That was just to get your attention.
I bought okra at the market on Saturday morning (with Rona and her mom).
It's nice. I sliced it and fried it some in some canola, then added
corn cut from two cobs. Added a can of stewed tomatoes with Italian
herbs, chopped. Cooked it. It got a way from me and all the liquid
cooked out of it. It didn't burn. (There is a God!)
Question: Can this be made into a tasty and delicious soup? With what
else? Did I mention that the tomato mess made it quite sweet tasting?
I didn't.
Gimme some ideas, m'friends. Beef or chicken broth? Anything hot? I
don't much want to involve any meat or fish in it, and I don't
particularly want to turn this into some big deal vegetable soup,
either. I think I'm answering my own curiosity here. I'm thinking beef
AND chicken broth and some hot sauce. Chopped parsley on top?
Cilantro? (I've got both.)
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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> That was just to get your attention.
> I bought okra at the market on Saturday morning (with Rona and her
> mom). It's nice. I sliced it and fried it some in some canola, then
> added corn cut from two cobs. Added a can of stewed tomatoes with
> Italian herbs, chopped. Cooked it. It got a way from me and all the
> liquid cooked out of it. It didn't burn. (There is a God!)
> Question: Can this be made into a tasty and delicious soup? With
> what else? Did I mention that the tomato mess made it quite sweet
> tasting? I didn't.
> Gimme some ideas, m'friends. Beef or chicken broth? Anything hot? I
> don't much want to involve any meat or fish in it, and I don't
> particularly want to turn this into some big deal vegetable soup,
> either. I think I'm answering my own curiosity here. I'm thinking
> beef AND chicken broth and some hot sauce. Chopped parsley on top?
> Cilantro? (I've got both.)

Gumbo. Always think Gumbo when you have okra Corn, sure! Tomatoes?
Absolutely! Chicken and/or sausage... if you want. Okay, you can make a
vegetable Gumbo. Beef or chicken broth, either one. Make a dark roux to
thicken the soup. Onion, garlic. The holy trinity of peppers (white, black,
cayenne) to taste. Hot sauce is sort of a given but I prefer to add it at
the table. Fresh parsley or cilantro (I can't stand cilantro, but whatever)
stirred in. Oregano. I don't suppose you can find file powder (ground
sassafrass leaves) but if you do, add it at the very end when taken off the
heat. You might want to add some barley to thicken this, pre file, too.
Make a nice big pot

Jill

In article >, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> > That was just to get your attention. I bought okra at the market on
> > Saturday morning (with Rona and her mom). It's nice. I sliced it
> > and fried it some in some canola, then added corn cut from two
> > cobs. Added a can of stewed tomatoes with Italian herbs, chopped.
> > Cooked it. It got a way from me and all the liquid cooked out of
> > it. It didn't burn. (There is a God!) Question: Can this be made
> > into a tasty and delicious soup? With what else? Did I mention
> > that the tomato mess made it quite sweet tasting? I didn't. Gimme
> > some ideas, m'friends. Beef or chicken broth? Anything hot? I
> > don't much want to involve any meat or fish in it, and I don't
> > particularly want to turn this into some big deal vegetable soup,
> > either. I think I'm answering my own curiosity here. I'm thinking
> > beef AND chicken broth and some hot sauce. Chopped parsley on top?
> > Cilantro? (I've got both.)
>
> Gumbo. Always think Gumbo when you have okra Corn, sure!
> Tomatoes? Absolutely! Chicken and/or sausage... if you want. Okay,
> you can make a vegetable Gumbo. Beef or chicken broth, either one.
> Make a dark roux to thicken the soup. Onion, garlic. The holy
> trinity of peppers (white, black, cayenne) to taste. Hot sauce is
> sort of a given but I prefer to add it at the table. Fresh parsley
> or cilantro (I can't stand cilantro, but whatever) stirred in.
> Oregano. I don't suppose you can find file powder (ground sassafrass
> leaves) but if you do, add it at the very end when taken off the
> heat. You might want to add some barley to thicken this, pre file,
> too. Make a nice big pot

>
> Jill

I forgot to say I don't want gumbo. I think I'm just looking for ideas
or encouragement for broth and seasonings. I want thin. Come to think
of it, though, I bought some sausage at the farmers market -- a
breakfast sausage that's not too salty and is quite good. Some of that
might be a nice addition. But I don't want glop.
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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> That was just to get your attention.
> I bought okra at the market on Saturday morning (with Rona and her mom).
> It's nice. I sliced it and fried it some in some canola, then added
> corn cut from two cobs. Added a can of stewed tomatoes with Italian
> herbs, chopped. Cooked it. It got a way from me and all the liquid
> cooked out of it. It didn't burn. (There is a God!)
> Question: Can this be made into a tasty and delicious soup? With what
> else? Did I mention that the tomato mess made it quite sweet tasting?
> I didn't.
> Gimme some ideas, m'friends. Beef or chicken broth? Anything hot? I
> don't much want to involve any meat or fish in it, and I don't
> particularly want to turn this into some big deal vegetable soup,
> either. I think I'm answering my own curiosity here. I'm thinking beef
> AND chicken broth and some hot sauce. Chopped parsley on top?
> Cilantro? (I've got both.)


