BigOven(tm) for Windows is an easy new way for you to discover great
recipes, organize your collection, effortlessly share your best
recipes with friends, and cook more nutritious meals.**Just choose
your recipes from thousands available, drag and drop them onto a
shopping list, and get a printed grocery list in seconds.

Only BigOven for Windows gives you quick, integrated access to over
100,000 recipes via our searchable online recipe archive. But it
goes far beyond that. Get calorie, carbohydrate and fat counts for
any recipe. Import recipes from other websites. See ratings and
tasting notes from others around the world, and post your own. Add
your own photos. Go from tonight's menu to a printed, sorted grocery
shopping list in seconds. Put your recipes and your shopping list on
your Pocket PC (Palm OS version coming soon).

If you cook, and you've got a Windows® PC, you should give
award-winning BigOven a try. BigOven has earned 5/5 stars in its
first eight independent reviews.

FREE FOR THE FIRST FIFTY REC.FOOD.COOKING READERS
To celebrate the introduction of BigOven, we are giving the first
fifty (50) rec.food.cooking members who choose to download and install
BigOven a FREE registration, worth $24.95. Simply buy the product and
enter coupon code CPN7964393158 where it prompts you for the coupon.
(Note: This offer is limited to the first 50 people to download and
buy the product. Offer expires June 15th, 2004. It pays to view
rec.food.cooking over Memorial Day weekend! :-) )

Visit www.bigoven.com to download your free trial.

- Steve.

Founder, BigOven

This is a very nice program.

"Steve" > wrote in message
om...
> BigOven(tm) for Windows is an easy new way for you to discover great
> recipes, organize your collection, effortlessly share your best
> recipes with friends, and cook more nutritious meals. Just choose
> your recipes from thousands available, drag and drop them onto a
> shopping list, and get a printed grocery list in seconds.
>
> Only BigOven for Windows gives you quick, integrated access to over
> 100,000 recipes via our searchable online recipe archive. But it
> goes far beyond that. Get calorie, carbohydrate and fat counts for
> any recipe. Import recipes from other websites. See ratings and
> tasting notes from others around the world, and post your own. Add
> your own photos. Go from tonight's menu to a printed, sorted grocery
> shopping list in seconds. Put your recipes and your shopping list on
> your Pocket PC (Palm OS version coming soon).
>
> If you cook, and you've got a Windows® PC, you should give
> award-winning BigOven a try. BigOven has earned 5/5 stars in its
> first eight independent reviews.
>
> FREE FOR THE FIRST FIFTY REC.FOOD.COOKING READERS
> To celebrate the introduction of BigOven, we are giving the first
> fifty (50) rec.food.cooking members who choose to download and install
> BigOven a FREE registration, worth $24.95. Simply buy the product and
> enter coupon code CPN7964393158 where it prompts you for the coupon.
> (Note: This offer is limited to the first 50 people to download and
> buy the product. Offer expires June 15th, 2004. It pays to view
> rec.food.cooking over Memorial Day weekend! :-) )
>
> Visit www.bigoven.com to download your free trial.
>
> - Steve.
>
> Founder, BigOven

"Steve" > wrote in message
om...
> BigOven(tm) for Windows is an easy new way for you to discover great
> recipes, organize your collection, effortlessly share your best
> recipes with friends, and cook more nutritious meals.

Thanks Steve, I like it!! and ya just can't beat free

"Mikol" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Steve" > wrote in message
> om...
> > BigOven(tm) for Windows is an easy new way for you to discover great
> > recipes, organize your collection, effortlessly share your best
> > recipes with friends, and cook more nutritious meals.
>
> Thanks Steve, I like it!! and ya just can't beat free
>
Huh?
$24.95 USD.
Ken.

"Ken Davey" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Mikol" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Steve" > wrote in message
> > om...
> > > BigOven(tm) for Windows is an easy new way for you to discover great
> > > recipes, organize your collection, effortlessly share your best
> > > recipes with friends, and cook more nutritious meals.
> >
> > Thanks Steve, I like it!! and ya just can't beat free
> >
> Huh?
> $24.95 USD.
> Ken.

