
> >We have a soup-kitchen here to whom we quite often donate a LOT of
> >"leftover" foodstuffs. Fex, at the end of the school year, we
> >generally have a school-wide cookout, and inevitably we end up with too
> >many bags of chips, cookies, hot dog buns, and (quite often) hot dogs.
> >At the end of the day two or three teachers load up their cars with all
> >the leftovers and head over to Bean's. I've never known them to turn
> >down *any* food donation. According to their website,
> >(http://www.beans.ak.org/) over 50% of their food products come from
> >individual donations (with most of the remainder coming from USDA
> >surplus items). Additionally, shelf-stable, unused, sealed items are
> >almost always welcome at our local foodbank or at any number of
> >shelters and transitional housing organizations.
> >
> >It's a crying shame that you should ever have trouble donating
> >foodstuff.
> >
> >Alexis

>
>
> Oh, I agree. We had a 50 cases of baby food once. It was sealed, in
> packing boxes and we had a helluva time. Then there was about 100 lbs
> of dried and sealed pasta in 1lb pkgs and a few cases of jarred pasta
> sauce. I could go on....
>
> Granted, this was Manhattan and the goods had to be picked up, we
> could not deliver them, but because we were not food distributors or
> suppliers, we had to jump through hoops to be allowed to donate.


If you're really interested in donating (for whatever reason -- tax
write off, 'gotta get rid of this stuff because it's taking up space',
benevolence, or any combination thereof <g> -- and you find people
balking because of the issue of "liability" you can pass on to them
information about the 1996 Bill Emerson Good Samaritan Act. (Quoting
from http://www.secondharvest.org/site_content.asp?s=365)

On October 1, 1996, then-President Clinton signed this act to
encourage donation of food and
grocery products to non-profit organizations for distribution to
needy individuals. This law:

Protects you from liability when you donate to a non-profit
organization

Protects you from civil and criminal liability should the product
donated in good faith
later cause harm to the needy recipient.

Standardizes donor liability exposure. You or your legal counsel
no longer have to investigate
liability laws in 50 states.

Sets a floor of "gross negligence" or intentional misconduct for
persons who donate grocery
products. According to the new law, gross negligence is defined as
"voluntary and conscious
conduct by a person with knowledge (at the time of conduct) that
the conducts is likely to be
harmful to the health or well-being of another person."

(the full text of the bill is, I believe, at the same URL mentioned
above).

Additionally, America's Second Harvest (one of their local affiliate
organizations) will arrange to pick up your surplus foodstuffs, so you
no longer have to be limited by the "we can't deliver it to the
charity" problem (as I understand it, they work in all 50 states and
their website states that they will pick up from "any location in the
U.S." and provide you with a detailed receipt for tax purposes). Here
is the contact information:

(from http://www.secondharvest.org/site_content.asp?s=102)

When you have distressed or surplus product in any amount, we invite
you to contact Diane Letson at America's Second Harvest:
Phone: 800/771-2303 x145
Fax: 312/263-4357
Email: .


When you have distressed, surplus, or first-line fresh produce to
donate in any amount, we invite you to contact Rick Bella, National
Produce Manager, at America's Second Harvest:
Phone: 800/771-2303 x180
Fax: 312/263-4357
Email:


Alexis.

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On 29 Jul 2005 19:22:11 -0700, "Alexis" >
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>
>Additionally, America's Second Harvest (one of their local affiliate
>organizations) will arrange to pick up your surplus foodstuffs, so you
>no longer have to be limited by the "we can't deliver it to the
>charity" problem (as I understand it, they work in all 50 states and
>their website states that they will pick up from "any location in the
>U.S." and provide you with a detailed receipt for tax purposes). Here
>is the contact information:
>
>(from http://www.secondharvest.org/site_content.asp?s=102)
>
>When you have distressed or surplus product in any amount, we invite
>you to contact Diane Letson at America's Second Harvest:
>Phone: 800/771-2303 x145
>Fax: 312/263-4357
>Email: .
>
>
>When you have distressed, surplus, or first-line fresh produce to
>donate in any amount, we invite you to contact Rick Bella, National
>Produce Manager, at America's Second Harvest:
>Phone: 800/771-2303 x180
>Fax: 312/263-4357
>Email:

>
>Alexis.



Guess who we called?

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Boron Elgar wrote:

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> Guess who we called?
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> boron


Bet it make you somewhat less sympathetic when your local food bank and
soup kitchens complain about shortages, doesn't it? Damn shame. At
least here I know that they're not standing in the way of attempted
donations. Fortunately, at Bean's and Brother Francis they've always
welcomed any and all of my donations with open arms, no questions asked
(and I'm most definitely not in the food distribution business).

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"Ranee Mueller" > wrote in message
> I agree. It's one thing to spill food on yourself, another thing to
> throw it at people, with no intention of eating it at all. People make
> a lot of talk about feeding the poor, but all the food used for these
> kinds of "entertainment" could be given to the poor quite easily.
>
> Regards,
> Ranee


Better to let them rot on the vine or end up on a compost pile.

Sad fact is, people are starving but not because of tomato tossing contests.
Mostly dumb regulations, bureaucrats, corrupt governments, etc. A couple of
food banks in this are turned away fresh produce at the peak of harvest
because they could not handle it. So why not have fun with it.




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you can see they throw Maytag Refridegrators instead.

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