Fry about 2 slice of bacon. Eat one of them and crumble the other back
into the grease. Saute' the sliced okra and a little chopped onion in
the bacon grease. Add a can of stewed tomatoes and cook until it's
done. Maybe a little basil, but don't overdo it -- and don't add garlic
unless you just really like garlic.

It's called "Okra and Tomatoes", and it's eaten as a light main dish or
a hearty side dish. Some people like to add broken saltine crackers, or
so I've read. I never liked it much when my mom cooked it when I was a
kid, but I've developed a taste for it now that I've almost gotten old.

Bob

On Mon 15 Aug 2005 07:35:19p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> That was just to get your attention.
> I bought okra at the market on Saturday morning (with Rona and her mom).
> It's nice. I sliced it and fried it some in some canola, then added
> corn cut from two cobs. Added a can of stewed tomatoes with Italian
> herbs, chopped. Cooked it. It got a way from me and all the liquid
> cooked out of it. It didn't burn. (There is a God!)
> Question: Can this be made into a tasty and delicious soup? With what
> else? Did I mention that the tomato mess made it quite sweet tasting?
> I didn't.
> Gimme some ideas, m'friends. Beef or chicken broth? Anything hot? I
> don't much want to involve any meat or fish in it, and I don't
> particularly want to turn this into some big deal vegetable soup,
> either. I think I'm answering my own curiosity here. I'm thinking beef
> AND chicken broth and some hot sauce. Chopped parsley on top?
> Cilantro? (I've got both.)

A simple corn and okra soup is very popular with country folk in the South,
and you were very close to it. Do the corn and okra part just as you did,
but add some onion into the mix. Skip all forms of stewed and/or seasoned
tomatoes. Use whole canned tomatoes and break them up (removing the core)
into small pieces, along with the juice. The additional liquid is where
folks differ, as many just use water to make the soup consistency. Chicken
broth is good, as is vegetable broth. Season with salt and a fair amount
of black pepper. Marjoram and savory are nice herbs, but go very lightly.
When all is cooked, thicken very lightly with a slurry of cornstarch and
water or broth. Serve with piping hot cornbread. Can't tell you how many
bowls of this I've eaten at my grandmother's and mother's tables.

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On Mon 15 Aug 2005 07:35:19p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> That was just to get your attention.
> I bought okra at the market on Saturday morning (with Rona and her mom).
> It's nice. I sliced it and fried it some in some canola, then added
> corn cut from two cobs. Added a can of stewed tomatoes with Italian
> herbs, chopped. Cooked it. It got a way from me and all the liquid
> cooked out of it. It didn't burn. (There is a God!)
> Question: Can this be made into a tasty and delicious soup? With what
> else? Did I mention that the tomato mess made it quite sweet tasting?
> I didn't.
> Gimme some ideas, m'friends. Beef or chicken broth? Anything hot? I
> don't much want to involve any meat or fish in it, and I don't
> particularly want to turn this into some big deal vegetable soup,
> either. I think I'm answering my own curiosity here. I'm thinking beef
> AND chicken broth and some hot sauce. Chopped parsley on top?
> Cilantro? (I've got both.)

I reread your post, and I'd have to say skip the beef broth. Maybe a dash
of hot sauce. If you want the "real thing", I wouldn't use cilantro. I
guess parsley if you want.

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Melba's Jammin' wrote on 15 Aug 2005 in rec.food.cooking

> That was just to get your attention.
> I bought okra at the market on Saturday morning (with Rona and her
> mom). It's nice. I sliced it and fried it some in some canola,
> then added corn cut from two cobs. Added a can of stewed tomatoes
> with Italian herbs, chopped. Cooked it. It got a way from me and
> all the liquid cooked out of it. It didn't burn. (There is a God!)
> Question: Can this be made into a tasty and delicious soup? With
> what else? Did I mention that the tomato mess made it quite sweet
> tasting? I didn't.
> Gimme some ideas, m'friends. Beef or chicken broth? Anything hot?
> I don't much want to involve any meat or fish in it, and I don't
> particularly want to turn this into some big deal vegetable soup,
> either. I think I'm answering my own curiosity here. I'm thinking
> beef AND chicken broth and some hot sauce. Chopped parsley on top?
> Cilantro? (I've got both.)