FREE FOR THE FIRST FIFTY REC.FOOD.COOKING READERS
To celebrate the introduction of BigOven, we are giving the first
fifty (50) rec.food.cooking members who choose to download and install
BigOven a FREE registration, worth $24.95. Simply buy the product and
enter coupon code CPN7964393158 where it prompts you for the coupon.
(Note: This offer is limited to the first 50 people to download and
buy the product. Offer expires June 15th, 2004. It pays to view
rec.food.cooking over Memorial Day weekend! :-) )

Visit www.bigoven.com to download your free trial.

It was free for me.

On Mon, 31 May 2004 15:54:48 -0400, "Mikol" >
wrote:

>
>"Ken Davey" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "Mikol" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Steve" > wrote in message
>> > om...
>> > > BigOven(tm) for Windows is an easy new way for you to discover great
>> > > recipes, organize your collection, effortlessly share your best
>> > > recipes with friends, and cook more nutritious meals.
>> >
>> > Thanks Steve, I like it!! and ya just can't beat free
>> >
>> Huh?
>> $24.95 USD.
>> Ken.
>
> FREE FOR THE FIRST FIFTY REC.FOOD.COOKING READERS
>To celebrate the introduction of BigOven, we are giving the first
>fifty (50) rec.food.cooking members who choose to download and install
>BigOven a FREE registration, worth $24.95. Simply buy the product and
>enter coupon code CPN7964393158 where it prompts you for the coupon.
>(Note: This offer is limited to the first 50 people to download and
>buy the product. Offer expires June 15th, 2004. It pays to view
>rec.food.cooking over Memorial Day weekend! :-) )
>
>Visit www.bigoven.com to download your free trial.
>
>It was free for me.
>
I also got it for free, and I returned to thier web site to get some
of the recipes, looks real nice.

Thanks for all the comments on BigOven.

We've been lurking here on rec.food.cooking for a very long time, and
listening carefully to what many of you have been saying you're looking for
in recipe software. Simply put, we are trying to make it easier for cooks
around the world to discover, rate, and share their favorite recipes with
others, get nutritional content like carbohydrate and calorie counts, build
a simple shopping list from multiple recipes, and plan out the weekly meals.
We want to do this simply, and without intrusive pop-up ads. We have a
Pocket PC companion out now and a Palm OS companion coming soon.

At this writing, there are approximately 10 free registration coupons still
remaining for rec.food.cooking readers.

After these free registration coupons are used up, which should be some time
in the next few hours, we do have a competitive upgrade offer running
through June 30th. If you've already purchased -other- recipe software, and
can prove purchase via an email to us ) with the name of
your application and your registration code OR a .jpg scan of your original
CD-ROM, we'll send you a discount coupon worth 33% off our full registration
price. Getting your recipes into BigOven is easy -- it can directly read
Cook'n, MealMaster (MMF), MasterCook, and text copied to the clipboard.

Happy Memorial Day ! Happy cooking.

BigOven
cooking made easier
www.bigoven.com


"James O. Jones" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 31 May 2004 15:54:48 -0400, "Mikol" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Ken Davey" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >> "Mikol" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >
> >> > "Steve" > wrote in message
> >> > om...
> >> > > BigOven(tm) for Windows is an easy new way for you to discover
great
> >> > > recipes, organize your collection, effortlessly share your best
> >> > > recipes with friends, and cook more nutritious meals.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks Steve, I like it!! and ya just can't beat free
> >> >
> >> Huh?
> >> $24.95 USD.
> >> Ken.
> >
> > FREE FOR THE FIRST FIFTY REC.FOOD.COOKING READERS
> >To celebrate the introduction of BigOven, we are giving the first
> >fifty (50) rec.food.cooking members who choose to download and install
> >BigOven a FREE registration, worth $24.95. Simply buy the product and
> >enter coupon code CPN7964393158 where it prompts you for the coupon.
> >(Note: This offer is limited to the first 50 people to download and
> >buy the product. Offer expires June 15th, 2004. It pays to view
> >rec.food.cooking over Memorial Day weekend! :-) )
> >
> >Visit www.bigoven.com to download your free trial.
> >
> >It was free for me.
> >
> I also got it for free, and I returned to thier web site to get some
> of the recipes, looks real nice.