A little chicken broth and some roasted red peppers...Cilantro would be
flavour overkill...Parsely would be good. But you didn't mention
any garlic or shallots...

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On Mon 15 Aug 2005 09:09:30p, Mr Libido Incognito wrote in
rec.food.cooking:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote on 15 Aug 2005 in rec.food.cooking
>
>> That was just to get your attention.
>> I bought okra at the market on Saturday morning (with Rona and her
>> mom). It's nice. I sliced it and fried it some in some canola, then
>> added corn cut from two cobs. Added a can of stewed tomatoes with
>> Italian herbs, chopped. Cooked it. It got a way from me and all the
>> liquid cooked out of it. It didn't burn. (There is a God!) Question:
>> Can this be made into a tasty and delicious soup? With what else?
>> Did I mention that the tomato mess made it quite sweet tasting? I
>> didn't. Gimme some ideas, m'friends. Beef or chicken broth?
>> Anything hot? I don't much want to involve any meat or fish in it, and
>> I don't particularly want to turn this into some big deal vegetable
>> soup, either. I think I'm answering my own curiosity here. I'm
>> thinking beef AND chicken broth and some hot sauce. Chopped parsley
>> on top? Cilantro? (I've got both.)
>
> A little chicken broth and some roasted red peppers...Cilantro would be
> flavour overkill...Parsely would be good. But you didn't mention
> any garlic or shallots...
>

IMHO, garlic does not belong in this soup.


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Wayne Boatwright wrote on 15 Aug 2005 in rec.food.cooking

> > A little chicken broth and some roasted red peppers...Cilantro
> > would be flavour overkill...Parsely would be good. But you didn't
> > mention any garlic or shallots...
> >
>
> IMHO, garlic does not belong in this soup.
>

Soup just isn't soup without some garlic and/or a shallot or 3.

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In article >, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

> On Mon 15 Aug 2005 07:35:19p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > That was just to get your attention. I bought okra at the market on
> > Saturday morning (with Rona and her mom). It's nice. I sliced it
> > and fried it some in some canola, then added corn cut from two
> > cobs. Added a can of stewed tomatoes with Italian herbs, chopped.
> > Cooked it. It got a way from me and all the liquid cooked out of
> > it. It didn't burn. (There is a God!) Question: Can this be made
> > into a tasty and delicious soup? With what else? Did I mention
> > that the tomato mess made it quite sweet tasting? I didn't. Gimme
> > some ideas, m'friends. Beef or chicken broth? Anything hot? I
> > don't much want to involve any meat or fish in it, and I don't
> > particularly want to turn this into some big deal vegetable soup,
> > either. I think I'm answering my own curiosity here. I'm thinking
> > beef AND chicken broth and some hot sauce. Chopped parsley on top?
> > Cilantro? (I've got both.)

>
> I reread your post, and I'd have to say skip the beef broth. Maybe a
> dash of hot sauce. If you want the "real thing", I wouldn't use
> cilantro.

Real what?
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In article >, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

> On Mon 15 Aug 2005 07:35:19p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in rec.food.cooking:
(shnip)
>
> A simple corn and okra soup is very popular with country folk in the
> South, and you were very close to it. Do the corn and okra part just
> as you did, but add some onion into the mix. Skip all forms of stewed
> and/or seasoned tomatoes.

too late. The stewed tomatoes are in there.

> make the soup consistency. Chicken broth is good, as is vegetable
> broth. Season with salt and a fair amount of black pepper. Marjoram
> and savory are nice herbs, but go very lightly. When all is cooked,
> thicken very lightly with a slurry of cornstarch and water or broth.
> Serve with piping hot cornbread. Can't tell you how many bowls of
> this I've eaten at my grandmother's and mother's tables.

Sounds good. I don't think I'll thicken it, though.
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In article >, zxcvbob
> wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> > That was just to get your attention.
> > I bought okra at the market on Saturday morning (with Rona and her
> > mom).
> > It's nice. I sliced it and fried it some in some canola, then added
> > corn cut from two cobs. Added a can of stewed tomatoes with Italian
> > herbs, chopped. Cooked it. It got a way from me and all the liquid
> > cooked out of it. It didn't burn. (There is a God!)
> > Question: Can this be made into a tasty and delicious soup? With what
> > else? Did I mention that the tomato mess made it quite sweet tasting?
> > I didn't.
>
> Fry about 2 slice of bacon. Eat one of them and crumble the other back
> into the grease. Saute' the sliced okra and a little chopped onion in
> the bacon grease.

Dincha read the OP? What I've *got* is cooked okra, corn, and stewed
tomatoes.

Add a can of stewed tomatoes and cook until it's
> done.

History. It's already happened.

> Maybe a little basil, but don't overdo it -- and don't add garlic
> unless you just really like garlic.

Hokay.
>
> It's called "Okra and Tomatoes", and it's eaten as a light main dish or
> a hearty side dish. Some people like to add broken saltine crackers, or
> so I've read. I never liked it much when my mom cooked it when I was a
> kid, but I've developed a taste for it now that I've almost gotten old.
>
> Bob
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On Mon 15 Aug 2005 09:25:12p, Mr Libido Incognito wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Wayne Boatwright wrote on 15 Aug 2005 in rec.food.cooking
>
>> > A little chicken broth and some roasted red peppers...Cilantro
>> > would be flavour overkill...Parsely would be good. But you didn't
>> > mention any garlic or shallots...
>> >
>>
>> IMHO, garlic does not belong in this soup.
>>
>
> Soup just isn't soup without some garlic and/or a shallot or 3.
>

Have you ever eaten this Southern soup, Alan? It is *never* made with
garlic.

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On Mon 15 Aug 2005 09:26:15p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> In article >, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>> On Mon 15 Aug 2005 07:35:19p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>> > That was just to get your attention. I bought okra at the market on
>> > Saturday morning (with Rona and her mom). It's nice. I sliced it
>> > and fried it some in some canola, then added corn cut from two
>> > cobs. Added a can of stewed tomatoes with Italian herbs, chopped.
>> > Cooked it. It got a way from me and all the liquid cooked out of
>> > it. It didn't burn. (There is a God!) Question: Can this be made
>> > into a tasty and delicious soup? With what else? Did I mention
>> > that the tomato mess made it quite sweet tasting? I didn't. Gimme
>> > some ideas, m'friends. Beef or chicken broth? Anything hot? I
>> > don't much want to involve any meat or fish in it, and I don't
>> > particularly want to turn this into some big deal vegetable soup,
>> > either. I think I'm answering my own curiosity here. I'm thinking
>> > beef AND chicken broth and some hot sauce. Chopped parsley on top?
>> > Cilantro? (I've got both.)
>
>>
>> I reread your post, and I'd have to say skip the beef broth. Maybe a
>> dash of hot sauce. If you want the "real thing", I wouldn't use
>> cilantro.
>
> Real what?

This is a known soup in the South. The ingredients I listed are generally
the only ones used.

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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >, zxcvbob
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>
>>>That was just to get your attention.
>>>I bought okra at the market on Saturday morning (with Rona and her
>>>mom).
>>>It's nice. I sliced it and fried it some in some canola, then added
>>>corn cut from two cobs. Added a can of stewed tomatoes with Italian
>>>herbs, chopped. Cooked it. It got a way from me and all the liquid
>>>cooked out of it. It didn't burn. (There is a God!)
>>>Question: Can this be made into a tasty and delicious soup? With what
>>>else? Did I mention that the tomato mess made it quite sweet tasting?
>>>I didn't.
>>
>>Fry about 2 slice of bacon. Eat one of them and crumble the other back
>>into the grease. Saute' the sliced okra and a little chopped onion in
>>the bacon grease.
>
>
> Dincha read the OP?

Yes. And then I used it as an introduction to what *I* wanted to write
about ;-)

> What I've *got* is cooked okra, corn, and stewed tomatoes. [snip]

Best regards,
Bob

On Mon 15 Aug 2005 09:27:46p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> In article >, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>> On Mon 15 Aug 2005 07:35:19p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> (shnip)
>>
>> A simple corn and okra soup is very popular with country folk in the
>> South, and you were very close to it. Do the corn and okra part just
>> as you did, but add some onion into the mix. Skip all forms of stewed
>> and/or seasoned tomatoes.
>
> too late. The stewed tomatoes are in there.

Stewed tomatoes certainly aren't a bad thing. I've used them on occasion
in this soup, but it's not what's traditionally used. When you wrote of it
being sweet, I interpreted that you didn't like that.

>> make the soup consistency. Chicken broth is good, as is vegetable
>> broth. Season with salt and a fair amount of black pepper. Marjoram
>> and savory are nice herbs, but go very lightly. When all is cooked,
>> thicken very lightly with a slurry of cornstarch and water or broth.
>> Serve with piping hot cornbread. Can't tell you how many bowls of
>> this I've eaten at my grandmother's and mother's tables.
>
> Sounds good. I don't think I'll thicken it, though.