On 29 May 2004 17:28:27 -0700, (Steve) wrote:

>BigOven(tm) for Windows is an easy new way for you to discover great
>recipes, organize your collection, effortlessly share your best
>recipes with friends, and cook more nutritious meals.**Just choose
>your recipes from thousands available, drag and drop them onto a
>shopping list, and get a printed grocery list in seconds.

Great potential. Have just downloaded it and am putting in a few
recipes.

However: Stability (OK, on a 98se machine, 128Mb) is an issue. It has
already crashed 3 times. Make that 5- checking out nutrition for the
following paragraph, it crashed when clicking on the scales link.

6 times. Clicking on ingredient notes. Yes, I have the latest MDAC.
Well, 2.7. Is that the latest?

Linking to USDA food descriptions is a bit of a pain. Guessing what
their abbreviations are is hard work. And the units available are
limiting. For example, I have a recipe calling for "1 large onion".
Although I can easily enter that in the recipe, the USDA link asks me
to guess how many cups it is. Or another example, how many links or
patties is 500g sausages? Or having to go out to convert 2T brown
sugar to cups?

I like to use t for teaspoon and T for tablespoon. It's probably
asking for trouble, but it would be good if quantities were case
sensitive.

Another point: I imported a BGO file from the website, but it still
needed massaging to fit the program. Surely, a native import would
perform flawlessly?

Hmmm.... importing from clipboard doesn't appear to work at all.

But in general, looks good. Can't beat the price, so thanks Steve for
your generous offer to the ng. I'll add further thoughts here later.

Cheers
Jon

On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 16:01:13 +1200, Jonski
> wrote:

>But in general, looks good. Can't beat the price, so thanks Steve for
>your generous offer to the ng. I'll add further thoughts here later.

PS: Can't wait to export a shopping list to my Palm!

Cheers
Jon

"Jonski" > wrote in message
...
> On 29 May 2004 17:28:27 -0700, (Steve) wrote:
>
> >BigOven(tm) for Windows is an easy new way for you to discover great
> >recipes, organize your collection, effortlessly share your best
> >recipes with friends, and cook more nutritious meals. Just choose
> >your recipes from thousands available, drag and drop them onto a
> >shopping list, and get a printed grocery list in seconds.
>
> Great potential. Have just downloaded it and am putting in a few
> recipes.
>
<snipped some problems I cannot comment on>

> Hmmm.... importing from clipboard doesn't appear to work at all.

I also downloaded the program and was able to import from clipboard.

Do be sure to visit the forums they have very good tech support there. Post
what it is that is the problem and they will answer you within a few hours.
Also there is an update, due, in-part, to a "bug" that I found (pat on the
back LOL) that will allow you to properly import files In the MealMaster
format.

Roberta

Jon and Roberta:

Thanks for your comments. We are happy to address these issues; see
our support forum for details.

We'll be happy to investigate further if you send us your recipe box
and any specific steps to reproduce the problems.

As you might imagine, with over 6,000 USDA ingredients, it is quite
difficult to translate how they might be in USDA format into any and
all possible recipe. (We host over 150,000 on BigOven.com). In about
half the cases, the software will automatically recognize unit
conversions (e.g., it knows how to go from tablespoons to cups,
teaspoons to tablespoons, etc.). But you're quite right -- it does
not know how to translate between "1 cup, chopped" and "1 large
onion", and so there is some work to link up ingredients the first
time.

We are unaware of any issues in importing from the clipboard but we're
happy to investigate via our support forums.