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In article >, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
(snppage)
> >> I reread your post, and I'd have to say skip the beef broth. Maybe a
> >> dash of hot sauce. If you want the "real thing", I wouldn't use
> >> cilantro.
> >
> > Real what?
>
> This is a known soup in the South. The ingredients I listed are
> generally the only ones used.


Cool. Looks like I'm 95% of the way there.
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In article >, zxcvbob
> wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> > In article >, zxcvbob
> > > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> >>
> >>>That was just to get your attention.
> >>>I bought okra at the market on Saturday morning (with Rona and her
> >>>mom).
> >>>It's nice. I sliced it and fried it some in some canola, then added
> >>>corn cut from two cobs. Added a can of stewed tomatoes with Italian
> >>>herbs, chopped. Cooked it. It got a way from me and all the liquid
> >>>cooked out of it. It didn't burn. (There is a God!)
> >>>Question: Can this be made into a tasty and delicious soup? With
> >>>what
> >>>else? Did I mention that the tomato mess made it quite sweet tasting?
> >>>
> >>>I didn't.
> >>
> >>Fry about 2 slice of bacon. Eat one of them and crumble the other back
> >>into the grease. Saute' the sliced okra and a little chopped onion in
> >>the bacon grease.
> >
> >
> > Dincha read the OP?
>
> Yes. And then I used it as an introduction to what *I* wanted to write
> about ;-)

Well, at least you're honest about it! <whap!>
>
> > What I've *got* is cooked okra, corn, and stewed tomatoes. [snip]
>
> Best regards,
> Bob
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On Mon 15 Aug 2005 09:49:10p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> In article >, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
> (snppage)
>> >> I reread your post, and I'd have to say skip the beef broth. Maybe a
>> >> dash of hot sauce. If you want the "real thing", I wouldn't use
>> >> cilantro.
>> >
>> > Real what?
>>
>> This is a known soup in the South. The ingredients I listed are
>> generally the only ones used.
>
>
> Cool. Looks like I'm 95% of the way there.

Sure does. When you've got it all done, let us know what all you ended up
with.

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Jill replied to Barb:

> > I bought okra at the market on Saturday morning (with Rona and her
> > mom). It's nice. I sliced it and fried it some in some canola, then
> > added corn cut from two cobs. Added a can of stewed tomatoes with
> > Italian herbs, chopped. Cooked it. It got a way from me and all the
> > liquid cooked out of it. It didn't burn. (There is a God!)
> > Question: Can this be made into a tasty and delicious soup? With
> > what else? Did I mention that the tomato mess made it quite sweet
> > tasting? I didn't.
> > Gimme some ideas, m'friends. Beef or chicken broth? Anything hot? I
> > don't much want to involve any meat or fish in it, and I don't
> > particularly want to turn this into some big deal vegetable soup,
> > either. I think I'm answering my own curiosity here. I'm thinking
> > beef AND chicken broth and some hot sauce. Chopped parsley on top?
> > Cilantro? (I've got both.)
>
> Gumbo. Always think Gumbo when you have okra Corn, sure! Tomatoes?
> Absolutely! Chicken and/or sausage... if you want. Okay, you can make a
> vegetable Gumbo. Beef or chicken broth, either one. Make a dark roux to
> thicken the soup. Onion, garlic. The holy trinity of peppers (white,
> black, cayenne) to taste. Hot sauce is sort of a given but I prefer to
> add it at the table. Fresh parsley or cilantro (I can't stand cilantro,
> but whatever) stirred in. Oregano. I don't suppose you can find file
> powder (ground sassafrass leaves) but if you do, add it at the very end
> when taken off the heat. You might want to add some barley to thicken
> this, pre file, too. Make a nice big pot


That's one good approach! Here are some others:

1. Boil ham and a hambone in water for a while, then add those veggies to
it. If you can get black-eyed peas, they'd go nicely, too.

2. Puree some cooked/canned butter beans or lima beans; thin the puree with
water. Add to the veggies and simmer for a while to blend the flavors. While
that's simmering, sautee some chopped onions, bell peppers (whatever color's
your favorite) and mustard seeds in butter over medium-high heat until the
mustard seeds start popping. Add that mess to the soup and serve.

3. Brown some pork chunks in a little oil. When they've taken on some brown
spots, sprinkle with flour and chili powder. Stir around until the flour
starts to turn tan, then pour in water (weak coffee would also be good)
while stirring madly to break up the lumps of flour. When all the lumps are
gone and the liquid comes to a boil, add the veggies into it.

4. Add cooked chicken, barbecue sauce, chicken stock, and a beer. Bring to
a boil and add a slurry of cornstarch and cold water to thicken the soup.
Garnish with cheese.


Bob

On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:35:19 -0500, Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> (with Rona and her mom).

Catch us up with Rona... and why hasn't she been posting lately?

In article >,
sfpipeline_at_gmail.com wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:35:19 -0500, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> > (with Rona and her mom).
>
> Catch us up with Rona... and why hasn't she been posting lately?

I don't know.
She's on holiday from her teaching job in Japan. Returns there next
week.
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:35:19 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>That was just to get your attention.
>I bought okra at the market on Saturday morning (with Rona and her mom).
>It's nice. I sliced it and fried it some in some canola, then added
>corn cut from two cobs. Added a can of stewed tomatoes with Italian
>herbs, chopped. Cooked it. It got a way from me and all the liquid
>cooked out of it. It didn't burn. (There is a God!)
>Question: Can this be made into a tasty and delicious soup? With what
>else? Did I mention that the tomato mess made it quite sweet tasting?
>I didn't.
>Gimme some ideas, m'friends. Beef or chicken broth? Anything hot? I
>don't much want to involve any meat or fish in it, and I don't
>particularly want to turn this into some big deal vegetable soup,
>either. I think I'm answering my own curiosity here. I'm thinking beef
>AND chicken broth and some hot sauce. Chopped parsley on top?
>Cilantro? (I've got both.)


I love okra and tomatoes. I would just thin it back out with the
chicken broth and top with chopped parsley. Serve it with some
cornbread and all is good in the world.

Tara

In article >, Tara
> wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:35:19 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> > wrote:
>
> >That was just to get your attention.
> >I bought okra at the market on Saturday morning (with Rona and her mom).
> >
> >It's nice. I sliced it and fried it some in some canola, then added
> >corn cut from two cobs. Added a can of stewed tomatoes with Italian
> >herbs, chopped. Cooked it. It got a way from me and all the liquid
> >cooked out of it. It didn't burn. (There is a God!)
> >Question: Can this be made into a tasty and delicious soup? With what
> >else? Did I mention that the tomato mess made it quite sweet tasting?
> >I didn't.
> >Gimme some ideas, m'friends. Beef or chicken broth? Anything hot? I
> >don't much want to involve any meat or fish in it, and I don't
> >particularly want to turn this into some big deal vegetable soup,
> >either. I think I'm answering my own curiosity here. I'm thinking beef
> >AND chicken broth and some hot sauce. Chopped parsley on top?
> >Cilantro? (I've got both.)
>
>
> I love okra and tomatoes. I would just thin it back out with the
> chicken broth and top with chopped parsley. Serve it with some
> cornbread and all is good in the world.
>
> Tara

That's where I'm leaning, Tara. Thanks.
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In article >, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

> On Mon 15 Aug 2005 09:27:46p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > In article >, Wayne Boatwright
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon 15 Aug 2005 07:35:19p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in
> >> rec.food.cooking:
> >> (shnip)
> >>
> >> A simple corn and okra soup is very popular with country folk in the
> >> South, and you were very close to it. Do the corn and okra part just
> >> as you did, but add some onion into the mix. Skip all forms of stewed
> >> and/or seasoned tomatoes.
> >
> > too late. The stewed tomatoes are in there.
>
> Stewed tomatoes certainly aren't a bad thing. I've used them on
> occasion in this soup, but it's not what's traditionally used. When
> you wrote of it being sweet, I interpreted that you didn't like that.
>


I love stewed tomatoes. These seem to be overly sweet, though.
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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>
>>On Mon 15 Aug 2005 09:27:46p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>
>>>In article >, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Mon 15 Aug 2005 07:35:19p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in
>>>>rec.food.cooking:
>>>>(shnip)
>>>>
>>>>A simple corn and okra soup is very popular with country folk in the
>>>>South, and you were very close to it. Do the corn and okra part just
>>>>as you did, but add some onion into the mix. Skip all forms of stewed
>>>>and/or seasoned tomatoes.
>>>
>>>too late. The stewed tomatoes are in there.
>>
>>Stewed tomatoes certainly aren't a bad thing. I've used them on
>>occasion in this soup, but it's not what's traditionally used. When
>>you wrote of it being sweet, I interpreted that you didn't like that.
>>
>
>
>
> I love stewed tomatoes. These seem to be overly sweet, though.


Don't forget that the corn is sweet too. Canned "whole peeled tomatoes"
(or something like that) and a little celery might have been better here
because the tomatoes wouldn't be sweet.