Take care and happy cooking!




Jonski > wrote in message >. ..
> On 29 May 2004 17:28:27 -0700, (Steve) wrote:
>
> >BigOven(tm) for Windows is an easy new way for you to discover great
> >recipes, organize your collection, effortlessly share your best
> >recipes with friends, and cook more nutritious meals.**Just choose
> >your recipes from thousands available, drag and drop them onto a
> >shopping list, and get a printed grocery list in seconds.
>
> Great potential. Have just downloaded it and am putting in a few
> recipes.
>
> However: Stability (OK, on a 98se machine, 128Mb) is an issue. It has
> already crashed 3 times. Make that 5- checking out nutrition for the
> following paragraph, it crashed when clicking on the scales link.
>
> 6 times. Clicking on ingredient notes. Yes, I have the latest MDAC.
> Well, 2.7. Is that the latest?
>
> Linking to USDA food descriptions is a bit of a pain. Guessing what
> their abbreviations are is hard work. And the units available are
> limiting. For example, I have a recipe calling for "1 large onion".
> Although I can easily enter that in the recipe, the USDA link asks me
> to guess how many cups it is. Or another example, how many links or
> patties is 500g sausages? Or having to go out to convert 2T brown
> sugar to cups?
>
> I like to use t for teaspoon and T for tablespoon. It's probably
> asking for trouble, but it would be good if quantities were case
> sensitive.
>
> Another point: I imported a BGO file from the website, but it still
> needed massaging to fit the program. Surely, a native import would
> perform flawlessly?
>
> Hmmm.... importing from clipboard doesn't appear to work at all.
>
> But in general, looks good. Can't beat the price, so thanks Steve for
> your generous offer to the ng. I'll add further thoughts here later.
>
> Cheers
> Jon

On 1 Jun 2004 15:08:59 -0700, (Steve) wrote:

>Jon and Roberta:
>
>Thanks for your comments. We are happy to address these issues; see
>our support forum for details.
>
>We'll be happy to investigate further if you send us your recipe box
>and any specific steps to reproduce the problems.

Thanks. I'll do that as soon as I get a chance!

Cheers
Jon

Jonski > wrote in message >. ..

Just a followup -- we have posted a new build (v1.3.5) in which we
found, replicated, and fixed the Win98SE behavior that Jon noted.

Jon, thank you very much for helping us locate these issues on the
Win98SE platform. We were indeed able to fully replicate what you
experienced, and we've posted a new build that fixes these issues. To
get the upgrade, either visit http://www.bigoven.com and download it,
or launch BigOven for Windows and choose "Check online for updates"
from the file menu.

(This maintenance release to BigOven recipe software, like all other
upgrades since version 1.0, is completely free to all 1.x customers.)

"Steve" > wrote in message
om...
> Jonski > wrote in message
>. ..
>
> Just a followup -- we have posted a new build (v1.3.5) in which we
> found, replicated, and fixed the Win98SE behavior that Jon noted.
>
> Jon, thank you very much for helping us locate these issues on the
> Win98SE platform. We were indeed able to fully replicate what you
> experienced, and we've posted a new build that fixes these issues. To
> get the upgrade, either visit http://www.bigoven.com and download it,
> or launch BigOven for Windows and choose "Check online for updates"
> from the file menu.
>
> (This maintenance release to BigOven recipe software, like all other
> upgrades since version 1.0, is completely free to all 1.x customers.)

But can it cook SPAM

On 9 Jun 2004 00:03:16 -0700, (Steve) wrote:

>Just a followup -- we have posted a new build (v1.3.5) in which we
>found, replicated, and fixed the Win98SE behavior that Jon noted.
>
>Jon, thank you very much for helping us locate these issues on the
>Win98SE platform.

*blush* Pleased to be of service... but I still haven't got around to
your support forums. Will d/l the latest and follow up there.

Cheers
Jon

OK, OK , Big Oven sounds like just what I need in a recipe database
but there must be someone out there besides a "shill" for Big Oven.
could I possibly hear from one of them?
Sorry Steve, but I like a 2nd opinion before surgery on my wallet!


Steve wrote:
> BigOven(tm) for Windows is an easy new way for you to discover great
> recipes, organize your collection, effortlessly share your best
> recipes with friends, and cook more nutritious meals. Just choose
> your recipes from thousands available, drag and drop them onto a
> shopping list, and get a printed grocery list in seconds.
>
> Only BigOven for Windows gives you quick, integrated access to over
> 100,000 recipes via our searchable online recipe archive. But it
> goes far beyond that. Get calorie, carbohydrate and fat counts for
> any recipe. Import recipes from other websites. See ratings and
> tasting notes from others around the world, and post your own. Add
> your own photos. Go from tonight's menu to a printed, sorted grocery
> shopping list in seconds. Put your recipes and your shopping list on
> your Pocket PC (Palm OS version coming soon).
>
> If you cook, and you've got a Windows® PC, you should give
> award-winning BigOven a try. BigOven has earned 5/5 stars in its
> first eight independent reviews.
>
> FREE FOR THE FIRST FIFTY REC.FOOD.COOKING READERS
> To celebrate the introduction of BigOven, we are giving the first
> fifty (50) rec.food.cooking members who choose to download and install
> BigOven a FREE registration, worth $24.95. Simply buy the product and
> enter coupon code CPN7964393158 where it prompts you for the coupon.
> (Note: This offer is limited to the first 50 people to download and
> buy the product. Offer expires June 15th, 2004. It pays to view
> rec.food.cooking over Memorial Day weekend! :-) )
>
> Visit www.bigoven.com to download your free trial.
>
> - Steve.
>
> Founder, BigOven

Top post here for lack of time...

I'm not a shill and I've already tried a couple of the recipes provided. I
found them to be delicious(sp) and have had no complaints from the other
eaters.

Also, the search feature will give you way more than you wanted so
scalability is definitely there.

Bret

"Chef Bear" > wrote in message
...
> OK, OK , Big Oven sounds like just what I need in a recipe database
> but there must be someone out there besides a "shill" for Big Oven.
> could I possibly hear from one of them?
> Sorry Steve, but I like a 2nd opinion before surgery on my wallet!
>
>
> Steve wrote:
> > BigOven(tm) for Windows is an easy new way for you to discover great
> > recipes, organize your collection, effortlessly share your best
> > recipes with friends, and cook more nutritious meals. Just choose
> > your recipes from thousands available, drag and drop them onto a
> > shopping list, and get a printed grocery list in seconds.
> >
> > Only BigOven for Windows gives you quick, integrated access to over
> > 100,000 recipes via our searchable online recipe archive. But it
> > goes far beyond that. Get calorie, carbohydrate and fat counts for
> > any recipe. Import recipes from other websites. See ratings and
> > tasting notes from others around the world, and post your own. Add
> > your own photos. Go from tonight's menu to a printed, sorted grocery
> > shopping list in seconds. Put your recipes and your shopping list on
> > your Pocket PC (Palm OS version coming soon).
> >
> > If you cook, and you've got a Windows® PC, you should give
> > award-winning BigOven a try. BigOven has earned 5/5 stars in its
> > first eight independent reviews.
> >
> > FREE FOR THE FIRST FIFTY REC.FOOD.COOKING READERS
> > To celebrate the introduction of BigOven, we are giving the first
> > fifty (50) rec.food.cooking members who choose to download and install
> > BigOven a FREE registration, worth $24.95. Simply buy the product and
> > enter coupon code CPN7964393158 where it prompts you for the coupon.
> > (Note: This offer is limited to the first 50 people to download and
> > buy the product. Offer expires June 15th, 2004. It pays to view
> > rec.food.cooking over Memorial Day weekend! :-) )
> >
> > Visit www.bigoven.com to download your free trial.
> >
> > - Steve.
> >
> > Founder, BigOven




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