Bob

On Tue 16 Aug 2005 05:47:48p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> In article >, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>> On Mon 15 Aug 2005 09:27:46p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in
>> rec.food.cooking:
>>
>> > In article >, Wayne
>> > Boatwright > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon 15 Aug 2005 07:35:19p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in
>> >> rec.food.cooking: (shnip)
>> >>
>> >> A simple corn and okra soup is very popular with country folk in the
>> >> South, and you were very close to it. Do the corn and okra part
>> >> just as you did, but add some onion into the mix. Skip all forms of
>> >> stewed and/or seasoned tomatoes.
>> >
>> > too late. The stewed tomatoes are in there.
>>
>> Stewed tomatoes certainly aren't a bad thing. I've used them on
>> occasion in this soup, but it's not what's traditionally used. When
>> you wrote of it being sweet, I interpreted that you didn't like that.
>>
>
>
> I love stewed tomatoes. These seem to be overly sweet, though.

I love stewed tomatoes, too, Barb. As I said, I have used them in this
soup, but it's not the usual thing. I often add stewed tomatoes to my
chili, which is also not the usual thing. :-)


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In article >, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

> On Mon 15 Aug 2005 09:49:10p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > In article >, Wayne Boatwright
> > > wrote:
> > (snppage)
> >> >> I reread your post, and I'd have to say skip the beef broth. Maybe
> >> >> a
> >> >> dash of hot sauce. If you want the "real thing", I wouldn't use
> >> >> cilantro.
> >> >
> >> > Real what?
> >>
> >> This is a known soup in the South. The ingredients I listed are
> >> generally the only ones used.
> >
> >
> > Cool. Looks like I'm 95% of the way there.
>
> Sure does. When you've got it all done, let us know what all you ended
> up
> with.


I'e eaten almost a quart of it, I guess. Maybe more. I had some green
beans that needed cooking so they went in, diced. I had only one
package of frozen chicken broth and was going to extend with chicken
base. Don't have any. Used beef base in it, too. Enough hot sauce
that makes me feel like one perpetual hot flash. It's good. The corn
is crunchy.

Believe I'm now going to check out the activity at the nearby park. A
big event going on. I may join them.
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On Wed 17 Aug 2005 05:22:20p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> In article >, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>> On Mon 15 Aug 2005 09:49:10p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in
>> rec.food.cooking:
>>
>> > In article >, Wayne
>> > Boatwright > wrote: (snppage)
>> >> >> I reread your post, and I'd have to say skip the beef broth.
>> >> >> Maybe a dash of hot sauce. If you want the "real thing", I
>> >> >> wouldn't use cilantro.
>> >> >
>> >> > Real what?
>> >>
>> >> This is a known soup in the South. The ingredients I listed are
>> >> generally the only ones used.
>> >
>> >
>> > Cool. Looks like I'm 95% of the way there.
>>
>> Sure does. When you've got it all done, let us know what all you ended
>> up with.
>
>
> I'e eaten almost a quart of it, I guess. Maybe more. I had some green
> beans that needed cooking so they went in, diced. I had only one
> package of frozen chicken broth and was going to extend with chicken
> base. Don't have any. Used beef base in it, too. Enough hot sauce
> that makes me feel like one perpetual hot flash. It's good. The corn
> is crunchy.

It sounds good. You must have liked it if you ate a quart. :-) For
myself, I would probably have just used water and skipped the beans, but
then, that's how I grew up eating it. The "original" corn/okra/tomato
concoction is a much simpler (read minimal ingredients) soup. There's
always room to experiment.

> Believe I'm now going to check out the activity at the nearby park. A
> big event going on. I may join them.

So what did you do in the park?

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In article >, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

> On Wed 17 Aug 2005 05:22:20p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > Believe I'm now going to check out the activity at the nearby park. A
> > big event going on. I may join them.
>
> So what did you do in the park?

Just drove past on the way to the grocery store. Wanted to see how many
folks were holding candles. Quite a few.
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 23:07:53 -0500, Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> In article >, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
> > On Wed 17 Aug 2005 05:22:20p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > > Believe I'm now going to check out the activity at the nearby park. A
> > > big event going on. I may join them.
> >
> > So what did you do in the park?
>
> Just drove past on the way to the grocery store. Wanted to see how many
> folks were holding candles. Quite a few.

Shoot - this thread has taken an interesting turn, but I deleted it an
hour or so ago.... I just tried to google it, but there is still no
context for this thread there.

So, what's the park thing about? Joking, not joking....

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 17 Aug 2005 09:30:47p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>
>>On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 23:07:53 -0500, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>
>>
>>> In article >, Wayne
>>> Boatwright > wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Wed 17 Aug 2005 05:22:20p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in
>>> > rec.food.cooking:
>>> > > Believe I'm now going to check out the activity at the nearby
>>> > > park. A big event going on. I may join them.
>>> >
>>> > So what did you do in the park?
>>>
>>> Just drove past on the way to the grocery store. Wanted to see how
>>> many folks were holding candles. Quite a few.
>>
>>Shoot - this thread has taken an interesting turn, but I deleted it an
>>hour or so ago.... I just tried to google it, but there is still no
>>context for this thread there.
>>
>>So, what's the park thing about? Joking, not joking....
>>
>
>
> Candlelight Peace Vigil.
>


Oh. I thought it was a Peas Vigil. Nevermind.

Bob

On Wed 17 Aug 2005 09:30:47p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 23:07:53 -0500, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
>> In article >, Wayne
>> Boatwright > wrote:
>>
>> > On Wed 17 Aug 2005 05:22:20p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in
>> > rec.food.cooking:
>> > > Believe I'm now going to check out the activity at the nearby
>> > > park. A big event going on. I may join them.
>> >
>> > So what did you do in the park?
>>
>> Just drove past on the way to the grocery store. Wanted to see how
>> many folks were holding candles. Quite a few.
>
> Shoot - this thread has taken an interesting turn, but I deleted it an
> hour or so ago.... I just tried to google it, but there is still no
> context for this thread there.
>
> So, what's the park thing about? Joking, not joking....
>

Candlelight Peace Vigil.

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On Wed 17 Aug 2005 09:44:28p, zxcvbob wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Wed 17 Aug 2005 09:30:47p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 23:07:53 -0500, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> In article >, Wayne
>>>> Boatwright > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On Wed 17 Aug 2005 05:22:20p, Melba's Jammin' wrote in
>>>> > rec.food.cooking:
>>>> > > Believe I'm now going to check out the activity at the nearby
>>>> > > park. A big event going on. I may join them.
>>>> >
>>>> > So what did you do in the park?
>>>>
>>>> Just drove past on the way to the grocery store. Wanted to see how
>>>> many folks were holding candles. Quite a few.
>>>
>>>Shoot - this thread has taken an interesting turn, but I deleted it an
>>>hour or so ago.... I just tried to google it, but there is still no
>>>context for this thread there.
>>>
>>>So, what's the park thing about? Joking, not joking....
>>>
>>
>>
>> Candlelight Peace Vigil.
>>
>
>
> Oh. I thought it was a Peas Vigil. Nevermind.

No, that's porridge.


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On 18 Aug 2005 06:46:12 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Wed 17 Aug 2005 09:30:47p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 23:07:53 -0500, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> >
> >> Just drove past on the way to the grocery store. Wanted to see how
> >> many folks were holding candles. Quite a few.
> >
> > Shoot - this thread has taken an interesting turn, but I deleted it an
> > hour or so ago.... I just tried to google it, but there is still no
> > context for this thread there.
> >
> > So, what's the park thing about? Joking, not joking....
> >
>
> Candlelight Peace Vigil.

For what???? Okra?

On Wed 17 Aug 2005 10:00:59p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 18 Aug 2005 06:46:12 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Wed 17 Aug 2005 09:30:47p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>> > On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 23:07:53 -0500, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> >
>> >> Just drove past on the way to the grocery store. Wanted to see
>> >> how many folks were holding candles. Quite a few.
>> >
>> > Shoot - this thread has taken an interesting turn, but I deleted it
>> > an hour or so ago.... I just tried to google it, but there is still
>> > no context for this thread there.
>> >
>> > So, what's the park thing about? Joking, not joking....
>> >
>>
>> Candlelight Peace Vigil.
>
> For what???? Okra?
>

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/s...217436,00.html

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On 18 Aug 2005 07:14:13 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Wed 17 Aug 2005 10:00:59p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > On 18 Aug 2005 06:46:12 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> >>
> >> Candlelight Peace Vigil.
> >
> > For what???? Okra?
> >
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/s...217436,00.html

Thanks... Mom's a homegirl (her hometown is between me and Tammy M),
so I know about what she's doing - but I didn't know other places were
emulating it.

On Wed 17 Aug 2005 10:31:38p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 18 Aug 2005 07:14:13 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Wed 17 Aug 2005 10:00:59p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>> > On 18 Aug 2005 06:46:12 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Candlelight Peace Vigil.
>> >
>> > For what???? Okra?
>> >
>>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/s...217436,00.html
>
> Thanks... Mom's a homegirl (her hometown is between me and Tammy M),
> so I know about what she's doing - but I didn't know other places were
> emulating it.
>

From what I saw on television, there was also a huge group here in Phoenix
tonight.

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